Truck set-ups

[rosemaryBB]

Just scooped the Worrest Ventures. 5.8. Been on Thunders for like 10 years, siting them up once my current deck dies

Give us an update when you get a couple sessions in, been waiting for a good breakdown. Also been meaning to say big-ups to you for the Tired Hands pic - best brewery out by a long shot.

[arrbee]

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Just scooped the Worrest Ventures. 5.8. Been on Thunders for like 10 years, setting them up once my current deck dies

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Give us an update when you get a couple sessions in, been waiting for a good breakdown. Also been meaning to say big-ups to you for the Tired Hands pic - best brewery out by a long shot.

Word will do. I think I’m gonna run the stock bushings for a few sessions too. I usually run bones mediums.

Love TH I feel a bit jaded I only live about 25 minutes from them. Used to hit them weekly but got a little burnt (and fat). Recently started getting back out there when they put out the ones I like. If you want beer trades let me know. Unless you are also close, or a PA resident. They do in state delivery now which was great.

[skatefresh]

Does it bother anyone else when they tighten their trucks exactly the same and one appears more tight because of the way the kingpin is machined?

[BMCsteve]

Does it bother anyone else when they tighten their trucks exactly the same and one appears more tight because of the way the kingpin is machined?

Yes, it absolutely does.  I was almost positive that I was the only person insane enough to care about something like that 

[skatefresh]

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Does it bother anyone else when they tighten their trucks exactly the same and one appears more tight because of the way the kingpin is machined?

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Yes, it absolutely does.  I was almost positive that I was the only person insane enough to care about something like that 

It always looks like one truck is more flush. Drives me crazy.. 🤷‍♂️

[j....soy.....]

What about axels not being uniform, one side longer than the other!

[Firebert]

What about axels not being uniform, one side longer than the other!

Don't you put that evil on me

[arrbee]

What about axels not being uniform, one side longer than the other!

This is the one that gets me, I like to have my axle nut flush with the threads sometimes you get a set that needs 2 washers on one side and 3 on the other on the inside of the wheel

[antiwaxxer]

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What about axels not being uniform, one side longer than the other!

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This is the one that gets me, I like to have my axle nut flush with the threads sometimes you get a set that needs 2 washers on one side and 3 on the other on the inside of the wheel

I ordered Thunder titanium trucks and they looked bent. So I put the hanger off and put it into a driller. Fixated the driller. And what do I see, the axle is not straight at all. The tip is moving sideways depicting a circle when you drill. I double checked the driller with a straight metal rod, which did not move sideways, no circling round.

Then I ordered several pairs of hollow lights to choose the most straight trucks from. With the hollows you can check quickly just looking through them, preferably from a one or two meters distance. The smaller the hole you see, the more bent they are.

I found the following on the net explaining how axle production puts out bent axles as a normal product, has to do with manufacturing processes.

from r/longboarding

I sent the crooked thunders back and kept the most straight ones. I bet other brands have bent axles as well. Not sure even if it's alright to fan the madness with this episode.

[arrbee]

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What about axels not being uniform, one side longer than the other!

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This is the one that gets me, I like to have my axle nut flush with the threads sometimes you get a set that needs 2 washers on one side and 3 on the other on the inside of the wheel

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I ordered Thunder titanium trucks and they looked bent. So I put the hanger off and put it into a driller. Fixated the driller. And what do I see, the axle is not straight at all. The tip is moving sideways depicting a circle when you drill. I double checked the driller with a straight metal rod, which did not move sideways, no circling round.

Then I ordered several pairs of hollow lights to choose the most straight trucks from. With the hollows you can check quickly just looking through them, preferably from a one or two meters distance. The smaller the hole you see, the more bent they are.

I found the following on the net explaining how axle production puts out bent axles as a normal product, has to do with manufacturing processes.

from r/longboarding

I sent the crooked thunders back and kept the most straight ones. I bet other brands have bent axles as well. Not sure even if it's alright to fan the madness with this episode.

I think you just ruined trucks for me, I will never find a set I am satisfied with after reading this

[antiwaxxer]

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What about axels not being uniform, one side longer than the other!

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This is the one that gets me, I like to have my axle nut flush with the threads sometimes you get a set that needs 2 washers on one side and 3 on the other on the inside of the wheel

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I ordered Thunder titanium trucks and they looked bent. So I put the hanger off and put it into a driller. Fixated the driller. And what do I see, the axle is not straight at all. The tip is moving sideways depicting a circle when you drill. I double checked the driller with a straight metal rod, which did not move sideways, no circling round.

Then I ordered several pairs of hollow lights to choose the most straight trucks from. With the hollows you can check quickly just looking through them, preferably from a one or two meters distance. The smaller the hole you see, the more bent they are.

I found the following on the net explaining how axle production puts out bent axles as a normal product, has to do with manufacturing processes.

from r/longboarding

I sent the crooked thunders back and kept the most straight ones. I bet other brands have bent axles as well. Not sure even if it's alright to fan the madness with this episode.

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I think you just ruined trucks for me, I will never find a set I am satisfied with after reading this

I am truly not happy about this and thought about keeping it a secret even. I was horrified at the sight of my brandnew titanium axles rotating. It stung. Before that I stared them down for days and measured them (you would need special equipment to successfully measure this small of differences as trucks are always bent on the bushing center as well, it's not easy) while waiting for my deck to arrive. Until I found the way with the driller and the horror was immeasurable.

I almost thought about taking my driller to a skateshop making a fool of myself, so no. The hollow lets you "measure" the bent quite well though and minimize the horror.

[j....soy.....]

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What about axels not being uniform, one side longer than the other!

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This is the one that gets me, I like to have my axle nut flush with the threads sometimes you get a set that needs 2 washers on one side and 3 on the other on the inside of the wheel

I'm blessed in that I power primo my flip tricks regularly and that even's things up good. 

[rob]

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What about axels not being uniform, one side longer than the other!

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This is the one that gets me, I like to have my axle nut flush with the threads sometimes you get a set that needs 2 washers on one side and 3 on the other on the inside of the wheel

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I'm blessed in that I power primo my flip tricks regularly and that even's things up good.

Nice I hope that works for me too cause mannnn oh mannn

I’m loving my 8-8.12 setup with some standard cast Indy 144 but the back truck has uneven axle so on one side the axle nut is flush but the other side there’s almost 2-3 threads like cmonnnnn now one side is gonna get mashed and needs re threading while the other side is just right

It’s so crazy to me for some reason my hate for Indy was how tippy they felt cause of the height but oddly they feel like a mid having 144 on an 8/8.12 and I Love it so much

And they’re full on cast height at 55mm but they feel like 53/52mm

[j....soy.....]

you guys see what Ben Degros posted?  Blasphemy.....he's prolly right, or even if he's not....there very well could be a case for letting those big ole nuts just hang out but.....I'm not havin it...

[moonordie]

Just tried Ace 55 on a 8.5
I hated it.

[cosmicgypsies]

the state of my axle nuts would send some of you into overdrive - multiple hammerings, supergluings and general fuckery thats probably detrimental to the life of the trucks 

[palelight]

Just tried Ace 55 on a 8.5
I hated it.

Was just thinking about this setup. What did you hate about it?

[arrbee]

the state of my axle nuts would send some of you into overdrive - multiple hammerings, supergluings and general fuckery thats probably detrimental to the life of the trucks 

I recently invested in one of those tools with the re threader and a pack of 50 axle nuts from SkateOne. It has made a world of difference, especially since the set of truck I just decommissioned had the hollow axle(found these stripped or got mangled far easier than solid). I was able to swap wheels, clean bearings so much easier knowing the nut would go back on. Previously I would ride wheels far to long and ride broken bearings cause I didn't feel like dealing with the one or two nuts I knew would be stripped.

[j....soy.....]

I bought a tap and die kit too to repair a kingpin I tried to hammer out (didn't understand cast vs. Forged at the time). Buying a bunch of spare nuts is a good idea.  I just bought a box of 7/8 shortys because I deserve it.....

[ballintoohard]

Anyone have an update on the Venture performance vs. marketing hype?

[BMCsteve]

Anyone have an update on the Venture performance vs. marketing hype?

Most stable trucks on the market, turn isn't as deep as Indy/Ace and not as quick as thunder but you get less wheel bite.  Very low kingpins if you do a lot of smith/feebles, great for ledges and manny pads but can still hold their own on transition.

that's about all you need to know

[arrbee]

Anyone have an update on the Venture performance vs. marketing hype?

Whats their marketing hype consist of? They have a sick team and their tag line is "the only trucks that matter"

They aren't making any claims to anything with that. I just setup some Bobby W. highs that I'm going to skate for the first time today after work. As far as I can see they look and feel like the ventures I rode in the early 2000's

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What about axels not being uniform, one side longer than the other!

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This is the one that gets me, I like to have my axle nut flush with the threads sometimes you get a set that needs 2 washers on one side and 3 on the other on the inside of the wheel

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I'm blessed in that I power primo my flip tricks regularly and that even's things up good.

This. I get the obsessing about equipment, I hate my setup, and it’s all fairly new. The tripping on manufacture imperfections, outside of extreme board warpage at time of purchase, has never really gotten to me. One of my favorite decks was a Bianca board and I’m pretty sure the truck holes were crooked.
I’m just gonna smash my setup into the ground a ton of times, it’ll all workout/come out in the wash. If you skate it long enough, it’ll wear in, in a way that works. People that skate super fast can’t fake the funk with contrived style. Skate your shit for along time and the madness starts to fall away.



I still switch my shit up doe

[ballintoohard]

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Anyone have an update on the Venture performance vs. marketing hype?

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Whats their marketing hype consist of? They have a sick team and their tag line is "the only trucks that matter"

They aren't making any claims to anything with that. I just setup some Bobby W. highs that I'm going to skate for the first time today after work. As far as I can see they look and feel like the ventures I rode in the early 2000's

They've put a lot of effort into getting reps to hand out free prod to local shops and plug the whole "we're still made in the USA" thing.

[tzhangdox]

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Just tried Ace 55 on a 8.5
I hated it.

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Was just thinking about this setup. What did you hate about it?

I did this too. A bit too heavy, threw off my flatground, and a lot of grinds felt a bit weird too. The one really noticeable upside was back 5050s on round rails, never missed haha. 44s still felt more natural to me on 8.5s.

[arrbee]

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Anyone have an update on the Venture performance vs. marketing hype?

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Whats their marketing hype consist of? They have a sick team and their tag line is "the only trucks that matter"

They aren't making any claims to anything with that. I just setup some Bobby W. highs that I'm going to skate for the first time today after work. As far as I can see they look and feel like the ventures I rode in the early 2000's

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They've put a lot of effort into getting reps to hand out free prod to local shops and plug the whole "we're still made in the USA" thing.

Just skated mine after 10 plus years of thunder and had a great session. Trucks felt stable. Reacted the way I wanted them too. Turned great. Significantly less wheel bite. If nothing else I feel like they aren’t doing enough. I’m sold. I’ll be on venture for the foreseeable

[tangar]

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Just tried Ace 55 on a 8.5
I hated it.

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Was just thinking about this setup. What did you hate about it?

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I did this too. A bit too heavy, threw off my flatground, and a lot of grinds felt a bit weird too. The one really noticeable upside was back 5050s on round rails, never missed haha. 44s still felt more natural to me on 8.5s.

I think it also depends on the deck. FA 8.5s are way more full than other 8.5s. I tried 159s on a bbs 8.5 Hockey and hated it. I just setup 55s on a FA 8.5 and I liked it a lot. Flip tricks worked fine, felt super stable and still surfy. My only gripe is the weight. My legs were tired after the sesh. As opposed to today, I skated a 8.38 FA on my venture 5.8s. It felt so stable at first it was weird. But after the grip tape broke in everything was working like normal. Even landed a couple crooked grinds that I have been struggling on for a long time. I skated way longer and harder than I did the other day on the 55 setup and my legs weren’t sore.

[cosmicgypsies]

^ congrats on the crooks, they've been elusive as fuck for me too but i've finally started getting a few.

[j....soy.....]

Every year I go on a crook campaign......

I had 44's on an 8.5 and felt they'd fit a a board a hair narrower ie. 8.38, even an 8.25. I have 55's set up on a shaped 9" board w. conicals and its sick....wide enough for the front but still crams into the back end of the board. 

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you guys see what Ben Degros posted?  Blasphemy.....he's prolly right, or even if he's not....there very well could be a case for letting those big ole nuts just hang out but.....I'm not havin it...

Didn’t see this? Which forum? I do enjoy his opinions, I don’t always agree, but it’s cool to hear the theory behind some setup ideas