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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #300 on: March 30, 2024, 08:47:37 PM »
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Just set up those Ace hollow bolts for the first time, hope mine don't snap too lol.
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i have been riding them since they came out, have 4 different sets ups going with them, no issues.

Nice. Yeah been bashing slappies no issues yet. I like the way they look, always been a phillips enjoyer but the larger heads with the allen hole is a nice change. Can't see the hollow aspect unless you look real close but still a trip, has hollow skate hardware ever existed til now? They might be the first there.

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #301 on: March 31, 2024, 06:31:35 AM »
+1 to bender bolts. Been skating these on my current setup and there are zero signs of them turning silver. Head size is very similar to shorty's lights, but are much easier to make flush against the griptape. They also sent like 20 stickers for my one order of bolts

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #302 on: March 31, 2024, 11:32:40 PM »
Do you know similar bolts to bender that can be found in Europe ? The won’t ship sadly.

The always black + small head and easier to make flush sound like perfection

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #303 on: April 01, 2024, 03:48:19 AM »
Philips
better grip
one colored on the front

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #304 on: April 05, 2024, 10:47:22 AM »
Anyone know of hardware that has the microgripper thing, but is phillips? I had a set a while ago and really enjoyed that feature when setting up new boards. Bolts would always be flush.

Right now on Indy 1" phillips and I really like the crosshatch on the head of the bolt. Any other brands that do something similar?

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #305 on: April 05, 2024, 10:53:33 AM »
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Just set up those Ace hollow bolts for the first time, hope mine don't snap too lol.
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i have been riding them since they came out, have 4 different sets ups going with them, no issues.
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Nice. Yeah been bashing slappies no issues yet. I like the way they look, always been a phillips enjoyer but the larger heads with the allen hole is a nice change. Can't see the hollow aspect unless you look real close but still a trip, has hollow skate hardware ever existed til now? They might be the first there.

Mine have not snapped, but when setting up a new deck I noticed that with several bolts the threads sheared off making them unusable.

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #306 on: April 05, 2024, 08:24:13 PM »
Set up new deck, so new bolts and it’s the longneck from Girl.

They work. They’re bolts. The nylon lock is really strong. Let’s see if the black scrapes off as quick as Thunder hardware.
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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #307 on: April 10, 2024, 12:07:52 AM »
Anyone know of hardware that has the microgripper thing, but is phillips? I had a set a while ago and really enjoyed that feature when setting up new boards. Bolts would always be flush.

Right now on Indy 1" phillips and I really like the crosshatch on the head of the bolt. Any other brands that do something similar?

Yeah I like it too. Was even better when they produced "Crossbolts" - The heads would wear away to show the dreaded Iron Cross. I stocked up on a few sets haha

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #308 on: April 10, 2024, 01:21:11 AM »
Do people use new bolts when setting up a new deck?
My Magenta bolts are on their second year now.

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #309 on: April 10, 2024, 02:00:02 AM »
Do people use new bolts when setting up a new deck?
My Magenta bolts are on their second year now.

Nah, the bolts go with the trucks. They last for ages.

BTW Bronze bolts for lyphe. Solid as. And gotta have that bronze indicator bolt.

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #310 on: April 10, 2024, 06:38:05 PM »
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Do people use new bolts when setting up a new deck?
My Magenta bolts are on their second year now.
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Nah, the bolts go with the trucks. They last for ages.

BTW Bronze bolts for lyphe. Solid as. And gotta have that bronze indicator bolt.


I might have way too many new sets ready to go, but more often than not I use the same bolts, just use new nuts if the old nuts are getting a bit worn in the nyloc, eg if you can put the nuts on all the way with your fingers (no tools) it is time to swap in new nuts, so from that I don't need new bolts much at all.

Fresh grip with new bolts looks nice though.


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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #311 on: April 10, 2024, 06:44:12 PM »
Allen/hex key and Philips are such garbage screw heads.

Someone should make a Robertson bolt company and name it Sideshow Roberts or something more clever and less stupid.

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #312 on: April 13, 2024, 03:49:25 PM »
Allen/hex key and Philips are such garbage screw heads.

Someone should make a Robertson bolt company and name it Sideshow Roberts or something more clever and less stupid.

I believe skull skates sells Robertson hardware.

http://www.skullskates.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/1_73/products_id/1575/osCsid/bf82ea814d68a1e09b965d9831b2379a

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #313 on: April 14, 2024, 08:17:08 AM »
Regripped my board, grip over bolts, running ace hollow bolts with fresh nuts and I have never been more confident my hardware is not coming loose for eternity lol.

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #314 on: April 14, 2024, 11:41:28 AM »
Regripped my board, grip over bolts, running ace hollow bolts with fresh nuts and I have never been more confident my hardware is not coming loose for eternity lol.

Respect.

Grip over bolts is always insane to me, but if you're going to do it, might as well fully commit.

I heard HKD or FKD or someone else used to do gripper bolts, too.

If I ever find a set of 7/8 Randoms I would totally buy em for the curiosity. Never had em back then.

My current go to is the Girl Longneck 7/8 Allen, and I put low profile nuts on after the first setup.

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #315 on: April 14, 2024, 03:34:22 PM »
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Regripped my board, grip over bolts, running ace hollow bolts with fresh nuts and I have never been more confident my hardware is not coming loose for eternity lol.
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Respect.

Grip over bolts is always insane to me, but if you're going to do it, might as well fully commit.

I heard HKD or FKD or someone else used to do gripper bolts, too.

If I ever find a set of 7/8 Randoms I would totally buy em for the curiosity. Never had em back then.

My current go to is the Girl Longneck 7/8 Allen, and I put low profile nuts on after the first setup.


Too bad shipping costs too much, cause I have a box of Randoms that it seems no one wants, lots of different types, sizes / top heads too, but the grip ones with the little knobs I think are more just for the look than anything else.

Also the 7/8" bolts always were a pain to get into the board far enough to start to get your bolts on, at least for those dudes that had them at the skateparks setting up their boards without a hammer anyway.  The longer ones, you could just put through, start to do them up and they would pull right in easily enough.

Fun looking at them now though, as I used to have them on all my boards back in the day, but just run plain simple bolts like Shortys or similar without any issues.



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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #316 on: June 20, 2024, 10:04:37 AM »
Has anyone seen low-profile colored nuts for sale?

I've got a few sets of silver ones still, but gold or purple would be fun.

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #317 on: June 20, 2024, 10:24:55 AM »
Has anyone seen low-profile colored nuts for sale?

I've got a few sets of silver ones still, but gold or purple would be fun.

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #318 on: June 20, 2024, 10:33:43 AM »
Anyone ride the ace hollow bolts? Back in the day when they started putting holes in the trucks and the element featherlight. Had me thinking about what else we can drill to make lighter. Before they were created I was thinking about hollow hardware. And then someone did it. I always felt like they would bend super easy. I've broken boards and bent the hardware. I can't imagine myself buying em'. The cost compared to weight savings is ridiculous. And then they add the notches on the underside of the bolt to grip the board. Seems like the notch weight would just make it the regular weight of a standard bolt. Anyone do any research on this??
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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #319 on: June 20, 2024, 12:48:08 PM »
I have had a set of the Ace Hollow bolts, one bolt would not tighten down all the way. The grip part did over time ensure that the bolts sunk into the carbon topsheet of a Powell Flight Deck so they eventually sat flush. After several decks some of the threads on the bolts broke off completely. They didn't bend nor did I weigh them, but I did cross pollinate them with Shorty's Light for the half nuts.

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #320 on: June 20, 2024, 01:02:08 PM »
Anyone ride the ace hollow bolts? Back in the day when they started putting holes in the trucks and the element featherlight. Had me thinking about what else we can drill to make lighter. Before they were created I was thinking about hollow hardware. And then someone did it. I always felt like they would bend super easy. I've broken boards and bent the hardware. I can't imagine myself buying em'. The cost compared to weight savings is ridiculous. And then they add the notches on the underside of the bolt to grip the board. Seems like the notch weight would just make it the regular weight of a standard bolt. Anyone do any research on this??

I posted this a few pages back, and you are correct, there is actually no weight savings in the bolts themselves. I do not have any data on bending.
My wife just bought a kitchen scale so I decided to do a little test between the Ace Hollow hardware and the Shorty's Lights that I normally use. All sets are 7/8 allen.

The bolts themselves weigh the exact same, so the only weight savings comes with the thinner nuts that Shorty's uses. Could pair the Ace bolts with the Shorty's nuts to at least get the benefit of potentially not needing to use an allen key and Ace's claim that their bolts don't cause griptape swirls (that's never been a problem for me anyway as long as you only tighten from the nut side)

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #321 on: June 20, 2024, 05:30:59 PM »
shorty's is shedding weight by having smaller heads and nuts.


Ace Hollow bolts are going to be lighter when compared to normal sized bolts, pair them with the shorty's nuts and they weigh the same as those shorty's lights.


shorty's smaller heads and little nuts are not for everyone. some people like big heads and balls, wait.  :o
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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #322 on: June 20, 2024, 11:40:32 PM »
Fucking gimmicks. I've been telling people for ages don't buy into that stuff. To shave a couple quarters off your truck for $20-$30 more. Get bent! But i'm down for the forged Bplates. If it's stronger while using less material, i'm all for it. I guarantee if you blind test a pair of indys vs some hollow indys. No one could figure out the difference.
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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #323 on: June 21, 2024, 12:13:16 AM »
Fucking gimmicks. I've been telling people for ages don't buy into that stuff. To shave a couple quarters off your truck for $20-$30 more. Get bent! But i'm down for the forged Bplates. If it's stronger while using less material, i'm all for it. I guarantee if you blind test a pair of indys vs some hollow indys. No one could figure out the difference.
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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #324 on: June 21, 2024, 01:28:56 AM »
Is there a reason no company has just made a bolt that's between 7/8th and 1inch?

7/8 are too short and come loose... problem solved

1 inch is too long... Problem solved


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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #325 on: September 03, 2025, 06:36:28 PM »
Quick question but do Shortys 1" allen stay black or relatively black? Last bolts I got were Diamond and they look like silver ass now

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #326 on: September 03, 2025, 07:31:32 PM »
Quick question but do Shortys 1" allen stay black or relatively black? Last bolts I got were Diamond and they look like silver ass now

Mostly depends on if they sink in below the grip or if you leave em stickin out

I always use small-head(Shorty's or anything that looks exactly like Shorty's) 7/8" bolts, and I just poke a hole with my Allen wrench in the grip, use the Allen wrench to hold the bolt and I only tighten from the nut side, with normal/regular ass nuts, until the bolt thread *just* clears the nylon

Never had an issue with diamond, modus, Indy, ace, Shorty's, etc bolts not staying black.

I remember a pro interview where the guy scratched up his bolts on purpose cause he said it made it look more like the griptape hah

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #327 on: September 04, 2025, 03:38:36 PM »
7/8 Allen bolts from bolt depot. Standard size hex nuts and "low profile" hex jam nuts on hand, depending on forged or cast plates.

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #328 on: September 05, 2025, 02:43:12 PM »
Never really cared as long as they were the right length and work. Last bolts I remember buying over 10 years ago were Mini-Logo and Shorty's. Sill have those and even older, unknown hardware and use them on setups depending on how my parts rotation is going.

The latest set I bought were Pig 7/8" Allen Holos. I like the look but one of the nuts got lost during a session.

I also came across some Indy bolts and never realized they had such large heads on them. I kinda like the idea since they are very flat and I would imagine they put less stress on the board by distributing the pressure more. What's the hate on large heads about?

The next set I was thinking about buying are the Ace Hollows. Glad to see the weight comparison above and definitely curious how they compare against other standard bolts that are not also stripped down for weight savings. The main feature I like and want to try from them is the grippers though and I think what was mentioned about the hollow making up for the added weight of the grips evens it all out makes some sense.

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Re: The Bolts Thread
« Reply #329 on: September 05, 2025, 04:05:33 PM »
Snagged some 7/8 stainless steel allen bolts from the maintenance shop at work. They connect the trucks to the deck.