Spitfire formula four

[Firebert]

Why is there a can of WD-40?! Keep that away from your bearings.

[Mbrimson88]

Why is there a can of WD-40?! Keep that away from your bearings.

As much as Bones bearings info sheets specifically say "Do not use WD40" it is an integral part of bearing cleaning and maintenance.

It is how I have kept my own Bones swiss and every other brand of bearings in between running very nicely for a long long time, including completely seized up bearings that people have been ready to throw out, but the main thing to remember is it is not the only thing to use, eg use WD40 to get the mess out of the bearings, then when clean and dry use bearing lube / machine oil to keep them rolling.

It also helps with oh so many other things in the shop too.  You might be surprised.

[jimgrude]

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Why is there a can of WD-40?! Keep that away from your bearings.

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As much as Bones bearings info sheets specifically say "Do not use WD40" it is an integral part of bearing cleaning and maintenance.

It is how I have kept my own Bones swiss and every other brand of bearings in between running very nicely for a long long time, including completely seized up bearings that people have been ready to throw out, but the main thing to remember is it is not the only thing to use, eg use WD40 to get the mess out of the bearings, then when clean and dry use bearing lube / machine oil to keep them rolling.

It also helps with oh so many other things in the shop too.  You might be surprised.

Exactly. The mistake people make is that they use WD-40 as a lubricant. It's a degreaser, so you use it to remove the dirty oil, then get your bearings completely spotless before adding fresh bearing oil.

[144p]

But it does erode and wear away the plastic crowns that most bearing manufacturers use, that’s why they recommend a citrus cleaner instead.
Not immediately but it does do damage. That’s why no bearing brands suggest using it.

[Cellular]

But it does erode and wear away the plastic crowns that most bearing manufacturers use, that’s why they recommend a citrus cleaner instead.
Not immediately but it does do damage. That’s why no bearing brands suggest using it.

any brand reccomendations?

[quesly]

But it does erode and wear away the plastic crowns that most bearing manufacturers use, that’s why they recommend a citrus cleaner instead.
Not immediately but it does do damage. That’s why no bearing brands suggest using it.

according to bones' website(https://bonesbearings.com/support/cleaner/) citrus cleaners can leave residue so you need to be careful, what I've always heard is acetone or >90% alcohol.

[FrozenIndustries]

Walked into the shop today 100% convinced I was going to buy some 55mm F4 OG classics and ended up leaving with 54mm F4 97s. I prefer a square-edged wheel but the curiosity was just too much for me to handle.

[munchbox]

still holding out strong for the 52mm F4 OG classics in 101a, whenever that is.

[Mbrimson88]

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But it does erode and wear away the plastic crowns that most bearing manufacturers use, that’s why they recommend a citrus cleaner instead.
Not immediately but it does do damage. That’s why no bearing brands suggest using it.

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according to bones' website(https://bonesbearings.com/support/cleaner/) citrus cleaners can leave residue so you need to be careful, what I've always heard is acetone or >90% alcohol.

any brand reccomendations?

I guess it comes down to how user friendly you need to make it, as alcohol, solvents and chemicals don't really mix in some situations, which is why WD40 is a very easy and simple fix in a small closed in location, or when kids are around.

Bones swiss and other bearings I have are still going 10+ years and no issues with crowns wearing, so make of it what you will, but it is not like they get sprayed much, it is more just a very simple and quick solution to rusted / seized or otherwise not clean free spinning bearings.

Given this is the Spitfire Formula Four thread, not a bearing thread, anything more on this should be here, I would think:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=99391.0

[Hanna Schygulla]

Does anybody know of anywhere, or anyone, who has F4 99a Conical Fulls in 58mm? If not, do any of you shop/industry dudes have any insight as to when they're supposed to be stocked again? For what it's worth, I would also go 60mm if anyone's got those, in the previously stated specs. Thanks in advance.

[Mbrimson88]

Does anybody know of anywhere, or anyone, who has F4 99a Conical Fulls in 58mm? If not, do any of you shop/industry dudes have any insight as to when they're supposed to be stocked again? For what it's worth, I would also go 60mm if anyone's got those, in the previously stated specs. Thanks in advance.

A lot of people have been asking about them, but I think the best way is to email DLX directly and see, or from their website, that top right HIT US UP box is where it is at.

https://www.dlxsf.com/

There have been conical full 56mm in small quantities which are the closest / next best thing, but I know it is not quite what you are after.

I would be curious to hear the answer too.

[arrbee]

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Does anybody know of anywhere, or anyone, who has F4 99a Conical Fulls in 58mm? If not, do any of you shop/industry dudes have any insight as to when they're supposed to be stocked again? For what it's worth, I would also go 60mm if anyone's got those, in the previously stated specs. Thanks in advance.

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A lot of people have been asking about them, but I think the best way is to email DLX directly and see, or from their website, that top right HIT US UP box is where it is at.

https://www.dlxsf.com/

There have been conical full 56mm in small quantities which are the closest / next best thing, but I know it is not quite what you are after.

I would be curious to hear the answer too.

58mm available as of 8:27am EST on 11/28, I'll DM it to you too just in case you have notifications on

https://geometricskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-conical-full-52mm-53mm-56mm-99a?variant=32847210971190

[RichardBarkley]

Anyone know of anywhere in Europe that has 97as?

[peterpenis]

Anyone know of anywhere in Europe that has 97as?

My local had some, so u might get lucky at your local. If not skatedeluxe has them in 56 and 54 mm:
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/spitfire-formula-four-classics-wheels-white-blue-56mm-97a-4-pack_p140382

The prices for f4 in europe are fucked though. 60 bucks for wheels... Unfortunately I don't know if i can ever go back from f4

[Hanna Schygulla]

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Does anybody know of anywhere, or anyone, who has F4 99a Conical Fulls in 58mm? If not, do any of you shop/industry dudes have any insight as to when they're supposed to be stocked again? For what it's worth, I would also go 60mm if anyone's got those, in the previously stated specs. Thanks in advance.

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A lot of people have been asking about them, but I think the best way is to email DLX directly and see, or from their website, that top right HIT US UP box is where it is at.

https://www.dlxsf.com/

There have been conical full 56mm in small quantities which are the closest / next best thing, but I know it is not quite what you are after.

I would be curious to hear the answer too.

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58mm available as of 8:27am EST on 11/28, I'll DM it to you too just in case you have notifications on

https://geometricskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-conical-full-52mm-53mm-56mm-99a?variant=32847210971190

Hey man, thanks very much for making that effort for me –– I did buy them, and now it shows that they're sold out; let's hope that the shop as a whole and/or their online inventory was legitimate. Thanks again...it's little things like this that can actually make the idea of a "skate community" a tangible thing.

[RichardBarkley]

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Anyone know of anywhere in Europe that has 97as?

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My local had some, so u might get lucky at your local. If not skatedeluxe has them in 56 and 54 mm:
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/spitfire-formula-four-classics-wheels-white-blue-56mm-97a-4-pack_p140382

The prices for f4 in europe are fucked though. 60 bucks for wheels... Unfortunately I don't know if i can ever go back from f4

Amazing thanks man

[arrbee]

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Does anybody know of anywhere, or anyone, who has F4 99a Conical Fulls in 58mm? If not, do any of you shop/industry dudes have any insight as to when they're supposed to be stocked again? For what it's worth, I would also go 60mm if anyone's got those, in the previously stated specs. Thanks in advance.

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A lot of people have been asking about them, but I think the best way is to email DLX directly and see, or from their website, that top right HIT US UP box is where it is at.

https://www.dlxsf.com/

There have been conical full 56mm in small quantities which are the closest / next best thing, but I know it is not quite what you are after.

I would be curious to hear the answer too.

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58mm available as of 8:27am EST on 11/28, I'll DM it to you too just in case you have notifications on

https://geometricskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-conical-full-52mm-53mm-56mm-99a?variant=32847210971190

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Hey man, thanks very much for making that effort for me –– I did buy them, and now it shows that they're sold out; let's hope that the shop as a whole and/or their online inventory was legitimate. Thanks again...it's little things like this that can actually make the idea of a "skate community" a tangible thing.

My secret is parade world. If you find what you’re looking for add it to your cart. In the cart it tells you which shop is fulfilling the order. From my experiences the shops are legit and I’ve never had anything fall through. Hope it works out for you.

[radcunt]

Walked into the shop today 100% convinced I was going to buy some 55mm F4 OG classics and ended up leaving with 54mm F4 97s. I prefer a square-edged wheel but the curiosity was just too much for me to handle.

Yo let us know how they go bro

[ballintoohard]

the OG Classic and Conical Full are so close what is the point of both?

[Mbrimson88]

the OG Classic and Conical Full are so close what is the point of both?

It does seem a bit redundant to have so many options of wheels, some of which are very similar, but DLX have always been quick to listen and act on some things, so when the interest is more in the wider riding surface squared off wheel, they have brought back the one that worked from the get go, hence the name OG Classic, but having such a big following, they were not about to drop the Conical Full shape from the range either.

Conical Full shape is still wider and more angled on the edge than the OG Classic, which is thinner and very squared off.

That is about the quickest explanation for it.

The difference is much more noticeable when they are sitting side by side too.

I was surprised they are that thin when I got them in the shop and compared them to all the others, but people I know who did buy them liked them a lot.

[Kevve]

Thinking about switching from conical fulls to something slimmer next set as I ride more park now. My wheels are at their widest point right now and grips way to much on concrete.

Cant find radial slims which seems like a good in between shape, only classics and fulls avalible.

How are the classics for park skating? And how are they riding on decent asphalt?

[Mbrimson88]

Thinking about switching from conical fulls to something slimmer next set as I ride more park now. My wheels are at their widest point right now and grips way to much on concrete.

Cant find radial slims which seems like a good in between shape, only classics and fulls avalible.

How are the classics for park skating? And how are they riding on decent asphalt?

Classics have a very minimal contact patch when new, then widen out as they get worn down. 

To me they still ride just as well on anything, but depending on how fast you are going, or how rough the surface is, you might agree or disagree.

Also the 99 vs 101 debate is also valid - depending on what you prefer in hardness too.

Any new wheel is usually going to feel better than any old worn down wheel though.


If they are still a reasonable size, but just too wide for your liking, I have used an angle grinder to take the sides down to make a thinner wheel in the past, which worked well, but if you are not sure what you are doing, it could be a bad move.

[Kevve]

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Thinking about switching from conical fulls to something slimmer next set as I ride more park now. My wheels are at their widest point right now and grips way to much on concrete.

Cant find radial slims which seems like a good in between shape, only classics and fulls avalible.

How are the classics for park skating? And how are they riding on decent asphalt?

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Classics have a very minimal contact patch when new, then widen out as they get worn down. 

To me they still ride just as well on anything, but depending on how fast you are going, or how rough the surface is, you might agree or disagree.

Also the 99 vs 101 debate is also valid - depending on what you prefer in hardness too.

Any new wheel is usually going to feel better than any old worn down wheel though.


If they are still a reasonable size, but just too wide for your liking, I have used an angle grinder to take the sides down to make a thinner wheel in the past, which worked well, but if you are not sure what you are doing, it could be a bad move.

That's impressive, have to try that some day if i ever find myself with a angle grinder.

Thanks for the input, I'll get a pair in the future when my conicals are done.

99a is perfect to me, I dont see a reason to go 101.

I've found 53mm & 55mm classics in stock, anyone prefer one over the other when paired with 144 trucks? Have 3 spacers on the inside so maybe theyre more like 149ish.

[Wizard0f0dds]

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Thinking about switching from conical fulls to something slimmer next set as I ride more park now. My wheels are at their widest point right now and grips way to much on concrete.

Cant find radial slims which seems like a good in between shape, only classics and fulls avalible.

How are the classics for park skating? And how are they riding on decent asphalt?

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Classics have a very minimal contact patch when new, then widen out as they get worn down. 

To me they still ride just as well on anything, but depending on how fast you are going, or how rough the surface is, you might agree or disagree.

Also the 99 vs 101 debate is also valid - depending on what you prefer in hardness too.

Any new wheel is usually going to feel better than any old worn down wheel though.


If they are still a reasonable size, but just too wide for your liking, I have used an angle grinder to take the sides down to make a thinner wheel in the past, which worked well, but if you are not sure what you are doing, it could be a bad move.

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That's impressive, have to try that some day if i ever find myself with a angle grinder.

Thanks for the input, I'll get a pair in the future when my conicals are done.

99a is perfect to me, I dont see a reason to go 101.

I've found 53mm & 55mm classics in stock, anyone prefer one over the other when paired with 144 trucks? Have 3 spacers on the inside so maybe theyre more like 149ish.

I would personally go with 55 myself, but 53 would also work. Currently on 54 classics, and before that I was on 56 conical full, so 55 would be right in the middle.

[l1ll1ll1]

Thinking about switching from conical fulls to something slimmer next set as I ride more park now. My wheels are at their widest point right now and grips way to much on concrete.

Cant find radial slims which seems like a good in between shape, only classics and fulls avalible.

How are the classics for park skating? And how are they riding on decent asphalt?

For the concrete park: 52 conicals 101 (just conicals, not fulls) are great for me.

[Mbrimson88]

I've found 53mm & 55mm classics in stock, anyone prefer one over the other when paired with 144 trucks? Have 3 spacers on the inside so maybe theyre more like 149ish.

A little bigger will last longer, but might feel a bit funny or too big when you first get them, but they are also a bit wider, which depending on your preference, will also mean they end up more like conical full when they wear down some too.

[Mbrimson88]

This delivery looks to have Formula Four OG Classics in 58 and 60 that I can see, so there are probably more coming for those who like the bigger wheels.

[YungJugg]

Would anyone be interested in trading any used 99a for my 101a Tablets? Still got lots of life left (~52mm). Probably spent a month or so on em before I realized I identify as 99a.

[Mbrimson88]

Anyone else had trouble finding Chargers lately? My go-to's on my big boy for cruising are the 80HD 54mm and I've been striking out on them over the past month or two

I am sure I saw some recently in a shop post, but I do follow a lot of shops so not sure I can recall where it was.

Also copied to the Spitfire Formula Four thread, just in case someone had seen some and can also post where.

Parade World has heaps, so just add to cart and then see where else they have them in stock.

https://www.paradeworld.com/search/?query=spitfire%20chargers

In Canada, Tiki Room has heaps of chargers, so check with your local as they might have some now too.

https://tikiroomskateboards.com/collections/spitfire

[Mbrimson88]

thanks for posting that, want 52's BAAAAAAD

Formula Four OG Classic green swirl 52mm are in...