CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2025 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc

[hiljentaa]

End of an era.

Thank you Mr. Schmitt for your contributions to skateboarding. I will miss your personality and your wonderful 8.125 shape.

[FatGuy92]

End of an era.

Thank you Mr. Schmitt for your contributions to skateboarding. I will miss your personality and your wonderful 8.125 shape.

End of an era indeed. FWIW it looks like Schmitt is still involved in board construction to some degree. We were talking about his IG post about Cordano’s “macho tech” decks not too long ago

[Hqjdncm]

Just wanted to say I got 2 prime wood decks recently. They both have a dot between front truck holes and laser etch of deck with and concave between back trucks. And their wood has definitely improved in my opinion… but I ordered two decks and grip and bearing from a sale they were having and never got the bearings. Emailed them and they just told me to recheck the box. Like I didn’t already do it 5 times. So yea. Hope they resend the bearings cause everything else is great.

[Elijah Chandler]

Rassvet and Quasi are all BBS now

nice

[S.]

Traffic and Hopps Decks in Europe are printed at that terrible Woodshop MDCN. They are even different shapes to those from the US.

MOB Skateboards now are MDCN as well.

[Mcidraque]

Can't remember about the print but i do sure remember first Polar era (and many other EU brands) working with MDCN and personally never had any issue with them wood (have to admit though that the last one i skated might've been 2018ish) but still: decent wood and good shapes

(spaniard here, so no local bias

salud!

[mrosk8]

Traffic and Hopps Decks in Europe are printed at that terrible Woodshop MDCN. They are even different shapes to those from the US.

MOB Skateboards now are MDCN as well.

This is something just for Gemany
In Italy we have Clutch i think now and some are generator
so if u need some....

[S.]

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Traffic and Hopps Decks in Europe are printed at that terrible Woodshop MDCN. They are even different shapes to those from the US.

MOB Skateboards now are MDCN as well.

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This is something just for Gemany
In Italy we have Clutch i think now and some are generator
so if u need some....

I’d like some. Yes.

I don’t like MDCN Wood. It is like a worse version of dwindle. Very stiff, which is a good thing, but they break quickly. They are also really heavy. That’s been my experience at least with my last three decks from them. They aren’t a real Woodshop. They buy blank decks from China and print their decks in Hamburg. So the quality may vary.

[breezy_again]

i heard a rumor that girl/chocolate is switching to bbs

[hiljentaa]

Picked up two Baker OG 8.25s recently and both have dyed bottom, top and middle plies.

In the past they usually only had a dyed top ply, which is doesn't matter function wise, but felt disappointing when retail is $70+.

Glad these new ones have the 3x dyed plies. Feels more finished IMO.

[rikki]

Picked up two Baker OG 8.25s recently and both have dyed bottom, top and middle plies.

In the past they usually only had a dyed top ply, which is doesn't matter function wise, but felt disappointing when retail is $70+.

Glad these new ones have the 3x dyed plies. Feels more finished IMO.

Interesting. I have a Baker b16 that has dyed top and middle plies. The bottom ply is undyed.

Wondering about the logic.

[Mbrimson88]

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I don't know about every woodshop, but I know some charge per dyed ply, so if you have only one it costs less per board, maybe only ten cents or something but multiply that by a few thousand and it adds up.

There were often boards from Baker that had top and bottom dyed as well, but maybe more for specific runs.  Others were top and middle.

What I wonder is if they ended up with someone else's boards, which does occasionally happen, along with sometimes just getting whatever is available at the time.

[hiljentaa]

Interesting. I have a Baker b16 that has dyed top and middle plies. The bottom ply is undyed.

Wondering about the logic.

Yeah the bottom undyed ply bugs me. Part of the fun of breaking in a new board for me is sliding off the graphic to reveal the ply color.

I don't know about every woodshop, but I know some charge per dyed ply, so if you have only one it costs less per board, maybe only ten cents or something but multiply that by a few thousand and it adds up.

There were often boards from Baker that had top and bottom dyed as well, but maybe more for specific runs.  Others were top and middle.

What I wonder is if they ended up with someone else's boards, which does occasionally happen, along with sometimes just getting whatever is available at the time.

Perhaps the boards I had before with only a dyed top ply were a result of COVID shortages?

[Mbrimson88]

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Interesting. I have a Baker b16 that has dyed top and middle plies. The bottom ply is undyed.

Wondering about the logic.

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Yeah the bottom undyed ply bugs me. Part of the fun of breaking in a new board for me is sliding off the graphic to reveal the ply color.

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I don't know about every woodshop, but I know some charge per dyed ply, so if you have only one it costs less per board, maybe only ten cents or something but multiply that by a few thousand and it adds up.

There were often boards from Baker that had top and bottom dyed as well, but maybe more for specific runs.  Others were top and middle.

What I wonder is if they ended up with someone else's boards, which does occasionally happen, along with sometimes just getting whatever is available at the time.

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Perhaps the boards I had before with only a dyed top ply were a result of COVID shortages?

Re different ply layups, no I think they really had that different mix going for a long time now, but yes things seem to have tightened right down for some brands since 2020 and associated issues.  Some ages ago had a similar layup to DLX at the time, which was top and second bottom, so maybe they were using from the same board pool for that lot - I remember the 8.18 "This is your brain on Baker" graphic I had in the early to mid 00s.

Then others were top and middle for some graphics, then others specifically with stain showing through graphics had the top and bottom layers stained, then back to the top and middle again for another run after that, all of this going back easily up to ten years or so.

I don't get a lot of Bakerboys Dist boards really, but it was the same for Deathwish, Birdhouse and Heroin at different times too, so I guess it is just down to how they do them or someone there decides how they want them.  That is why more often than not I avoided the full board graphics from Bakerboys Dist as they usually were natural bottoms.

[icumonspiders]

Bought 2 Plan B boards a bit ago and they seem to be from different woodshops, one is stamped and the other isn't, and the dimensions are ever so slightly different (one is 6mm longer)

Any ideas where each of them are from? I'm in Australia and bought them from an Australian shop

[Woodshop]

Bought 2 Plan B boards a bit ago and they seem to be from different woodshops, one is stamped and the other isn't, and the dimensions are ever so slightly different (one is 6mm longer)

Any ideas where each of them are from? I'm in Australia and bought them from an Australian shop

I would imagine that they are all from HLC woodshop these days, even if they have some slight differences, or more noticeably one has the laser engraving and one does not.

When you put them together, or lay one on top of the other, both graphics down, do they line up in wheelbase and concave / angle of kicks?

Curious any which way, but thanks for the pics too, which are worth looking at.

[icumonspiders]

Wheelbase is the same, concave and kicks also seem to be the same but I don't have any tools to say for sure. Also interestingly the stamped board has a purple top and bottom veneer, with the 5 middle plies being black, the non stamped has an orange top and bottom veneer, the 3 middle plies are black and then a natural ply between the orange and black ones on each side

[icumonspiders]

I have some older (from about 4 years ago maybe) Poolroom and Pizza boards that I got for cheap that are all HLC

[Thebird]

I have some older (from about 4 years ago maybe) Poolroom and Pizza boards that I got for cheap that are all HLC

So are the hlc decks pretty mellow in the nose and tail?

[icumonspiders]

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I have some older (from about 4 years ago maybe) Poolroom and Pizza boards that I got for cheap that are all HLC

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So are the hlc decks pretty mellow in the nose and tail?

Yeah I would say so. The kicks also seem kind of short, about 3 and a half fingers to flat on a 32" length with a 14" wheelbase

[Thebird]

Yeah, they do seem to have some odd dims on quite a few of their boards.  What companies would you guys say have the flattest decks now?  Especially with DOA gone.

[Cthulhu!]

Yeah, they do seem to have some odd dims on quite a few of their boards.  What companies would you guys say have the flattest decks now?  Especially with DOA gone.

Politic runs the flats every now and then. They still happen to have a 7.5(!) and an 8.5 in stock right now.
https://politicbrand.com/collections/frontpage/products/herbert-brown-child-deck

[BALARGUE]

I have some older (from about 4 years ago maybe) Poolroom and Pizza boards that I got for cheap that are all HLC

Pizza made by HLC 4 years ago ?
They had a "made in Spain" engraving or something ? I don't think they ever made boards for Pizza.

On the previous post, 3 and a half fingers to flat and 14" wheelbase is not consistent with what they usually make.

[mrosk8]

At some point i think Pizza where done in Spain by a guy that print decks and they were probably Clutch, i think it was only for spain

[icumonspiders]

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I have some older (from about 4 years ago maybe) Poolroom and Pizza boards that I got for cheap that are all HLC

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Pizza made by HLC 4 years ago ?
They had a "made in Spain" engraving or something ? I don't think they ever made boards for Pizza.

On the previous post, 3 and a half fingers to flat and 14" wheelbase is not consistent with what they usually make.

I have a bunch of Pizza boards with the same stamp and dimensions. Same shape as the Poolroom ones I have, maybe they were made by HLC during covid shortages for certain markets?

[Woodshop]

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I have some older (from about 4 years ago maybe) Poolroom and Pizza boards that I got for cheap that are all HLC

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Pizza made by HLC 4 years ago ?
They had a "made in Spain" engraving or something ? I don't think they ever made boards for Pizza.

On the previous post, 3 and a half fingers to flat and 14" wheelbase is not consistent with what they usually make.

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I have a bunch of Pizza boards with the same stamp and dimensions. Same shape as the Poolroom ones I have, maybe they were made by HLC during covid shortages for certain markets?

That is interesting to see.

What I wonder is if they were maybe blanks sourced and then printed for whatever brand was needed at the time here in AU or if they were imported like that.

Either way, it is news to me, but I do seem to recall Pizza being one of the smaller companies that found it really hard to get wood from their usual sources so went with whatever they could get their hands on around post pandemic times.


Great pic quality too - thanks for posting!

[Woodshop]

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Re Pizza - I seem to recall seeing most of them with PS Stix laser engraving with PIZZA SKATEBOARDS on them, more than any other, like this link / pic, but as per those 2020 - 2021 weird times, anything could have happened as per those boards you have there.

This is just one example though.


https://pizzaskateboards.com/products/champs-deck-8








Or this one:

https://pizzaskateboards.com/products/last-supper-deck-8-5

[moonordie]

In all honesty, who cares/cared about Pizza?

[fakiefs180]

Hey pals, can someone explain all the different Sour shapes to me? I would like to get a 8.25 but everywhere where I look they seem to have different specs listed. I once had a Sour 8.25 but it was way too short for me. I am looking for the 31.7 or 31.8 length. I didn't knew HLC does so many different shapes.

https://mfg.hlcdist.com/shape/m0137/

It is this shape I am looking for. Sour gives their shapes some names. S1, S3 and so on. Anyone might know which one is this shape?

[icumonspiders]

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I have some older (from about 4 years ago maybe) Poolroom and Pizza boards that I got for cheap that are all HLC

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Pizza made by HLC 4 years ago ?
They had a "made in Spain" engraving or something ? I don't think they ever made boards for Pizza.

On the previous post, 3 and a half fingers to flat and 14" wheelbase is not consistent with what they usually make.

[close]

I have a bunch of Pizza boards with the same stamp and dimensions. Same shape as the Poolroom ones I have, maybe they were made by HLC during covid shortages for certain markets?

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That is interesting to see.

What I wonder is if they were maybe blanks sourced and then printed for whatever brand was needed at the time here in AU or if they were imported like that.

Either way, it is news to me, but I do seem to recall Pizza being one of the smaller companies that found it really hard to get wood from their usual sources so went with whatever they could get their hands on around post pandemic times.


Great pic quality too - thanks for posting!

What you said about blanks made me think it's possible that these graphics were printed on demand onto excess blanks HLC had lying around? The reason I say that is because the Pizza and Poolroom 8.25 boards I have are the same shape with the low concave stamp, and then the 8.5 Pizza boards I own have the same stamp except they're stamped as medium concave. I have other HLC boards from brands that are known to use HLC and none of them have the same stamp as the Pizza and Poolroom boards.