Independent trucks and racist ideology

[ok boomer]

could see her on Gring King 2019

[BobbyPshew]

I know people get put out over Iron Crosses, but they're just trucks and there's no Iron Cross on the trucks, themselves.
It wasn't a great choice for a logo, but they only used it for aesthetic reasons, not idealogical ones.
If they changed the logo they've had since 1979, they'd lose so much brand identity.
Fausto, Blackhart and Eric Swenson weren't Nazis!
If you think they are, you're deluded.
If you don't like the logo, don't buy the stickers and softgoods. Simple.

[Bitter]

they're just trucks and there's no Iron Cross on the trucks, themselves.

[Lowcalcium]

The Independent Logo has always been so lame...but they make great trucks. Come up with a different logo and maybe chopper dudes and alt right dudes will stop wearing your shirts

[heckler]

I know people get put out over Iron Crosses, but they're just trucks and there's no Iron Cross on the trucks, themselves.
It wasn't a great choice for a logo, but they only used it for aesthetic reasons, not idealogical ones.
If they changed the logo they've had since 1979, they'd lose so much brand identity.
Fausto, Blackhart and Eric Swenson weren't Nazis!
If you think they are, you're deluded.
If you don't like the logo, don't buy the stickers and softgoods. Simple.

[David Lee Sloth]

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Fuck I didn't screen shot it but Breana commented about how they should get rid of the cross.
As far as I can tell the comment has been removed.

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Here you go...

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I'm probably taking someone's post but...

Who?

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Exactly. She's too new in the industry to try and shot call like that

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I agree, no one’s voice should matter in the industry until they’re 45 years old and completely out of touch.

Oh, and the word you’re looking for is “them.”
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The point is she's riding on their dime. Don't like it, quit. And ride for "them". Sorry, I'm not "hip" with the lingo

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Why shouldn’t an employee voice an opinion about a company they work with? Why does worker voice worry you? I’ll hazard a guess that you aren’t a successful company owner. You might be an employee. Why shouldn’t you be able to express an opinion about where you presumably work? (I’m guessing you).

The at best, sarcastic, ‘outlaw’ imagery, hasn’t aged well. Why does the notion of changing it bother people? What is the draw to the nazi-lite symbol? Why not just go full ‘swazi’?

Considering you left out that the "Indy Cross" is part of their brand identity of a company that's been successful for 30+ years now suggests you're not a successful company owner. The bigger point here is all these idiots now coming out to "prove" they're not racist by taking a swipe at soft targets.

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[COMMUNITYPACK]

This is all so mind boggling. NHS donates 100K to the ACLU which no other skate brand has done and people are still out with pitch forks. That seems like the exact opposite of a brand having racist ideology. Back when all that shit came to light with 1010 what did they do, booted him. They have a diverse team, support skating/shops, sponsor events, tours, etc but apparently have this racist agenda. Which stems from their logo which is in fact a Alissee Cross. Not an iron cross or a swastika but a cross that has been used for centuries. It's on the Pope's vestments. Give it a rest already. Shit Thunder trucks has crossed hammers and lighting bolts in their logo. Are we gonna start in on them next? I hope not cause they are a skateboard truck company just like the rest of them. All this hate is insane. Direct that shit at the establishment, police, government, but leave it out of skating. If you think Indy or any other skate brand is the enemy get your head checked. There's far worst things out there to get triggered over.

Palace is donating a million, and they don't have a racist symbol-esque logo, nor a history of racists wearing their products.

Just a history of dickheads.

To be fair, I didn't read the rest of your post and you might well have made some very good points.

[FreePepe]

When did skateboarders becomes so lame!?

For starters crosses have been used by many different groups for many different reason for a long time,  and the independent logo is not an iron cross! (it's rounded!)

https://cdn2.vectorstock.com/i/1000x1000/68/71/set-crosses-various-religious-symbols-vector-736871.jpg

It's the "canterbury cross" which most closely resembles the Independent logo!

Secondly, why is nobody concered that basically every skate company has bowed down to start kissing the boots of these black nazis!?

(Yeah I said it! and I want proof that george floyd's death had anything to do with race, I want proof of "systematic racism", and I want a reason why it's suddenly now ok for these thugs to go out and riot/steal/destroy/abuse/assault in the name of "black liberation"!?)

[FreePepe]

(also transgenderism is for child abusing faggots!)

[FreePepe]

(also OK Boomer is gross!)

[jakeumms]

Have a kook trashbag

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they're just trucks and there's no Iron Cross on the trucks, themselves.

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Questionable logos aside, who gave the okay for the design on those Joslin trucks? That logo "splash" looks disgusting and is reason enough not to buy them.

You don’t get it.  They’re iNdys, they’re supposed to look like 12 lbs of dogshit.

[euro tm]

it sucks that slap and skateboarding as a whole is getting infiltrated by ignorant people like the ones making accounts to post in this thread just to get a rise out of us. sad times

[FreePepe]

Take note of how jakeumms and euro tm didn't even begin to address anything I said!

Substanceless!

[FreePepe]

Who's life matters most, blacks or trans!?

[BobbyPshew]

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they're just trucks and there's no Iron Cross on the trucks, themselves.

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They're stickers, though, right?
Even if they're printed on, sand that shit of and ride.
Still the best trucks.

[FreePepe]

Can you feel how sterile this place is now!? (it's sad)

[David Lee Sloth]

Who's life matters most, blacks or trans!?

not sure. Is it better to be born Black or Trans?
Black. You don't have to tell your parents.

[figureitout]

Fuck the chest

[FreePepe]

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Who's life matters most, blacks or trans!?

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not sure. Is it better to be born Black or Trans?
Black. You don't have to tell your parents.

Will the lives of us normal white guys ever matter as much as the lives of the men who wear dresses and demand we play along with their fetishes and flop their dicks out in the change rooms where young girls get undressed!?

[BobbyPshew]

No lives matter, least of all my own.
No-one fucking "matters". Life's cheaper than it's ever been.
It's either all lives matter, or no lives matter, you choose, I have.

[FreePepe]

All Lives Matter.

[cucktard]

Have a kook trashbag

[cucktard]

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Who's life matters most, blacks or trans!?

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not sure. Is it better to be born Black or Trans?
Black. You don't have to tell your parents.

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Will the lives of us normal white guys ever matter as much as the lives of the men who wear dresses and demand we play along with their fetishes and flop their dicks out in the change rooms where young girls get undressed!?

Find a more convincing act.

This one has been done to death.

[FreePepe]

It gets repeated because it's true!

Do you wanna be forced to pretend that a man is a woman!?

Or let me put it another way, do you want the cops (who are apparently all nazis) to have the power to force you to deny a blatantly obvious day to day fact!?

And do you value a creepy mans creepy desire to flop his dick out where young girls get undressed (pedophillia) above females right to privacy, safety, and dignity!?

Cause it sounds like you do!??!??!?

(don't just call me a kook and then run away, let's duel this out like real men!)

[FreePepe]

Same goes for all of you little rats....

If you want debate something I'm saying, than let's debate it!?




If not.... shut you fucking mouth!

[FreePepe]

"We don't debate Nazis!"

"Or anybody else who'd rip our pathetic little masks off, spit on them a hundred times, rip them to shreads, and then incinerate them, leaving us exposed as that sloppy turds that we really are...."

[FreePepe]

They're killing skateboarding to appease pedophiles...

[cucktard]

By all means, continue this convo. We’ll be over here.

Um.

Watching your superior mental Kung-fu.

If we don’t comment, it’s probably because you’ve demolished our libtard convictions, and we are staring at our keyboards, whimpering softly like the cucks  we are.

[quarterpound]

free peepee is in the kook klux klan