Truck set-ups

[sadnocomply]

hey bois so i have a set of china titanium 144 indys still in the plastic, wondering if i should keep them or return them back to skatewarehouse. I have like 3 sets of trucks before I would have even busted these out haha it was an impulsive decision but my local sells them for $80 a pair and online I got them for $61 at skatewarehouse. It really was a no brainer, but I think I’m a venture guy now. Bobby’s part is the fuel to my fire in the morning for 8 months straight & prod and pj were some of my goats when I was little

[anon]

hey bois so i have a set of china titanium 144 indys still in the plastic, wondering if i should keep them or return them back to skatewarehouse. I have like 3 sets of trucks before I would have even busted these out haha it was an impulsive decision but my local sells them for $80 a pair and online I got them for $61 at skatewarehouse. It really was a no brainer, but I think I’m a venture guy now. Bobby’s part is the fuel to my fire in the morning for 8 months straight & prod and pj were some of my goats when I was little

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[sadnocomply]

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[Xen]

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Bobby's part literally stoked the Venture fire.

[Xen]

Is there a Thunder shortage no one is talking about? Did they do a 'shop-run that depleted inventory online or something? Very little in the way of 147s/148s out there compared to the normal, hollow this, hollow that, ti, teams, etc. Trying to track down some 147 TIs lights and nothing...

Even the 149 selection seems a bit low...maybe Venture took over the foundry for a bit with Indy going to China, then boosted Venture? 161s taking up all the metals?

[baustin]

Is there a Thunder shortage no one is talking about? Did they do a 'shop-run that depleted inventory online or something? Very little in the way of 147s/148s out there compared to the normal, hollow this, hollow that, ti, teames, etc. Trying to track down some 147 TIs lights and nothing...

Even the 149 selection seems a bit low...maybe Venture took over the foundry for a bit with Indy going to China, the boosted Venture? 161s taking up all the metals?

I've always thought Deluxe ran things pretty lean in general, but you must be onto something because the biggest online shops are often out of the exact trucks I go shopping for.

[Fred Gerwer Frank Gall]

Speaking of 161s, I'm yet to read a comprehensive review on here... anyone given these things a solid seeing to yet?

[Skatansfinest666]

Im curious about how you guys set your trucks up, special methods, preferences and all that nerdy stuff.
 
Here's mine:
Thunder 147's riding 8.1-825 and 54 wheels
-replacement 100a Thunder bushings
-Bottom washers left out
-Front truck Flush( edit:perhaps the smallest tad under now) with some wobble
-Back truck 1-2 threads showing edit: correction, back truck is now barely over flush, loosened it when It got colder
-risers

Seriously can't complain about this set-up in anyway, for me its perfect, loose up front for quick turns and tighter in back stabilises on landings and at high speeds. The hard bushing and loose front works really well for me, best of both worlds.

So quick question...do ventures stretch the wheelbase further or shorter than thunders?

[tzhangdox]

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Im curious about how you guys set your trucks up, special methods, preferences and all that nerdy stuff.
 
Here's mine:
Thunder 147's riding 8.1-825 and 54 wheels
-replacement 100a Thunder bushings
-Bottom washers left out
-Front truck Flush( edit:perhaps the smallest tad under now) with some wobble
-Back truck 1-2 threads showing edit: correction, back truck is now barely over flush, loosened it when It got colder
-risers

Seriously can't complain about this set-up in anyway, for me its perfect, loose up front for quick turns and tighter in back stabilises on landings and at high speeds. The hard bushing and loose front works really well for me, best of both worlds.

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So quick question...do ventures stretch the wheelbase further or shorter than thunders?

further

[Diocletian]

Speaking of 161s, I'm yet to read a comprehensive review on here... anyone given these things a solid seeing to yet?

I skated them for a month or so. It’s the Thunder experience that I was reminded of and I crossed them off my list. Quick turn at first and then not much after that. Can kinda feel carvy on flat but I’d still get bad wheelbite even with the 1/8” Thunder risers. I even had some aftermarket Venom conical shaped bushings that were harder than stock, like 94a with Bones flat washers.

At the indoor bowl they just didn’t perform well. Having to lift up my front truck frontside because they don’t have a geo/WB that allows you to keep all four wheels down and carve super deep. I guess they can work fine for low impact skaters who just cruise around and do slappies, but at such a wide size you’re better off with Indy if you want a more versatile truck.

I can see the appeal of Thunders for the tech/ledge/street skater because they are “sporty” for lack of a better term at how they perform but when it comes to transition/bowls they don’t perform at the level of Indy/Ace/Theeve.

[BMCsteve]

Is there a Thunder shortage no one is talking about? Did they do a 'shop-run that depleted inventory online or something? Very little in the way of 147s/148s out there compared to the normal, hollow this, hollow that, ti, teames, etc. Trying to track down some 147 TIs lights and nothing...

Even the 149 selection seems a bit low...maybe Venture took over the foundry for a bit with Indy going to China, the boosted Venture? 161s taking up all the metals?

149 polished titaniums are impossible to find

[Fred Gerwer Frank Gall]

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Speaking of 161s, I'm yet to read a comprehensive review on here... anyone given these things a solid seeing to yet?

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I skated them for a month or so. It’s the Thunder experience that I was reminded of and I crossed them off my list. Quick turn at first and then not much after that. Can kinda feel carvy on flat but I’d still get bad wheelbite even with the 1/8” Thunder risers. I even had some aftermarket Venom conical shaped bushings that were harder than stock, like 94a with Bones flat washers.

At the indoor bowl they just didn’t perform well. Having to lift up my front truck frontside because they don’t have a geo/WB that allows you to keep all four wheels down and carve super deep. I guess they can work fine for low impact skaters who just cruise around and do slappies, but at such a wide size you’re better off with Indy if you want a more versatile truck.

I can see the appeal of Thunders for the tech/ledge/street skater because they are “sporty” for lack of a better term at how they perform but when it comes to transition/bowls they don’t perform at the level of Indy/Ace/Theeve.

Yeah, I read your initial thoughts when you first posted  them. Was hoping some others had additional feedback. I'm in the camp that feels Thunders can be great in transition. Never had a problem carving both ways on 151s but I ride 90a bushings and keep them loose.

[Diocletian]

It sounds like you already know Thunders and like them? Grab some 161’s then, no need to wait for more reviews. Turn shouldn’t be much different than your 151’s, just more truck to grind.

[Xen]

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Is there a Thunder shortage no one is talking about? Did they do a 'shop-run that depleted inventory online or something? Very little in the way of 147s/148s out there compared to the normal, hollow this, hollow that, ti, teames, etc. Trying to track down some 147 TIs lights and nothing...

Even the 149 selection seems a bit low...maybe Venture took over the foundry for a bit with Indy going to China, the boosted Venture? 161s taking up all the metals?

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149 polished titaniums are impossible to find

SoCal seems to have the most Thunders of all the online shops...still odd that just about everyone is out of 147s.

Set of 149 Ti Polished Teams:
https://socalskateshop.com/Thunder-149-HI-Team-Polished-Titanium-Lights-Trucks.html

[Fred Gerwer Frank Gall]

I should. I was just hoping for some convincing. They are reportedly a little higher. I was curious if that would impact the turn... While my local was waiting to get 161s I got inpatient and copped some 151s instead. I'm not sure Greta would allow me another new set of trucks just yet.

[Diocletian]

161’s gotta be heavier it only makes sense. You should just get some if you can afford it, that’s the only way you’re going to sleep better. It’s how the madness works. Making you toss and turn wondering how that width and weight difference will make or break your session...

[Fred Gerwer Frank Gall]

But can the planet afford it?

My madness aint as mad as Greta. I'm good for now.

[munchbox]

gonna try thunder hangers on venture cast baseplates. dont know why they havent fixed the length of the stock baseplates yet, such an easy fix

[baustin]

gonna try thunder hangers on venture cast baseplates. dont know why they havent fixed the length of the stock baseplates yet, such an easy fix

Mixing baseplates and hangars for any reason other than making a board for a kid or it's all you got... you're conjuring up bad energy here bud just wax the ledge more

[anon]

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gonna try thunder hangers on venture cast baseplates. dont know why they havent fixed the length of the stock baseplates yet, such an easy fix

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Mixing baseplates and hangars for any reason other than making a board for a kid or it's all you got... you're conjuring up bad energy here bud just wax the ledge more

or chuck your thunders in the bin

[baustin]

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gonna try thunder hangers on venture cast baseplates. dont know why they havent fixed the length of the stock baseplates yet, such an easy fix

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Mixing baseplates and hangars for any reason other than making a board for a kid or it's all you got... you're conjuring up bad energy here bud just wax the ledge more

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or chuck your thunders in the bin

OR watch some Suciu, Ishod, Shane, or Gillette parts, to be instantly back on the KNOW CONTROL tip

[Lord Quas]

gonna be pullin' up on a Anti Hero Blue Meanie shape, 8.75x82.55 14.75WB. First, what fuckin' trucks do i get for this behemoth, never skated anything this big - i prefer Ace 44s as i float between 8.25/8.3.

Also, what brand of truck would be ideal to "shorten" the wheelbase? from what i understand (i'm a dumbass though) the geometry of some trucks can cause the effective wheelbase of some boards to shrink a bit, and im worried 14.75 might be too manly for me, even as a 6'3'' 200lbs dude.

[backinaction]

gonna be pullin' up on a Anti Hero Blue Meanie shape, 8.75x82.55 14.75WB. First, what fuckin' trucks do i get for this behemoth, never skated anything this big - i prefer Ace 44s as i float between 8.25/8.3.

Also, what brand of truck would be ideal to "shorten" the wheelbase? from what i understand (i'm a dumbass though) the geometry of some trucks can cause the effective wheelbase of some boards to shrink a bit, and im worried 14.75 might be too manly for me, even as a 6'3'' 200lbs dude.

I had that deck for a while and loved it.  I had it built with Indy 159s and that was the correct width for it - BUT - Indys have a little longer effective wheelbase than Ace.  Ace is coming out with an 8.75 truck this spring, but for now it may be better to run the current 55s on it.   It may hotrod a little, but that's your call as to whether you would prefer hotrod or a little longer wheelbase.

[Fred Gerwer Frank Gall]

gonna be pullin' up on a Anti Hero Blue Meanie shape, 8.75x82.55 14.75WB. First, what fuckin' trucks do i get for this behemoth, never skated anything this big - i prefer Ace 44s as i float between 8.25/8.3.

Also, what brand of truck would be ideal to "shorten" the wheelbase? from what i understand (i'm a dumbass though) the geometry of some trucks can cause the effective wheelbase of some boards to shrink a bit, and im worried 14.75 might be too manly for me, even as a 6'3'' 200lbs dude.

Ace 55s. My friend has that board with those trucks. Works real nice.

[chris.]

Bought a Blue Meanie and fresh Ace 55’s last wonder and I really loved that set-up.  Have since gone back down to smaller boards but I still rock my 55s on 8.5s.

[j....soy.....]

Yeah, anything shapes 55's, 44's are more or less just 148's.....

[sneakpeekmeek]

gonna try thunder hangers on venture cast baseplates. dont know why they havent fixed the length of the stock baseplates yet, such an easy fix

I kinda get why the baseplate is short. Whenever I was trying tailslides with ventures, the corner of the baseplate would catch onto the ledge and fuck me up. I don't have that same problem with thunders. You just gotta wax the side of the ledge more with thunders.

[tzhangdox]

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gonna try thunder hangers on venture cast baseplates. dont know why they havent fixed the length of the stock baseplates yet, such an easy fix

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I kinda get why the baseplate is short. Whenever I was trying tailslides with ventures, the corner of the baseplate would catch onto the ledge and fuck me up. I don't have that same problem with thunders. You just gotta wax the side of the ledge more with thunders.

I never noticed this, but after about a week your baseplate should be slightly rounded off with the corners not as pronounced and it should be okay.

[baustin]

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gonna try thunder hangers on venture cast baseplates. dont know why they havent fixed the length of the stock baseplates yet, such an easy fix

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I kinda get why the baseplate is short. Whenever I was trying tailslides with ventures, the corner of the baseplate would catch onto the ledge and fuck me up. I don't have that same problem with thunders. You just gotta wax the side of the ledge more with thunders.

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I never noticed this, but after about a week your baseplate should be slightly rounded off with the corners not as pronounced and it should be okay.

I've always thought the short Thunder baseplate to be an advantage on the chunkier or more rounded ledges. Lets you get more tail or nose up on the ledge and keeps from having the metal dig in and stop you from sliding. At skateparks though, it can be an annoyance without extra wax.

[Uncle Flea]

Switched to ventures from ace. Ive had like 3 real sessions and ive hit a few hills.

I made the right choice.
There just wasn't any 44s at my shop.
I got kicked down indys at home but im just not feeling them these days. The 139 i bought when i came back to the ledges are nice. Ill definitely ride them again soon but im really really feeling the ventures hi 5.6.

This is going to be my main truck i think. Maybe not in the bowl though.

The issue im having is the wheel base change is extreme. It looks like about half an inch. I feel it at the manny pad.

Who makes a 8.25 with a 14" wb