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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2970 on: November 04, 2020, 08:06:37 AM »

I bought these 101 F4 Classics not too long ago, but sadly the left one has morphed into a sad shell of its former self. The rest of the wheels look like the one on the right.

I really liked the classics, so it's a bummer. The set of 99 Conical Fulls I had before didn't shapeshift like this one. I've since put the conicals back on my current setup since I saved them, and have taken all the classics off.

Can you take another pic of all four lined up?

I would almost guarantee from biggest to smallest, they would be front heel, front toe (maybe coned), back heel and then back toe (also coned) and I would think that from the wear, you ride the graphic in?

I could be wrong, but I have seen way too many sets like this over the years, all from not rotating wheels and lots of solid skating.  I even have a few sets I have kept, because they have been unreadable with the front heel almost untouched same size as new and the back down to bearing covers.  Front toe will cone the most if you carve into things, or both toe side wheels will cone more so than heel side which wear down flat or even reverse coned.

Rotating wheels makes them wear more evenly and last a lot longer, usually swap the diagonals, eg front toe for back heel keeping them the same way facing out, but if you do notice significant wear on one wheel, swap it with the biggest of the set so at least those two get even wear.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2971 on: November 04, 2020, 08:30:21 AM »
regarding tread and thread- thread screws things together, tread is a
pattern usually on tires.

in this case id say its is whats called "chatter" sometimes in machining, a high feedrate(rate of speed) and a light cut would result in that little swirl around the outside

someones posted the georgia skatewheel maker ig before, hes got a good video detailing such

not like that swirl, tread, thread or whatever you desire to name it would have any bearing on your performance, its probably around the ten thousandths of an inch mark.

shit they wear off in a day if youre actually skating them

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2972 on: November 04, 2020, 09:43:07 AM »
I was just tripping last night how I have one wheel that is clearly smaller than the rest but I just rotated them and when rolling it doesn't lift off the ground or anything so fuck it.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2973 on: November 04, 2020, 09:51:45 AM »
regarding tread and thread- thread screws things together, tread is a
pattern usually on tires.

in this case id say its is whats called "chatter" sometimes in machining, a high feedrate(rate of speed) and a light cut would result in that little swirl around the outside

someones posted the georgia skatewheel maker ig before, hes got a good video detailing such

not like that swirl, tread, thread or whatever you desire to name it would have any bearing on your performance, its probably around the ten thousandths of an inch mark.

shit they wear off in a day if youre actually skating them

So happy all the Formula Four wheels (and Bones SPF for that matter) are smooth finished, so they are good right from the first go on any surface.

I used to be amused by the noise, the zzziiinnnggg of the original formula and all the other brand wheels with the lines when you would slide on smooth surfaces, but until they were worn in, they would be deadly on things like wooden ramps (which we had in the shop) and flatspot easily in the first session if you didn't take them out the back and do a few good carves and slides on the raw concrete.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2975 on: November 04, 2020, 06:09:17 PM »
97s available at SW https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_Formula_4_Classics_97a_Wheels/descpage-SFC97WH.html

...and that is how the Skate Warehouse Spitfire wheel riot in 2020 started folks!

I wonder how many they got and how fast they will sell out, or how many other shops just got them in but people don't know about it.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2976 on: November 04, 2020, 06:11:19 PM »
Anybody got the F4 old school Classic shape yet?
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2977 on: November 04, 2020, 06:45:33 PM »

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2978 on: November 05, 2020, 06:31:05 AM »
i dont even have any intention of skating them immediately, but i just grabbed some 97duros in 54mm.  i'm a wheel hoarder  :-\

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2979 on: November 05, 2020, 06:59:44 AM »
i dont even have any intention of skating them immediately, but i just grabbed some 97duros in 54mm.  i'm a wheel hoarder  :-\

Just one set?  You can't wheely be that much of a hoarder then.

I would be curious to hear what people think of them though.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2980 on: November 05, 2020, 10:19:54 AM »

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2981 on: November 05, 2020, 01:57:27 PM »
More shops have them now, including:




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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2982 on: November 05, 2020, 02:07:54 PM »
I’m waiting out on 97a for Conical Full or OG Classics. Eager to hear how they compare to Slimeball 97a or F4 99a.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2983 on: November 05, 2020, 02:11:51 PM »
Curious how the classic shape wears down with that 97a compared to F4 though. That 56mm probably nice once worn in a few mms.


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https://geometricskateshop.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/spitfire-formula-4-56mm-97-duro

https://geometricskateshop.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/spitfire-formula-4-54mm-97-duro

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2984 on: November 06, 2020, 01:54:33 AM »
I seem to recall people asking about the shape of the OG classics, but this post from DLXSF has some really good close up pics of the side profile.  About five and six pics in.



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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2985 on: November 06, 2020, 12:24:48 PM »
Just got them in, hopefully will get a chance to skate them later today


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2986 on: November 06, 2020, 12:27:37 PM »
Just got them in, hopefully will get a chance to skate them later today


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that was quick! Excited to see it set up and hear your thoughts

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2987 on: November 06, 2020, 12:37:53 PM »
Mine are on the delivery truck right now, I'll report back later today after I skate them.  ;D

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2988 on: November 06, 2020, 02:59:06 PM »
Threw them on a set of Indy mids I just picked up from my local.

For reference I was riding 52mm 99 tablets before this for months so some of what I’m feeling might have to do with wheel shape and size. Overall I like how they feel a lot. Really smooth, seems like it will take a bit to get used to sliding them. I’ll probably have a better idea in a few days but so far so good.



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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2989 on: November 06, 2020, 03:01:42 PM »
Alright boys, I just set them up and took a couple of hill runs, and let me tell you... THESE ARE FUCKING FIRE.

On rough asphalt they retain speed and they grip like crazy. They even feel stable going over chunky asphalt on the street. I was able to pump for speed downhill pretty hard without sliding out. Usually with the 99a F4's it feels too icy on rough asphalt and I break into a slide if I pump too hard. The 97s have a much more controlled slide compared to the 99s, and it feels fantastic being able to hold a powerslide on the 97s.

On smooth concrete they still grip pretty nice and gives out a low pitched, classic sounding wheel bark when sliding. Though the tradeoff with this is that you lose maybe like 10% of speed compared to the 99a F4's, but it's nowhere near as drastic as the speed reduction of nonF4 99a spitfire OG classics. It still feels like an F4.

I'm pretty sure these are going to be my new favorite wheel, I'm a little heavy footed and found 99A F4s to be too icy, but these 97s are perfect. This is only skating them for 20 minutes but they feel great out of the box.

Go buy some now.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2990 on: November 06, 2020, 03:13:17 PM »
Alright boys, I just set them up and took a couple of hill runs, and let me tell you... THESE ARE FUCKING FIRE.

On rough asphalt they retain speed and they grip like crazy. They even feel stable going over chunky asphalt on the street. I was able to pump for speed downhill pretty hard without sliding out. Usually with the 99a F4's it feels too icy on rough asphalt and I break into a slide if I pump too hard. The 97s have a much more controlled slide compared to the 99s, and it feels fantastic being able to hold a powerslide on the 97s.

On smooth concrete they still grip pretty nice and gives out a low pitched, classic sounding wheel bark when sliding. Though the tradeoff with this is that you lose maybe like 10% of speed compared to the 99a F4's, but it's nowhere near as drastic as the speed reduction of nonF4 99a spitfire OG classics. It still feels like an F4.

I'm pretty sure these are going to be my new favorite wheel, I'm a little heavy footed and found 99A F4s to be too icy, but these 97s are perfect. This is only skating them for 20 minutes but they feel great out of the box.

Go buy some now.

Definitely agree on the speed, also I’m not sure if it’s just in my head but they feel really carvey when turning. There’s a curb spot I like skating that has awful concrete, really stoked to try them out there.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2991 on: November 06, 2020, 03:18:32 PM »

Definitely agree on the speed, also I’m not sure if it’s just in my head but they feel really carvey when turning. There’s a curb spot I like skating that has awful concrete, really stoked to try them out there.

Yeah totally. It's like they almost feel like a cruiser wheel in that regard, but are obviously still a hard wheel.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2992 on: November 06, 2020, 04:13:18 PM »
Need those so badly
Sir, I'm going to politely, but firmly, ask you and your common sense to leave this establishment.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2993 on: November 06, 2020, 04:33:51 PM »
Alright boys, I just set them up and took a couple of hill runs, and let me tell you... THESE ARE FUCKING FIRE.

On rough asphalt they retain speed and they grip like crazy. They even feel stable going over chunky asphalt on the street. I was able to pump for speed downhill pretty hard without sliding out. Usually with the 99a F4's it feels too icy on rough asphalt and I break into a slide if I pump too hard. The 97s have a much more controlled slide compared to the 99s, and it feels fantastic being able to hold a powerslide on the 97s.

On smooth concrete they still grip pretty nice and gives out a low pitched, classic sounding wheel bark when sliding. Though the tradeoff with this is that you lose maybe like 10% of speed compared to the 99a F4's, but it's nowhere near as drastic as the speed reduction of nonF4 99a spitfire OG classics. It still feels like an F4.

I'm pretty sure these are going to be my new favorite wheel, I'm a little heavy footed and found 99A F4s to be too icy, but these 97s are perfect. This is only skating them for 20 minutes but they feel great out of the box.

Go buy some now.

Thanks for the prompt review! You do any nose, tail, blunt or lip slides on them yet? Just curious how sticky they are when you ollie into slide tricks?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2994 on: November 06, 2020, 04:53:21 PM »


Thanks for the prompt review! You do any nose, tail, blunt or lip slides on them yet? Just curious how sticky they are when you ollie into slide tricks?

Nah not yet I didn’t have time today, but I’ll be going to the park tomorrow morning so I’ll report back again.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2995 on: November 06, 2020, 04:55:22 PM »
so the 97a's are just 54 and 56mm?
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2996 on: November 06, 2020, 05:29:15 PM »
Yes to start, heard there was a conical full in 54 coming too.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2997 on: November 06, 2020, 05:39:03 PM »
Yes to start, heard there was a conical full in 54 coming too.

Holding out for the OG Classics in f497...should the new hotness

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2998 on: November 07, 2020, 11:24:01 AM »

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2999 on: November 07, 2020, 01:58:03 PM »
so the 97a's are just 54 and 56mm?
Appears to be that way