CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2025 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc

[Woodshop]

They definitely advertise as made in mexico. I don’t think they’re Chinese boards.

Looking through all available info and I am still no closer to knowing anything more, but any which way, they don't seem to be making their own boards on a large scale like they used to, but do buy in a lot of boards ready for printing or selling as blanks, which is all that matters.

I think the best way to compare is standing on them / putting them together with known woodshops, to compared concave and see, but a Death board I stood on not too long ago was definitely something else, not a known concave from any of the other woodshops in both look and feel.

Always curious to know or hear more though, so thanks for the pics and info.


* Didn't ever mean to sound like I was being a pain either - just curious as to what woodshop(s) are providing the wood.

[mrosk8]

woodchuck is china 100%
tryed some after they move from canada.
kind of nothing special deck, you see the difference with bbs
lately i tried different HLc and they are way different than before and good

[mrosk8]

I just ordered a hopps and a traffic deck from Mantis online shop. Turns out mantis/mdcn basically just prints the logos of these brands on their own cheap China wood. The decks were a different shape than the actual American models, too. I fuckin hate mdcn wood. It Feels bad, and doesn’t last long. I don’t know if this means all European hopps and traffic decks are mdcn or mdcn just has a license to make these cheap “counterfit“ decks for the German market.

not in all europe, the guys at Playwood in Italy still having Generator decks
yes i don't like the mdcn wood too

[Woodshop]

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I just ordered a hopps and a traffic deck from Mantis online shop. Turns out mantis/mdcn basically just prints the logos of these brands on their own cheap China wood. The decks were a different shape than the actual American models, too. I fuckin hate mdcn wood. It Feels bad, and doesn’t last long. I don’t know if this means all European hopps and traffic decks are mdcn or mdcn just has a license to make these cheap “counterfit“ decks for the German market.

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not in all europe, the guys at Playwood in Italy still having Generator decks
yes i don't like the mdcn wood too

Thanks for the info.

Rad clips you have too - saw from the Setups thread and followed the link from there.


I also hadn't seen the Playwood printing instagram account, already following the Playwood distribution account, so just adding a few things from it here.


Playwood

Playwood Printing Project
We Print the best quality #Skateboards
for your Shop/Company.
.
Booking always open
.
Based in Campania-Italy
[email protected]
www.playwood-printing.com

https://www.instagram.com/playwoodprinting/

[GumOnMyGrip]

This is just some general deck nerdiness but I got my hands on a Pylon. Pipeline concave. Here’s the look if anyone is interested. DEEEEEEP! And stiff.

[mrosk8]

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I just ordered a hopps and a traffic deck from Mantis online shop. Turns out mantis/mdcn basically just prints the logos of these brands on their own cheap China wood. The decks were a different shape than the actual American models, too. I fuckin hate mdcn wood. It Feels bad, and doesn’t last long. I don’t know if this means all European hopps and traffic decks are mdcn or mdcn just has a license to make these cheap “counterfit“ decks for the German market.

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not in all europe, the guys at Playwood in Italy still having Generator decks
yes i don't like the mdcn wood too

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Thanks for the info.

Rad clips you have too - saw from the Setups thread and followed the link from there.


I also hadn't seen the Playwood printing instagram account, already following the Playwood distribution account, so just adding a few things from it here.


Playwood

Playwood Printing Project
We Print the best quality #Skateboards
for your Shop/Company.
.
Booking always open
.
Based in Campania-Italy
[email protected]
www.playwood-printing.com

https://www.instagram.com/playwoodprinting/

Thanks a lot
and thanks for sharing the printing side

we try our best on both Distr and Printing.

[Schinken]

This is just some general deck nerdiness but I got my hands on a Pylon. Pipeline concave. Here’s the look if anyone is interested. DEEEEEEP! And stiff.

Shape and concave look like it is a Zero board.
Edit: Does anyone know if OSM presses their own decks or are they imported?

[Woodshop]

This is just some general deck nerdiness but I got my hands on a Pylon. Pipeline concave. Here’s the look if anyone is interested. DEEEEEEP! And stiff.

Shape and concave look like it is a Zero board.

Yeah looks like a good one!

Thanks for the various pics too.

Does anyone know if OSM presses their own decks or are they imported?

I don't know from just OSM so can you give a little more detail, eg where in the world, even just continent, along with is it a brand, a shop, a distro, etc?

I tried looking but nothing really came up that I thought was relevant enough, but it was probably right there all along and I just didn't see it.

[pointandclick]

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This is just some general deck nerdiness but I got my hands on a Pylon. Pipeline concave. Here’s the look if anyone is interested. DEEEEEEP! And stiff.

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Shape and concave look like it is a Zero board.

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Yeah looks like a good one!

Thanks for the various pics too.

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Does anyone know if OSM presses their own decks or are they imported?

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I don't know from just OSM so can you give a little more detail, eg where in the world, even just continent, along with is it a brand, a shop, a distro, etc?

I tried looking but nothing really came up that I thought was relevant enough, but it was probably right there all along and I just didn't see it.

OSM is olive skateboard manufacturing, based just outside of edmonton alberta.
he makes all his own boards, in canada. he had to rebuild his factory after a fire he had a few years ago.
theyve been making skate and snowboards forever, they end up being pretty heavy and thick.
https://www.oliveskateboards.com/
randy the owner is pretty chill, does his own thing and makes what he wants, not really catering to industry standards.
but truthfully most people find the boards too clunky.

[Woodshop]

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This is just some general deck nerdiness but I got my hands on a Pylon. Pipeline concave. Here’s the look if anyone is interested. DEEEEEEP! And stiff.

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Shape and concave look like it is a Zero board.

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Yeah looks like a good one!

Thanks for the various pics too.

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Does anyone know if OSM presses their own decks or are they imported?

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I don't know from just OSM so can you give a little more detail, eg where in the world, even just continent, along with is it a brand, a shop, a distro, etc?

I tried looking but nothing really came up that I thought was relevant enough, but it was probably right there all along and I just didn't see it.

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OSM is olive skateboard manufacturing, based just outside of edmonton alberta.
he makes all his own boards, in canada. he had to rebuild his factory after a fire he had a few years ago.
theyve been making skate and snowboards forever, they end up being pretty heavy and thick.
https://www.oliveskateboards.com/
randy the owner is pretty chill, does his own thing and makes what he wants, not really catering to industry standards.
but truthfully most people find the boards too clunky.

Thanks!

Olive now rings a bell - following their account on instagram, so I think someone somewhere mentioned it.

Pylon commented on their last post, so I guess they get boards from there?

Sorry if already mentioned, but I am a bit out of it right now - late night work, early morning start, etc.

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This is just some general deck nerdiness but I got my hands on a Pylon. Pipeline concave. Here’s the look if anyone is interested. DEEEEEEP! And stiff.

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Shape and concave look like it is a Zero board.

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Yeah looks like a good one!

Thanks for the various pics too.

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Does anyone know if OSM presses their own decks or are they imported?

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I don't know from just OSM so can you give a little more detail, eg where in the world, even just continent, along with is it a brand, a shop, a distro, etc?

I tried looking but nothing really came up that I thought was relevant enough, but it was probably right there all along and I just didn't see it.

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OSM is olive skateboard manufacturing, based just outside of edmonton alberta.
he makes all his own boards, in canada. he had to rebuild his factory after a fire he had a few years ago.
theyve been making skate and snowboards forever, they end up being pretty heavy and thick.
https://www.oliveskateboards.com/
randy the owner is pretty chill, does his own thing and makes what he wants, not really catering to industry standards.
but truthfully most people find the boards too clunky.

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Thanks!

Olive now rings a bell - following their account on instagram, so I think someone somewhere mentioned it.

Pylon commented on their last post, so I guess they get boards from there?

Sorry if already mentioned, but I am a bit out of it right now - late night work, early morning start, etc.

yeah, no stress. olive/osm makes pylon for them.

[Shrimp]

I'm trying to break free from BBS and PS Stix right now; I want to try something different for the sake of trying something different. I've tried Dwindle and Clutch boards in the past and had mixed feelings on both. Anyone have opinions on South Central? I've been eyeing a couple Bacon boards, but before I order I'm curious what they're like. Shape, durability, etc. Also looking at HLC decks. I've searched the forum for discussions on both, but figured I'd ask here since a lot of the threads on these woodshops are ancient.

[moonordie]

I'm trying to break free from BBS and PS Stix right now; I want to try something different for the sake of trying something different. I've tried Dwindle and Clutch boards in the past and had mixed feelings on both. Anyone have opinions on South Central? I've been eyeing a couple Bacon boards, but before I order I'm curious what they're like. Shape, durability, etc. Also looking at HLC decks. I've searched the forum for discussions on both, but figured I'd ask here since a lot of the threads on these woodshops are ancient.

HLC boards tend to be a little heavier than BBS but nothing too dramatic. I had several and never had a problem.

[rikki]

Yeah, HLC decks tend to be a bit thicker and heavier. I didn't hate the last one I skated, but it felt great to get back on a BBS deck.

[moonordie]

Yeah, HLC decks tend to be a bit thicker and heavier. I didn't hate the last one I skated, but it felt great to get back on a BBS deck.

Also noses on HLC tend to be a little smaller than tour usual BBS. Again, nothing too serious. Is a great alternative if you want to switch your usual board manufacturer.

[moonordie]

Any idea what Toy is using currently? Last one I had was during covid times around 2020 and it was awful. Ofc because od the new video and Rowley in I want to try again...

[Notyourmom]

Any idea what Toy is using currently? Last one I had was during covid times around 2020 and it was awful. Ofc because od the new video and Rowley in I want to try again...

Depends on where you at I would say. Bought a toy board (bury the hatched graphic) because it’s advertised as a twin on the toy website but in Europe it’s a standard popsicle made in china.

[rocklobster]

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Yeah, HLC decks tend to be a bit thicker and heavier. I didn't hate the last one I skated, but it felt great to get back on a BBS deck.

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Also noses on HLC tend to be a little smaller than tour usual BBS. Again, nothing too serious. Is a great alternative if you want to switch your usual board manufacturer.

Seconded on the pointier kicks, not as tapered like Element (BBS),

[mrosk8]

Any idea what Toy is using currently? Last one I had was during covid times around 2020 and it was awful. Ofc because od the new video and Rowley in I want to try again...

I think in US Toy is Watson(did they bought it?)
in Europe is china crap wood

[Woodshop]

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Any idea what Toy is using currently? Last one I had was during covid times around 2020 and it was awful. Ofc because od the new video and Rowley in I want to try again...

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I think in US Toy is Watson(did they bought it?)
in Europe is china crap wood

The only Toy Machine boards I have seen here in AU are also on the China wood, but the pro boards are said to be PS Stix, at least they look like that in USA, from places like Skate Warehouse that show top pics of those boards.  A couple look like BBS but then a couple don't have any sticker / markings on top, which I usually associate with China wood.

PS Stix has the sticker up above the front bolts, with laser engraving, BBS has sticker in the middle of front bolts, just for reference there.

Just checked Tactics too, for another point of reference.  I didn't check every board, but almost all I checked were PS Stix, one BBS, a couple no tops, so I am guessing they are pretty much all that now at least.



https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKTOYMACH.html

https://www.tactics.com/toy-machine/skateboard-decks



@moonordie I would say check some of the shops that have pics of tops in EU or as close to you as you can, otherwise, as @mrosk8 said, you might be very disappointed - honestly I wouldn't want any of those China made boards I had seen - just weird shapes and sizes and very average quality.

[moonordie]

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Any idea what Toy is using currently? Last one I had was during covid times around 2020 and it was awful. Ofc because od the new video and Rowley in I want to try again...

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I think in US Toy is Watson(did they bought it?)
in Europe is china crap wood

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The only Toy Machine boards I have seen here in AU are also on the China wood, but the pro boards are said to be PS Stix, at least they look like that in USA, from places like Skate Warehouse that show top pics of those boards.  A couple look like BBS but then a couple don't have any sticker / markings on top, which I usually associate with China wood.

PS Stix has the sticker up above the front bolts, with laser engraving, BBS has sticker in the middle of front bolts, just for reference there.

Just checked Tactics too, for another point of reference.  I didn't check every board, but almost all I checked were PS Stix, one BBS, a couple no tops, so I am guessing they are pretty much all that now at least.



https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKTOYMACH.html

https://www.tactics.com/toy-machine/skateboard-decks



@moonordie I would say check some of the shops that have pics of tops in EU or as close to you as you can, otherwise, as @mrosk8 said, you might be very disappointed - honestly I wouldn't want any of those China made boards I had seen - just weird shapes and sizes and very average quality.

When I was living in Chile some years ago I had a Chinese one and ugh...

[TwisT]

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Any idea what Toy is using currently? Last one I had was during covid times around 2020 and it was awful. Ofc because od the new video and Rowley in I want to try again...

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I think in US Toy is Watson(did they bought it?)
in Europe is china crap wood

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The only Toy Machine boards I have seen here in AU are also on the China wood, but the pro boards are said to be PS Stix, at least they look like that in USA, from places like Skate Warehouse that show top pics of those boards.  A couple look like BBS but then a couple don't have any sticker / markings on top, which I usually associate with China wood.

PS Stix has the sticker up above the front bolts, with laser engraving, BBS has sticker in the middle of front bolts, just for reference there.

Just checked Tactics too, for another point of reference.  I didn't check every board, but almost all I checked were PS Stix, one BBS, a couple no tops, so I am guessing they are pretty much all that now at least.



https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Toy_Machine_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKTOYMACH.html

https://www.tactics.com/toy-machine/skateboard-decks



@moonordie I would say check some of the shops that have pics of tops in EU or as close to you as you can, otherwise, as @mrosk8 said, you might be very disappointed - honestly I wouldn't want any of those China made boards I had seen - just weird shapes and sizes and very average quality.

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When I was living in Chile some years ago I had a Chinese one and ugh...

The last toy machine I had was USA made. Screen Printed. came with a large sticker too! about as wide as the board


I thought it may have been South Central because of the weird bevel of the rails

[MxsDx]

I'm trying to break free from BBS and PS Stix right now; I want to try something different for the sake of trying something different. I've tried Dwindle and Clutch boards in the past and had mixed feelings on both. Anyone have opinions on South Central? I've been eyeing a couple Bacon boards, but before I order I'm curious what they're like. Shape, durability, etc. Also looking at HLC decks. I've searched the forum for discussions on both, but figured I'd ask here since a lot of the threads on these woodshops are ancient.

I've skated both South Central and HLC.  I mostly agree with what others have said about HLC, but will add that their concave and kicks are very mellow if you are into that (at least the Roger and Sour shapes I skated).  South Central decks are thicker, heavier, and stiffer than BBS.  The South Central concave and kicks are usually pretty steep.  Good overall value and durability with both manufacturers; I would gladly skate either before grabbing a Clutch deck or even PS Stix.

[Woodshop]

The last toy machine I had was USA made. Screen Printed. came with a large sticker too! about as wide as the board

I thought it may have been South Central because of the weird bevel of the rails

That board looks like a really good shape too!

Was that from this year, last year or longer?


I think of any bigger brand, Toy Machine has been one of the most inconsistent with random / irregular woodshop changes, seemingly whatever they could get to fulfil order numbers, more than keeping things of a level quality of product.

It would be good to have some better boards out there, not just in USA, but I really don't know what is going on there, hard times, changes in distribution, etc.


Thanks for posting that one though - I recall our old friend who I haven't seen in a while posting about all the different wood options with Toy from when he would buy them there in USA too, so it is good to have some more info there.

[j....soy.....]

I've given up on Toy but Watson?  If it's still even around?  It used to be....

The rule of thumb with Toy is the shittier the graphic, the better the board is ie. pro boards.....

I still think classic toy graphics on BBS would be a poorman's eagle....

[TwisT]

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The last toy machine I had was USA made. Screen Printed. came with a large sticker too! about as wide as the board

I thought it may have been South Central because of the weird bevel of the rails

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That board looks like a really good shape too!

Was that from this year, last year or longer?


I think of any bigger brand, Toy Machine has been one of the most inconsistent with random / irregular woodshop changes, seemingly whatever they could get to fulfil order numbers, more than keeping things of a level quality of product.

It would be good to have some better boards out there, not just in USA, but I really don't know what is going on there, hard times, changes in distribution, etc.


Thanks for posting that one though - I recall our old friend who I haven't seen in a while posting about all the different wood options with Toy from when he would buy them there in USA too, so it is good to have some more info there.

This was from earlier this year “original monster”  is the graphic name.

[Haveyouseenhim]

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The last toy machine I had was USA made. Screen Printed. came with a large sticker too! about as wide as the board

I thought it may have been South Central because of the weird bevel of the rails

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That board looks like a really good shape too!

Was that from this year, last year or longer?


I think of any bigger brand, Toy Machine has been one of the most inconsistent with random / irregular woodshop changes, seemingly whatever they could get to fulfil order numbers, more than keeping things of a level quality of product.

It would be good to have some better boards out there, not just in USA, but I really don't know what is going on there, hard times, changes in distribution, etc.


Thanks for posting that one though - I recall our old friend who I haven't seen in a while posting about all the different wood options with Toy from when he would buy them there in USA too, so it is good to have some more info there.

After watching the last video and all the spam about buying our skateboards, etc., the garbage that are the Toy Machine Europe boards, one and no more, Titus is full of them, surely some of them are American but it is impossible to know which one is Chinese or America

[j....soy.....]

If it doesn’t have a PS serial number or a BBS circle sticker…I’d not buy it.

I understand why Crail just partners up with a wood shop in China….its consistent. 

[Woodshop]

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The last toy machine I had was USA made. Screen Printed. came with a large sticker too! about as wide as the board

I thought it may have been South Central because of the weird bevel of the rails

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That board looks like a really good shape too!

Was that from this year, last year or longer?


I think of any bigger brand, Toy Machine has been one of the most inconsistent with random / irregular woodshop changes, seemingly whatever they could get to fulfil order numbers, more than keeping things of a level quality of product.

It would be good to have some better boards out there, not just in USA, but I really don't know what is going on there, hard times, changes in distribution, etc.


Thanks for posting that one though - I recall our old friend who I haven't seen in a while posting about all the different wood options with Toy from when he would buy them there in USA too, so it is good to have some more info there.

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After watching the last video and all the spam about buying our skateboards, etc., the garbage that are the Toy Machine Europe boards, one and no more, Titus is full of them, surely some of them are American but it is impossible to know which one is Chinese or America

Just checked Titus web site, quite a few do have stickers that I can identify, so use this as a guide - still subject to them posting pics of different board tops - but the red and white round sticker in the middle of the front bolts is BBS, as per this link:

https://www.titus-shop.com/products/toy-machine-deck-monster-natural-0101251


PS Stix serial number on this one:

https://www.titus-shop.com/products/toy-machine-deck-pattern-logo-multicolored-0267209


Then this one is China made (going by seeing those same stickers on some boards here) but I could be wrong, if it is another sticker almost the same with Made in XXX on it, eg Mexico.

https://www.titus-shop.com/products/toy-machine-deck-last-supper-multicolored-0106522


I think the best thing is usually going in to check, because most boards usually have a Made in XXX on the size sticker, or the warning sticker.

Of course, being on the other side of the world doesn't help much, but even calling and asking someone to check stickers on top of boards can help with some things.

If in doubt, just buy something you know, rather than go for a lucky dip and most likely ending up with something you don't want.

At least most of those listings, if not all do have board dimensions on them, which is always nice.

[moonordie]

I'm about to order the classics fists, always wanted it, and it seems to be BBS.
They send from Poland so hopefully I won't get that nasty Chinese one.