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[Underpressureflips]

Does anyone else miss when shoes had less branding on them? I feel like in this era, if you want a decent skate shoe, you gotta be cool with a giant ass logo on the side. Obviously there are exceptions like the half cab. But damn.

For example, I’ve been tempted to buy some ASICS gel vickas or nb 440’s but the giant logo on both shoes turn me off. It’s just not aesthetically pleasing to my taste. But I also grew in a time when the accel was THE shoe.

I know this is a me problem. But just hoping someone else can relate, haha.

As I get older, logos or even graphics on anything are a turn-off. I like minimalism now. I used to associate that with being poor when I was young and shallow.

[lildonut92]

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Does anyone else miss when shoes had less branding on them? I feel like in this era, if you want a decent skate shoe, you gotta be cool with a giant ass logo on the side. Obviously there are exceptions like the half cab. But damn.

For example, I’ve been tempted to buy some ASICS gel vickas or nb 440’s but the giant logo on both shoes turn me off. It’s just not aesthetically pleasing to my taste. But I also grew in a time when the accel was THE shoe.

I know this is a me problem. But just hoping someone else can relate, haha.

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Yes, I’m with you.
Cupsole Half Cab supposed to be coming out this year; problem solved.

I just went digging for pics in the upcoming shoes thread. Hell yeah. I can get behind that. As much as I hate to say it, I would also probably skate the ksl3’s that are supposed to come out this year. Not really trying to support soletech but Spanky is one of my all time favorites. Might get roasted by kids at the local but I’m too old to be caring about shit like that.

[logjammin]

Does anyone else miss when shoes had less branding on them? I feel like in this era, if you want a decent skate shoe, you gotta be cool with a giant ass logo on the side. Obviously there are exceptions like the half cab. But damn.

For example, I’ve been tempted to buy some ASICS gel vickas or nb 440’s but the giant logo on both shoes turn me off. It’s just not aesthetically pleasing to my taste. But I also grew in a time when the accel was THE shoe.

I know this is a me problem. But just hoping someone else can relate, haha.

I remember when new balance numeric first hit the scene, I thought they were the dumbest and most boring shoe you could choose. just an N stitched on the side of the shoe as a logo...wtf? they've grown on me and now they're dominating the market with quality and support. but yeah, most of the time I find their colorways way too busy.

something like the KSL G6 with good support and simplicity is exactly what I look for in a shoe these days. I thought I was a 1010 lifer but the arch does something now and keeps making me pull this one tendon by my big toe, so I can't wear them anymore.

[Unkle Fleak]

Does anyone else miss when shoes had less branding on them? I feel like in this era, if you want a decent skate shoe, you gotta be cool with a giant ass logo on the side. Obviously there are exceptions like the half cab. But damn.

For example, I’ve been tempted to buy some ASICS gel vickas or nb 440’s but the giant logo on both shoes turn me off. It’s just not aesthetically pleasing to my taste. But I also grew in a time when the accel was THE shoe.

I know this is a me problem. But just hoping someone else can relate, haha.

Ipath

[Obijuan91]

Flat concave decks. I thought I was a fan of mellow decks  but got a flat deck with steep kicks and it just feels off. Anyone else have any experience with that?

[turdtastic]

Flat concave decks. I thought I was a fan of mellow decks  but got a flat deck with steep kicks and it just feels off. Anyone else have any experience with that?

Not sure, but I keep thinking that I want the opposite; mellow kicks w/medium->steepish concave…

[Sloppy Krooks]

Been wearing NB 1010s for 2 years while skating in the warm tropics, great for durability and enough board feel. Now I'm skating in the UK winter and I feel like I cant feel my board anymore. Thinking of swapping to a thinner cupsole like the NB 600 or 440.

Does anyone else swap shoes between seasons?

Yup. Canvas Last Resorts and slip-one in the summer, Half-cabs in the colder seasons

[Fire Air Walk with Me]

Does anyone else miss when shoes had less branding on them? I feel like in this era, if you want a decent skate shoe, you gotta be cool with a giant ass logo on the side. Obviously there are exceptions like the half cab. But damn.

For example, I’ve been tempted to buy some ASICS gel vickas or nb 440’s but the giant logo on both shoes turn me off. It’s just not aesthetically pleasing to my taste. But I also grew in a time when the accel was THE shoe.

I know this is a me problem. But just hoping someone else can relate, haha.

The Asics Spylte has a black out logo look and is durable af

[Obijuan91]

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Flat concave decks. I thought I was a fan of mellow decks  but got a flat deck with steep kicks and it just feels off. Anyone else have any experience with that?

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Not sure, but I keep thinking that I want the opposite; mellow kicks w/medium->steepish concave…

 That’s what I think works best for me too
Flat with steep kicks makes the board feel too weird

[Mbrimson88]

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Flat concave decks. I thought I was a fan of mellow decks  but got a flat deck with steep kicks and it just feels off. Anyone else have any experience with that?

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Not sure, but I keep thinking that I want the opposite; mellow kicks w/medium->steepish concave…

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 That’s what I think works best for me too
Flat with steep kicks makes the board feel too weird

The funny thing is "flat" boards are often a whole different thing, compared to mellow concave, medium concave or steep concave.

I have some that are so flat I am wondering if there is any at all and I can only see it when I sit something flat across the board, because I sure can't feel it under my feet.

On the flip side, boards with too much concave just hurt my feet, more than anything, as I feel like my heel and my toes are being bent upwards to accommodate the middle for how much lower it is.  Maybe a big foot problem, more than anything.


Then you have the angle of the kicks in the mix too, so as much as you can get different concave with different angle kicks, I feel like it is all relative and the mellow concave with mellow kicks works best for me, whereas some people I skate with love the steep concave and steep kicks.  Most people will be in the middle of that though, so around medium concave with medium kicks.

At least I can mellow out steeper kicks, but I can't mellow out steeper concave, so if I do get something that has a good concave, I can deal with steeper kicks by flexing out the board (usually by driving over it) but that is NOT something I would recommend for everyone.



Sometimes more concave and mellow kicks can just feel a little wrong too, but again it depends on the board, the manufacturer (as to how much concave it actually has) and most importantly the individual skater, as it just comes down to what you are used to, or what you like.

If we were talking DSM boards, they would often have that laser etched on them, with the other specs of the deck, whereas some others just don't have anything on them and it is more the luck of the draw, eg BBS boards can be so here and there between different concaves of the same exact board, but at least then I can pick and choose which ones I want to ride and which ones to pass on / sell in the shop.

[Obijuan91]

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Flat concave decks. I thought I was a fan of mellow decks  but got a flat deck with steep kicks and it just feels off. Anyone else have any experience with that?

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Not sure, but I keep thinking that I want the opposite; mellow kicks w/medium->steepish concave…

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 That’s what I think works best for me too
Flat with steep kicks makes the board feel too weird

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The funny thing is "flat" boards are often a whole different thing, compared to mellow concave, medium concave or steep concave.

I have some that are so flat I am wondering if there is any at all and I can only see it when I sit something flat across the board, because I sure can't feel it under my feet.

On the flip side, boards with too much concave just hurt my feet, more than anything, as I feel like my heel and my toes are being bent upwards to accommodate the middle for how much lower it is.  Maybe a big foot problem, more than anything.


Then you have the angle of the kicks in the mix too, so as much as you can get different concave with different angle kicks, I feel like it is all relative and the mellow concave with mellow kicks works best for me, whereas some people I skate with love the steep concave and steep kicks.  Most people will be in the middle of that though, so around medium concave with medium kicks.

At least I can mellow out steeper kicks, but I can't mellow out steeper concave, so if I do get something that has a good concave, I can deal with steeper kicks by flexing out the board (usually by driving over it) but that is NOT something I would recommend for everyone.



Sometimes more concave and mellow kicks can just feel a little wrong too, but again it depends on the board, the manufacturer (as to how much concave it actually has) and most importantly the individual skater, as it just comes down to what you are used to, or what you like.

If we were talking DSM boards, they would often have that laser etched on them, with the other specs of the deck, whereas some others just don't have anything on them and it is more the luck of the draw, eg BBS boards can be so here and there between different concaves of the same exact board, but at least then I can pick and choose which ones I want to ride and which ones to pass on / sell in the shop.

Funny enough it was a dsm board and I got 2 of em, they’re going for sale online now it’s just doesn’t feel right. I like mellow boards so when I read it online I thought I’d be fine with it. But it’s just soooo bad, makes me wonder about mellow board but i feel it’s the steepnkicks on it. Never again I guess

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Flat concave decks. I thought I was a fan of mellow decks  but got a flat deck with steep kicks and it just feels off. Anyone else have any experience with that?

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Not sure, but I keep thinking that I want the opposite; mellow kicks w/medium->steepish concave…

[close]

 That’s what I think works best for me too
Flat with steep kicks makes the board feel too weird

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The funny thing is "flat" boards are often a whole different thing, compared to mellow concave, medium concave or steep concave.

I have some that are so flat I am wondering if there is any at all and I can only see it when I sit something flat across the board, because I sure can't feel it under my feet.

On the flip side, boards with too much concave just hurt my feet, more than anything, as I feel like my heel and my toes are being bent upwards to accommodate the middle for how much lower it is.  Maybe a big foot problem, more than anything.


Then you have the angle of the kicks in the mix too, so as much as you can get different concave with different angle kicks, I feel like it is all relative and the mellow concave with mellow kicks works best for me, whereas some people I skate with love the steep concave and steep kicks.  Most people will be in the middle of that though, so around medium concave with medium kicks.

At least I can mellow out steeper kicks, but I can't mellow out steeper concave, so if I do get something that has a good concave, I can deal with steeper kicks by flexing out the board (usually by driving over it) but that is NOT something I would recommend for everyone.



Sometimes more concave and mellow kicks can just feel a little wrong too, but again it depends on the board, the manufacturer (as to how much concave it actually has) and most importantly the individual skater, as it just comes down to what you are used to, or what you like.

If we were talking DSM boards, they would often have that laser etched on them, with the other specs of the deck, whereas some others just don't have anything on them and it is more the luck of the draw, eg BBS boards can be so here and there between different concaves of the same exact board, but at least then I can pick and choose which ones I want to ride and which ones to pass on / sell in the shop.

I’ve heard of this before, but have also heard that it makes the board soggy/lose pop quicker.
What’s your opinion/experience on that?

[Crabby_Bastard]

I have been parking my wife's car, over night in my garage, on top of the tail of new boards for probably 50% of the boards I have skated in the last 7 years. I have never had an issue with the boards getting soggy or losing pop early.

For reference, the car is a Mini Cooper so it is not very heavy compared to most cars. I don't think I would do that with a minivan or truck though. The boards are usually Clutch or BBS wood.

[turdtastic]

I have been parking my wife's car, over night in my garage, on top of the tail of new boards for probably 50% of the boards I have skated in the last 7 years. I have never had an issue with the boards getting soggy or losing pop early.

For reference, the car is a Mini Cooper so it is not very heavy compared to most cars. I don't think I would do that with a minivan or truck though. The boards are usually Clutch or BBS wood.

Good to know!
Bummed I gave away a brand new Quasi last year that had suuuuper steep kicks…

[Mbrimson88]

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Flat concave decks. I thought I was a fan of mellow decks  but got a flat deck with steep kicks and it just feels off. Anyone else have any experience with that?

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Not sure, but I keep thinking that I want the opposite; mellow kicks w/medium->steepish concave…

[close]

 That’s what I think works best for me too
Flat with steep kicks makes the board feel too weird

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At least I can mellow out steeper kicks, but I can't mellow out steeper concave, so if I do get something that has a good concave, I can deal with steeper kicks by flexing out the board (usually by driving over it) but that is NOT something I would recommend for everyone.

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I’ve heard of this before, but have also heard that it makes the board soggy/lose pop quicker.
What’s your opinion/experience on that?

Quite simply, I have ruined more than one good board before by overdoing it, so there is that to think about, but generally, it gives my board just a little more flex, or lowers the angle of the tail enough that it works well for me, when I did it right.

Some boards like a BBS board just recently, I had three runs over it to get it right, first before skating it (as usual), set it up, too steep, second just slowly up onto the tail to just before bolts, then off, skated it again, still too steep, third time, same just up on to the kick to before the bolts, now pretty much perfect and still super snappy.

I think it really depends on a number of circumstances, but just one slow drive right over it usually mellows it out just enough, but parking on the kick end before or just on the bolts is the best way to mellow out a kick without flexing the board out / making it feel soggy.  Parking past the bolts towards the middle really flexes the board the wrong way, so I try to not linger in that area at all when driving over it now.  It did take me quite a while to figure the whole thing out perfectly though and I do have lots of boards that I have maybe flattened a little too much in the tail in the past.


Note:  I am old, I don't need to ollie high anymore, but can still get up on a bench if needed, knee high, but the main thing for me is making the tail feel worn in and comfortable, more so than brand new crispy and very poppy.

Ben deGros said when he did something similar, it made the brand new board feel a week or so old, which I could also say is true as I prefer a moderately worn in board, over a brand new one, which feels way too stiff for what I like.

[back smith]

This car trick sounds like making a deck that first gets better before it starts getting worse into one that just gets worse.

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Flat concave decks. I thought I was a fan of mellow decks  but got a flat deck with steep kicks and it just feels off. Anyone else have any experience with that?

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Not sure, but I keep thinking that I want the opposite; mellow kicks w/medium->steepish concave…

[close]

 That’s what I think works best for me too
Flat with steep kicks makes the board feel too weird

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At least I can mellow out steeper kicks, but I can't mellow out steeper concave, so if I do get something that has a good concave, I can deal with steeper kicks by flexing out the board (usually by driving over it) but that is NOT something I would recommend for everyone.

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I’ve heard of this before, but have also heard that it makes the board soggy/lose pop quicker.
What’s your opinion/experience on that?

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Quite simply, I have ruined more than one good board before by overdoing it, so there is that to think about, but generally, it gives my board just a little more flex, or lowers the angle of the tail enough that it works well for me, when I did it right.

Some boards like a BBS board just recently, I had three runs over it to get it right, first before skating it (as usual), set it up, too steep, second just slowly up onto the tail to just before bolts, then off, skated it again, still too steep, third time, same just up on to the kick to before the bolts, now pretty much perfect and still super snappy.

I think it really depends on a number of circumstances, but just one slow drive right over it usually mellows it out just enough, but parking on the kick end before or just on the bolts is the best way to mellow out a kick without flexing the board out / making it feel soggy.  Parking past the bolts towards the middle really flexes the board the wrong way, so I try to not linger in that area at all when driving over it now.  It did take me quite a while to figure the whole thing out perfectly though and I do have lots of boards that I have maybe flattened a little too much in the tail in the past.


Note:  I am old, I don't need to ollie high anymore, but can still get up on a bench if needed, knee high, but the main thing for me is making the tail feel worn in and comfortable, more so than brand new crispy and very poppy.

Ben deGros said when he did something similar, it made the brand new board feel a week or so old, which I could also say is true as I prefer a moderately worn in board, over a brand new one, which feels way too stiff for what I like.

Thanks, some very good points here as well; very thoughtful/thorough as usual!!
I think I remember MJ or Ellington saying somewhere in an interview years ago that he’d park on each side for like 15-20 minutes, which now sounds insane based on your protocol…

[Mbrimson88]

This car trick sounds like making a deck that first gets better before it starts getting worse into one that just gets worse.

Yeah, that is what Ben said - took away the first two weeks of "new board feel" which some people might prefer, but others definitely do not.

For the people who swap out a board because it feels like it has lost the new crispyness, it is not for you.

For the people who usually have a board feeling best once well worn in, it is perfect for them (and for me).


Definitely not for everyone, not by a long shot.

[Obijuan91]

So y’all are saying I can fix my flat board with steep kicks by parking on it 🤔 even if it’s dsm wood?
Idk if I’m down for all them extra steps but if anyone rides a 8.125

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186980679772?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=TB56WJj7T42&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=TB56WJj7T42&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Message me and I’ll set it as a buy it now

[Mbrimson88]

Thanks, some very good points here as well; very thoughtful/thorough as usual!!
I think I remember MJ or Ellington saying somewhere in an interview years ago that he’d park on each side for like 15-20 minutes, which now sounds insane based on your protocol…

I do recall various times, even leaving a board for a few hours, which I think might have flattened it nicely, or maybe a little too much.  I have a Corolla, so a small car, comparatively speaking, so it is not a whole lot of weight.

It really depends on the car / vehicle and how steep the board was originally and how people want the kick angle to end up.

Also note that after parking on it, or driving over it, I usually leave it a while before gripping it, at least til next day, because it does spring back a fair bit usually.  More than once, I have parked on a board, then gone to check it and thought I must have ruined it, only to have it come back nicely or sometimes even too much, but in general leave it after doing it and check it again in 24 hours or so.

There is no real science to it, but more just experimenting and figuring out what works.


Also the temperature of the tyres and the general temperature have a big part to play, eg cold tyres are better than warm tyres, but warm weather is better than cold weather for flattening boards.  Warm tyres apply too much heat through the board so it will usually flex too much.  Cold weather can cause the board to break, more than just flex, so if it is cold, leave the board out in the sun, grip side up, for a while first.

[GnarAlarm]

Has anyone skated a deck from South Central woodshop?

5Boro is a company that seems like it's been around forever but I've basically never given a second thought, but there's a Shinya Nohara pro model deck that's the right size and I like the graphic. Thinking about picking it up but I've never skated a South Central deck in my life. Anyone ever skated one before?

[standfast]

5boro skate great. Mellow concave and slightly thicker wood.

[GnarAlarm]

5boro skate great. Mellow concave and slightly thicker wood.

Thank you! Would you say they're heavier than other decks?

[rosemaryBB]

Not really a gear question, but didn’t want to make a new post in the Useless thread - anyone ever rubbrick (or something comparable) rough ground at a spot? Seems like it would work, but maybe just be wildly labor intensive?

[hiljentaa]

Not really a gear question, but didn’t want to make a new post in the Useless thread - anyone ever rubbrick (or something comparable) rough ground at a spot? Seems like it would work, but maybe just be wildly labor intensive?

Yeah, I've done that on textured concrete. It definitely works, but it will absolutely wreck your brickrub and you'll need to sweep after.

Might be worth it/way cheaper to use an actual brick? Dunno haven't tried that myself.

[Osage]

Not really a gear question, but didn’t want to make a new post in the Useless thread - anyone ever rubbrick (or something comparable) rough ground at a spot? Seems like it would work, but maybe just be wildly labor intensive?

  Did this last week. It took a spot from not really skateable to skateable. I could have done a better job but it definitely worked.

[formula420]

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Not really a gear question, but didn’t want to make a new post in the Useless thread - anyone ever rubbrick (or something comparable) rough ground at a spot? Seems like it would work, but maybe just be wildly labor intensive?

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  Did this last week. It took a spot from not really skateable to skateable. I could have done a better job but it definitely worked.

https://drptools.com/products/mop-rub-brick-20-grit-w-o-handle

[WashingtonNECKTIE]

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Not really a gear question, but didn’t want to make a new post in the Useless thread - anyone ever rubbrick (or something comparable) rough ground at a spot? Seems like it would work, but maybe just be wildly labor intensive?

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  Did this last week. It took a spot from not really skateable to skateable. I could have done a better job but it definitely worked.

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https://drptools.com/products/mop-rub-brick-20-grit-w-o-handle

I thought of a diamond-bit angle grinder at first, but a pole tool would do some good work as well. Either way is likely more spendy than burning a rub brick or two, but it's labor vs longevity vs cost at that point.

If the above tool was hard as fuck, that'd be optimal. I think a rub brick type material could be too soft to last for too many jobs. Could be wrong.

These conversations are exactly why I don't have a thousand masonry/concrete tools.......

[rawbertson.]

i did it once just in a square area about 2x2' around where you take off in front of a ledge and it made it a lot easier to set up flip tricks
it felt like an insane amount of work
i have thougth about doing skim coats over stuff before or other ideas of pouring overtop. i know they wont last super long but maybe can re do it every season or two kind of thing depending how heavily it gets sessioned

[Unkle Fleak]

How do I reach out to more heads?
Like public mutual therapy
Is there an app where you go to video chat random people? I like slap irl but not