Gear madness support thread

[mstuntbless]

Alright pals I need some advice/someone to talk me down lol. For a majority of my skate career I used thunders, but always felt like my pop feel was missing. I was able to get a decent bag of flat ground tricks and a few ledge tricks. (fromt/back 50, front tail,front 5-0, bs crooked). I switched to indys and could not get them to feel right. Either too tall or too heavy. They always felt a little unstable to me. I am now on venture 5.8 standard. I can do most of my tricks that I could on thunder with a few missing. I had a bout of madness last night and put 149 mids on my board and hated it. Its like I am expecting a huge change in everything by switching a component of my gear. So I put my ventures back on and am trying to not change anything for a few weeks. For reference I am 5'10, my board is an 8.4 frog with a 14.25 wheelbase. What are your changes in mindset that help you fight the madness? I tried to have a setup that is somewhat "normal" so there are no excuses there. IDK!! please assist.
 
Something else to add: It does not matter which truck I use, I notice that in my footage my back foot comes off the board when I ollie. Sometimes a little bit, sometimes alot. So my friend was telling me to take the rest of the summer to just focus on getting a solid ollie. So that makes me think, do I need a different set-up to learn a more solid ollie? Something lower/easier to get off the ground?

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In attempts to cure madness, when the mood strikes to tweak this or that, I refer to this video.

https://youtu.be/BcxyfinyMSU?si=ZFAy8YPF7mhAD8Dk

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tell me more please


this guy is obviously very good, but he’s just never moved the needle in a positive direction for me. pretty mellow in this video, i like 159s….but yeah he’s just not my guy

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It's not about moving a needle?

He doesn't really give a shit about his gear. That's the vibe.

Skates something that works for the majority of what he likes to skate and doesn't worry about what gives him trouble.

yeah you are super correct with that last sentence. i could have saved myself some anguish if i had followed that.

thank you for that explanation.

[Scottboarding]

Alright pals I need some advice/someone to talk me down lol. For a majority of my skate career I used thunders, but always felt like my pop feel was missing. I was able to get a decent bag of flat ground tricks and a few ledge tricks. (fromt/back 50, front tail,front 5-0, bs crooked). I switched to indys and could not get them to feel right. Either too tall or too heavy. They always felt a little unstable to me. I am now on venture 5.8 standard. I can do most of my tricks that I could on thunder with a few missing. I had a bout of madness last night and put 149 mids on my board and hated it. Its like I am expecting a huge change in everything by switching a component of my gear. So I put my ventures back on and am trying to not change anything for a few weeks. For reference I am 5'10, my board is an 8.4 frog with a 14.25 wheelbase. What are your changes in mindset that help you fight the madness? I tried to have a setup that is somewhat "normal" so there are no excuses there. IDK!! please assist.
 
Something else to add: It does not matter which truck I use, I notice that in my footage my back foot comes off the board when I ollie. Sometimes a little bit, sometimes alot. So my friend was telling me to take the rest of the summer to just focus on getting a solid ollie. So that makes me think, do I need a different set-up to learn a more solid ollie? Something lower/easier to get off the ground?

With the back foot lifting off the board I found tightening my trucks helped with that a lot. Technique and practice definitely plays a part in it and you shouldn't ignore those but tightening at least my back truck was a massive help for that.

As far as fighting madness and stopping yourself from changing things I don't think I have any great advice, just gotta practice some self control really. How long have you been on the Ventures all together? You said there are a few tricks you can't do on them that you could with Thunder but you may just need time to adjust or to make some small tweaks to foot position for those tricks. If you're switching gear constantly without giving yourself enough time to get used to it it's going to be hard to determine if something genuinely does or does not work for you. Some gear you can tell right away like your experience with the mids but if you're able to do almost everything on Venture, it could just come down to not giving yourself enough time to adjust.

[mstuntbless]

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Alright pals I need some advice/someone to talk me down lol. For a majority of my skate career I used thunders, but always felt like my pop feel was missing. I was able to get a decent bag of flat ground tricks and a few ledge tricks. (fromt/back 50, front tail,front 5-0, bs crooked). I switched to indys and could not get them to feel right. Either too tall or too heavy. They always felt a little unstable to me. I am now on venture 5.8 standard. I can do most of my tricks that I could on thunder with a few missing. I had a bout of madness last night and put 149 mids on my board and hated it. Its like I am expecting a huge change in everything by switching a component of my gear. So I put my ventures back on and am trying to not change anything for a few weeks. For reference I am 5'10, my board is an 8.4 frog with a 14.25 wheelbase. What are your changes in mindset that help you fight the madness? I tried to have a setup that is somewhat "normal" so there are no excuses there. IDK!! please assist.
 
Something else to add: It does not matter which truck I use, I notice that in my footage my back foot comes off the board when I ollie. Sometimes a little bit, sometimes alot. So my friend was telling me to take the rest of the summer to just focus on getting a solid ollie. So that makes me think, do I need a different set-up to learn a more solid ollie? Something lower/easier to get off the ground?

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With the back foot lifting off the board I found tightening my trucks helped with that a lot. Technique and practice definitely plays a part in it and you shouldn't ignore those but tightening at least my back truck was a massive help for that.
 How long have you been on the Ventures all together? You said there are a few tricks you can't do on them that you could with Thunder but you may just need time to adjust or to make some small tweaks to foot position for those tricks.
 
I have been on ventures since December, I think part of the problem is that the wheelbase on my board has changed every time, and I have had 6 boards since I started on them.

[rocklobster]

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In attempts to cure madness, when the mood strikes to tweak this or that, I refer to this video.

https://youtu.be/BcxyfinyMSU?si=ZFAy8YPF7mhAD8Dk

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This randomly popped up on my suggested earlier today,  the algorithm has worked its magic,  I thought about this thread when I watched it

Listened to his episode on the Mostly Skateboarding podcast - he sounds really chill. Very understated but when he puts out footage you're reminded how good he is.

[rikki]

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In attempts to cure madness, when the mood strikes to tweak this or that, I refer to this video.

https://youtu.be/BcxyfinyMSU?si=ZFAy8YPF7mhAD8Dk

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This randomly popped up on my suggested earlier today,  the algorithm has worked its magic,  I thought about this thread when I watched it

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Listened to his episode on the Mostly Skateboarding podcast - he sounds really chill. Very understated but when he puts out footage you're reminded how good he is.

Cookie is one of my favourite skaters out there. Dude has a really effortless style and flow combined with mind-boggling consistency. Plus he f*cking RIPS too, it's not all about stylish surfy flow. Watch any Worble video for some jaw-dropping gnar from him.

[Paco Supreme]

I own far too many pairs of shoes, but it’s only really three styles in different colour ways.

Trying to whittle down the amount but it still seems stupidly excessive.

I caved and bought 5 of the last pairs of G6 Emerica a I could find.

I’m done now, maybe I should give some pairs to charity…

[garbage_wagon]

Someone please talk me into sticking with a dedicated set up. Kind of a cross post between this thread and the Gear You're Contemplating Buying Thread, but I'm thinking of buying a stack of the same deck from the Thank You Supply sale and sticking with it until they're skated through. Thanks.

[CarcassToss]

If you like the deck you want to buy that's a great strategy if it's not regularly available at an affordable price point from a local shop.

Shops don't make much off margins. As an adult I want to save as much money as possible, but sometimes I prefer paying my local full price. My shapes are always available so I have zero need to stockpile.

[mstuntbless]

Someone please talk me into sticking with a dedicated set up. Kind of a cross post between this thread and the Gear You're Contemplating Buying Thread, but I'm thinking of buying a stack of the same deck from the Thank You Supply sale and sticking with it until they're skated through. Thanks.

I coming out of a spell of madness and I am typing this almost to remind myself that switching gear does not help at all. When you switch, the gear will feel different and that's about it. The adjustment period just isn't worth the minimal gains that you might get. I want to thank the pals here, as well as in the venture thread, for listening to my bs. I am on 8.5/14.5 and am planning to stay on that for a while.

[Paco Supreme]

Someone please talk me into sticking with a dedicated set up. Kind of a cross post between this thread and the Gear You're Contemplating Buying Thread, but I'm thinking of buying a stack of the same deck from the Thank You Supply sale and sticking with it until they're skated through. Thanks.

I found an enjoi shape I really liked, have kept on it for a couple years now. Makes setting up a new board less daunting.

[Plan9Customs]

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Someone please talk me into sticking with a dedicated set up. Kind of a cross post between this thread and the Gear You're Contemplating Buying Thread, but I'm thinking of buying a stack of the same deck from the Thank You Supply sale and sticking with it until they're skated through. Thanks.

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I found an enjoi shape I really liked, have kept on it for a couple years now. Makes setting up a new board less daunting.

Until you’ve burned through all of them.

[Sedition]

...switching gear does not help at all. When you switch, the gear will feel different and that's about it. The adjustment period just isn't worth the minimal gains that you might get.

These are all facts. But it also opens another Madness door: How do I want my set-up to feel right now?

I am on 8.5/14.5 and am planning to stay on that for a while.

I am always on the look-out for a good 8.5/14.5. What are you riding?

[Paco Supreme]

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Someone please talk me into sticking with a dedicated set up. Kind of a cross post between this thread and the Gear You're Contemplating Buying Thread, but I'm thinking of buying a stack of the same deck from the Thank You Supply sale and sticking with it until they're skated through. Thanks.

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I found an enjoi shape I really liked, have kept on it for a couple years now. Makes setting up a new board less daunting.

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Until you’ve burned through all of them.

A stack 20 high and then it’s over to Jacuzzi, because they make the same board

[mstuntbless]

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...switching gear does not help at all. When you switch, the gear will feel different and that's about it. The adjustment period just isn't worth the minimal gains that you might get.

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These are all facts. But it also opens another Madness door: How do I want my set-up to feel right now?

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I am on 8.5/14.5 and am planning to stay on that for a while.

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I am always on the look-out for a good 8.5/14.5. What are you riding?

 
^^i am on a generic blank deck I got from a friend. I have no clue what kind it is and it’s almost a blessing that way. 8.5/14.5 decks I have had in the past that I like are bakers/uma land sleds

[Plan9Customs]

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Someone please talk me into sticking with a dedicated set up. Kind of a cross post between this thread and the Gear You're Contemplating Buying Thread, but I'm thinking of buying a stack of the same deck from the Thank You Supply sale and sticking with it until they're skated through. Thanks.

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I found an enjoi shape I really liked, have kept on it for a couple years now. Makes setting up a new board less daunting.

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Until you’ve burned through all of them.

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A stack 20 high and then it’s over to Jacuzzi, because they make the same board

That’s rad you found the same shape for when the hoard runs dry.

[rocklobster]

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Someone please talk me into sticking with a dedicated set up. Kind of a cross post between this thread and the Gear You're Contemplating Buying Thread, but I'm thinking of buying a stack of the same deck from the Thank You Supply sale and sticking with it until they're skated through. Thanks.

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I found an enjoi shape I really liked, have kept on it for a couple years now. Makes setting up a new board less daunting.

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Until you’ve burned through all of them.

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A stack 20 high and then it’s over to Jacuzzi, because they make the same board

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That’s rad you found the same shape for when the hoard runs dry.

Biggest existential threat to everyone on this thread is when the favorite shape goes out of production or the company shuts down. Then it's back to Tactics and obsessing over dims.

[Plan9Customs]

^^^^THIS^^^^

[BeachChicken]

That's why you choose bigger companies or common shapes. I've sent a pic of a Quasi deck I had years ago to their email and they've been like "Yup, we have that shape currently as this". Or you know if you get a DLX 8.25x14.38 its the same one you had 8 years ago.

[Xen]

That's why you choose bigger companies or common shapes. I've sent a pic of a Quasi deck I had years ago to their email and they've been like "Yup, we have that shape currently as this". Or you know if you get a DLX 8.25x14.38 its the same one you had 8 years ago.

This is the correct [sane/logical] answer.

But this is Slap.

[limubai]

That's why you choose bigger companies or common shapes. I've sent a pic of a Quasi deck I had years ago to their email and they've been like "Yup, we have that shape currently as this". Or you know if you get a DLX 8.25x14.38 its the same one you had 8 years ago.

This is a defense for Powell heads. Good ole George lists the concaves and shapes by number so you always know you are getting the same thing, maple or flight. And you can search by wheelbase. For my bowl setup, K21 concave and 15” wheelbase are perfect. Shape varies, sometimes a 9” pop (shape 246), sometimes a shaped board.

[hiljentaa]

That's why you choose bigger companies or common shapes. I've sent a pic of a Quasi deck I had years ago to their email and they've been like "Yup, we have that shape currently as this". Or you know if you get a DLX 8.25x14.38 its the same one you had 8 years ago.

Smart to find a shape from BBS or PS that lots of brands use and stick with it.

[garbage_wagon]

I see a 5 pack from Skate Samples in my future.

[Mbrimson88]

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That's why you choose bigger companies or common shapes. I've sent a pic of a Quasi deck I had years ago to their email and they've been like "Yup, we have that shape currently as this". Or you know if you get a DLX 8.25x14.38 its the same one you had 8 years ago.

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Smart to find a shape from BBS or PS that lots of brands use and stick with it.

Yes, that was my plan, still is I guess for the most part.

I do like the familiarity of the same boards over and over, but I also like to try new things from time to time as well, for better or worse, so sometimes the curiosity gets a bit much and I obsess over some shapes or just wonder too much what something else might be like.

Bringing it all on myself, so no one else to blame, but it is funny when I get back on my usual 8.38 or 8.5 and they feel different now, more often than not too skinny, as I have been trying the 8.75 and 9.0 sizes a bit recently.

[hiljentaa]

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That's why you choose bigger companies or common shapes. I've sent a pic of a Quasi deck I had years ago to their email and they've been like "Yup, we have that shape currently as this". Or you know if you get a DLX 8.25x14.38 its the same one you had 8 years ago.

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Smart to find a shape from BBS or PS that lots of brands use and stick with it.

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Yes, that was my plan, still is I guess for the most part.

I do like the familiarity of the same boards over and over, but I also like to try new things from time to time as well, for better or worse, so sometimes the curiosity gets a bit much and I obsess over some shapes or just wonder too much what something else might be like.

Bringing it all on myself, so no one else to blame, but it is funny when I get back on my usual 8.38 or 8.5 and they feel different now, more often than not too skinny, as I have been trying the 8.75 and 9.0 sizes a bit recently.

Do you ride the same size trucks across those different board sizes?

This year, I've been adamant about not changing truck size. I can't easily adjust when the axle width changes from one setup to another.

[Mbrimson88]

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That's why you choose bigger companies or common shapes. I've sent a pic of a Quasi deck I had years ago to their email and they've been like "Yup, we have that shape currently as this". Or you know if you get a DLX 8.25x14.38 its the same one you had 8 years ago.

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Smart to find a shape from BBS or PS that lots of brands use and stick with it.

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Yes, that was my plan, still is I guess for the most part.

I do like the familiarity of the same boards over and over, but I also like to try new things from time to time as well, for better or worse, so sometimes the curiosity gets a bit much and I obsess over some shapes or just wonder too much what something else might be like.

Bringing it all on myself, so no one else to blame, but it is funny when I get back on my usual 8.38 or 8.5 and they feel different now, more often than not too skinny, as I have been trying the 8.75 and 9.0 sizes a bit recently.

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Do you ride the same size trucks across those different board sizes?

This year, I've been adamant about not changing truck size. I can't easily adjust when the axle width changes from one setup to another.

The 8.38 and 8.5 boards have 149s, the 8.62, 8.75 and 8.86 boards have 159s and the 9.0 have 169s, although I was thinking of trying 159 with wide wheels which almost fit or might skate better on the 9.0 board I just got.

Only takes a day or so to just feel normal again on my usual boards, so I don't really worry about it, but it is fun to try out other setups and just see what they offer, whether they are better for some things, or make other things harder.


When playing around with different trucks on various boards, a 159 is just too wide for 8.38 or 8.5 and the 149s are not wide enough for 8.62 or 8.75 boards, which just work well when the truck is at board width for me - add or subtract washers on the wider boards to fit as well, eg 169s only one washer on the inside, nothing on the outside so the wheels fit just right on the 9.0 boards, otherwise three washers on the inside of 159s and wider wheels, which also work well.


All the boards are usually set up in much the same way though, very specific about bushings and the turn is about the same, so it is not that difficult to skate them as I usually do, compared to setting up a brand new complete and having to break in bushings or try to get used to new parts, apart from the usual fresh board feel, sticky grip, etc.


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From a madness point of view, I like to have the wheels sitting right on the edge, not sitting inside or outside the line of the deck, so pairing some wheels up with certain width boards on certain trucks with washers to get it just right is key to my being able to skate a board well.  Wheels inside feels too tippy for me, eg 149s on 8.75 boards.

[mstuntbless]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zqMfqw-tleo&t=893s&pp=ygUKYmVuIGRlZ3Jvcw%3D%3D
 
14:28 for when the madness hits. Goodnight pals!

[handsclapanin]

I know for a fact from years of experience that I skate the best on BBS boards and indy trucks. And I have a stockpile of new gear that will take me years to get through. Still, I’ve had $200 worth of product sitting in my cart on that darn thankyousupply sale for the last week. I’m trying not to push the purchase button. But I just might. I’ve never tried Tensors. And the mag lights are supposed to grind anything, right? It’s hard to pass up a $20 board, even if you’ll probably hate it.

[Gleefull508]

I know for a fact from years of experience that I skate the best on BBS boards and indy trucks. And I have a stockpile of new gear that will take me years to get through. Still, I’ve had $200 worth of product sitting in my cart on that darn thankyousupply sale for the last week. I’m trying not to push the purchase button. But I just might. I’ve never tried Tensors. And the mag lights are supposed to grind anything, right? It’s hard to pass up a $20 board, even if you’ll probably hate it.

Currently skating an enjoi I got from that sale and it is quite literally the worst board I have ever skated by a longgg way

[Dwyck]

Everytime I don't buy new gear when I get paid is a win. Truck curiousity is dogging me though. I love my ace classic 55s I skated Indy 149 stds for like ten years straight before them and they almost skate lighter even though theyre way heavier.
Slappys have better clearance (never been an issue for me, maybe on already dead Indy hangars), Lurpivs are tall (There's not actually anything wrong with the risers I run on the aces) Indys have a slightly better pinch (If I really really wanted that I'd go back to my Venture 5.8s they crooked incredibly)

I did just run a Heated Wheeled shaped board with a short nose and big tail for fun and pushed myself on transistion enough that its street failings didn't bug me as much. But I'm on a 9 inch pop now and it's nice to be back

Just sitting at work thinking about trucks

Edit: the classics axles are slipping a bit which is why I initially wanted to move on from them. Maybe I'll just axle a pair of stage 4s and then come back to thinking about it