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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4980 on: May 12, 2024, 11:51:26 AM »
Not all boards had super deep concave DMs at the time but I recall Elements in 1996-97 starting to be super fucking deep. I remember having a Reese Forbes Element that was basically vert ramp shaped. I thought it would make me kickflip better. Came off of Girl decks, which were flat. I do remember Aliens having steeper kicks and not super deep concave and skated those for a while because I learned switch heels on one. Then back to Girl/Choc and Tum Yeto were always fairly flat.

we always said element and AWS decks were the ones you wanted for the most pop and/or flipped the best due to the concave and kicks
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4981 on: May 12, 2024, 12:22:13 PM »
Was going through storage and pulled out some shoes from glory days past…

I know pals like to save their decks but does anyone else keep their favorite shoes that have been fully skated in.  I had some ipath cats thats were just used for work, washed them and they still look good to wear and skate.  Dont know if I should keep them in storage or display them

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4982 on: May 12, 2024, 01:14:43 PM »
Are 8.25 decks way lighter than 8.5 ? I’ve tried a couple of 8.25 and I’ve been very surprised about the light sensation / almost toy vs my 8.5

Or are girl decks heavy in general ?

From what I see on tactics, thunder hollow light have 3g difference between 8.25 and 8.5 so it can’t come from that ?

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4983 on: May 12, 2024, 01:25:22 PM »
Are 8.25 decks way lighter than 8.5 ? I’ve tried a couple of 8.25 and I’ve been very surprised about the light sensation / almost toy vs my 8.5

Or are girl decks heavy in general ?

From what I see on tactics, thunder hollow light have 3g difference between 8.25 and 8.5 so it can’t come from that ?
Assuming that the .25 is taken off the middle of a 32" board, you would have 8 less square inches of 7 ply wood. I'm guessing that would be the reason, also assuming that all other aspects remain constant(i.e. factory so same wood and glue, same shape)

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4984 on: May 12, 2024, 02:01:07 PM »
pros that left thunder, venture or ace?

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4985 on: May 12, 2024, 02:36:14 PM »
Was going through storage and pulled out some shoes from glory days past…

I know pals like to save their decks but does anyone else keep their favorite shoes that have been fully skated in.  I had some ipath cats thats were just used for work, washed them and they still look good to wear and skate.  Dont know if I should keep them in storage or display them

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4986 on: May 12, 2024, 07:13:13 PM »
Anyone have plans for a small-ish fun box they could share?





Something like this? Materials readily available at your hardware store, all you need is an electric screwdriver / drill to countersunk your screws into into the angle iron.


If you want something more permanent go with a cinderblock ledge, more effort and material but it would last way longer and probably slide better too. I'd still try to screw in the angle iron into the concrete, the angle iron will eventually bend and liquid nails won't hold it anymore.
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4987 on: May 15, 2024, 09:48:13 AM »
If you're going to build anything go to a steel supply store that has various angle iron. Get one with a rounded edge. It's not any more expensive and it will grind/slide better. Most American box stores only sell sharp angle that is overpriced.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4988 on: May 15, 2024, 09:50:49 AM »
So I want to preface this question with the note that I am not trying to criticize the following people, but I just don't really get it.

Are people with severe bushing madness REALLY inhibited by not having these wacky combos of obscure setups? I totally get wanting replacement soft/hard bushings depending on basic weight and turning preferences. I'm not sure I've ever had deck or truck madness, but those make a lot of sense to me. Bushing madness doesn't. I can't imagine a scenario where I was like "Yah I woulda landed this if I had a Riptide 94 lower rear with an Ace low hard top and my front with a Thunder conical shaved down 2mm lower and an Indy aftermarket black top with Krux pivot cups.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4989 on: May 15, 2024, 07:38:46 PM »
So I want to preface this question with the note that I am not trying to criticize the following people, but I just don't really get it.

Are people with severe bushing madness REALLY inhibited by not having these wacky combos of obscure setups? I totally get wanting replacement soft/hard bushings depending on basic weight and turning preferences. I'm not sure I've ever had deck or truck madness, but those make a lot of sense to me. Bushing madness doesn't. I can't imagine a scenario where I was like "Yah I woulda landed this if I had a Riptide 94 lower rear with an Ace low hard top and my front with a Thunder conical shaved down 2mm lower and an Indy aftermarket black top with Krux pivot cups.


I think a lot of it stems from the frustration of not being able to get their trucks to what they want easily with just basic single brand parts, so the evolution of trying this and that and then keeping with whatever they currently have with the products available at the time.

That very specific modification of their gear, compared to buying a set of trucks, skating them as is giving the bushings time to break in nicely, or just as some people I know say, "New trucks suck, so the first few sessions suck, then they get used to however they feel" or something similar, from a guy who rips harder than anyone else I know, so I take that as an example only, but I also see a few things I think he could have fixed to make his board skate better, as much as he doesn't want to hear it.

For others, maybe the changing to inverted kingpins or other mods, then leads to increasing bushing mod or change ups, so one other person I know, no bottom washers, cut down bushings, trimmed to whatever height according to whatever bushings he can get his hands on, the softer the better, truck down to axle, kingpin down so low he has to cut bushings otherwise they just don't fit, etc.  It works for him, so I guess just replacing hangers when he needs is easier than trying to get used to a brand new set of trucks.

I have boxes of the old Indy low head bushings, which work nicely, started on new trucks, kingpin nuts fairly flush, then tighten down as bushings break in, so then I have the kingpin nuts a few threads down, which I then angle grind off to never have clearance issues and the bushings last the life of the truck, so that is my simple enough fix, even though some people have said that is a lot of work to get things going.


Guessing that is not quite what you are asking about, but when people do tinker a lot with a few things, more so than having a whole skate shop of bushings to try, I think they are more likely to be trying this and that, just to get their own board working just how they like it, more than finding the exact right bushings from twenty to fifty plus options on the market, which is both costly and unnecessary for the most part.


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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4990 on: May 16, 2024, 09:14:02 AM »
Was going through storage and pulled out some shoes from glory days past…

I know pals like to save their decks but does anyone else keep their favorite shoes that have been fully skated in.  I had some ipath cats thats were just used for work, washed them and they still look good to wear and skate.  Dont know if I should keep them in storage or display them

Yeah I've kept a few of my old skated shoes that Im sentimental to for whatever reason, still have my first ever pair of skated shoes too! I've kept almost every board I've skated with plans to do something with them all one day.. but for now they're just taking up a bunch of storage space at my parent's place lol

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4991 on: May 16, 2024, 11:05:56 AM »
Are the Ace low top and Slappy top bushings similar height?

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4992 on: May 16, 2024, 04:12:47 PM »
Are the Ace low top and Slappy top bushings similar height?


@Xen would be able to answer that one.


I looked and although it is noted the Ace low top is 10 mm, Indy is 10.5 mm and Bones tops are 10 to 10.5 mm, people have said they are a bit shorter than Indy so I am guessing that is about right.  Bottom bushing is 13 mm.


From the Slappy Trucks thread:


Since the top bushings were immediately shredded, I Put some Indy 90a standard cylinder bushings in these bad boys after the first session. Now they are my favorite truck by far! As if Indy and Ace had a beautiful bastard son.

I use Indy bushings as well.

Just put some Indy bushings in mine as well. Do they change the geometry at all or are they roughly the same size as the stock slappy bushings?

Bottom bushings have the same height, so geometry is the same. Top bushing is higher so maybe less kingpin clearance. Sinclair confirmed it via IG message.
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4993 on: May 16, 2024, 06:13:49 PM »
Are the Ace low top and Slappy top bushings similar height?

Pretty much, the slappys might be a 1mm or so shorter.

You WILL shred the stock bushings using the provided top washer - why they ship like that is beyond me since it's a known issue/all over their socials (to where sinclair said they were going to change the washer....but didn't).

The bushings are really nice tho if they stay in one piece. REALLY nice in Ventures.


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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4994 on: May 16, 2024, 09:07:26 PM »
Thanks to both @Mbrimson88 and @Xen. I recently got the standards and really like these after a short testride. They work really well with my Huffer. Front truck top bushing got slightly shredded right away so I changed the top washers to the ones that come with Aces. I was thinking if these stock bushings get totally destroyed I might swap to Ace lows top and see how it goes.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4995 on: May 16, 2024, 10:52:45 PM »
Anyone use a fitness tracker while skating? I use a Garmin Instinct 2 for day-to-day and runs, Instinct while skating but the HR monitoring is very inaccurate. Thinking of using a smaller Vivosmart 5 while skating.
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4996 on: May 17, 2024, 02:44:29 AM »
Is there any sense to Slappy? They seemed the same thing, specially look wise, than AF1 just .9mm lower I believe.
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forgive me if i somehow missed it, but could someone help me with just how flat the flat as fuck decks really are?
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4997 on: May 17, 2024, 04:49:04 AM »
pros that left thunder, venture or ace?

joslin, went from venture to indy
i guess jerry switched from thunder to royal way back when, he talked about getting on thunder early on through mic-e but i know for sure he was on royal when i started skating


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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4998 on: May 17, 2024, 09:09:35 AM »
Is there any sense to Slappy? They seemed the same thing, specially look wise, than AF1 just .9mm lower I believe.

Well it would it would be more wheel clearance than af1 by 1mm, I don’t believe they are as pushed in, so the geometry is more similar to Indy. And they have more grind clearance. I was thinking same thing “what’s the point “ up until recently. I actually really want to try them now cause I got back on Indy’s and I don’t like the squeak and I want something slightly more stable so I think it is actually hitting a pretty good sweet spot. Someone here mentioned that they are the best truck for not wheel biting.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4999 on: May 17, 2024, 10:03:25 AM »
Anyone use a fitness tracker while skating? I use a Garmin Instinct 2 for day-to-day and runs, Instinct while skating but the HR monitoring is very inaccurate. Thinking of using a smaller Vivosmart 5 while skating.

I use my apple watch for all my workouts. I usually forgot to turn tracking on when I first start skating, usually lose 30min or so.





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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #5000 on: May 17, 2024, 10:10:13 AM »
Is there any sense to Slappy? They seemed the same thing, specially look wise, than AF1 just .9mm lower I believe.

If you like the Indy/Ace/Theeve/ML style of turn, Slappy give you:

Pros
Best grind clearance out.
Best grind. period. fight me.
Faster turn than Indy.
Not squirrelly like ACE.
Quick return and stable on center.
Forged plates are the same height as cast
Less wheelbite than anything I've skated

Cons
Shitty top washer.
Heavy just like a comparable indy or ace
Height isn't for everyone.
Forged plates are the same height as cast

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #5001 on: May 17, 2024, 09:15:53 PM »
Is there any sense to Slappy? They seemed the same thing, specially look wise, than AF1 just .9mm lower I believe.

I havent skated mine much yet, just a quick test ride on my front yard. They felt pretty surfy (between ace/indy), stable, lighter than what Ive been riding lately (af1, stage 4). Im going skating today and try to grind these as much as possible to get the feel of how they grind. Oh yeah, the top bushing was cut right away because the washer's edge is really sharp and eats into that bushing like a knife. That sucks. I swapped both top washers and no issues so far.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #5002 on: May 18, 2024, 06:42:49 AM »
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Is there any sense to Slappy? They seemed the same thing, specially look wise, than AF1 just .9mm lower I believe.
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If you like the Indy/Ace/Theeve/ML style of turn, Slappy give you:

Pros
Best grind clearance out.
Best grind. period. fight me.
Faster turn than Indy.
Not squirrelly like ACE.
Quick return and stable on center.
Forged plates are the same height as cast
Less wheelbite than anything I've skated

Cons
Shitty top washer.
Heavy just like a comparable indy or ace
Height isn't for everyone.
Forged plates are the same height as cast
Every time I see you have good things to say about a truck I want to go out and buy a pair to try. But then I remember I'm weird and actually like forged Thunders and it's likely not a good idea.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #5003 on: May 18, 2024, 07:22:59 AM »
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Anyone use a fitness tracker while skating? I use a Garmin Instinct 2 for day-to-day and runs, Instinct while skating but the HR monitoring is very inaccurate. Thinking of using a smaller Vivosmart 5 while skating.
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I use my apple watch for all my workouts. I usually forgot to turn tracking on when I first start skating, usually lose 30min or so.




Same. First started to record the workouts when I was losing weight, now I don’t care much anymore, but still turn it on to make sure I don’t go over my max heart rate. (220-age=178) :(

What I wish they would add (and I’ve asked Apple before) is to add a distance tracking to the skate workout.
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #5004 on: May 18, 2024, 09:54:18 AM »
Is Vans going to keep making the vulc Rowans?

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #5005 on: May 18, 2024, 12:07:10 PM »
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Is there any sense to Slappy? They seemed the same thing, specially look wise, than AF1 just .9mm lower I believe.
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I havent skated mine much yet, just a quick test ride on my front yard. They felt pretty surfy (between ace/indy), stable, lighter than what Ive been riding lately (af1, stage 4). Im going skating today and try to grind these as much as possible to get the feel of how they grind. Oh yeah, the top bushing was cut right away because the washer's edge is really sharp and eats into that bushing like a knife. That sucks. I swapped both top washers and no issues so far.

Reach out to them on insta (DM them); they'll hook you up with new bushings...personally, I'm just using blue 92 indy's now they seem to feel the best at the cost of a wee bit of grind clearance.


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Is there any sense to Slappy? They seemed the same thing, specially look wise, than AF1 just .9mm lower I believe.
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If you like the Indy/Ace/Theeve/ML style of turn, Slappy give you:

Pros
Best grind clearance out.
Best grind. period. fight me.
Faster turn than Indy.
Not squirrelly like ACE.
Quick return and stable on center.
Forged plates are the same height as cast
Less wheelbite than anything I've skated

Cons
Shitty top washer.
Heavy just like a comparable indy or ace
Height isn't for everyone.
Forged plates are the same height as cast
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Every time I see you have good things to say about a truck I want to go out and buy a pair to try. But then I remember I'm weird and actually like forged Thunders and it's likely not a good idea.

By this forum's standards don't trust me: if I want the ACE/Indy feel I prefer slappys, for the venture/thunder feel I prefer royals....skating just about anything not DLX and you're kook'd.
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #5006 on: May 18, 2024, 12:11:23 PM »
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Anyone use a fitness tracker while skating? I use a Garmin Instinct 2 for day-to-day and runs, Instinct while skating but the HR monitoring is very inaccurate. Thinking of using a smaller Vivosmart 5 while skating.
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I use my apple watch for all my workouts. I usually forgot to turn tracking on when I first start skating, usually lose 30min or so.




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Same. First started to record the workouts when I was losing weight, now I don’t care much anymore, but still turn it on to make sure I don’t go over my max heart rate. (220-age=178) :(

What I wish they would add (and I’ve asked Apple before) is to add a distance tracking to the skate workout.

Yeah, distance would be rad...doesn't for just about all the other common 'traveling' type workouts (nothing for rowing either).

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #5007 on: May 18, 2024, 12:14:48 PM »
Is Vans going to keep making the vulc Rowans?

My guess is no. Haven't seen a new colorway drop in a long while and the Rowan's are on sale at vans, and searching 'Rowan' only brings up the Rowan 2....even searching for Rowan Shoe (which is the tag for V1 only brings up the Rowan 2; you can only find the V1 by rummaging in the sale section).

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« Reply #5008 on: May 18, 2024, 11:54:55 PM »
What non Indy trucks were pros riding in the late 90s-early/mid 00s when they rode bigger boards?
 I'm guessing it's pretty common knowledge that in the whole shop wall was 7.5/7.75 years that many pros actually rode much bigger boards but if that pro was on ventures on thunders how were they getting trucks to match? Old stock, getting specially made shit just for them?

Or same question the other way when some pros were riding like 7.25-7.4 what's the point of the axle was sticking way out

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #5009 on: May 19, 2024, 12:33:59 AM »
What non Indy trucks were pros riding in the late 90s-early/mid 00s when they rode bigger boards?
 I'm guessing it's pretty common knowledge that in the whole shop wall was 7.5/7.75 years that many pros actually rode much bigger boards but if that pro was on ventures on thunders how were they getting trucks to match? Old stock, getting specially made shit just for them?

Or same question the other way when some pros were riding like 7.25-7.4 what's the point of the axle was sticking way out
Maybe Fury's, they had a stacked team with people who strike me as wide board guys (Hawk, Burnquist, Rowley, Saari, etc.)
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