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[AlirezaFirouzja]

Is Vans going to keep making the vulc Rowans?

[Xen]

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Is there any sense to Slappy? They seemed the same thing, specially look wise, than AF1 just .9mm lower I believe.

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I havent skated mine much yet, just a quick test ride on my front yard. They felt pretty surfy (between ace/indy), stable, lighter than what Ive been riding lately (af1, stage 4). Im going skating today and try to grind these as much as possible to get the feel of how they grind. Oh yeah, the top bushing was cut right away because the washer's edge is really sharp and eats into that bushing like a knife. That sucks. I swapped both top washers and no issues so far.

Reach out to them on insta (DM them); they'll hook you up with new bushings...personally, I'm just using blue 92 indy's now they seem to feel the best at the cost of a wee bit of grind clearance.

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Is there any sense to Slappy? They seemed the same thing, specially look wise, than AF1 just .9mm lower I believe.

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If you like the Indy/Ace/Theeve/ML style of turn, Slappy give you:

Pros
Best grind clearance out.
Best grind. period. fight me.
Faster turn than Indy.
Not squirrelly like ACE.
Quick return and stable on center.
Forged plates are the same height as cast
Less wheelbite than anything I've skated

Cons
Shitty top washer.
Heavy just like a comparable indy or ace
Height isn't for everyone.
Forged plates are the same height as cast

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Every time I see you have good things to say about a truck I want to go out and buy a pair to try. But then I remember I'm weird and actually like forged Thunders and it's likely not a good idea.

By this forum's standards don't trust me: if I want the ACE/Indy feel I prefer slappys, for the venture/thunder feel I prefer royals....skating just about anything not DLX and you're kook'd.

[Xen]

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Anyone use a fitness tracker while skating? I use a Garmin Instinct 2 for day-to-day and runs, Instinct while skating but the HR monitoring is very inaccurate. Thinking of using a smaller Vivosmart 5 while skating.

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I use my apple watch for all my workouts. I usually forgot to turn tracking on when I first start skating, usually lose 30min or so.

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Same. First started to record the workouts when I was losing weight, now I don’t care much anymore, but still turn it on to make sure I don’t go over my max heart rate. (220-age=178)

What I wish they would add (and I’ve asked Apple before) is to add a distance tracking to the skate workout.

Yeah, distance would be rad...doesn't for just about all the other common 'traveling' type workouts (nothing for rowing either).

[Xen]

Is Vans going to keep making the vulc Rowans?

My guess is no. Haven't seen a new colorway drop in a long while and the Rowan's are on sale at vans, and searching 'Rowan' only brings up the Rowan 2....even searching for Rowan Shoe (which is the tag for V1 only brings up the Rowan 2; you can only find the V1 by rummaging in the sale section).

[Mean salto]

What non Indy trucks were pros riding in the late 90s-early/mid 00s when they rode bigger boards?
 I'm guessing it's pretty common knowledge that in the whole shop wall was 7.5/7.75 years that many pros actually rode much bigger boards but if that pro was on ventures on thunders how were they getting trucks to match? Old stock, getting specially made shit just for them?

Or same question the other way when some pros were riding like 7.25-7.4 what's the point of the axle was sticking way out

[moonordie]

What non Indy trucks were pros riding in the late 90s-early/mid 00s when they rode bigger boards?
 I'm guessing it's pretty common knowledge that in the whole shop wall was 7.5/7.75 years that many pros actually rode much bigger boards but if that pro was on ventures on thunders how were they getting trucks to match? Old stock, getting specially made shit just for them?

Or same question the other way when some pros were riding like 7.25-7.4 what's the point of the axle was sticking way out

Maybe Fury's, they had a stacked team with people who strike me as wide board guys (Hawk, Burnquist, Rowley, Saari, etc.)

[Mbrimson88]

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What non Indy trucks were pros riding in the late 90s-early/mid 00s when they rode bigger boards?
 I'm guessing it's pretty common knowledge that in the whole shop wall was 7.5/7.75 years that many pros actually rode much bigger boards but if that pro was on ventures on thunders how were they getting trucks to match? Old stock, getting specially made shit just for them?

Or same question the other way when some pros were riding like 7.25-7.4 what's the point of the axle was sticking way out

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Maybe Fury's, they had a stacked team with people who strike me as wide board guys (Hawk, Burnquist, Rowley, Saari, etc.)

Rowley always skated the 146 trucks from Stage 8 or similar and made them last years.  Still did last time someone asked which was a while ago now.

Hawk rode 8.25 boards for a long time, only went up to 8.5 when Riley had a wider board than him.

Trying to remember what Bob rode, but I think when he was out here for X Games, he was on about an 8 like everyone else, only riding those big rigs on the super vert / mega ramp type things a lot later in the timeline.

Not sure what a lot of others skated, but I know people like Dan Drehobl had a struggle with 8.5 Ventures, then went to Indy, but that was way later anyway.


It is a bit of an interesting one, because even most of the "wide board" guys were still only on 8 or at absolute max 8.25 more than anything else, from what people were saying.

Maybe there was a fair bit of the Reynolds type action going on too - wider board, narrow trucks?

[moonordie]

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What non Indy trucks were pros riding in the late 90s-early/mid 00s when they rode bigger boards?
 I'm guessing it's pretty common knowledge that in the whole shop wall was 7.5/7.75 years that many pros actually rode much bigger boards but if that pro was on ventures on thunders how were they getting trucks to match? Old stock, getting specially made shit just for them?

Or same question the other way when some pros were riding like 7.25-7.4 what's the point of the axle was sticking way out

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Maybe Fury's, they had a stacked team with people who strike me as wide board guys (Hawk, Burnquist, Rowley, Saari, etc.)

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Rowley always skated the 146 trucks from Stage 8 or similar and made them last years.  Still did last time someone asked which was a while ago now.

Hawk rode 8.25 boards for a long time, only went up to 8.5 when Riley had a wider board than him.

Trying to remember what Bob rode, but I think when he was out here for X Games, he was on about an 8 like everyone else, only riding those big rigs on the super vert / mega ramp type things a lot later in the timeline.

Not sure what a lot of others skated, but I know people like Dan Drehobl had a struggle with 8.5 Ventures, then went to Indy, but that was way later anyway.


It is a bit of an interesting one, because even most of the "wide board" guys were still only on 8 or at absolute max 8.25 more than anything else, from what people were saying.

Maybe there was a fair bit of the Reynolds type action going on too - wider board, narrow trucks?

As I remember Reynolds goes 139 on 8.5

[Mean salto]

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What non Indy trucks were pros riding in the late 90s-early/mid 00s when they rode bigger boards?
 I'm guessing it's pretty common knowledge that in the whole shop wall was 7.5/7.75 years that many pros actually rode much bigger boards but if that pro was on ventures on thunders how were they getting trucks to match? Old stock, getting specially made shit just for them?

Or same question the other way when some pros were riding like 7.25-7.4 what's the point of the axle was sticking way out

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Maybe Fury's, they had a stacked team with people who strike me as wide board guys (Hawk, Burnquist, Rowley, Saari, etc.)

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Rowley always skated the 146 trucks from Stage 8 or similar and made them last years.  Still did last time someone asked which was a while ago now.

Hawk rode 8.25 boards for a long time, only went up to 8.5 when Riley had a wider board than him.

Trying to remember what Bob rode, but I think when he was out here for X Games, he was on about an 8 like everyone else, only riding those big rigs on the super vert / mega ramp type things a lot later in the timeline.

Not sure what a lot of others skated, but I know people like Dan Drehobl had a struggle with 8.5 Ventures, then went to Indy, but that was way later anyway.


It is a bit of an interesting one, because even most of the "wide board" guys were still only on 8 or at absolute max 8.25 more than anything else, from what people were saying.

Maybe there was a fair bit of the Reynolds type action going on too - wider board, narrow trucks?

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As I remember Reynolds goes 139 on 8.5

Drehoble was one I had in mind. Matt reason and Templeton too and then later cole and duffel but yeah probable they were all just on the 147s/5.2s. I did 8.25-8.6 at that time on venture 5.2s but of course I'm no pro.

[Xen]

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What non Indy trucks were pros riding in the late 90s-early/mid 00s when they rode bigger boards?
 I'm guessing it's pretty common knowledge that in the whole shop wall was 7.5/7.75 years that many pros actually rode much bigger boards but if that pro was on ventures on thunders how were they getting trucks to match? Old stock, getting specially made shit just for them?

Or same question the other way when some pros were riding like 7.25-7.4 what's the point of the axle was sticking way out

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Maybe Fury's, they had a stacked team with people who strike me as wide board guys (Hawk, Burnquist, Rowley, Saari, etc.)

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Rowley always skated the 146 trucks from Stage 8 or similar and made them last years.  Still did last time someone asked which was a while ago now.

Hawk rode 8.25 boards for a long time, only went up to 8.5 when Riley had a wider board than him.

Trying to remember what Bob rode, but I think when he was out here for X Games, he was on about an 8 like everyone else, only riding those big rigs on the super vert / mega ramp type things a lot later in the timeline.

Not sure what a lot of others skated, but I know people like Dan Drehobl had a struggle with 8.5 Ventures, then went to Indy, but that was way later anyway.


It is a bit of an interesting one, because even most of the "wide board" guys were still only on 8 or at absolute max 8.25 more than anything else, from what people were saying.

Maybe there was a fair bit of the Reynolds type action going on too - wider board, narrow trucks?

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As I remember Reynolds goes 139 on 8.5

*did

He's usually on an 8.125" now and his struggle is 139 vs 144s

[JM]

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What non Indy trucks were pros riding in the late 90s-early/mid 00s when they rode bigger boards?
 I'm guessing it's pretty common knowledge that in the whole shop wall was 7.5/7.75 years that many pros actually rode much bigger boards but if that pro was on ventures on thunders how were they getting trucks to match? Old stock, getting specially made shit just for them?

Or same question the other way when some pros were riding like 7.25-7.4 what's the point of the axle was sticking way out

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Maybe Fury's, they had a stacked team with people who strike me as wide board guys (Hawk, Burnquist, Rowley, Saari, etc.)

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Rowley always skated the 146 trucks from Stage 8 or similar and made them last years.  Still did last time someone asked which was a while ago now.

Hawk rode 8.25 boards for a long time, only went up to 8.5 when Riley had a wider board than him.

Trying to remember what Bob rode, but I think when he was out here for X Games, he was on about an 8 like everyone else, only riding those big rigs on the super vert / mega ramp type things a lot later in the timeline.

Not sure what a lot of others skated, but I know people like Dan Drehobl had a struggle with 8.5 Ventures, then went to Indy, but that was way later anyway.


It is a bit of an interesting one, because even most of the "wide board" guys were still only on 8 or at absolute max 8.25 more than anything else, from what people were saying.

Maybe there was a fair bit of the Reynolds type action going on too - wider board, narrow trucks?

I can finally argue something with knowledge from all the magazines I read in the late 90’s.

Reynolds said his board was 7.88 on birdhouse.

**hey who wants a big ol’ punch in the nostalgia?!!

[mstuntbless]

Nike blazers: skated the mids and loved them. Just got a pair of the GT lows and they are not hitting the same. For some reason they feel slightly bigger

[CarcassToss]

When pros said "way wider" it wasn't decks from today minus BA. He had the fists deck which was sold in 8.25, but I think that he also rode it in larger sizes.

I got to see a ton of pros skate growing up given our location. I don't recall ever seeing anything noticeably large, so my guess is 7.75-8 was a "larger" board when their pro model was in a smaller size that sold better. 8's weren't exactly super uncommon my friend was flowed from Tum Yeto and rode an 8 for most of our HS years and convinced me to ride 7.875-8 and I was able to find 7.75-8" trucks and never rode Indys.

[Xen]

BITD 8.25 was like equivalent of riding an 9" or some shit...it was all 7.5/7.675/7.75/7.875/7.9 - it's as if they tried EVERYTHING to avoid making
W I D E  8"  boards...not sure 8.125s even existed back then, just a straight jump to 8.5s; 8.25s were super rare.

[rocklobster]

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Anyone use a fitness tracker while skating? I use a Garmin Instinct 2 for day-to-day and runs, Instinct while skating but the HR monitoring is very inaccurate. Thinking of using a smaller Vivosmart 5 while skating.

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I use my apple watch for all my workouts. I usually forgot to turn tracking on when I first start skating, usually lose 30min or so.

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Same. First started to record the workouts when I was losing weight, now I don’t care much anymore, but still turn it on to make sure I don’t go over my max heart rate. (220-age=178)

What I wish they would add (and I’ve asked Apple before) is to add a distance tracking to the skate workout.

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Yeah, distance would be rad...doesn't for just about all the other common 'traveling' type workouts (nothing for rowing either).

I'll probably use my Instinct 2 for skateboarding and get a proper running watch (Forerunner 265) with music so I can listen to stuff during my long runs. Sucks that Garmin doesn't have a skateboarding activity, I just have it as Cardio which tracks HR zones which is good enough.

[CarcassToss]

I remember having quite a few Think 7.875-8, but I remember some hilariously odd all sizes like the 7.42 Kalis deck (or close) and loads of shit that was like 7.625785. But yah after 8 it was like reallllly wide, Indy's, and "large" wheels like 55's. I do remember the Shorty's team coming through and my friend asked Muska to ride his setup, Muska being a legend let him, and it was an 8 with absolutely rock solid Indy's.

That's actually when I got the idea to measure my decks and lots of the time all of those sizes were just 7.5 or 7.75. I learned to stop caring after a while, but I did catch on quickly that 7.75 trucks were more fun to skate. I did have a decent amount of Toy Machine fists decks with 7.75 Thunders I believe it was the Low Voltage model.

[Blind Fisherman]

I'm having shit luck with ordering things online lately.. Anyone have trouble with skate warehouse not replying to emails or sending tracking info? I ordered a board last Thursday and haven't heard a thing back from them even after emailing them twice.

[CarcassToss]

Ordered from them twice in the last 2 weeks and both orders had tracking within 2hrs and arrived as stated. Check your spam.

[JM]

I'm having shit luck with ordering things online lately.. Anyone have trouble with skate warehouse not replying to emails or sending tracking info? I ordered a board last Thursday and haven't heard a thing back from them even after emailing them twice.

Support an actual skate shop: shoplurker.com

[CarcassToss]

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What non Indy trucks were pros riding in the late 90s-early/mid 00s when they rode bigger boards?
 I'm guessing it's pretty common knowledge that in the whole shop wall was 7.5/7.75 years that many pros actually rode much bigger boards but if that pro was on ventures on thunders how were they getting trucks to match? Old stock, getting specially made shit just for them?

Or same question the other way when some pros were riding like 7.25-7.4 what's the point of the axle was sticking way out

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Maybe Fury's, they had a stacked team with people who strike me as wide board guys (Hawk, Burnquist, Rowley, Saari, etc.)

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Rowley always skated the 146 trucks from Stage 8 or similar and made them last years.  Still did last time someone asked which was a while ago now.

Hawk rode 8.25 boards for a long time, only went up to 8.5 when Riley had a wider board than him.

Trying to remember what Bob rode, but I think when he was out here for X Games, he was on about an 8 like everyone else, only riding those big rigs on the super vert / mega ramp type things a lot later in the timeline.

Not sure what a lot of others skated, but I know people like Dan Drehobl had a struggle with 8.5 Ventures, then went to Indy, but that was way later anyway.


It is a bit of an interesting one, because even most of the "wide board" guys were still only on 8 or at absolute max 8.25 more than anything else, from what people were saying.

Maybe there was a fair bit of the Reynolds type action going on too - wider board, narrow trucks?

How on earth was Bob ever on Anti Hero given their strict team vibe check?

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I'm having shit luck with ordering things online lately.. Anyone have trouble with skate warehouse not replying to emails or sending tracking info? I ordered a board last Thursday and haven't heard a thing back from them even after emailing them twice.

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Support an actual skate shop: shoplurker.com

I usually do, but I found the same board I've been in love with on their site for like $50. Gotta take a deal where I can. I finally heard back from them after I posted in this thread and my board showed up about 20 minutes ago.

[Mbrimson88]

How on earth was Bob ever on Anti Hero given their strict team vibe check?

When the "Hellride" crew first went to Brazil in the 90s, Bob was there, no big sponsors or anything and he readily jumped in the team van with the AH crew at the time.  In those early years he was still so raw and keen, so was absolutely one of the usual AH type of dudes, but over time things changed, sponsors outside of skateboarding provided more income for him and he parted ways with AH to then pursue the competitions and mega ramp and other aspects of the bright lights and so on.

I think in an interview there was a little remorse in parting ways, but it seemed he and everyone else was stoked on his AH years and he still has the tramp stamp and is fond of that time, so it is not all quite as some people might think, looking at his Flip years or more recent skating anyway.


Edit:

Board timeline:

AH from 1995 to 1999, then The Firm 2000 to 2005 or so, then Flip after that.

Brands like Hurley, Oakley and similar were against the AH vibe, so that was around 2000 that things changed.

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I'm having shit luck with ordering things online lately.. Anyone have trouble with skate warehouse not replying to emails or sending tracking info? I ordered a board last Thursday and haven't heard a thing back from them even after emailing them twice.

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Support an actual skate shop: shoplurker.com

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I usually do, but I found the same board I've been in love with on their site for like $50. Gotta take a deal where I can. I finally heard back from them after I posted in this thread and my board showed up about 20 minutes ago.

Yup. If you don't have what I want, I go to the shop(s) that have it; really hate ordering from multiple (shipping costs) shops so whatever shop has 'everything I need' at that time get's my dolla. Last nights order was from a semi-local LA shop since they had both the deck and rare V5 stfs  I wanted, on saaaaaaleeeee. Shout out Concrete Disciples with the worst  fucking website design ever  (but great email communication: order received, order processing, processed, order shipped - 1 day to boot).

Still stuck in the early 2Ks
https://www.concretedisciples.com/homepage/

[mstuntbless]

Got some hand me down spitfires that a friend never used. They have tread on them and I noticed the newer models do not have that. Think they are still legit?

[Mbrimson88]

Got some hand me down spitfires that a friend never used. They have tread on them and I noticed the newer models do not have that. Think they are still legit?

Spitfire Formula Four wheels are smooth, always have been, but the original formula Spitfire wheels have always had treaded riding surfaces and still do.

For the most part, the original formula was more prone to flatspots, especially when brand new with the tread slipping, but if they are older, they skate a whole lot better than when brand new, so just go easy on them til the tread wears off and they should go nicely.

[mstuntbless]

^thank you!

[CarcassToss]

Can you bend slightly bent axles back? If so, what is the best way without wrecking the threads in a vice? I was thinking of getting a few nuts from the hardware store and threading them on so they cover all the threads (or one long one) and then putting in a vice where the nuts and just eyeballing it back to normal.

[JM]

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I'm having shit luck with ordering things online lately.. Anyone have trouble with skate warehouse not replying to emails or sending tracking info? I ordered a board last Thursday and haven't heard a thing back from them even after emailing them twice.

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Support an actual skate shop: shoplurker.com

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I usually do, but I found the same board I've been in love with on their site for like $50. Gotta take a deal where I can. I finally heard back from them after I posted in this thread and my board showed up about 20 minutes ago.

Well cheers to you getting the delivery! 

I guess I’ve forgotten what it was like to need to save money on skate stuff. The full price “premium” I guess is worth it to me knowing I’m supporting small businesses, but I do remember not caring about that stuff way back.

I did buy decks during the 303 holiday sale where things were 33% off. That was on top of sale decks that were around two years old.

It could be argued 303 is by no means a small business, but they at least seem to support the local skate scene.

[JM]

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I'm having shit luck with ordering things online lately.. Anyone have trouble with skate warehouse not replying to emails or sending tracking info? I ordered a board last Thursday and haven't heard a thing back from them even after emailing them twice.

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Support an actual skate shop: shoplurker.com

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I usually do, but I found the same board I've been in love with on their site for like $50. Gotta take a deal where I can. I finally heard back from them after I posted in this thread and my board showed up about 20 minutes ago.

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Yup. If you don't have what I want, I go to the shop(s) that have it; really hate ordering from multiple (shipping costs) shops so whatever shop has 'everything I need' at that time get's my dolla. Last nights order was from a semi-local LA shop since they had both the deck and rare V5 stfs  I wanted, on saaaaaaleeeee. Shout out Concrete Disciples with the worst  fucking website design ever  (but great email communication: order received, order processing, processed, order shipped - 1 day to boot).

Still stuck in the early 2Ks
https://www.concretedisciples.com/homepage/

I lol’d.

They used to be so much worse ordered FP insole from them 4-5 years ago. It was so awful!

[Mbrimson88]

Can you bend slightly bent axles back? If so, what is the best way without wrecking the threads in a vice? I was thinking of getting a few nuts from the hardware store and threading them on so they cover all the threads (or one long one) and then putting in a vice where the nuts and just eyeballing it back to normal.

I have had enough success with just hitting bent axle hangers with a hammer.

My go to is keeping a nut on the end, sit the hanger somewhere secure like against a curb or a concrete edge (footpath joins work well too), sometimes with something under the pivot point (like an old pivot cup) and put a solid hammer hit down on the end of the hanger just before the axle.  Check then repeat if needed.

Any truck that is bent once is going to be weaker, but I have repurposed a lot of used trucks and this seems to work really well for almost all the trucks that have had moderately bent axles.

Regular and hollow do tend to bend back way more easily than ti axles for me, but others have still hammered their ti axles straight again, so I guess it is down to how hard, how big the hammer is, etc.

Hope that helps.


* Other people who have machines and other things often can get them to work, but also some don't, but at least a man with a hammer can get it done well enough, if you don't have access to expensive / heavy machinery.