decided to make a list of brands that I actually give a shit about and delete the rest.
Wanted to see if anyone can clarify a few things:
1. are all AWS / habitat boards by BBS now?
2. are all Alltimers boards by BBS now?
3. Birdhouse?
4.What is the deal with Foundation and Toy Machine? says Pro Boards PS Stix but they also use BBS?
5. are King and Violet really done by both PS Stix and BBS? First I have heard of this
6. Are Tired + skate menetal done by both still?
I deleted stuff like Hockey from PS STix because it has been so long since they were on PS anyway and seems like they are not going back. so trying to make the list more clear for normal human beings. If there is anything people know that PS or BBS is not making any more please let me know!
The hardest thing with even the last 40 pages is all of this is down to people providing information about boards they have bought, way more so than any brands helping with information about their woodshop changes. Sure some do provide info and are helpful, but others even reply with some cryptic crap and don't actually seem like they want to help at all - not naming names, because after all this is an open forum, but the interesting thing is there had been messages in the past re good and bad responses to the list from various people, some wanting their brands taken off the list entirely, others wanting to correct information provided that had been posted, etc.
As to the questions, this is the best of my knowledge right now:
1. (as rock lobster said) AWS / Habitat use both BBS and China woodshop (unknown) depending on runs or where in the world, or even pricepoint boards (China) and pro boards (BBS) from what I have seen here.
2. Alltimers were on BBS but recently people had said they had changed again, now Clutch (again) so you would need to check with the shop before you buy.
3. Birdhouse - similar to AWS / question 1 answer, but they definitely have the same graphics on both BBS and China wood here, which makes it confusing for some people - cheaper board is China (unknown woodshop) and more expensive board is BBS.
4. Foundation / Toy Machine have been here and there with a lot of things. From checking top pics of boards that shops post, it still seemed like they were on both but maybe more so PS Stix in recent drops. Again it would be a check and see. They are all still on cheap China (woodshop unknown) here in AU but other parts of the world are very different.
5. King / Violet are a couple of curious ones. Not a lot of boards from either, but definitely some with PS Stix markings on top, but also others saying there were some BBS boards too, so again it is down to maybe who rides what on the teams, like Quasi / GX1000 in that some riders prefer PS Stix and some BBS so they have both woodshops on the go.
6. I haven't seen or heard anything from either recently, Tired / Skate Mental being on PS Stix, then on Clutch I think for a bit, then just looking at a few places, Tactics has Tired boards with BBS sticker placement.
https://www.tactics.com/tired/workstation-925-wanderer-shape-skateboard-deckI guess bottom line is people still need to keep this updated with their boards they have bought and what woodshop they are on, if known, or at the very least, pics of the boards so it is easier to work out what they are / where they are from.
Anything and everything helps, but I do often use Skate Warehouse, Tactics and quite a few other shops as a rough guide when they have top pics of the boards, more so than just dimensions or only the graphic pic shown.