questions that don't deserve their own thread

[WashingtonNECKTIE]

Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.

If it fits the trucks I wanna run, +/- any less than .25in is fine wit me

[rawbertson.]

Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.

I find I care less about the width than the WB and as long as its fatter than the trucks ( cant stand hot rods)
Like Primitive has a really good deal for the mystery boxes, and I really like their 8.38" size because it has a short wb at 14-1/8", while the 8.5" from them runs a 14.5" wb which i am not a huge fan of. i can hardly tell the difference in width, but the difference in wb feels very noticeable to me. so yeah since I could find a deal, I just found something that worked well for me out of what was available on sale good luck!

[manysnakes]

Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.

Not really. When you start getting to the fractional measurements, everything is pretty squishy. I can move between 8 and 8.25" without any issues whatsoever.

[Lou Strux]

Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.

To echo what some of the others above have said, I've got a BBS/Deluxe 8.38 & an 8.5 right next to each other, and I'll be damned if I can feel a significant diff between them. One's got about .12 more wheel base, the other's got about .12 more width. Only noticeable variation my shoe-clad feet can detect is the very slight difference in the concave/kicks, as one is a II in the stack & the other is a IV. Even that feels pretty subtle to me, though.
I spent many a "therapy" hour cleansing myself of product madness and have come to believe that we all have our own ideal dims for how we typically ride, but most of us will still perform well within a half inch tolerance either way.

[LebowskisRug]

Expand Quote

Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.

[close]

To echo what some of the others above have said, I've got a BBS/Deluxe 8.38 & an 8.5 right next to each other, and I'll be damned if I can feel a significant diff between them. One's got about .12 more wheel base, the other's got about .12 more width. Only noticeable variation my shoe-clad feet can detect is the very slight difference in the concave/kicks, as one is a II in the stack & the other is a IV. Even that feels pretty subtle to me, though.
I spent many a "therapy" hour cleansing myself of product madness and have come to believe that we all have our own ideal dims for how we typically ride, but most of us will still perform well within a half inch tolerance either way.

Those decks are noticeably different to me. The DLX deck is not only narrower, but has significantly more tapered kicks, a longer nose, and shorter tail. It skates smaller than it measures, flicks super fast thanks to the taper, and usually comes with mellower kicks.

The BBS version is more squared, with a slightly shorter nose, and longer tail. It definitely feels like a bigger board to me but not in a bad way, just different.

So, the dimensions do matter but I don't think about it in terms of difference in width, but how the overall dimensions make the board feel. It's mostly in hindsight of "hmm, maybe this thing kinda made it feel that way, which was cool", but I'm not sitting there blaming my lack of abilities on the dimensions.

[iw0]

Does anyone happen to remember those Titan Ti-Lites with the little screw in the center of the axle? Think it would be worth the effort to replicate it? I don't have access to a drill press, just a drill, so it makes me apprehensive to ruin a bunch of bits trying to drill through a titanium axle. Has anyone done this before?

wasn't familiar with them so i had to look up those titan ti-lites and yeah it certainly seems like a way to fix axle slip as long as it goes all the way through like theirs seems to, otherwise i feel like someone might end up with a lurpiv kingpin situation. only thing i'm noticing about those vs venture is that it doesn't look like the axle is exposed at all on the backside/kingpin side? i'm only looking at one ebay listing so the photos might not be the best example though

[Lou Strux]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.

[close]

To echo what some of the others above have said, I've got a BBS/Deluxe 8.38 & an 8.5 right next to each other, and I'll be damned if I can feel a significant diff between them. One's got about .12 more wheel base, the other's got about .12 more width. Only noticeable variation my shoe-clad feet can detect is the very slight difference in the concave/kicks, as one is a II in the stack & the other is a IV. Even that feels pretty subtle to me, though.
I spent many a "therapy" hour cleansing myself of product madness and have come to believe that we all have our own ideal dims for how we typically ride, but most of us will still perform well within a half inch tolerance either way.

[close]

Those decks are noticeably different to me. The DLX deck is not only narrower, but has significantly more tapered kicks, a longer nose, and shorter tail. It skates smaller than it measures, flicks super fast thanks to the taper, and usually comes with mellower kicks.

The BBS version is more squared, with a slightly shorter nose, and longer tail. It definitely feels like a bigger board to me but not in a bad way, just different.

So, the dimensions do matter but I don't think about it in terms of difference in width, but how the overall dimensions make the board feel. It's mostly in hindsight of "hmm, maybe this thing kinda made it feel that way, which was cool", but I'm not sitting there blaming my lack of abilities on the dimensions.

My bad for the unintentional miscommunication, Ol' Ruggy.
What I meant to convey is that BOTH of the boards were DLX brands (1 krooked, 1 real) as made by BBS, as opposed to some sort of made in China "complete" scenario from either brand.
An apples to apples camparo, as it were.

[Mbrimson88]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Do you guys really care about your board being a couple mm off?
Like skating 8.5 Instead of your usual 8.38. or an 8.125 instead of an 8.25.
Found this board on sale cheaper than my usual. The shape/size is a tad bit off.
Would you go for the board with the good deal and say fuck it? Or spend $20 more for ol trusty.

[close]

To echo what some of the others above have said, I've got a BBS/Deluxe 8.38 & an 8.5 right next to each other, and I'll be damned if I can feel a significant diff between them. One's got about .12 more wheel base, the other's got about .12 more width. Only noticeable variation my shoe-clad feet can detect is the very slight difference in the concave/kicks, as one is a II in the stack & the other is a IV. Even that feels pretty subtle to me, though.
I spent many a "therapy" hour cleansing myself of product madness and have come to believe that we all have our own ideal dims for how we typically ride, but most of us will still perform well within a half inch tolerance either way.

[close]

Those decks are noticeably different to me. The DLX deck is not only narrower, but has significantly more tapered kicks, a longer nose, and shorter tail. It skates smaller than it measures, flicks super fast thanks to the taper, and usually comes with mellower kicks.

The BBS version is more squared, with a slightly shorter nose, and longer tail. It definitely feels like a bigger board to me but not in a bad way, just different.

So, the dimensions do matter but I don't think about it in terms of difference in width, but how the overall dimensions make the board feel. It's mostly in hindsight of "hmm, maybe this thing kinda made it feel that way, which was cool", but I'm not sitting there blaming my lack of abilities on the dimensions.

[close]

My bad for the unintentional miscommunication, Ol' Ruggy.
What I meant to convey is that BOTH of the boards were DLX brands (1 krooked, 1 real) as made by BBS, as opposed to some sort of made in China "complete" scenario from either brand.
An apples to apples camparo, as it were.

To me, woodshop and concave come first above everything else, so a different woodshop with concave that I am not used to is going to be a definite NO from me.

Anything from BBS and especially anything DLX is going to be a whole lot closer to each other, but then skating a board with a 14.5 wb on the 8.38 compared to skating a board with a 14.25 wb on the 8.5 board, I can really feel the difference.

Others are often not quite so picky with anything, but trying a slightly different board can be a lot of fun too, just to see, so who knows - maybe you will like it a lot, maybe you will like it less, but then at least you know what you do want or what you don't want for future deck purchases.

[LebowskisRug]

Why can I not buy a Drehobl popsicle?

[Painted Baby]

Why can I not buy a Drehobl popsicle?

I have no idea if this is the answer but maybe because of Dan's Rig? That shape was ghost along with all the other DLX shapes early in the pandemic but when production ramped back up, they put out two different graphics maybe a season or two apart. All of a sudden there was a glut of them and they seemed to have sat. If that shape has been sitting on the shelves for over a year, maybe that's skewed demand for Drehobl product? No shade on that shape either, it's pretty great.

[DarkPools]

To whoever asked about noticing the difference in mm on deck sizes.  Yes and no, for me.

I've been on a steady diet of BBS 8.5s for years now (Polar, Black Label, Heroin, Primitive, Antihero, Real, Krooked, etc.) and strayed to 8.38 and 8.6 a couple times here and there. I notice it because I'm so adjusted to 8.5 shapes that the slight mm in width or WB feels different thsn what I'm already used to.

8.25 legitimately feels cramped to me after riding 20+ 8.5 decks over the years. 8.0 and below would feel like a fucking tech deck under my feet.

That said, 8.25 is the absolute smallest I could go and still adjust somewhat comfortably for all the skating I do. I skate transition, flat ground, manual, ledge, some drops/gaps, etc. and something smaller (even 0.25 of an inch) than my current setup would feel off in any of these areas. At least until I adjust if it's not too much of an impediment to my existing muscle memory

[Creachteach]

What are the differences between Powell Flight Decks and Santa Cruz VX Decks? Any advantages to Flight Decks over VX?

I know some heavier send skaters who ONLY skate like 9"+ VX Decks because they are unable to break them. they retail for about $120 here in Canada.

Powell Flight Decks are more like $150-160 CAD for a team popsicle (more for an Andy Anderson shape...) and I don't really see any major advantage here because a VX deck already seems pretty indestructible + light. 

I could see there being differences in the way that the boards age and the way the nose / tail wears down, how steep it stays, maintains pop, spring etc. but seems to me like not worth the extra $30-40.

Where do you find giant VX decks?
The widest ones I’ve seen are the Creature Gardner and Santa Cruz Winkowski popsicle. They’re wide enough, but lacking in WB, kicks and length.

[Mbrimson88]

Expand Quote

Why can I not buy a Drehobl popsicle?

[close]

I have no idea if this is the answer but maybe because of Dan's Rig? That shape was ghost along with all the other DLX shapes early in the pandemic but when production ramped back up, they put out two different graphics maybe a season or two apart. All of a sudden there was a glut of them and they seemed to have sat. If that shape has been sitting on the shelves for over a year, maybe that's skewed demand for Drehobl product? No shade on that shape either, it's pretty great.

I was thinking that there hasn't been a Drehobl board in over a year anyway, mainly because there are a lot of other rad new up and comers on the team and the older dudes often just fade away, or get an easy retirement, so to speak.  DLX look after their guys and don't just kick them off, but they don't get their name on a board anymore if they are not really doing much, or their presence is not really relevant anymore, eg Drehobl sort of fades away but Cardiel still sells out every board they do.

I have a few popsicle Drehobl boards from a while ago, still stoked on him and his skating, but I think due to injuries and other things, he hasn't skated much in quite a while and is doing more woodworking than anything else - food display / cutting boards and the like.


The last Drehobl board in a popsicle shape was the short 8.5 from the Spring 2020 drop, named "Gibson".

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2020/


Then as said a couple of his shaped board in 2022, like the Spring drop "Cresant" board being the last one maybe?

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2022/

[manysnakes]

Why can I not buy a Drehobl popsicle?

I love the dude, but let's be realistic about the type of skater who is actively seeking out a Drehobl deck in late 2023.

[LebowskisRug]

A 37 year old Dad that only skates curbs, ledges, and manual pads of course!

[rocklobster]

What is the use case for smaller softer wheels?

Darkroom did 50 and 52mm 90a and 52mm 95a, which doesn't fit the needs of technical skating, cruising or ATV. 52mm 95a kinda makes sense but anything smaller doesn't since tiny wheels are terrible at maintaining speed.

Powell Dragons are their own thing since their formula is good enough to justify 52mm 93a in a skinny wheel profile.

[breezy_again]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Why can I not buy a Drehobl popsicle?

[close]

I have no idea if this is the answer but maybe because of Dan's Rig? That shape was ghost along with all the other DLX shapes early in the pandemic but when production ramped back up, they put out two different graphics maybe a season or two apart. All of a sudden there was a glut of them and they seemed to have sat. If that shape has been sitting on the shelves for over a year, maybe that's skewed demand for Drehobl product? No shade on that shape either, it's pretty great.

[close]

I was thinking that there hasn't been a Drehobl board in over a year anyway, mainly because there are a lot of other rad new up and comers on the team and the older dudes often just fade away, or get an easy retirement, so to speak.  DLX look after their guys and don't just kick them off, but they don't get their name on a board anymore if they are not really doing much, or their presence is not really relevant anymore, eg Drehobl sort of fades away but Cardiel still sells out every board they do.

I have a few popsicle Drehobl boards from a while ago, still stoked on him and his skating, but I think due to injuries and other things, he hasn't skated much in quite a while and is doing more woodworking than anything else - food display / cutting boards and the like.


The last Drehobl board in a popsicle shape was the short 8.5 from the Spring 2020 drop, named "Gibson".

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2020/


Then as said a couple of his shaped board in 2022, like the Spring drop "Cresant" board being the last one maybe?

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2022/

there's this one named two face

[lamfordie]

For those that skated the 808, how did you guys break in the shoe. I have been walking in them for about a week and they still feel stiff?

[Fartknocker415]

For those that skated the 808, how did you guys break in the shoe. I have been walking in them for about a week and they still feel stiff?

You no break in 808, 808 break you.

They won't stop feeling stiff

[Mbrimson88]

What is the use case for smaller softer wheels?

Darkroom did 50 and 52mm 90a and 52mm 95a, which doesn't fit the needs of technical skating, cruising or ATV. 52mm 95a kinda makes sense but anything smaller doesn't since tiny wheels are terrible at maintaining speed.

Powell Dragons are their own thing since their formula is good enough to justify 52mm 93a in a skinny wheel profile.

I know some people put them on a cruiser type setup like a Zip Zinger for just lazy rolls, not really needing to get anywhere fast, but not having normal harder wheels and they didn't want big cruiser wheels on there either.

Some of the tech type boards also benefit from softer wheels on crusty ground where people don't want to slide, eg just skating flat in a carpark or road, where bigger wheels don't allow for flat ground flip type tricks as well.


Overall I tend to agree, softer and smaller wheels are not such a good combination, but I have quite a few of them on setups for beginners / kids, as well as the completes that come with those softer wheels, which help them learn and don't slip out on much at all, so they are a little safer in slippery indoor parks and ramps, as well as give them a bit less drama as they tend not to stop on anything like harder wheels do, eg sticks, rocks, or anything else.

[moonordie]

Expand Quote

For those that skated the 808, how did you guys break in the shoe. I have been walking in them for about a week and they still feel stiff?

[close]

You no break in 808, 808 break you.

They won't stop feeling stiff
?

Pretty much this 👆
I'd say a solid month of everyday use and you'll feel a little breaking in

[manysnakes]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

For those that skated the 808, how did you guys break in the shoe. I have been walking in them for about a week and they still feel stiff?

[close]

You no break in 808, 808 break you.

They won't stop feeling stiff
?

[close]

Pretty much this 👆
I'd say a solid month of everyday use and you'll feel a little breaking in

I felt the same way about the 1010. I initially thought that I hated them, but after wearing them for a month or so as "chillers", they turned into one of the best shoes I ever skated.

[moonordie]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

For those that skated the 808, how did you guys break in the shoe. I have been walking in them for about a week and they still feel stiff?

[close]

You no break in 808, 808 break you.

They won't stop feeling stiff
?

[close]

Pretty much this 👆
I'd say a solid month of everyday use and you'll feel a little breaking in

[close]

I felt the same way about the 1010. I initially thought that I hated them, but after wearing them for a month or so as "chillers", they turned into one of the best shoes I ever skated.

After skating 808 for almost a year I feel 1010 like Authentics. Love both shoes, can't wait to try 480 and my curiosity is only getting bigger regarding 600

[pops]

Anyone tried the "new" Dane 1 yet? I think they extended the wheelbase slightly and made the board a hair shorter. Curious because I love the og Dane 1 and will definitely another one but not sure if it feels the same anymore. 

[Painted Baby]

Anyone tried the "new" Dane 1 yet? I think they extended the wheelbase slightly and made the board a hair shorter. Curious because I love the og Dane 1 and will definitely another one but not sure if it feels the same anymore. 

The Oski Dane1 from this season is probably 14.38. I haven't seen it in person and I see it listed as the old wb mostly with a few places showing the 14.38. I'm guessing those are the places that measure every time or knew about the change and checked the newest drop. I bought a couple of them from last season recently and that's probably it for me for the Dane. There are plenty of other shaped decks with that kinda wheelbase with better noses out there.

[Mbrimson88]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Why can I not buy a Drehobl popsicle?

[close]

I have no idea if this is the answer but maybe because of Dan's Rig? That shape was ghost along with all the other DLX shapes early in the pandemic but when production ramped back up, they put out two different graphics maybe a season or two apart. All of a sudden there was a glut of them and they seemed to have sat. If that shape has been sitting on the shelves for over a year, maybe that's skewed demand for Drehobl product? No shade on that shape either, it's pretty great.

[close]

I was thinking that there hasn't been a Drehobl board in over a year anyway, mainly because there are a lot of other rad new up and comers on the team and the older dudes often just fade away, or get an easy retirement, so to speak.  DLX look after their guys and don't just kick them off, but they don't get their name on a board anymore if they are not really doing much, or their presence is not really relevant anymore, eg Drehobl sort of fades away but Cardiel still sells out every board they do.

I have a few popsicle Drehobl boards from a while ago, still stoked on him and his skating, but I think due to injuries and other things, he hasn't skated much in quite a while and is doing more woodworking than anything else - food display / cutting boards and the like.


The last Drehobl board in a popsicle shape was the short 8.5 from the Spring 2020 drop, named "Gibson".

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2020/


Then as said a couple of his shaped board in 2022, like the Spring drop "Cresant" board being the last one maybe?

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2022/

[close]

there's this one named two face

Nice!

I didn't look too hard, but what drop was this one in?

Still looks fairly current, in stock in quite a few places, but I just don't see a mention of it in the catalogs that I did bring up.

[Painted Baby]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Why can I not buy a Drehobl popsicle?

[close]

I have no idea if this is the answer but maybe because of Dan's Rig? That shape was ghost along with all the other DLX shapes early in the pandemic but when production ramped back up, they put out two different graphics maybe a season or two apart. All of a sudden there was a glut of them and they seemed to have sat. If that shape has been sitting on the shelves for over a year, maybe that's skewed demand for Drehobl product? No shade on that shape either, it's pretty great.

[close]

I was thinking that there hasn't been a Drehobl board in over a year anyway, mainly because there are a lot of other rad new up and comers on the team and the older dudes often just fade away, or get an easy retirement, so to speak.  DLX look after their guys and don't just kick them off, but they don't get their name on a board anymore if they are not really doing much, or their presence is not really relevant anymore, eg Drehobl sort of fades away but Cardiel still sells out every board they do.

I have a few popsicle Drehobl boards from a while ago, still stoked on him and his skating, but I think due to injuries and other things, he hasn't skated much in quite a while and is doing more woodworking than anything else - food display / cutting boards and the like.


The last Drehobl board in a popsicle shape was the short 8.5 from the Spring 2020 drop, named "Gibson".

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2020/


Then as said a couple of his shaped board in 2022, like the Spring drop "Cresant" board being the last one maybe?

https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2022/

[close]

there's this one named two face

[close]

Nice!

I didn't look too hard, but what drop was this one in?

Still looks fairly current, in stock in quite a few places, but I just don't see a mention of it in the catalogs that I did bring up.

It's from Fall 22 drop 2 just FYI

[Mbrimson88]

It's from Fall 22 drop 2 just FYI

https://krookedskateboarding.com/fall-2022/


That's maybe the only one that didn't come up before, but of course there it is.

Thanks!!

[notinternetfamous]

why are fs disasters scary as hell/harder to do once learning bs disasters? anyone experience this? lol
my transition skills are limited btw but i had fs disasters for a while now. recently unlocked bs disasters and loving them, but can't for the life of me do a single fs one in a sesh

#post666 #hellride

[LebowskisRug]

why are fs disasters scary as hell/harder to do once learning bs disasters? anyone experience this? lol
my transition skills are limited btw but i had fs disasters for a while now. recently unlocked bs disasters and loving them, but can't for the life of me do a single fs one in a sesh

#post666 #hellride

Opposite for me, FS are my go-to safety trick. The key is hang a bit more toe off for the front 180 and twist once you leave the coping.