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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4680 on: November 25, 2020, 03:58:32 PM »
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Why is it a backside 180 nosegrind but a backside 180 switch manual?
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it's kinda weird... my best guess:

bs 180 nosegrind=similar concept to bs bigspin noseslides or boardslides actually more being shove it nose/boardslides to fakie. the skater does a bs 180 with a nosegrind in the middle. trick name is not determined by orientation of the grind in this case, but in order of total body rotation of the ollie/flip trick and the trick done after the catch or after the initial trick has completed 50% progress or more. the grinds name is determined by what it would look like without the rotation in mind, so as if done regs.

this is one example of an alternate naming convention compared to just composite trick names that follow a dogmatic school of trick plus this way trick plus this way out trick, in favor of a more elegant and wholistic approach. it makes sense if you see the bs 180 more as beginning and also end to the trick instead of the two tricks as a linear sequence. the trick begins with a bs 180 and ends with fulfilling the bs 180, with the nosegrind happening in the middle.

my guess on why the sw manual isnt a fakie nosemanny would be that you can only get into a fakie nosemanny coming in fakie from the start. if you 180 into the same manual it's switch since if you popped out it would be a switch trick. with a bs 180 fakie manual it's fakie because if you would need to pop out like a fakie trick.

EDIT: the logic has flaws, like how fit fakie nosegrinds into this? so what are the rules to go fakie (nose-)manual(and grind)?

i would say there's two ways.

you have to approach fakie and either get straight on or 360.

you approach normally and rotate into a position that forces you to disengage from the manual in actual fakie stance, and only traditional fakie counts, meaning the only way to end up in any sort of fakie coming from regs is a fakie manual done on the truck you popped off, too. there just is no fakie nosemanual initiated by a 180 coming from regs.

similarly, when you nollie 180 into a sw manual, why is that not a fakie nose manny? because if you mirrored it and did it from fakie, like starting with a half cab, you end up in a regular manual, not a sw fakie nosemanual(lol). hence when mirrored sw stance it's also a manual, but switch.

This makes sense. So with a backside 180 nosegrind the backside 180 is not completed until you land it. But it seems like the same logic should apply to a manual too, unless you count the two wheels landing in the manual as the backside 180 being completed and the manual as a separate trick. If you did a backside 180 nosegrind, kickflip out, for instance, wouldn't it be a switch kickflip, not a nollie kickflip while grinding backwards? So, to pop out of that, even just an ollie, would be a switch trick, and the same goes for backside 180 switch manual. Or maybe not because there isn't a grind in the middle but the skater is rolling. But that seems like a weird distinction to make because the trick is still not completed until the person either lands the grind or the manual on all four wheels. Anyway, I guess it doesn't matter that much if everyone understands what these names mean. It's just sometimes I think skate trick naming is a little inconsistent or illogical but as long as there are conventions, it's fine.


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Why is it a backside 180 nosegrind but a backside 180 switch manual?
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There's only three manuals

Regs switch and Fakie manny.

Maybe in the future there will be only two, if everyone becomes stanceless and skates symmetrical boards: manual or nose manual. Then if a stanceless skater does a half-cab or nollie 180, it will always be backside or frontside and not backside half-cab/frontside nollie 180 or frontside half-cab/backside nollie 180. This stuff is kind of crazy to think about a lot. It's like how quantum physicists lose their minds from thinking too much about matter and shit.
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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4681 on: November 25, 2020, 10:12:35 PM »
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Why is it a backside 180 nosegrind but a backside 180 switch manual?
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it's kinda weird... my best guess:

bs 180 nosegrind=similar concept to bs bigspin noseslides or boardslides actually more being shove it nose/boardslides to fakie. the skater does a bs 180 with a nosegrind in the middle. trick name is not determined by orientation of the grind in this case, but in order of total body rotation of the ollie/flip trick and the trick done after the catch or after the initial trick has completed 50% progress or more. the grinds name is determined by what it would look like without the rotation in mind, so as if done regs.

this is one example of an alternate naming convention compared to just composite trick names that follow a dogmatic school of trick plus this way trick plus this way out trick, in favor of a more elegant and wholistic approach. it makes sense if you see the bs 180 more as beginning and also end to the trick instead of the two tricks as a linear sequence. the trick begins with a bs 180 and ends with fulfilling the bs 180, with the nosegrind happening in the middle.

my guess on why the sw manual isnt a fakie nosemanny would be that you can only get into a fakie nosemanny coming in fakie from the start. if you 180 into the same manual it's switch since if you popped out it would be a switch trick. with a bs 180 fakie manual it's fakie because if you would need to pop out like a fakie trick.

EDIT: the logic has flaws, like how fit fakie nosegrinds into this? so what are the rules to go fakie (nose-)manual(and grind)?

i would say there's two ways.

you have to approach fakie and either get straight on or 360.

you approach normally and rotate into a position that forces you to disengage from the manual in actual fakie stance, and only traditional fakie counts, meaning the only way to end up in any sort of fakie coming from regs is a fakie manual done on the truck you popped off, too. there just is no fakie nosemanual initiated by a 180 coming from regs.

similarly, when you nollie 180 into a sw manual, why is that not a fakie nose manny? because if you mirrored it and did it from fakie, like starting with a half cab, you end up in a regular manual, not a sw fakie nosemanual(lol). hence when mirrored sw stance it's also a manual, but switch.
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This makes sense. So with a backside 180 nosegrind the backside 180 is not completed until you land it. But it seems like the same logic should apply to a manual too, unless you count the two wheels landing in the manual as the backside 180 being completed and the manual as a separate trick. If you did a backside 180 nosegrind, kickflip out, for instance, wouldn't it be a switch kickflip, not a nollie kickflip while grinding backwards? So, to pop out of that, even just an ollie, would be a switch trick, and the same goes for backside 180 switch manual. Or maybe not because there isn't a grind in the middle but the skater is rolling. But that seems like a weird distinction to make because the trick is still not completed until the person either lands the grind or the manual on all four wheels. Anyway, I guess it doesn't matter that much if everyone understands what these names mean. It's just sometimes I think skate trick naming is a little inconsistent or illogical but as long as there are conventions, it's fine.


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Why is it a backside 180 nosegrind but a backside 180 switch manual?
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There's only three manuals

Regs switch and Fakie manny.
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Maybe in the future there will be only two, if everyone becomes stanceless and skates symmetrical boards: manual or nose manual. Then if a stanceless skater does a half-cab or nollie 180, it will always be backside or frontside and not backside half-cab/frontside nollie 180 or frontside half-cab/backside nollie 180. This stuff is kind of crazy to think about a lot. It's like how quantum physicists lose their minds from thinking too much about matter and shit.

80 Fakie nose grind kinda predates switch too.

I totally f'd up because I'm all fucking fucked up

 1 Manny
2 nose manny
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4 switch Manny.

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4682 on: November 27, 2020, 11:47:22 PM »
It’s so weird to imagine what all those people who are all tatted up are going to look like as senior citizens.

That's a very conservative way of looking at it, and it's something people say a lot about tattoos. So do you plan on keeping yourself as well preserved as possible until you're a senior citizen? No matter what you're gonna age. If you take care of yourself, maybe you'll age a little better than those who lead rougher lives. But your skin is still gonna get all wrinkly, saggy and spotted anyway. What difference will tattoos make? Will old tatted people somehow have worse looking old person skin? I don't think it matters that much, and it's never made me question getting a tattoo I wanted.
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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4683 on: November 28, 2020, 12:48:55 AM »
tattoos on old folks are awesome. of course they will look shitty. that's not the point. the point is "golly, this old gentlemen rocks tattoos, he must have been a real rebel rouser, oh boy, i better be polite to this old tattooed gentleman or he's probably pullin his switchblade on me."

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4684 on: November 28, 2020, 01:53:31 PM »
Was wondering if anyone else does this. Often times when I see someone do a trick in a video where the address of the building is in the background, I google it and do the streetview to see what it looks like from there or if it's still around.


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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4685 on: November 28, 2020, 02:02:29 PM »
Why is it a backside 180 nosegrind but a backside 180 switch manual?

Is it? I was not aware that the name had changed. I always knew them as 180 nose manuals, and I think that's how mags captioned them.
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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4686 on: November 29, 2020, 12:34:58 AM »
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It’s so weird to imagine what all those people who are all tatted up are going to look like as senior citizens.
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That's a very conservative way of looking at it, and it's something people say a lot about tattoos. So do you plan on keeping yourself as well preserved as possible until you're a senior citizen? No matter what you're gonna age. If you take care of yourself, maybe you'll age a little better than those who lead rougher lives. But your skin is still gonna get all wrinkly, saggy and spotted anyway. What difference will tattoos make? Will old tatted people somehow have worse looking old person skin? I don't think it matters that much, and it's never made me question getting a tattoo I wanted.

Don’t let me stop you from enjoying tattoos on the elderly.  Call me old-fashioned, but I’m just saying that I’d be taken aback if I saw some 87 year old man with this scribbled all over his throat:


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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4687 on: December 01, 2020, 12:51:49 PM »
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It’s so weird to imagine what all those people who are all tatted up are going to look like as senior citizens.
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That's a very conservative way of looking at it, and it's something people say a lot about tattoos. So do you plan on keeping yourself as well preserved as possible until you're a senior citizen? No matter what you're gonna age. If you take care of yourself, maybe you'll age a little better than those who lead rougher lives. But your skin is still gonna get all wrinkly, saggy and spotted anyway. What difference will tattoos make? Will old tatted people somehow have worse looking old person skin? I don't think it matters that much, and it's never made me question getting a tattoo I wanted.
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Don’t let me stop you from enjoying tattoos on the elderly.  Call me old-fashioned, but I’m just saying that I’d be taken aback if I saw some 87 year old man with this scribbled all over his throat:


It’s my problem to overcome, not theirs.

I can see what you mean when it's someone who's fully covered in tattoos. That might look a little eerie once their skin really starts to age. I was thinking more of people with a few tattoos.

One thing I pondered today is whether you can buy just the plastic DVD holder that comes in cardboard, book style (DigiPak) DVD jewel cases. I ordered a used DVD but that part is missing from the jewel case, so the DVD is just freestanding. I guess I could rip one out of some other DVD that I don't care for, but it would be better if I could just buy that part and glue it in.

Oh, never mind. Looks like you can buy those things. They're called inserts/trays.
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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4688 on: December 01, 2020, 04:07:17 PM »
Does anyone know where that long set to hill bomb from the deathwish video is ? Gotta pin? I wanna go there

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4689 on: December 01, 2020, 10:07:45 PM »
wonder what it’s gonna be like in 25 yrs, 50 yrs and 100 yrs from now .. it’s impossible to know . i hope it’s good
What kind of mikey taylor logic is this?

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4690 on: December 02, 2020, 12:27:15 AM »
How many car horns are honked daily around the world?

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4691 on: December 02, 2020, 04:56:50 AM »
5 dawg

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4692 on: December 02, 2020, 05:53:19 AM »
What music/bands from this era will be considered, "Classic" when we're like 80?  Like the way older people talk about the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, etc.  Will there be classic hip-hop, like 80 year old people sitting around saying things like, "I remember when there was real music like Young Jeezy and 3-6 Mafia."

So far I can see Nirvana, Metallica, RHCP, Pearl Jam, Public Enemy, Outkast, Jay-Z, Nas, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Some country guys, a bunch of others.  I'm not a fan of all these artists, but they have that mass appeal.

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4693 on: December 02, 2020, 07:13:35 PM »
Was wondering if anyone else does this. Often times when I see someone do a trick in a video where the address of the building is in the background, I google it and do the streetview to see what it looks like from there or if it's still around.

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4694 on: December 02, 2020, 09:10:25 PM »
Are they are any pet owners who are anti-vax? Do they think their animals will get autism if given rabies shots? I've heard of someone who made their cat vegan, which is kinda fucked up, so there's probably at least one anti-vax pet owner.
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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4695 on: December 03, 2020, 05:36:54 PM »
I can tell who skates by watching them play skater xl. I don't even got to look at the screen because it's so obvious.

Skaters start lifting their lead foot off the ground when they approach the obstacle instead of the old nes focusing controller rip to the sides.


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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4696 on: December 09, 2020, 05:33:17 AM »
I wonder if Data from Star Trek next generation could pick up skateboarding quickly.

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« Reply #4697 on: December 09, 2020, 11:41:56 AM »
I wonder if Data from Star Trek next generation could pick up skateboarding quickly.

I feel it would be like really soulless tho. He would hit a wall with the emotional content. Like my 20 year battle for switch Tre. Data would never get the point of style.
He would not flow like water or move like fire on a nice slow accelerant across a floor.
He wouldn't understand my connection with skatespots.
Data would not understand the aural pleasure of diamond plated metal.
The ping of a hand rail.
The grind tone of a 101a wheel on salt pitted black Top.

He would never leave the park. Soul less.

I wonder what Data would wear. I would paint him into a juggalo hype beast and misappropriate redesign the culture and tax the fuck out of data star trek dunks for non skaters.



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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4698 on: December 09, 2020, 11:22:12 PM »
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Is there a special place in hell for people who park in front of waxed curbs?
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I’m that kinda dick that will skate my time entirely around the car till they move it.

i usually avoid it becuase im not that good at curbs and having a 70,000 detailed mercedes next to me certainly does not help.  its a red curb too but i dont wanna argue with a forty year old neighbor whos already stingy

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4699 on: December 09, 2020, 11:24:39 PM »
if the rest of the world knew how easy it was to remove security rivets, would there be any street signs left?

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4700 on: December 10, 2020, 07:44:09 AM »
I have a 2.5 year old daughter and I can't imagine what kind of technology she's going to have access to when she's in high school/college. 

I remember when my parents got a dvd player and it was high tech.  Renting dvds from Blockbuster.  We had dial-up internet (AOL all day) and if someone was on the computer, you couldn't use the phone.  Cell phones were crazy expensive.  I had one, but it was only for, "Emergencies."  In college, I lived in a nine bedroom house with one phone line.  Laptops were for true ballers and like the size of a VCR.  When I was a senior in college I started dating a freshman who lived in the dorms and the high speed internet blew my mind.

Now we basically have a computer/camera in our pocket at all times, electric cars, so many social media platforms, etc.  I can't imagine what it is going to be like for her in 15-16 years.  I'm excited and terrified at the same time. 

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4701 on: December 10, 2020, 07:49:42 AM »
maybe im just being an idiot but i cant for the life of me find a decent pair of cargos/track pants that are nylon/have that swooshy material and also have the drawstring toggle on the bottoms. tried a shit ton of searches involving toggles, hems, elasticated cuffs, cinch bottoms etc and the only close ones were all weird as fuck slim pairs from random "high end" fashion brands

tf do i search for, anyone got brand recs that fit what im looking for?

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4702 on: December 10, 2020, 08:17:54 AM »
When I shit before I shower, how well should i wipe?

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4703 on: December 11, 2020, 07:56:52 PM »
what do people say now instead of "fuccboi"?
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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4704 on: December 14, 2020, 01:59:35 PM »
It sucks how the right wing ruined conspiracy theories for the rest of us more sensible tinfoil hatters.
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« Reply #4705 on: December 14, 2020, 09:21:14 PM »
It sucks how the right wing ruined conspiracy theories for the rest of us more sensible tinfoil hatters.

this.  had to explain multiple times that I do not believe coronavirus is a hoax and I strongly disagree with almost everything our president stands for

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4706 on: December 15, 2020, 04:47:54 AM »
what do people say now instead of "fuccboi"?

I've been hearing "Stuckboi" a lot recently.

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4707 on: December 15, 2020, 02:19:23 PM »
Does anyone make fisheye or 360 view glasses? Like basically it would be a vr set with with cameras all around that would let you see everything that's going on around you. Could that even work for the brain? Feel like it could work for like racing or some ninja combat

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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4708 on: December 15, 2020, 08:51:13 PM »
I picked up some empty bingo dabbers, 8oz Nalgene squeeze bottles, and a quart of automotive grade clear coat.

I'm hoping to fashion some sort of device where I can salba sauce some local spots that are in high public view. The rattle and spray of the standard clear coat can would be a hard feat to pull off. I've used the same bingo dabbers with thinner liquids for graffiti reasons, yet this one will be an experiment. I'll report back with details if it works.


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For clarification, I'm taking the valve out of the bingo dabber. The nalgene 8oz will be in combo with a tiny paint brush.
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Re: Things You Pondered Today
« Reply #4709 on: December 15, 2020, 08:56:02 PM »
why dont she love me