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Does someone know where i can find nose and tail lengths for Fa/Hockey shapes (for every size) ?


I feel like all the shops that usually have all dimensions including nose and tail are not the sort of shops that get Hockey and FA boards, with all the other boutique type shops almost never having those measurements.

On hand I have most of the boards, from 8.25, 8.38, 8.5, 8.75 and 9.0 so can dig them out and measure them, but was there anything in particular you were after?


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Maybe someone that has ordered from BBS can answer this for me…
I have noticed that some companies list BBS premium wood for their boards. Is there a different quality that can be ordered?

My most recent Black Label is stiffer and super poppy compared to some other companies that use BBS. It’s also embossed. I have noticed the same feel on Carpet and Limosine decks as well…compared to like a Magenta or DLX deck.


I haven't heard about "premium" wood but I have heard quite a few things that I would consider more a funny marketing phrase or two used by brands to describe their products, more so than what the woodshops actually put out, including the old "Made in..." for some brands, that have Made in USA when clearly the woodshop is based in Mexico.


There are definitely different layups and quality of wood veneer varies, be it from the pricepoint decks, some Generator or more basic options to some very specific boards for certain brands as well.

Some people have mentioned how some boards looked thicker and others thinner in the veneer layers, others like pricepoint boards with all natural layers just felt soggy and broke more easily, or that some boards have lasted way longer than others and put it down to something similar, while all still coming from the same woodshop too.


In terms of those brands you listed, I think I have all of those in some form or another, mostly in 8.38 or 8.5 sizes, definitely noticing that the Black Label boards I got more recently were way steeper in concave and angle of kicks than some of the other boards, which can go towards making a board feel stiffer or stronger as well.

Two Magenta boards were a bit more "normal" feeling, but one was almost like it was a different concave, very flat and more flexible than the other two, which I like, along with my IV stamped DLX boards, so being flatter they are more likely to flex as well.

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Does someone know where i can find nose and tail lengths for Fa/Hockey shapes (for every size) ?
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I feel like all the shops that usually have all dimensions including nose and tail are not the sort of shops that get Hockey and FA boards, with all the other boutique type shops almost never having those measurements.

On hand I have most of the boards, from 8.25, 8.38, 8.5, 8.75 and 9.0 so can dig them out and measure them, but was there anything in particular you were after?
i know that sometimes Skatedeluxe is off with the measurements but it's probably the best solution right now. I just don't like browsing on skateboarding amazon...
thanks, you're the best but don't bother. I have them at the shop too, i was just being lazy and didn't want to bother myself with conversions from metric to imperial.

I'm making a run of boards with shape and dimensions supposed to be really close to FA/Hockey's.
I wanted to compare before getting the boards at the shop.
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Maybe someone that has ordered from BBS can answer this for me…
I have noticed that some companies list BBS premium wood for their boards. Is there a different quality that can be ordered?

My most recent Black Label is stiffer and super poppy compared to some other companies that use BBS. It’s also embossed. I have noticed the same feel on Carpet and Limosine decks as well…compared to like a Magenta or DLX deck.
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I haven't heard about "premium" wood but I have heard quite a few things that I would consider more a funny marketing phrase or two used by brands to describe their products, more so than what the woodshops actually put out, including the old "Made in..." for some brands, that have Made in USA when clearly the woodshop is based in Mexico.


There are definitely different layups and quality of wood veneer varies, be it from the pricepoint decks, some Generator or more basic options to some very specific boards for certain brands as well.

Some people have mentioned how some boards looked thicker and others thinner in the veneer layers, others like pricepoint boards with all natural layers just felt soggy and broke more easily, or that some boards have lasted way longer than others and put it down to something similar, while all still coming from the same woodshop too.


In terms of those brands you listed, I think I have all of those in some form or another, mostly in 8.38 or 8.5 sizes, definitely noticing that the Black Label boards I got more recently were way steeper in concave and angle of kicks than some of the other boards, which can go towards making a board feel stiffer or stronger as well.

Two Magenta boards were a bit more "normal" feeling, but one was almost like it was a different concave, very flat and more flexible than the other two, which I like, along with my IV stamped DLX boards, so being flatter they are more likely to flex as well.
I know that magenta now have two concaves - the old more mellowish one and since last year they make some models with the new steeper one. I had one deck from 2021 that was more mellow and it felt kind of soft very fast and chipped easier. Now i am skating another one from the last year that has this steeper concave and it feels more solid and have only 1 tiny chip after 2 months of only street skating. Now it feels softer but the first month the pop was super crisp,

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Maybe someone that has ordered from BBS can answer this for me…
I have noticed that some companies list BBS premium wood for their boards. Is there a different quality that can be ordered?

My most recent Black Label is stiffer and super poppy compared to some other companies that use BBS. It’s also embossed. I have noticed the same feel on Carpet and Limosine decks as well…compared to like a Magenta or DLX deck.
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I haven't heard about "premium" wood but I have heard quite a few things that I would consider more a funny marketing phrase or two used by brands to describe their products, more so than what the woodshops actually put out, including the old "Made in..." for some brands, that have Made in USA when clearly the woodshop is based in Mexico.


There are definitely different layups and quality of wood veneer varies, be it from the pricepoint decks, some Generator or more basic options to some very specific boards for certain brands as well.

Some people have mentioned how some boards looked thicker and others thinner in the veneer layers, others like pricepoint boards with all natural layers just felt soggy and broke more easily, or that some boards have lasted way longer than others and put it down to something similar, while all still coming from the same woodshop too.


In terms of those brands you listed, I think I have all of those in some form or another, mostly in 8.38 or 8.5 sizes, definitely noticing that the Black Label boards I got more recently were way steeper in concave and angle of kicks than some of the other boards, which can go towards making a board feel stiffer or stronger as well.

Two Magenta boards were a bit more "normal" feeling, but one was almost like it was a different concave, very flat and more flexible than the other two, which I like, along with my IV stamped DLX boards, so being flatter they are more likely to flex as well.
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I know that magenta now have two concaves - the old more mellowish one and since last year they make some models with the new steeper one. I had one deck from 2021 that was more mellow and it felt kind of soft very fast and chipped easier. Now i am skating another one from the last year that has this steeper concave and it feels more solid and have only 1 tiny chip after 2 months of only street skating. Now it feels softer but the first month the pop was super crisp,

Thanks ! I know that steeper molds can make a deck feel stiffer for sure…I just never knew if they offered a higher grade veneer or setup. It’s probably marketing😀 the new BL series have super steep kicks for sure.

I agree about Magenta decks, they used to chip on the edges super easy but have improved recently.

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Does someone know where i can find nose and tail lengths for Fa/Hockey shapes (for every size) ?
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I feel like all the shops that usually have all dimensions including nose and tail are not the sort of shops that get Hockey and FA boards, with all the other boutique type shops almost never having those measurements.

On hand I have most of the boards, from 8.25, 8.38, 8.5, 8.75 and 9.0 so can dig them out and measure them, but was there anything in particular you were after?
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i know that sometimes Skatedeluxe is off with the measurements but it's probably the best solution right now. I just don't like browsing on skateboarding amazon...
thanks, you're the best but don't bother. I have them at the shop too, i was just being lazy and didn't want to bother myself with conversions from metric to imperial.

I'm making a run of boards with shape and dimensions supposed to be really close to FA/Hockey's.
I wanted to compare before getting the boards at the shop.

I'd like to suggest you get a measurement tape with both metric and inch measurements on it. Those are so good for measuring decks. I think every shop should have one or at the very least a tape with inches on it. It's such a fucking chore converting from metric to inches and you always get some funky numbers which you end up doubting if they're this or that. I had a hard time finding one in Finland but in the end found one in one of the cheapest tool shops we have, Swedish Biltema.

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I found another account for a guy who makes his own boards, more specifically some big, long, wide and very much custom to order type of things, which is always so good.


https://texicanskateboards.bigcartel.com/

https://www.instagram.com/texicanskateboards/

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Some pics from his store, seeing as Instagram posts are not loading / on a privacy setting that doesn't allow reposting.








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New GX decks are bbs  now? German site says so.

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Palace 8.25 specs look so good. Not into palace but maybe I’ll try one.
Nose could be a bit fuller and it would be perfect.

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New GX decks are bbs  now? German site says so.


If I get this right, people have said Quasi and GX1000 are from the same people / place / distro and last thing I recall others had said about it was they were going ahead with both PS Stix and BBS for their boards for the foreseeable future.

Something to do with their riders, some liking PS Stix, some liking BBS, with other people saying they could ensure they have the most options with their products.


At least it is interesting to hear / see companies / distribution places doing this, as most will go all in with just one woodshop / supplier and stick with it until something better comes up.

Either way it is always interesting to hear how many boards are X and how many boards are Y woodshop in their latest releases.



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scam skate out of winnipeg canada, not sure who they make. looks like you can order custom decks.

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New GX decks are bbs  now? German site says so.
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If I get this right, people have said Quasi and GX1000 are from the same people / place / distro and last thing I recall others had said about it was they were going ahead with both PS Stix and BBS for their boards for the foreseeable future.

Something to do with their riders, some liking PS Stix, some liking BBS, with other people saying they could ensure they have the most options with their products.


At least it is interesting to hear / see companies / distribution places doing this, as most will go all in with just one woodshop / supplier and stick with it until something better comes up.

Either way it is always interesting to hear how many boards are X and how many boards are Y woodshop in their latest releases.


That was definitely the reason for Quasi doing boards from both woodshops. I'm interested if there is a connection between Quasi and GX. I'd never heard that.

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I heard quasi and GX have the same shapes, but never really knew if true.


Do you guys know the tail lengths of 8 and 8.125 AWS and GX decks? The new GX seem to be differ t again.

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I was looking at the alien website
Their 8 and 8.125 come in few different lengths and wheelbases

It doesn't have tail lengths but it still might be worth a look if you haven't already

skatedeluxe.com when looking for dimensions of decks lately
They don't have all brands but the site is pretty good


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I was looking at the alien website
Their 8 and 8.125 come in few different lengths and wheelbases

It doesn't have tail lengths but it still might be worth a look if you haven't already

skatedeluxe.com when looking for dimensions of decks lately
They don't have all brands but the site is pretty good


Yeah looked on both too, but unfortunately skatedeluxe only has one old 8.125 Alien and no 8/8.125
Gx from the new drop.

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I was looking at the alien website
Their 8 and 8.125 come in few different lengths and wheelbases

It doesn't have tail lengths but it still might be worth a look if you haven't already

skatedeluxe.com when looking for dimensions of decks lately
They don't have all brands but the site is pretty good
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Yeah looked on both too, but unfortunately skatedeluxe only has one old 8.125 Alien and no 8/8.125
Gx from the new drop.


I know some people don't like certain shop sites as they think they are unreliable, but I would say check out these following sites to get more info (for GX1000 and Quasi that is):


https://gx1000.com/

Has info on which woodshop they use

eg:

https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/drug-cult-8-0

Details:
■8" X 31.625" WB 14"
■ Manufactured at BBS


https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/stick-up-8-125

Details:
■8.125" X 31.75" WB 14.125"
■ Manufactured at BBS


https://www.tactics.com/search/gx1000

https://www.tactics.com/search/quasi/decks

Has info on board dimensions including nose and tails

eg:

https://www.tactics.com/gx1000/dmt-i-8125-skateboard-deck

SPECS
SIZE   8.125
WIDTH (IN):   8.125
LENGTH (IN):   31.75
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.125
NOSE (IN):   6.875
TAIL (IN):   6.375


https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/crockett-horses-8125-skateboard-deck

SPECS
SIZE   8.125
WIDTH (IN):   8.125
LENGTH (IN):   31.75
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.125
NOSE (IN):   6.875
TAIL (IN):   6.375


Then:

https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/poem-8125-skateboard-deck

PECS
SIZE   8.125
WIDTH (IN):   8.125
LENGTH (IN):   31.375
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.125
NOSE (IN):   6.81
TAIL (IN):   6.43




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scam skate out of winnipeg canada, not sure who they make. looks like you can order custom decks.


Yeah, a one stop shop, in every sense of the word.

Skate shop, ramp, presses and automated machinery with a heat transfer machine.

That's pretty cool to see.



https://www.instagram.com/scamskate/

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I heard quasi and GX have the same shapes, but never really knew if true.


Do you guys know the tail lengths of 8 and 8.125 AWS and GX decks? The new GX seem to be differ t again.


I should have read over it better, but yeah, re Alien Workshop decks in 8.0 and 8.125, from Tactics again:


https://www.tactics.com/search/alien/decks


Not sure how accurate some of those measurements were, as it seemed like this one had left out something, so I filled it in - it had 14.5 wb which is definitely not correct.


SPECS
SIZE   8.0
WIDTH (IN):   8.0
LENGTH (IN):   31.75
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.5


https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/thrasher-x-alien-believe-80-skateboard-deck/orange-graphic

SPECS
SIZE   8.0
WIDTH (IN):   8.0
LENGTH (IN):   31.625
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   6.9
TAIL (IN):   6.5


https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/guevara-mojave-owl-8125-skateboard-deck

SPECS
SIZE   8.125
WIDTH (IN):   8.125
LENGTH (IN):   31.5
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.0
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.625

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Palace experiences?

Is the nose on the fuller side or average popsicle?
8.25 I mean.


Are they heavier? A friend told me they are.

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Palace experiences?

Is the nose on the fuller side or average popsicle?
8.25 I mean.


Are they heavier? A friend told me they are.

If it helps here's a top down view of an 8.1 Palace board. Wouldn't say they're heavier imo, atleast to me they're just run of the mill DSM boards nothing spectacular but nothing necessarily bad either. Tail feels a little pointy.


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Palace experiences?

Is the nose on the fuller side or average popsicle?
8.25 I mean.


Are they heavier? A friend told me they are.
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If it helps here's a top down view of an 8.1 Palace board. Wouldn't say they're heavier imo, atleast to me they're just run of the mill DSM boards nothing spectacular but nothing necessarily bad either. Tail feels a little pointy.



Thanks!

Really looks pretty long and pointy here.
I find them 8.25‘s interesting cause they are not that long though.

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Open Source skate for custom made shapes. pretty interesting.



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Another small custom board maker, from NSW, Australia.


https://www.instagram.com/kin_skateboards/


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Open Source skate for custom made shapes. pretty interesting.





That was an interesting watch.

I think the main thing here is people outside of the normal size, shape, height, length of limbs often don't fit what might be considered a normal skateboard, which is why there are so many more diverse sizes in boards coming out in recent years, especially in the shorter overall board length, with comparable wheelbases, such as the DLX Tru Fit sized boards.


https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-2023




At least that way a lot more people should be able to get a shorter board that would be a lot easier for them to skate.


As to Open Source Skateboards, the guy sure does a lot of interesting things, as per the instagram account I see I already follow, but it is worth a look for anyone else too.


https://www.instagram.com/opensourceboards/


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Any experiences with Point Distribution in here? Their website is a mess.

I'm looking for a place that does small runs (think 10-20 decks) for a project.

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Madness question again:

Venture high trucks (had hollows and will get lights now) and had the best pop with pizza and AWS 8.25. they all have long tails and I think I’m just not a short tail guy.
Still those decks are both pretty long with 32+ and I’d like to try a shorter deck.

What brand has 14“wb, longer tail, 31.8 and under decks?


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Madness question again:

Venture high trucks (had hollows and will get lights now) and had the best pop with pizza and AWS 8.25. they all have long tails and I think I’m just not a short tail guy.
Still those decks are both pretty long with 32+ and I’d like to try a shorter deck.

What brand has 14“wb, longer tail, 31.8 and under decks?
Primitive has 8.25 with 14 wb and 31.875 length which is gonna be perfect for you - Prod is rocking this combo with the ventures ;)
Girl/chocolate has 3 shapes 8.25 with 14 wb and around 31.8 https://crailtap.com/shapes The tails are on the steeper side and some people here have said they didnt like this combo, I have tried a friends board with this longer tail shape G027 but it was with thunder 147 which is lower to the ground and it was good, but if it was with higher trucks i bet i wouldnt touch it.
April skateboards also have 8.25 with 14 wb but they are listed with 31,92 length.

Edit:
Oh, i forgot about the Real true fit shapes that have been released recently https://www.realskateboards.com - 8.25 is 31.5 long and has 13.88 wb which combined with the ventures is gonna hell of a setup, if it s not too short for your legs ;)
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Any experiences with Point Distribution in here? Their website is a mess.

I'm looking for a place that does small runs (think 10-20 decks) for a project.


No personal experience, but in the main search for Point Distribution there are two pages from Shoes and Gear that have some relevant links and info.


Small run thread from a while back might be of interest:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=102571.0

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I don't know how many boards you want but Point Distribution has a 25 deck minimum. Good quality for sure. I've exclusively been skating their decks since 2012. Also, no resale license or documents needed.
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Can vouch for this, I did a run through them back in 2012 and were some of the best boards we ever got, they even let us use our custom 8.8" shape which I think they actually continued on using as it was solid shape for a steep concave Popsicle


Mellow decks thread:

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https://pointdistribution.com/custom_skateboard/

their mellow shape is the flattest shit I've skated since highschool. I fucking hated it. but some people like flat boards
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 Point Distribution Mellow = approximate 19.25°nose and 18.5°tail with a medium center concave.

Powell K20 decks have mellower kicks  = 18°nose and 18°tail



Point wheels - not quite decks, but a comment anyway:


Point wheels aren't that bad; I've had a few sets. Durability-wise they could be better, I've had sets that I've flatspotted pretty quickly and they don't last as long as a lot of other wheels.
Feeling-wise I'd say they're pretty good. They give a real good slide and they have just the right amount of grip.
Point's warehouse is in the same city I live in, and their stuff is obviously pretty easily accessible here, so I find myself riding Point product quite often. For the price it's really not that bad at all.