Spitfire formula four

[IpathCats]

Options are great. Can't believe SLAP gear nerds have issues with all the shapes....

Yea, idk how anyone could possibly be upset about this lol.

[Frank and Fred]

Does anyone know if the Flatspots eventually fix themselves? I bought the wheels like 3 or 4 months ago and hadn't really noticed because Ive been skating street a bunch but the other day I went to Lot 11 (smooth street park) and it sounds like Im riding a motortcycle yet the flatspots are barely noticeable. Never had this issue and Ive been skating F4s for years and I powerslide a bunch.

Short answer, yes.

But it depends how bad the flat spot is. I have found I can get rid of flatspots in F4s far easier than other wheels. But really the bigger the flat spot (typically the louder it is) the longer it will take to 'iron' out. Bomb some hills. Skate a lot.

[IpathCats]

Does anyone know if the Flatspots eventually fix themselves? I bought the wheels like 3 or 4 months ago and hadn't really noticed because Ive been skating street a bunch but the other day I went to Lot 11 (smooth street park) and it sounds like Im riding a motortcycle yet the flatspots are barely noticeable. Never had this issue and Ive been skating F4s for years and I powerslide a bunch.

If it's not super bad it should work itself out eventually. The harder the wheel is the longer it will take.

[Xen]

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spitfire really has too many damn shapes

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agreed.

pals, what would you cut? what's the perfect amount of options? theres 10 f4 models afaik:

I'm all for options, but at some point, you are hitting diminishing returns on shapes.

classics
[classic slims, oh how I miss you]
classic full
og classics

radials
radial slim
radial full*

conical
conical full

tablets
lock ins

What I'd add:

AWOL shape (it's like an STF V5)
Conical slim - to replace tablets

[sketchyrider]

i found standard conicals to be pretty darn close to bones v5.

[Murge]

i found standard conicals to be pretty darn close to bones v5.

Well guess I’m off to get some conicals! Love the V5 shape but I just feel better on spits. My local has some 54mm 99a conicals and this is what I needed to hear to pull the trigger.

[big_kev_215]

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spitfire really has too many damn shapes

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agreed.

pals, what would you cut? what's the perfect amount of options? theres 10 f4 models afaik:

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I'm all for options, but at some point, you are hitting diminishing returns on shapes.

classics
[classic slims, oh how I miss you]
classic full
og classics

radials
radial slim
radial full*

conical
conical full

tablets
lock ins

What I'd add:

AWOL shape (it's like an STF V5)
Conical slim - to replace tablets

Simply because I think they look cool with the purple graphic (and it’s also a pretty good shape) I’d like to see 58 mm F4 OG classics in 97a.  I’d also settle for 56 or 60 mm. 

[europa1991]

Headass question time: but has anyone noticed a difference with tablets when it came down to noseslides/tailslides on ledges and curbs? Been trying to get consistent with those and I’m gonna need new wheels soon so I thought maybe they could give me a bit of an advantage

[tzhangdox]

Headass question time: but has anyone noticed a difference with tablets when it came down to noseslides/tailslides on ledges and curbs? Been trying to get consistent with those and I’m gonna need new wheels soon so I thought maybe they could give me a bit of an advantage

no

[Xen]

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Headass question time: but has anyone noticed a difference with tablets when it came down to noseslides/tailslides on ledges and curbs? Been trying to get consistent with those and I’m gonna need new wheels soon so I thought maybe they could give me a bit of an advantage

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Slides are the same bizness with like contact patch width wheels (conicals for example). Good lock-in on grinds if that's your thing, like 50/50s and such.

It's mental for sure, but I found I didn't skate well on them compared to classics, and didn't prefer them over anything for the slappy game (especially slappy crooks).

[europa1991]

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Headass question time: but has anyone noticed a difference with tablets when it came down to noseslides/tailslides on ledges and curbs? Been trying to get consistent with those and I’m gonna need new wheels soon so I thought maybe they could give me a bit of an advantage

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Slides are the same bizness with like contact patch width wheels (conicals for example). Good lock-in on grinds if that's your thing, like 50/50s and such.

It's mental for sure, but I found I didn't skate well on them compared to classics, and didn't prefer them over anything for the slappy game (especially slappy crooks).

Thank you

[Mbrimson88]

Pulled this line from the normal Wheels thread to add here:

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I just want some 55mm Radials. I know some exist. One day.

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My local has those SLAG 56mm radials, so theres a few sets floating around. Pretty sure they came in 55 as well!

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AFAIK those were 53, 54 and 56 only. Lots of deals on them though and the 56s were natural color but that size may be sold through by now.

I still haven't seen the new Radials or Radial Full wheels, but I have a feeling the Full versions are not much if at all wider, but more so the bigger versions.


Were the first 55mm Radials the Oski dragons, then the Skate Like A Girl the only other Radials in 55mm wheels too?

I thought there were still some 55mm Radials around too, but the initial Skate Like A Girl 55mm Radials came out in the Spring 2020 catalog, from what I saw, which surprised me cause I didn't think it was that long ago.

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2020/

Specifically this one:

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring20/sf-sp20-d2-dt-04-2.jpg


Then the Spring 2021 catalog has the newer ones with the 56mm naturals:

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2021/



The two most recent catalogs have had normal Radials in 52, 54 and 56mm sizes, but I haven't seen many in shops or out there much.  I had all three sizes from a few years back when there were lots around, with the 54mm being the only ones I kept and still have on a board as they are just the most comfortable overall size, but the 56mm is still a good size and shape for bigger wheels too.

It is funny how such a small thing like 55mm in the middle is such a small difference, compared to the more common 54mm or 56mm wheels, but I know others who have gone more for the smaller size for tech, or the bigger size for speed, so if nothing else, at least the 56mm will wear down to 55mm, or the 54mm wheels are the next best thing if you didn't want such big wheels to start with.


https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer21/sf-sm21-radials.jpg



Edit:  Added the Radial size chart, with the 58mm wheels as best I can recall, but they could have easily been wider with more contact mm as well.

[listentoaheartbeat]

Pulled this line from the normal Wheels thread to add here:

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I just want some 55mm Radials. I know some exist. One day.

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My local has those SLAG 56mm radials, so theres a few sets floating around. Pretty sure they came in 55 as well!

[close]

AFAIK those were 53, 54 and 56 only. Lots of deals on them though and the 56s were natural color but that size may be sold through by now.

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I still haven't seen the new Radials or Radial Full wheels, but I have a feeling the Full versions are not much if at all wider, but more so the bigger versions.


Were the first 55mm Radials the Oski dragons, then the Skate Like A Girl the only other Radials in 55mm wheels too?

I thought there were still some 55mm Radials around too, but the initial Skate Like A Girl 55mm Radials came out in the Spring 2020 catalog, from what I saw, which surprised me cause I didn't think it was that long ago.

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2020/

Specifically this one:

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring20/sf-sp20-d2-dt-04-2.jpg


Then the Spring 2021 catalog has the newer ones with the 56mm naturals:

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2021/



The two most recent catalogs have had normal Radials in 52, 54 and 56mm sizes, but I haven't seen many in shops or out there much.  I had all three sizes from a few years back when there were lots around, with the 54mm being the only ones I kept and still have on a board as they are just the most comfortable overall size, but the 56mm is still a good size and shape for bigger wheels too.

It is funny how such a small thing like 55mm in the middle is such a small difference, compared to the more common 54mm or 56mm wheels, but I know others who have gone more for the smaller size for tech, or the bigger size for speed, so if nothing else, at least the 56mm will wear down to 55mm, or the 54mm wheels are the next best thing if you didn't want such big wheels to start with.

I really want these 52mm Radials and compare them with the 52mm Classic Fulls I recently got. My perfect wheel is somewhere in that range.

[Mbrimson88]

I really want these 52mm Radials and compare them with the 52mm Classic Fulls I recently got. My perfect wheel is somewhere in that range.

I just added the Radial size chart in the last message.

Your message from earlier came up in a search for Classic Full too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=68020.msg3655191#msg3655191


Charts to compare size:

[listentoaheartbeat]

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I really want these 52mm Radials and compare them with the 52mm Classic Fulls I recently got. My perfect wheel is somewhere in that range.

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I just added the Radial size chart in the last message.

Your message from earlier came up in a search for Classic Full too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=68020.msg3655191#msg3655191


Charts to compare size:

It’s interesting Spitfire decided to bring back Classic Fulls considering how close they are to Radials. I suppose the radius of the edge is different given they are wider with a smaller riding surface, but not sure that would make any difference in practice. Anyway, I am glad there are options when it comes to small, wide wheels with a round edge. Nothing like this was available when I got into Spitfire a year ago.

[Mbrimson88]

I noticed the Spitfire Fall 2021 Drop 2 is now up.

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/


Really only the pro wheels in conical full from Mark Suciu, classic from Mason Silva and Louie Lopez and the Radial Full from Kader.

Already been discussed, but still waiting to see how many and if there are the 60mm as well as the 57 mm out there in shops.

[Ok]

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Headass question time: but has anyone noticed a difference with tablets when it came down to noseslides/tailslides on ledges and curbs? Been trying to get consistent with those and I’m gonna need new wheels soon so I thought maybe they could give me a bit of an advantage

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Slides are the same bizness with like contact patch width wheels (conicals for example). Good lock-in on grinds if that's your thing, like 50/50s and such.

It's mental for sure, but I found I didn't skate well on them compared to classics, and didn't prefer them over anything for the slappy game (especially slappy crooks).

I’m sure it’s because I’m old as hell…but classics are just way better, for me, than the rest of the shapes.
I skate small enough wheels, that a really wide wheel would be nice, maybe. But…the flip with classics. Just better

[thanksgiving]

101a 52 radials in the spring d2, called speedslims(graphic name afaik) announced today.

also f4 60mm 99 og classics!!!!!! finally!

[FUBAR]

I keep rediscovering every curb session I have, that Tablets are not a good slappy wheel (for me). Dear Lord I love them for everything else though. Those wider classics are looking tempting. At $40+ a set though, I’ll either wait till I actually NEED new wheels or jump on a good sale.

[Reed Richards]

spitfire really has too many damn shapes

There's a bunch now but I'm cool with em.  I just wish they would update the part of the website with the dimensions but for the new wheels.

[Painted Baby]

I noticed the Spitfire Fall 2021 Drop 2 is now up.

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/


Really only the pro wheels in conical full from Mark Suciu, classic from Mason Silva and Louie Lopez and the Radial Full from Kader.

Already been discussed, but still waiting to see how many and if there are the 60mm as well as the 57 mm out there in shops.

57s up on Parade as Loud Clouds
https://www.paradeworld.com/products/spitfire-99-formula-4-kader-loud-clouds-wheels-57mm-166-6668555681857/

[Mbrimson88]

Guessing most places will start showing up in searches within a week or so as stock arrives.


TGM has the 60mm wheels (24 in stock)

https://tgmskateboards.com/spifire-wheels-60mm-f4-kader-loud-clouds-99a-radial-full/


Also on CCS in both 57mm and 60mm

https://shop.ccs.com/collections/skate-components/products/spitfire-f4-99-kader-loud-clouds-radial-full-skateboard-wheels-natural-57mm








That post in the Wheels thread is pretty funny too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3688037#msg3688037

[CaptainCheeks]

For y'all who need it

[white guy in a durag]

The dimensions on the 60s are perfect. I know a shop near me that's getting them and I refresh their webstore every couple hours waiting for them to be added.

[Peepeeboy69]

i strayed from spitfire 99a f4s and got 103 stf. Worst decision. Wheels feel really hard when riding, but they're so difficult to slide and really loud when they do.

Also for some reason they were ridiculously hard to get bearings into, and exploded 6/8 of my bearings in a month. I'm really over them.

[con_hielo]

The dimensions on the 60s are perfect.

[Mbrimson88]

For y'all who need it

Thanks for the pic.

Really shows they are massively wide and I was wrong about them being the same as the regular Radial in a bigger diameter.


Took a close up of the size chart so it is a lot easier to see in here as well.

[manysnakes]

How quickly do these need to sell out before Spitfire realize that people want 57-60mm street wheels to be regularly available?

[Mbrimson88]

How quickly do these need to sell out before Spitfire realize that people want 57-60mm street wheels to be regularly available?

Sometimes it is not so good for the immediate budget, but if you do find something you like, try to buy all of them you can find so you will be set for a while (if not for life) with them.  I had done that a few times over the years and it has more often than not been a very good thing.  Sometimes though, your needs or wants change, and you get left with something, but more often than not, you can resell it for the same as what you paid if it is worth it to others who still wanted more of that size, shape, etc.


It would also help to get them to see people want more if they did sell out quickly.

[MysticalTypeExperience]

i strayed from spitfire 99a f4s and got 103 stf. Worst decision. Wheels feel really hard when riding, but they're so difficult to slide and really loud when they do.

Also for some reason they were ridiculously hard to get bearings into, and exploded 6/8 of my bearings in a month. I'm really over them.

Aren't harder wheels always harder to get bearings into