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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1800 on: January 22, 2023, 06:56:45 PM »
Part of me really wants to try that Green Giant, but I'm not super keen on the graphic.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1801 on: January 22, 2023, 07:20:48 PM »
Part of me really wants to try that Green Giant, but I'm not super keen on the graphic.

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« Reply #1802 on: January 22, 2023, 07:27:15 PM »
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Part of me really wants to try that Green Giant, but I'm not super keen on the graphic.
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Oh, for sure. The graphic won't dissuade me if I really end up wanting to grab one. I've been skating back-to-back Huffers, though, and I'm having a hard time finding a reason not to just continue that route. haha.

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« Reply #1803 on: January 22, 2023, 08:33:35 PM »
Is it just me or did AH decks used to have more concave than they do now?
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« Reply #1804 on: January 23, 2023, 10:43:39 AM »
Part of me really wants to try that Green Giant, but I'm not super keen on the graphic.

I had the green Green Giant and I can't explain why but it's the heaviest feeling set up I've ever had.  It's probably the wheelbase but it just felt sluggish and it was a chore to skate it.  And I like wide boards.

It's my cruiser now and excels at that.

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« Reply #1805 on: January 23, 2023, 11:04:09 AM »
Is it just me or did AH decks used to have more concave than they do now?

Appreciate that perspective!

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« Reply #1806 on: January 23, 2023, 12:27:39 PM »
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Who was keen on the Black Widow shape?

8.5 x 31.7 with 14.2 wb that some people described as a mini Huffer.


There is one in the new catalog.


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1807 on: January 23, 2023, 01:06:53 PM »
Manderson is 8.38 and has a fuller nose.

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« Reply #1808 on: January 23, 2023, 01:38:49 PM »
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Part of me really wants to try that Green Giant, but I'm not super keen on the graphic.
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I had the green Green Giant and I can't explain why but it's the heaviest feeling set up I've ever had.  It's probably the wheelbase but it just felt sluggish and it was a chore to skate it.  And I like wide boards.

It's my cruiser now and excels at that.

Well it has giant in the name and is almost 33" long with a wheelbase bigger than an actual mega ramp board and a width of over 9" so that might make sense.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1809 on: January 24, 2023, 05:14:00 AM »
can one of you nerds (non-derogatory) break down the differences between krooked's regular 8.25 x 32 shape (14.38 wheelbase) and the manderson shape? i'm mostly looking for something with a 14.25 wheelbase that's a little bigger than the 8.25 shape but i'm afraid the nose and tail will be too much to get used to


The 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb is used across all DLX brands and was at one point the most common board of all in the whole range.  It is often described as the best of everything and pairs well with whatever trucks, but that is down to personal opinion more than anything.

I think people have said the Manderson shape - 8.38 x 32 with 14.25 wb is closer to 8.5 and very squared in shape.

One you might like to look for is the generic DLX shape 8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wb, most commonly used on Antihero decks, but occasionally on other DLX boards too.  It is definitely less than the 8.5 and even less than the usual 8.38 boards, of which I have a lot of, being my usual go to nowdays.  I skated a few of the 8.4 boards when I went up from the 8.125, which also had 32 length and 14.25 wb, so it was a good in between for me.

To look at the 8.25 Full SE, which is also 32 long with 14.25 wb, you might find that one nice as well, but may be a little harder to get than some, eg two currently out from DLX catalogs, but sometimes there are no new ones in any drops for that period.

Lastly, the 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb is anything but 8.5 wide, as many people have pointed out, so if you did want a bit wider board with a 14.25 wb, see if you can find one of these and compare it to whatever else there is in 8.25 in the same shop and you might even be surprised that it might work better than you think.


Comparison of Manderson and 8.4 shapes here in this post from a while back in this thread too (page 53):


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.msg3844226;topicseen#msg3844226



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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1810 on: January 24, 2023, 05:43:12 AM »
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Who was keen on the Black Widow shape?

8.5 x 31.7 with 14.2 wb that some people described as a mini Huffer.


There is one in the new catalog.


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1811 on: January 24, 2023, 08:59:02 AM »
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Who was keen on the Black Widow shape?


I’m getting couple because of how much I love this shape even though I don’t need any new decks. It’s one of the only shaped decks that I’d skate as my main setup. It’s a good 360 flip board
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1812 on: January 24, 2023, 09:50:03 AM »
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Who was keen on the Black Widow shape?

8.5 x 31.7 with 14.2 wb that some people described as a mini Huffer.


There is one in the new catalog.


https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/spring-2023/




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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1813 on: January 24, 2023, 05:17:31 PM »
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can one of you nerds (non-derogatory) break down the differences between krooked's regular 8.25 x 32 shape (14.38 wheelbase) and the manderson shape? i'm mostly looking for something with a 14.25 wheelbase that's a little bigger than the 8.25 shape but i'm afraid the nose and tail will be too much to get used to
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I think people have said the Manderson shape - 8.38 x 32 with 14.25 wb is closer to 8.5 and very squared in shape.
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thanks for all that! this is where i'm getting hung up - what do you mean by "closer to 8.5"? is it measured including the concave or something? does the squared off shape just make it look bigger?


Some boards will come out at the exact dimensions listed, but others come out wider / different than listed, including the 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 which is more like 8.3 for other brands and the Manderson shape which is listed as 8.38 but is closer to 8.5 and seems like it is wider than the normal 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb (which runs small) at barely 8.45 at the shoulder down to 8.3 at the back end.

If you can find somewhere to go stand on them, or line them up, side by side, it is easier to see.  The difference is not that much really, maybe a single mm or two here or there, but there is still a difference.

I just got some more of the newer 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb and they are definitely not as wide as an old blue eagle I have had for more than ten years and my 8.38 boards are definitely even at the shoulder and wider than them towards the tail too.


If you can't stand on any and have to buy online, get whatever you think might work, mostly based on wheelbase if that is the main thing and try any of those others, be it the short / blue eagle 8.5 (or whatever graphic is on the shape), the 8.4 or the Manderson shape, which is more like a Full SE than the other two in the blunt kicks.

Hope that helps and sorry for any confusion.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1814 on: January 25, 2023, 09:22:06 AM »
Part of me really wants to try that Green Giant, but I'm not super keen on the graphic.

Is the 9" the same as the Orange Eagle? The nose looks a bit fuller than normal. Might be seeing things

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1815 on: January 25, 2023, 09:25:03 AM »
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Part of me really wants to try that Green Giant, but I'm not super keen on the graphic.
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Is the 9" the same as the Orange Eagle? The nose looks a bit fuller than normal. Might be seeing things

Dims are the same. I toggled between the two and I think they're the same. But the more I look, the more I think the nose does look fuller. My brain might be playing tricks on me.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1816 on: January 25, 2023, 09:31:31 AM »
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Part of me really wants to try that Green Giant, but I'm not super keen on the graphic.
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Is the 9" the same as the Orange Eagle? The nose looks a bit fuller than normal. Might be seeing things
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Dims are the same. I toggled between the two and I think they're the same. But the more I look, the more I think the nose does look fuller. My brain might be playing tricks on me.
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« Reply #1817 on: January 25, 2023, 10:01:50 AM »
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can one of you nerds (non-derogatory) break down the differences between krooked's regular 8.25 x 32 shape (14.38 wheelbase) and the manderson shape? i'm mostly looking for something with a 14.25 wheelbase that's a little bigger than the 8.25 shape but i'm afraid the nose and tail will be too much to get used to
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I think people have said the Manderson shape - 8.38 x 32 with 14.25 wb is closer to 8.5 and very squared in shape.
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thanks for all that! this is where i'm getting hung up - what do you mean by "closer to 8.5"? is it measured including the concave or something? does the squared off shape just make it look bigger?
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Some boards will come out at the exact dimensions listed, but others come out wider / different than listed, including the 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 which is more like 8.3 for other brands and the Manderson shape which is listed as 8.38 but is closer to 8.5 and seems like it is wider than the normal 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb (which runs small) at barely 8.45 at the shoulder down to 8.3 at the back end.

If you can find somewhere to go stand on them, or line them up, side by side, it is easier to see.  The difference is not that much really, maybe a single mm or two here or there, but there is still a difference.

I just got some more of the newer 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb and they are definitely not as wide as an old blue eagle I have had for more than ten years and my 8.38 boards are definitely even at the shoulder and wider than them towards the tail too.


If you can't stand on any and have to buy online, get whatever you think might work, mostly based on wheelbase if that is the main thing and try any of those others, be it the short / blue eagle 8.5 (or whatever graphic is on the shape), the 8.4 or the Manderson shape, which is more like a Full SE than the other two in the blunt kicks.

Hope that helps and sorry for any confusion.
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super helpful! for what it's worth, i think PS stix measures their boards including concave and dlx measures theirs without, which might explain the discrepancy between some sizes. i stood on the new krooked 8.5 shape at the shop and was surprised by how small it felt (i'm used to the 8.25 size) so i might end up going with that one, but it seems like both are great options. thanks!

This is correct. PS measures surface length and most other woodshops measure tip to tip straight across.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1818 on: January 25, 2023, 10:18:39 PM »
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can one of you nerds (non-derogatory) break down the differences between krooked's regular 8.25 x 32 shape (14.38 wheelbase) and the manderson shape? i'm mostly looking for something with a 14.25 wheelbase that's a little bigger than the 8.25 shape but i'm afraid the nose and tail will be too much to get used to
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I think people have said the Manderson shape - 8.38 x 32 with 14.25 wb is closer to 8.5 and very squared in shape.
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thanks for all that! this is where i'm getting hung up - what do you mean by "closer to 8.5"? is it measured including the concave or something? does the squared off shape just make it look bigger?
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Some boards will come out at the exact dimensions listed, but others come out wider / different than listed, including the 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 which is more like 8.3 for other brands and the Manderson shape which is listed as 8.38 but is closer to 8.5 and seems like it is wider than the normal 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb (which runs small) at barely 8.45 at the shoulder down to 8.3 at the back end.

If you can find somewhere to go stand on them, or line them up, side by side, it is easier to see.  The difference is not that much really, maybe a single mm or two here or there, but there is still a difference.

I just got some more of the newer 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb and they are definitely not as wide as an old blue eagle I have had for more than ten years and my 8.38 boards are definitely even at the shoulder and wider than them towards the tail too.


If you can't stand on any and have to buy online, get whatever you think might work, mostly based on wheelbase if that is the main thing and try any of those others, be it the short / blue eagle 8.5 (or whatever graphic is on the shape), the 8.4 or the Manderson shape, which is more like a Full SE than the other two in the blunt kicks.

Hope that helps and sorry for any confusion.
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super helpful! for what it's worth, i think PS stix measures their boards including concave and dlx measures theirs without, which might explain the discrepancy between some sizes. i stood on the new krooked 8.5 shape at the shop and was surprised by how small it felt (i'm used to the 8.25 size) so i might end up going with that one, but it seems like both are great options. thanks!
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This is correct. PS measures surface length and most other woodshops measure tip to tip straight across.

yup, surface area.if they input the dimension's data into the CAD software, my guess it would be the length of the board tip to tip. then factor in the angle of the kicks, concave and wheelbase. i might be wrong though. just my guess.

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« Reply #1819 on: January 26, 2023, 07:00:02 AM »
I REALLY wish DLX would make something with a 14.75 - 15in wb and 8.3 - 8.4in wide. My long and slender body craves a long and slender board.

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« Reply #1820 on: January 26, 2023, 09:06:51 AM »
I REALLY wish DLX would make something with a 14.75 - 15in wb and 8.3 - 8.4in wide. My long and slender body craves a long and slender board.

They have an 8.5 14.75 that drops from time to time. Most recently I think There used it on chandlers pro model. It’s a really good shape. As a fellow tall person I can confirm it’s great. Honestly want to get another one because I’ve never been able to ollie as high on shorter boards than I was able to on that one.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1821 on: January 26, 2023, 09:18:36 AM »
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I REALLY wish DLX would make something with a 14.75 - 15in wb and 8.3 - 8.4in wide. My long and slender body craves a long and slender board.
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They have an 8.5 14.75 that drops from time to time. Most recently I think There used it on chandlers pro model. It’s a really good shape. As a fellow tall person I can confirm it’s great. Honestly want to get another one because I’ve never been able to ollie as high on shorter boards than I was able to on that one.
Not exactly 14.75 but really close. If you're looking for a longer WB on a 8.5 this one might be for you --- 8.5 x 32.6 x 14.69
 https://www.thereskateboards.com/product-page/night-garden-chandler-pro-8-5

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« Reply #1822 on: January 26, 2023, 10:27:23 AM »
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I REALLY wish DLX would make something with a 14.75 - 15in wb and 8.3 - 8.4in wide. My long and slender body craves a long and slender board.
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They have an 8.5 14.75 that drops from time to time. Most recently I think There used it on chandlers pro model. It’s a really good shape. As a fellow tall person I can confirm it’s great. Honestly want to get another one because I’ve never been able to ollie as high on shorter boards than I was able to on that one.
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Not exactly 14.75 but really close. If you're looking for a longer WB on a 8.5 this one might be for you --- 8.5 x 32.6 x 14.69
 https://www.thereskateboards.com/product-page/night-garden-chandler-pro-8-5

They have one that’s 14.75” too but I haven’t seen those in years. I had one Real deck in that shape and quite liked it.

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« Reply #1823 on: January 26, 2023, 11:10:35 AM »
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I REALLY wish DLX would make something with a 14.75 - 15in wb and 8.3 - 8.4in wide. My long and slender body craves a long and slender board.
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They have an 8.5 14.75 that drops from time to time. Most recently I think There used it on chandlers pro model. It’s a really good shape. As a fellow tall person I can confirm it’s great. Honestly want to get another one because I’ve never been able to ollie as high on shorter boards than I was able to on that one.
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Not exactly 14.75 but really close. If you're looking for a longer WB on a 8.5 this one might be for you --- 8.5 x 32.6 x 14.69
 https://www.thereskateboards.com/product-page/night-garden-chandler-pro-8-5

I haven’t measured it in person myself but I believe the common consensus is that this is the same shape, just put at 69 as a joke. Not sure if anyone can confirm or disprove this?

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1824 on: January 26, 2023, 03:28:33 PM »
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I REALLY wish DLX would make something with a 14.75 - 15in wb and 8.3 - 8.4in wide. My long and slender body craves a long and slender board.
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They have an 8.5 14.75 that drops from time to time. Most recently I think There used it on chandlers pro model. It’s a really good shape. As a fellow tall person I can confirm it’s great. Honestly want to get another one because I’ve never been able to ollie as high on shorter boards than I was able to on that one.
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Not exactly 14.75 but really close. If you're looking for a longer WB on a 8.5 this one might be for you --- 8.5 x 32.6 x 14.69
 https://www.thereskateboards.com/product-page/night-garden-chandler-pro-8-5
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I haven’t measured it in person myself but I believe the common consensus is that this is the same shape, just put at 69 as a joke. Not sure if anyone can confirm or disprove this?


I haven't seen one so don't know.



I REALLY wish DLX would make something with a 14.75 - 15in wb and 8.3 - 8.4in wide. My long and slender body craves a long and slender board.


This one was probably closest to what you were after, which I still have which was 8.43 x 32.57 with 14.75 wb

Real Brock Prowler







They have one that’s 14.75” too but I haven’t seen those in years. I had one Real deck in that shape and quite liked it.


The 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.75 wb is still being made, the current version is the Real Van Vark Volcanic deck, as per info below:

https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-2022/




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« Reply #1825 on: January 28, 2023, 08:42:24 AM »
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I REALLY wish DLX would make something with a 14.75 - 15in wb and 8.3 - 8.4in wide. My long and slender body craves a long and slender board.
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They have an 8.5 14.75 that drops from time to time. Most recently I think There used it on chandlers pro model. It’s a really good shape. As a fellow tall person I can confirm it’s great. Honestly want to get another one because I’ve never been able to ollie as high on shorter boards than I was able to on that one.
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Not exactly 14.75 but really close. If you're looking for a longer WB on a 8.5 this one might be for you --- 8.5 x 32.6 x 14.69
 https://www.thereskateboards.com/product-page/night-garden-chandler-pro-8-5
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I haven’t measured it in person myself but I believe the common consensus is that this is the same shape, just put at 69 as a joke. Not sure if anyone can confirm or disprove this?

It is called the Unity shape, which makes me think it's probably a new shape and not the old 8.5" with 14.75" wb but I can't confirm as I don't have the There board despite really wanting one. I think I might still have my old Real 8.5" with 14.75" wb around. If I'll ever get the Unity shape, I can compare the two.

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« Reply #1826 on: January 28, 2023, 04:58:28 PM »
Just ordered the 8.3 krooked true fit from orchard. Gonna see how it works out

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« Reply #1827 on: January 29, 2023, 10:22:02 AM »
shapes are good but please make more 8.125's!It's always a struggle to get them.

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« Reply #1828 on: January 29, 2023, 11:23:08 AM »
shapes are good but please make more 8.125's!It's always a struggle to get them.
They've got 2 8.125s in the line pretty much always The first is the 8.125 with the 14.25wb and it used to be on the Black Eagle but is now on the Green Krooked Style Team graphic. The other is the 8.125 with the 14wb and that is on the Red Oval graphic. Those shapes can also be found on other graphics but for now they are reliably on those 2/3 I mentioned.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1829 on: January 29, 2023, 05:11:35 PM »
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shapes are good but please make more 8.125's!It's always a struggle to get them.
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They've got 2 8.125s in the line pretty much always The first is the 8.125 with the 14.25wb and it used to be on the Black Eagle but is now on the Green Krooked Style Team graphic. The other is the 8.125 with the 14wb and that is on the Red Oval graphic. Those shapes can also be found on other graphics but for now they are reliably on those 2/3 I mentioned.


I see a lot around, both as said in catalogs and in shops.

Maybe it is more a case of where someone is looking doesn't have them - check with your local, then check online, but at a glance there are plenty around, both in US and most other countries from what I can see of the main online shops.


I know people had been asking more for the shorter ones and didn't like the red Real logo before, but quite simply, if you want the shape, you can always remove / paint over the graphic if you don't like it.  Not that hard really.


From Fall 22

Krooked had two 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb in the last catalog, a Sebo and a Cromer board.

Real also had two 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb in the last catalog, an Ishod and a Chima board.


Antihero always has the black eagle 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb as mentioned.






Real just put up their Spring 23 Drop 1 catalog, which has two of the shorter ones in it too, a new one for Ishod and the Real logo in red:


https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-2023/








Any of those seem like a good one for you?


Gone since 1988.  I talk too much about skateboards.  Sorry.