DLX Shapes

[LebowskisRug]

You could check out Ben Degros' thorough review of that setup.

[Xen]

Any of you guys ride Thunders on the Manderson, or is it more common to find Indys and Aces set up on this?  Thinking of picking one up for the next deck, but curious how the Thunders pair with it.

As it's a 14.25" WB, either will work, just depends on if you like your WB a bit tighter or a bit relaxed.

[brownjenkin]

I would be so happy if DLX puts that 14" WB 8.25 Eagle shape in rotation. Being 31.75 on a short WB, I'm hoping it has at least a moderately-sized tail. Would love to get my Venture 5.6s on that thing

[z_tx]

I would be so happy if DLX puts that 14" WB 8.25 Eagle shape in rotation. Being 31.75 on a short WB, I'm hoping it has at least a moderately-sized tail. Would love to get my Venture 5.6s on that thing

Not sure how accurate it is, but tactics has it listed with a 6.625” tail. I ordered one to try out on my venture 5.6

[Sedition]

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I would be so happy if DLX puts that 14" WB 8.25 Eagle shape in rotation. Being 31.75 on a short WB, I'm hoping it has at least a moderately-sized tail. Would love to get my Venture 5.6s on that thing

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Not sure how accurate it is, but tactics has it listed with a 6.625” tail. I ordered one to try out on my venture 5.6

Tactics numbers should not be relied on.

[LebowskisRug]

Tactics is pretty inaccurate recently. They're just printing what is on the label or what they might have measured in the past.

[Kombuch-A-Holic]

Tactics is pretty inaccurate recently. They're just printing what is on the label or what they might have measured in the past.

Yup. Just got a Polar deck because I thought the dimensions sounded good. They were all wrong.

[Sedition]

Slightly off-topic, but somewhat related...can't remember if I posted this in this thread before, but...

If you like DLX shapes (assuming we all do here), and you're looking for a proper 8.5/14.5wb, take a hard look at the standard 8.5/14.5 Black Label deck (thumbhead, etc). Shape is very similar to the DLX 8.25/14.38, 8.75/14.62, etc.

[z_tx]

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I would be so happy if DLX puts that 14" WB 8.25 Eagle shape in rotation. Being 31.75 on a short WB, I'm hoping it has at least a moderately-sized tail. Would love to get my Venture 5.6s on that thing

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Not sure how accurate it is, but tactics has it listed with a 6.625” tail. I ordered one to try out on my venture 5.6

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Tactics numbers should not be relied on.

The deck just came in the mail .
Tail measures  6.5625
Nose measures 6.9375
Length is 31.5

[brownjenkin]

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I would be so happy if DLX puts that 14" WB 8.25 Eagle shape in rotation. Being 31.75 on a short WB, I'm hoping it has at least a moderately-sized tail. Would love to get my Venture 5.6s on that thing

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Not sure how accurate it is, but tactics has it listed with a 6.625” tail. I ordered one to try out on my venture 5.6

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Tactics numbers should not be relied on.

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The deck just came in the mail .
Tail measures  6.5625
Nose measures 6.9375
Length is 31.5

I like the sounds of this. Thanks!

Might end up being an Indy job for me though. I currently have Indy 139s on an 8.25 x 31.5 x 14 Palace with a 6.54 tail and it skates like a dream.

[MalHuis]

Yo.
Just came off the 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.5 and loved the shape. Probs my vanilla shape for af55s.

Went to the shop and put another 8.38 next to another dlx krooked 8.5 x 32.18 x 14.38 which was ver similar, to my dismay after setting it up the dims are very close to each other but the shape feels way different, defs kinda disappointed, the tail feels massive vs the 8.38. but will get used to it im sure.

My question is to anyone that knows the shape, what is the difference between the 8.5x32.18x14.38 vs. 8.5x32.25x14.38?
Is there a massive difference?

[LebowskisRug]

The first is the 8.5 Full SE which is shorter and has bigger, fuller kicks. The other one has very rounded kicks.

Neither will feel like that 8.38, which I really like. I've had the 8.5 non full shape and wasn't a fan the nose is like 3/8" longer and the tail is almost 1/4" longer. Felt clunky.

That DLX 8.38 "Dreamer" shape is the one you had and available from Baker, DGK, and quite a few others.

[Thebird]

Curious about this dreamer shape.  I currently have an 8.5 full se which I love, but this one caught my attention (I aas thinking about a Manderson for the next deck).  Other than the 14.5 wb, how does the Dteamer compare to the 8.5 full se?

[Mbrimson88]

The "Dreamer shape" is the normal 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb, way more normal (almost pointy) shape, especially in the tail which is a bit shorter than some of the others too, with the offset in overall length taking in the longer wheelbase.

If you prefer wider kicks, especially tails, it might be a little different, not necessarily bad, but some people don't like my usual board when coming from those blunt full kicks on the other shape options, Full SE in particular.

I had a number of the 8.38 Full SE and similar boards to compare them to and although not greatly different in overall dimensions, they definitely have the two ends of the scale covered.


My go to nowdays is that normal 8.38 shape for more all round skating and the 8.5 BBS board for a slightly bigger board for transition / setup with bigger wheels - same as @Sedition said, which is on a wide range of brands all on BBS boards that come in around the 8.5 x 32.5 (listed as 32.3 to 32.6 measurements and just 32 even for Baker, but all still the same shape) with 14.5 wb and to me what are pretty much perfectly, slightly longer but nice big round kicks.

Just got a couple of the Black Label 8.5 on clearance, so pretty happy with those too, along with a few more normal 8.38 also on clearance, so I am set for a while now.

[LebowskisRug]

The 8.38 Dreamer shape is the olive Eagle and all DLX with that dimensions. It skates a lot more nimble than you'd think a board that long would. I especially like the tail. The DLX ones seem steeper than the Baker by a tad so I'd wager Baker asked for those ones out of the stack.

I skated a friends 8.5 BBS twice recently and found it to not be that much heftier and really liked it too. I hated the 8.5x14.38 shape. Tom Knox skated the 8.5 when he was on Isle so you can do fast foot shit on that too.

[Mbrimson88]

Yep.

So little between them when putting deck bolts through both 14.5 wb holes, but I like the nimble feeling of the 8.38 for some things and the more solid feeling of the 8.5 for other things.

[MalHuis]

The first is the 8.5 Full SE which is shorter and has bigger, fuller kicks. The other one has very rounded kicks.

Neither will feel like that 8.38, which I really like. I've had the 8.5 non full shape and wasn't a fan the nose is like 3/8" longer and the tail is almost 1/4" longer. Felt clunky.

That DLX 8.38 "Dreamer" shape is the one you had and available from Baker, DGK, and quite a few others.

Exactly!! With the bigger tail it feels so much higher off the ground/steeper. Chunky as you said.

Ill power through the 8.5, maybe it'll mellow out a bit but I've finally found my vanilla dlx shape after many different tries.

DLX dreamer 8.38, af55, bones swiss, sf f4 54-52, jessup, Chefs kissss.

[FUBAR]

I’m skating the 8.3 full and freakin love it. First deck I’ve had that I seriously considered buying another one of right away (Mason Silva with the scorpion graphic) as they seem to be getting harder to find. I’m sure they will release this deck again and again tho so not too worried.

[Thebird]

Awesome.  Thanks for all of the info guys.  Definitely gonna try the dreamer for my next shape.  I've never stepped up to a 14.5 wb, so hopefully I can adapt.  Not too far from 14.38.

[LebowskisRug]

That deck isn't much bulkier. The only things I find harder on it is that when I'm tired it takes more effort to pop, I have to be further away from the ledge for a few things, and sometimes nollie front 180s at speed take more effort to rotate. I'm also 6 foot 3.

[Thebird]

Sick.  I'm 6'3" as well, so hopefully I'll adapt.  Funny you say that about nollie front 180s.  That is a trick that I have had forever, but I can't seem to lock it down - and it is different boards.  Some boards they will pop high and just rotate clean the full rotation, while on others I really have to try hard to get the full rotation - but for me the bigger boards seem to work better for this trick.

[Winternacht]

I ordered the Manderson...was in doubt going for the Green eagle (dreamer) but since i am coming off Hockey decks it will be a smoother transition i hope.

From my understanding the difference between those two is more blunt kicks and the wheelbase.

[Mbrimson88]

Do decks like the classic oval 8.25 real have the exact same specs than the 8.25 classic eagle?

Checked the specs of two shops and each shop said different specs. Even the specs of the exact same decks were off in those shops.

Are there that many different shapes of 8.25 real/ah/ krooked decks? Like slightly difference in tail length or wheelbase.



What I like about brands like FA ; it’s always the exact same deck just with a different graphic.

The DLX thread is a good place for this post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.0

Quite simply, yes all the normal 8.25 sized boards are the same across the DLX range, that is anything from Real, Antihero and Krooked (as well as There and Unity now too), but it is different to the Twin shape, the Full SE shape or other new shorter specific shapes (Mis Registered Eagle), so there can easily be a few different board shapes in 8.25 in their range, up to four or five at last count.

Most likely the shop has measurements listed incorrectly or haven't specified which shape it is, but that normal 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb is more like 8.3 in width and wider than other stock 8.25 sized boards, when put on top of each other.

Normal:  8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb
Full SE: 8.25 x 32 with 14.25 wb
Twin: 8.25 x 31.8 with 14.33 wb
Real short version: 8.25 x 31.9 with 14 wb
AH short version: 8.25 x 31.5 with 14 wb


As to FA and most other brands, they usually have their own specific sizes too, possibly only one option on 8.25 decks, which would be used across various graphics and catalogs as most brands don't change up their shapes and sizes too often once they have them sorted.

I can't really think of too many other brands that have such an assortment of different sizes and shapes, but there are a few that have a short and a long version of the same widths, none as complex as DLX though.


I see more comments in the DLX sizes are always off thread, but this should cover it.

[Roisto]

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Do decks like the classic oval 8.25 real have the exact same specs than the 8.25 classic eagle?

Checked the specs of two shops and each shop said different specs. Even the specs of the exact same decks were off in those shops.

Are there that many different shapes of 8.25 real/ah/ krooked decks? Like slightly difference in tail length or wheelbase.



What I like about brands like FA ; it’s always the exact same deck just with a different graphic.

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The DLX thread is a good place for this post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.0

Quite simply, yes all the normal 8.25 sized boards are the same across the DLX range, that is anything from Real, Antihero and Krooked (as well as There and Unity now too), but it is different to the Twin shape, the Full SE shape or other new shorter specific shapes (Mis Registered Eagle), so there can easily be a few different board shapes in 8.25 in their range, up to four or five at last count.

Most likely the shop has measurements listed incorrectly or haven't specified which shape it is, but that normal 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb is more like 8.3 in width and wider than other stock 8.25 sized boards, when put on top of each other.

Normal:  8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb
Full SE: 8.25 x 32 with 14.25 wb
Twin: 8.25 x 31.8 with 14.33 wb
Real short version: 8.25 x 31.9 with 14 wb
AH short version: 8.25 x 31.5 with 14 wb


As to FA and most other brands, they usually have their own specific sizes too, possibly only one option on 8.25 decks, which would be used across various graphics and catalogs as most brands don't change up their shapes and sizes too often once they have them sorted.

I can't really think of too many other brands that have such an assortment of different sizes and shapes, but there are a few that have a short and a long version of the same widths, none as complex as DLX though.


I see more comments in the DLX sizes are always off thread, but this should cover it.

The 8.25” full (not SE) with a 14.5” wb has come back recently also. Some There decks at least have been on that shape.

[SlapMcKracken]

Thanks.

Anybody knows what the supreme decks in 2016 shapes were? Was it the same as an 8.25 eagle?

[Thebird]

Mbrimson88 and Lebowskisrug - do you guys personally prefer a 8.25 or 8.5 truck on the dreamer?  I typically run my trucks smaller than my decks - just wanted your opinions, as you seem pretty familiar with this shape.  Thanks

[pointandclick]

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Do decks like the classic oval 8.25 real have the exact same specs than the 8.25 classic eagle?

Checked the specs of two shops and each shop said different specs. Even the specs of the exact same decks were off in those shops.

Are there that many different shapes of 8.25 real/ah/ krooked decks? Like slightly difference in tail length or wheelbase.



What I like about brands like FA ; it’s always the exact same deck just with a different graphic.

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The DLX thread is a good place for this post:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.0

Quite simply, yes all the normal 8.25 sized boards are the same across the DLX range, that is anything from Real, Antihero and Krooked (as well as There and Unity now too), but it is different to the Twin shape, the Full SE shape or other new shorter specific shapes (Mis Registered Eagle), so there can easily be a few different board shapes in 8.25 in their range, up to four or five at last count.

Most likely the shop has measurements listed incorrectly or haven't specified which shape it is, but that normal 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb is more like 8.3 in width and wider than other stock 8.25 sized boards, when put on top of each other.

Normal:  8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb
Full SE: 8.25 x 32 with 14.25 wb
Twin: 8.25 x 31.8 with 14.33 wb
Mason Shape: 8.28 x 31.7 with 14.12 wb
Real short version: 8.25 x 31.9 with 14 wb
AH short version: 8.25 x 31.5 with 14 wb


As to FA and most other brands, they usually have their own specific sizes too, possibly only one option on 8.25 decks, which would be used across various graphics and catalogs as most brands don't change up their shapes and sizes too often once they have them sorted.

I can't really think of too many other brands that have such an assortment of different sizes and shapes, but there are a few that have a short and a long version of the same widths, none as complex as DLX though.


I see more comments in the DLX sizes are always off thread, but this should cover it.

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The 8.25” full (not SE) with a 14.5” wb has come back recently also. Some There decks at least have been on that shape.

[Mbrimson88]

Mbrimson88 and Lebowskisrug - do you guys personally prefer a 8.25 or 8.5 truck on the dreamer?  I typically run my trucks smaller than my decks - just wanted your opinions, as you seem pretty familiar with this shape.  Thanks

I always run 149s (8.5 width truck) with washers on the inside, so I can get the wheels to sit out as wide as I can, but they still sit under the board.  I do skate more transition than anything else, but still have exactly the same setup just with different wheel sizes for various things, eg Classic 56mm for bigger stuff and smaller Classic or worn down Conical Full wheels on the street / park / tech setups.


One of the guys I skate with who is predominantly a rail and ledge with transition skills skates the same everything only on 144 (8.25 width) trucks, which feels way too narrow for me, but works great for him.

[Mbrimson88]

The 8.25” full (not SE) with a 14.5” wb has come back recently also. Some There decks at least have been on that shape.

I remembered and had to go looking again:


https://www.thereskateboards.com/product-page/hi-james-8-25

8.25 x 32.2 x 14.5 (full)

James Pitonyak pro


Unity and There seem to have pick of anything in the DLX size and shape guide as well as their own special shapes and sizes, which is rad, given most of the other shapes are a bit more brand specific nowdays, but I know all three existing deck brands did the original Full shapes when they first came out.


Edit:


Seems not that long ago that board came out, but in looking back, it was from around June, so no wonder it was forgotten.

I saw an email from Tactics with the new There boards.

Some dimensions look like they are different from the usual DLX shapes, but it could just be the shop measuring things, eg the Marbie 8.5 x 32 with 14.375 wb.

https://www.tactics.com/there/marbie-growing-pains-85-skateboard-deck


One other thing I did notice was there is an 8.25 FULL shape, not Full SE, so the original one in there.  That is the board that is 8.25 x 32.2 with 14.5 wb and really good big blunt kicks, of which I had a few back when they came out.

https://www.tactics.com/there/kien-friends-825-full-shape-skateboard-deck

[Mbrimson88]

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https://www.realskateboards.com/fall-2022/


Real Drop 2 is out.

The 8.5 FULL is in this drop, the big one:  8.5 x 32.62 with 14.6 wb

Another 8.28 short board for those who are wanting that one.

An 8 Full SE and a couple of others.