They are 100% supportive and the cupsole makes the upper more structured. The upper is thinner than a multi-paneled upper but if a slip-on upper like the Owen is ok for you and you just think "I wish I had a thicker sole," then you're golden. It's a significant difference between people who have felt that soles are the only reason you skate anything other than slip-ons, but if you need more ankle support or more when it comes to sidewalls, these might not be the shoe for you.