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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3510 on: January 12, 2021, 05:57:54 PM »
What's really weird is that you have sellers pushing fake product at full-price. I had some "eBay Bucks" kicking around and I decided to pick up some Bones Big Ball Bearings, and it was immediately obvious that these were fake. They were regular price - $25 - not the too-good-too-be-true Bones Swiss price you see on there. I emailed the buyer and get immediately issued me a return label, without comment, so he knows they are fake

I should have known better, but I know there are legit skate shops selling Bones Bearings online

This is the seller, by the way. I assume that everything he is selling is also 100% fake (and also has the aforementioned too-good-too-be-true prices)
https://www.ebay.com/sch/jdub7217/m.html?ssPageName=&_trksid=p2057872.m4086.l2654

Guys who sell counterfeits Spitfires stick to a few designs:

Lacey Baker Conicals
Neckface Conicals
Red Conical Full
Blue Conical Full
Dressed Black Wheel Conical
Radial Slim 54mm Speed Kills
Overlay Radial
Reynolds Blue Wheels
Green Conical
Red Tablets (listed as Conical / Conical Full)

If you're buying these for yourself because you're curious, that's fine and have fun with them. But selling hucking them at full price and claiming they are genuine are unforgivable scum.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3511 on: January 12, 2021, 06:40:31 PM »
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On the topic of wheels: I skate Ďbetterí on 50-52, live in a crusty zone. At what point in escalating wheel size do more spots become available to people? I was skating at my personal best, quite awhile ago, and had this experience where I met up with some folks that were outside my ability level. They were bombing hills, skitching back up, lots of grinds on Unwaxed shit, you know, ruling. I was waaaay back on a 775, loís etc. couldnít handle the terrain outside of the skatepark. Iíve chased bigger setups since, hasnít really helped.

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How big your wheels need to be to skate most places?
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53/54mm. Start to notice the struggle at spots when they get below 50mm. A wider contact patch helps a lot. If I go above 55 my flatground goes to shit and the wheelbite is too much (medium loose Ventures).

I'm on some 54 Loopholes. The square shape ones. Love everything about them. They power through everything without being too big or wide (might be the formula helping here, too). I might try the v-cuts next for some more width/stability.
54mm is the happy medium, itís all I rode for years!

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3512 on: January 12, 2021, 06:53:56 PM »
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On the topic of wheels: I skate Ďbetterí on 50-52, live in a crusty zone. At what point in escalating wheel size do more spots become available to people? I was skating at my personal best, quite awhile ago, and had this experience where I met up with some folks that were outside my ability level. They were bombing hills, skitching back up, lots of grinds on Unwaxed shit, you know, ruling. I was waaaay back on a 775, loís etc. couldnít handle the terrain outside of the skatepark. Iíve chased bigger setups since, hasnít really helped.

TL;dr

How big your wheels need to be to skate most places?
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53/54mm. Start to notice the struggle at spots when they get below 50mm. A wider contact patch helps a lot. If I go above 55 my flatground goes to shit and the wheelbite is too much (medium loose Ventures).

I'm on some 54 Loopholes. The square shape ones. Love everything about them. They power through everything without being too big or wide (might be the formula helping here, too). I might try the v-cuts next for some more width/stability.
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54mm is the happy medium, itís all I rode for years!

Thanks for the responses. I was afraid of the answers. ĎPreciate it tho.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3513 on: January 12, 2021, 10:30:46 PM »
wow, this guy actually has a whole bunch of fake shit posted now that I look at the rest of the stuff for sale:
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There are so many more sellers that ONLY sell fake product, as per that guy - everything he is selling is fake, some might look very similar but there are always inconsistencies.  For the most part, almost all the buyers would never know it is fake, which is the biggest issue, especially if they are paying closer to retail prices and have a not so good experience.

The more interesting thing to me, ( and I am not going to buy fake stuff,) but I do wonder how it actually skates compared to the real product, so if you do come by some and they don't ask for it back, get out there and give it a belting and see how it does hold up.

The fake market is growing on a massive scale, especially with so much product still not being widely available on the global market, so sometimes it might be so well done that even people who know might find it hard to tell the difference.

Almost always if it is a no name seller on ebay or other online platform, with no shop link or something like that, it is going to be fake or hot product.

I talk too much about skateboards.  Sorry.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3514 on: January 12, 2021, 10:40:48 PM »
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On the topic of wheels: I skate Ďbetterí on 50-52, live in a crusty zone. At what point in escalating wheel size do more spots become available to people?

How big your wheels need to be to skate most places?
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53/54mm. Start to notice the struggle at spots when they get below 50mm. A wider contact patch helps a lot. If I go above 55 my flatground goes to shit and the wheelbite is too much (medium loose Ventures).

I'm on some 54 Loopholes. The square shape ones. Love everything about them. They power through everything without being too big or wide (might be the formula helping here, too). I might try the v-cuts next for some more width/stability.
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54mm is the happy medium, itís all I rode for years!


I always had a few boards set up with different sized wheels, all usually started out the same size, Spitfires most about the 56mm various graphics to 59mm bigheads, but I would always have at least one board that was below 50mm and one that was a lot closer to new 59mm and depending on what terrain I would skate, I could pick and choose which board I would ride.  To most people this was a bit ridiculous.

Although I had way too many of all the same board, it was fun, but now I usually just have two boards kicking around in the car, one with about 56mm (newer wheels) and one with the same wheels down around 52mm, so that is pretty much everything covered.

I know some guys that use the same board but always carry a spare set or two of wheels with bearings in them, all done up on a shoe lace, so if they want to skate something specific, they change the wheels out, but to me that is more of a pain.  It definitely works for them though.



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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3515 on: January 12, 2021, 11:46:17 PM »
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wow, this guy actually has a whole bunch of fake shit posted now that I look at the rest of the stuff for sale:
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There are so many more sellers that ONLY sell fake product, as per that guy - everything he is selling is fake, some might look very similar but there are always inconsistencies.  For the most part, almost all the buyers would never know it is fake, which is the biggest issue, especially if they are paying closer to retail prices and have a not so good experience.

The more interesting thing to me, ( and I am not going to buy fake stuff,) but I do wonder how it actually skates compared to the real product, so if you do come by some and they don't ask for it back, get out there and give it a belting and see how it does hold up.

The fake market is growing on a massive scale, especially with so much product still not being widely available on the global market, so sometimes it might be so well done that even people who know might find it hard to tell the difference.

Almost always if it is a no name seller on ebay or other online platform, with no shop link or something like that, it is going to be fake or hot product.

The wheels are horrible, that much I can attest to. Can't bring myself to buy a fake Baker board to test it out, but I've heard mixed reviews; even experienced riders haven't said bad things about it.

Fake Venture Titaniums are a laugh too:


"Part came with a small defect, but everything was settled with the seller"

This ain't no small defect.....
Did any of you guys ever notice that if you took off the end "er" from his name, moved the "b" to after the "i" and then added an "l" to the "b" that you just moved, you'd spell "Bible"?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3516 on: January 13, 2021, 12:21:56 AM »
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On the topic of wheels: I skate Ďbetterí on 50-52, live in a crusty zone. At what point in escalating wheel size do more spots become available to people?

How big your wheels need to be to skate most places?
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53/54mm. Start to notice the struggle at spots when they get below 50mm. A wider contact patch helps a lot. If I go above 55 my flatground goes to shit and the wheelbite is too much (medium loose Ventures).

I'm on some 54 Loopholes. The square shape ones. Love everything about them. They power through everything without being too big or wide (might be the formula helping here, too). I might try the v-cuts next for some more width/stability.
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54mm is the happy medium, itís all I rode for years!
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I always had a few boards set up with different sized wheels, all usually started out the same size, Spitfires most about the 56mm various graphics to 59mm bigheads, but I would always have at least one board that was below 50mm and one that was a lot closer to new 59mm and depending on what terrain I would skate, I could pick and choose which board I would ride.  To most people this was a bit ridiculous.

Although I had way too many of all the same board, it was fun, but now I usually just have two boards kicking around in the car, one with about 56mm (newer wheels) and one with the same wheels down around 52mm, so that is pretty much everything covered.

I know some guys that use the same board but always carry a spare set or two of wheels with bearings in them, all done up on a shoe lace, so if they want to skate something specific, they change the wheels out, but to me that is more of a pain.  It definitely works for them though.




Iím the same, I now have two boards; one with 52s and the other with 56s, covers all my bases!

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3517 on: January 13, 2021, 02:12:12 AM »

Fake Venture Titaniums are a laugh too:

"Part came with a small defect, but everything was settled with the seller"

This ain't no small defect.....

Did you do the magnet test too? 

Titanium is not magnetic, so if a magnet sticks to the axle, they are not titanium.


And just to keep it relevant, those fake Spitfires were crap after all?

This makes me happy, because I really don't want to get any, but I was itching to try some.


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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3518 on: January 13, 2021, 07:22:54 AM »
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Fake Venture Titaniums are a laugh too:

"Part came with a small defect, but everything was settled with the seller"

This ain't no small defect.....
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Did you do the magnet test too? 

Titanium is not magnetic, so if a magnet sticks to the axle, they are not titanium.


And just to keep it relevant, those fake Spitfires were crap after all?

This makes me happy, because I really don't want to get any, but I was itching to try some.

I ordered. Pair of the fake Ventures but they didn't arrive after 2 months so I got a refund.

Yes the fake Spitfires are horrible. They're round and they roll, not good if you like sliding.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3519 on: January 13, 2021, 08:31:27 AM »
I can't believe these posts with the fake spits/indys/ventures...wow.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3520 on: January 13, 2021, 09:49:26 AM »
Y'all wack for buying that shit

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« Reply #3521 on: January 13, 2021, 10:05:48 AM »

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3522 on: January 13, 2021, 10:25:55 AM »
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Y'all wack for buying that shit
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Counterfeit skate stuff isn't a big problem in the US which rarely has shortage of quality skate products, everywhere else in the world felt the gear shortage in 2020 more acutely, hence the prominence of these Counterfeits. I won't begrudge anyone buying or riding them, everyone has different abilities to spend on skateboarding and we should support what keeps the industry alive when we can afford it.

This is the quality of stuff that developing parts of Asia (Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines) and its even crept into parts of Australia. I have no qualms with people buying and riding counterfeits, people have been doing that with luxury goods for the longest times. But sellers scamming people and telling buyers their stuff is genuine is where I thought I should step in and say something, at least within my own country.

I bought and tested a couple of sets of counterfeit spitfire wheels to do a comparison against the legit stuff; give them a fair shake to they were worth the $25 price tag. Unfortunately they weren't, hence the series of posts to educate others on how to spot the genuine and fake wheels. They are ok for $10 wheels, but definitely a rip off for $25 while bearing the spitfire brand name.

If people are spending their hard earned money buying skate product, they deserve to know if it's legit or at the very least know how to spot fakes.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3523 on: January 13, 2021, 10:59:09 AM »
I'm all about soft wheels right now as I enjoy cruising more and more. Looking to replace my hard as a rock Ricta Core 55mm with some Ricta 56mm/78a. My only hangup is do I go with Clouds or Chrome Clouds? Any thoughts on either one? I did look at the OJ Mini Super Juice (55mm/78a) but they are wider and would stick out a bit too much for my liking on this setup.

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« Reply #3524 on: January 13, 2021, 11:54:47 AM »
I'm all about soft wheels right now as I enjoy cruising more and more. Looking to replace my hard as a rock Ricta Core 55mm with some Ricta 56mm/78a. My only hangup is do I go with Clouds or Chrome Clouds? Any thoughts on either one? I did look at the OJ Mini Super Juice (55mm/78a) but they are wider and would stick out a bit too much for my liking on this setup.
i donít know the difference in those ricta. Chrome clouds newer? Also could try oj Keyframes theyre 78a and well liked. Mine held up. Super juice are a 100% cruiser wheel, shaped as so. You looking for a street classic shape but softer durometer? Ricta also makes an 80-range too, and there are now harder 95a on nomads out for a middle ground.

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« Reply #3525 on: January 13, 2021, 12:09:21 PM »
I think Keyframes come in 78 and 87a... honestly unless youíre just after pure downhill speed the 87a are amazingly fun. Soft-but-still-slightly-firm. Skate them anywhere, crust/street/park.

Iíve got a set of 52mm clouds (78) and I guess they feel ok too. Not as soft as others in that range (76-78) Iíve tried but I donít like the feel of a street cut shape in that type of eurethane personally.

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« Reply #3526 on: January 13, 2021, 12:14:02 PM »
The "bought em to test em" explanation feels kinda stupid. You gave them money, they gonna keep doing that. Everybody always ends up using that excuse, but what if the wheels/trucks/bearings were any good? Or even decent? You all would totally buy them again and be taking more money away from skateboarding.

My money used to be tight, but i would rather skate 30mm flatspotted Spitfires than order some cheap trash from ebay.

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« Reply #3527 on: January 13, 2021, 04:11:27 PM »
i donít know the difference in those ricta. Chrome clouds newer? Also could try oj Keyframes theyre 78a and well liked. Mine held up. Super juice are a 100% cruiser wheel, shaped as so. You looking for a street classic shape but softer durometer? Ricta also makes an 80-range too, and there are now harder 95a on nomads out for a middle ground.

I think Keyframes come in 78 and 87a... honestly unless youíre just after pure downhill speed the 87a are amazingly fun. Soft-but-still-slightly-firm. Skate them anywhere, crust/street/park.

Iíve got a set of 52mm clouds (78) and I guess they feel ok too. Not as soft as others in that range (76-78) Iíve tried but I donít like the feel of a street cut shape in that type of eurethane personally.

Thanks both of you! Yeah I believe the chrome clouds are newer (still out for a couple years now) than the clouds. Yep I'm looking for street classic shape, but was tempted by the mini super juice after watching some John Gardner videos. The Keyframes look like a nice shape but I've only seen them in 87a...I'll have to look around a bit more. Then again, perhaps 87a is closer to what I'm actually looking for. Interesting the 52mm 78a Clouds felt harder than others in that range. Main goal is to go over rough parking lots and sidewalks a bit easier while still being able to do some ollies, kickflips, and curb grinds. I'm still sifting through options.

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« Reply #3528 on: January 13, 2021, 04:26:41 PM »
The "bought em to test em" explanation feels kinda stupid. You gave them money, they gonna keep doing that. Everybody always ends up using that excuse, but what if the wheels/trucks/bearings were any good? Or even decent? You all would totally buy them again and be taking more money away from skateboarding.

My money used to be tight, but i would rather skate 30mm flatspotted Spitfires than order some cheap trash from ebay.

Some skate shops, yes SKATE SHOPS in Asia and other places are actually buying in those fakes too, which is a really sad day for skateboarding in general.

There are a lot of people, be it kids, or parents buying for their kids, or who knows what, but a lot of people shopping from their home and ebay is a very easy source of product, so they have no idea it is fake.

Even looking at ebay feedback for the few sellers I have marked as "every product they sell is 100% fake" they are still getting mainly if not all positive reviews, with just one or two getting negative feedback when someone really knows what is going on.  One guy I messaged asking about the product even tried to tell me it was legit, claiming where it was from and I was getting a bargain, as the wheels were slightly cheaper than the regular RRP, but when I pointed out with pics the clear differences and exactly what his wheels were, I got no more replies back and the guy is still selling more of his fake stuff on ebay.com.au and getting away with it.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3529 on: January 13, 2021, 04:33:47 PM »
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i donít know the difference in those ricta. Chrome clouds newer? Also could try oj Keyframes theyre 78a and well liked. Mine held up. Super juice are a 100% cruiser wheel, shaped as so. You looking for a street classic shape but softer durometer? Ricta also makes an 80-range too, and there are now harder 95a on nomads out for a middle ground.
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I think Keyframes come in 78 and 87a... honestly unless youíre just after pure downhill speed the 87a are amazingly fun. Soft-but-still-slightly-firm. Skate them anywhere, crust/street/park.

Iíve got a set of 52mm clouds (78) and I guess they feel ok too. Not as soft as others in that range (76-78) Iíve tried but I donít like the feel of a street cut shape in that type of eurethane personally.
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Thanks both of you! Yeah I believe the chrome clouds are newer (still out for a couple years now) than the clouds. Yep I'm looking for street classic shape, but was tempted by the mini super juice after watching some John Gardner videos. The Keyframes look like a nice shape but I've only seen them in 87a...I'll have to look around a bit more. Then again, perhaps 87a is closer to what I'm actually looking for. Interesting the 52mm 78a Clouds felt harder than others in that range. Main goal is to go over rough parking lots and sidewalks a bit easier while still being able to do some ollies, kickflips, and curb grinds. I'm still sifting through options.

I found that around 90 duro was the perfect mix of compound for wheels for all terrain, as you can still just cess slide a bit if you need to but everything else is very smooth sailing over almost anything on the ground without feeling the sucking of speed out of smaller lower duro wheels, especially when you turn or carve sharply.

Things a few points on either side of that still work fine too, eg Keyframes in 87a, or my old Spitfire soft-d 92 wheels, but others like Ricta clouds (chrome is just the new cool look like rims on your car), Bones / Powell / Mini logo 90 duro, and a few others in regular skateboard wheel shapes, without getting in to the 60+ size and them turning into monster truck sized wheels.

It all depends on what you have access to, as a lot of these have been sold out and out of production for a bit, but most are still out there if you look hard enough, or want to have them shipped.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3530 on: January 13, 2021, 05:00:25 PM »
Yeah my bad, 87a keyframes are great for that. Rough parking lots and curbs. They can still slide a little bit, at least revert, and wonít get thrown like i have on 80hd chargers.
Loving my NFG 95a at the moment though. Perfect mixture to do it all.

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« Reply #3531 on: January 13, 2021, 06:14:13 PM »
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The "bought em to test em" explanation feels kinda stupid. You gave them money, they gonna keep doing that. Everybody always ends up using that excuse, but what if the wheels/trucks/bearings were any good? Or even decent? You all would totally buy them again and be taking more money away from skateboarding.

My money used to be tight, but i would rather skate 30mm flatspotted Spitfires than order some cheap trash from ebay.
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Some skate shops, yes SKATE SHOPS in Asia and other places are actually buying in those fakes too, which is a really sad day for skateboarding in general.

There are a lot of people, be it kids, or parents buying for their kids, or who knows what, but a lot of people shopping from their home and ebay is a very easy source of product, so they have no idea it is fake.

Even looking at ebay feedback for the few sellers I have marked as "every product they sell is 100% fake" they are still getting mainly if not all positive reviews, with just one or two getting negative feedback when someone really knows what is going on.  One guy I messaged asking about the product even tried to tell me it was legit, claiming where it was from and I was getting a bargain, as the wheels were slightly cheaper than the regular RRP, but when I pointed out with pics the clear differences and exactly what his wheels were, I got no more replies back and the guy is still selling more of his fake stuff on ebay.com.au and getting away with it.



Power to you if that's how you want to spend your money. I bought them to test the out and do a post on my social media telling others how to spot the fakes from legit wheels. I rode them afterwards so I can give an honest assessment on them; they are incredibly sticky and have a weird bounce despite being 101a rated.

I'd rather part with my $25 and be the guinea pig for these shit wheels and get the word out, than someone spending $40 buying these at full price while being told a bold face lie by the seller.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3532 on: January 13, 2021, 07:22:53 PM »

I found that around 90 duro was the perfect mix of compound for wheels for all terrain, as you can still just cess slide a bit if you need to but everything else is very smooth sailing over almost anything on the ground without feeling the sucking of speed out of smaller lower duro wheels, especially when you turn or carve sharply.

Things a few points on either side of that still work fine too, eg Keyframes in 87a, or my old Spitfire soft-d 92 wheels, but others like Ricta clouds (chrome is just the new cool look like rims on your car), Bones / Powell / Mini logo 90 duro, and a few others in regular skateboard wheel shapes, without getting in to the 60+ size and them turning into monster truck sized wheels.

It all depends on what you have access to, as a lot of these have been sold out and out of production for a bit, but most are still out there if you look hard enough, or want to have them shipped.

Thanks for reply! Locally there's nothing available but I have been able to find all the different wheels I'm looking at in stock online. Yeah 55-56mm and 78-90a seems to be the window I'm looking at. Went into this thinking 78a or bust, but with comments in this thread now 86/87a doesn't sound too bad at all.

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« Reply #3533 on: January 13, 2021, 07:25:11 PM »
Yeah my bad, 87a keyframes are great for that. Rough parking lots and curbs. They can still slide a little bit, at least revert, and wonít get thrown like i have on 80hd chargers.
Loving my NFG 95a at the moment though. Perfect mixture to do it all.

Awesome. Thanks. I hadn't given much thought to the keyframes until they were mentioned here a few times. They're looking pretty good.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3534 on: January 14, 2021, 10:54:40 PM »
Been skating 60mm spitfire f4 classics for the last couple months, skating street mostly.

If you ride 56mm the adjustment period is pretty minimal. They look insane on smaller boards and roll over crust like a conical full.

Highly recommended.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3535 on: January 15, 2021, 01:14:47 AM »
Been skating 60mm spitfire f4 classics for the last couple months, skating street mostly.

If you ride 56mm the adjustment period is pretty minimal. They look insane on smaller boards and roll over crust like a conical full.

Highly recommended.
I will admit that i've had trouble with some fliptricks since changing to 60mm from 56mm. I think it has more to do with using risers than wheels itself, what trucks are you riding and do you run any risers?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3536 on: January 15, 2021, 01:38:02 AM »
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The "bought em to test em" explanation feels kinda stupid. You gave them money, they gonna keep doing that. Everybody always ends up using that excuse, but what if the wheels/trucks/bearings were any good? Or even decent? You all would totally buy them again and be taking more money away from skateboarding.

My money used to be tight, but i would rather skate 30mm flatspotted Spitfires than order some cheap trash from ebay.
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Some skate shops, yes SKATE SHOPS in Asia and other places are actually buying in those fakes too, which is a really sad day for skateboarding in general.

There are a lot of people, be it kids, or parents buying for their kids, or who knows what, but a lot of people shopping from their home and ebay is a very easy source of product, so they have no idea it is fake.

Even looking at ebay feedback for the few sellers I have marked as "every product they sell is 100% fake" they are still getting mainly if not all positive reviews, with just one or two getting negative feedback when someone really knows what is going on.  One guy I messaged asking about the product even tried to tell me it was legit, claiming where it was from and I was getting a bargain, as the wheels were slightly cheaper than the regular RRP, but when I pointed out with pics the clear differences and exactly what his wheels were, I got no more replies back and the guy is still selling more of his fake stuff on ebay.com.au and getting away with it.

Can you pass on a link? I've reported sellers with fake Bones bearings before. I doubt much happens but I try get the ball rolling.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3537 on: January 15, 2021, 04:54:29 AM »
Ok so regarding the ebay/mercari fake bones... There's a few things ive noticed that are a dead giveaway.

First off if they claim they're "open box" or "used for display" then thats a huge red flag, especially if they have dozens of them in every flavor. Has anyone ever seen a bones display with open boxes in a legit skate shop? Me neither. Whats more likely is the factory wasn't able to replicate the skate rated sticker so they just unwrapped them.

Second one is a lot of the time they'll also be selling  "sovereign speed" or "Supreme" bearings, i assume because they come from the same factory. I have a feeling that a lot of these sellers are part of a network that deals almost exclusively in counterfeit chinese goods. Im sure they're paying pennies on the dollar for them so I'd imagine its very lucrative. I've noticed that when they start to get too many negative reviews or feedback they delete the account and a new one pops up with obviously faked feedback.

So basically, if you're trying to get a deal on bones then your best bet is to wait for a good hardgoods discount code from a reputable shop like SPOT or socal.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3538 on: January 15, 2021, 06:35:03 AM »
Seems like the open box ones are just the ones people returned because they realized they're fake lol.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3539 on: January 15, 2021, 11:40:29 AM »
anyone ride Darkroom wheels yet?

I usually don't ride 99a, but they don't make an 83b and I want to try some new shit.