Independent trucks and racist ideology

[Hefe43]

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God it makes me cringe to see how fucking infected by new wave "liberalism" skateboarding has become.

"Are you guys comfortable wearing Indy in trumps America??  waaaaah everything is racist guys"

You wanna boycott Indy until they change their logo now baby boy?  Start a hashtag.

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i own 50 pairs of indys but I'm not wearing the clothes anymore(haven't for years) no matter who is president. not cuz i care if someone else thinks its racist, im about to be 33 and just don't like the clothes anymore. id rather buy indy stickers and slap them on my deck. i am wearing a juilen stranger flying high shirt today tho but stranger + heroin = awesomeness

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What did you mean by "you guys?"  what group do you believe I was speaking for there?   

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i think he meant dumbasses

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Yeah heroin is super awesome and by "you guys" you meant "people who complain about people complaining" and I'm a dumbass.   

if i said stranger+ insulin=awesomeness would you not be such a pussy about it? its not a heroin plane its a diabetes fighting fighter plane. you cry about people crying about the indy logo but then i sarcastically say heroin is awesome and you get butt hurt. sounds a little hypocritical uncle fucky

[baby dick]

I DON'T LIKE CHANGE

jesus you guys get mad when someone even considers that something could be perceived as questionable haha. the logo could definitely be seen as racist, just by the imagery it's associated with. people who don't even know what a skateboard truck is might think it's Nazi imagery at a glance. majority of Americans don't know what the term "truck" even refers to, let alone know specific brand names. of course it's completely unintentional and the company has shown 0 signs of being actually racist. we all know Independent isn't really racist, so please calm down.

SLAP's average IQ is way too low to talk about anything other than skateboarding.

[Theme For A Jackal]

I think it comes from the biker image that the dudes were into at that time, but yeah i'm sure enough idiots are take it the wrong way, and tyr to wear it as some kind of ideological expression.

Has JT ever addressed the sketchy logos from his companies before? kinda weird, what up with that?

I mean where do you think the bikers got it from? Their original culture is a direct extension of the white supremacist movement.

[Spike Hawke]

We stock some tees and hoodys and non skaters who come in are almost guaranteed to mutter some shit about it being nazi. Happens on a daily basis

[perverted super otaku!]

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I think it comes from the biker image that the dudes were into at that time, but yeah i'm sure enough idiots are take it the wrong way, and tyr to wear it as some kind of ideological expression.

Has JT ever addressed the sketchy logos from his companies before? kinda weird, what up with that?

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I mean where do you think the bikers got it from? Their original culture is a direct extension of the white supremacist movement.

From my understanding the original "outlaw bikers" were WWII vets who  basically couldn't go back to normal life after, and adopted some Nazi gear as a sign of rebellion, same with the gay leather scene afaik, who also have some nazi/military imagery. I dont think either were based on the ideas of national socialism. I don't really care about the symbol one way or the other though, that being said.

[UserFame]

James Hetfield ( Metallica )

[tortfeasor]

this is kinda like when that pic came out of the ISIS dude rockin a Baker shirt.  So, following the logic of SLAP, BAKER = ISIS SUPPORTERS. 

or the time that guy who murdered his mom was arrested while wearing a DC(?) shirt.

[Huell Howser]

Why did i think this would have been one of Perverted Super Otaku's thread?


Anyway, the cross is clearly different from the one affiliated with nazis, if you went to a trump rally anywhere else i doubt you'd see any Indy garb, it just happens templeton is in huntington beach and theres a lot of places to buy Indy stuff in that area.

huntington beach has a lot more white supremacists than you would think. there is a ton of garbage people. mostly older fat punk guys riding around on beach cruisers with skrewdriver tattoos

[Level 60 Dwarf Paladin]

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And I'm not saying Indy is a racist company, I'm asking, and it seems like others are confirming, that the logo can be misinterpreted for something it's not. It's almost the perfect alt-right logo. "Independent," anti government, self reliant, with a tinge of mild racism in the cross.

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OMG INDY NEEDS TO TOTALLY REBRAND AND CHANGE THEIR LOGO NOW BECAUSE SOMEONE SOMEWHERE MIGHT ACCIDENTALLY LET THEIR POLITICAL BIAS CONFUSE THEM INTO THINKING THAT THEIR CROSS LOGO IS ALL 14/88 HITLER GAS EVERYONE AND KILL THE JEWS NAZI THEMED AND THIS IS REALLY SERIOUS STUFF AND WARRANTS IMMEDIATE CHANGE BECAUSE GOD FORBID SOMEONE GET THE WRONG IMPRESSION WE CAN'T LET THIS STUFF SLIDE GUYS IT'S TOTALLY IMPORTANT!!!!

Some of you have obviously been raised on so much political correctness, it's made your entire worldview based on finding new ways to be offended at every turn (or, to be a champion for those who aren't offended yet, but you're SURE they will be if they ever see that darned Indy logo!)

This shit's getting cornier by the minute.

It's hilarious how mad you are!  How much of your self image is wrapped up in a truck company? Seems like quite a bit.

[7 year old]

I derive most of my sense of self image from fkd bearings, personally.
things have been going poorly to say the least.

[Sk.A.T.A.N]

James Hetfield ( Metallica )

A friend of mine had a guitar that was customized to look like that Hetfield guitar when we was a kid (because he liked Metallica) and when he tried to sell it a couple years later he couldnt because everyone was calling him a racist and white supremacist.

[UserFame]

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James Hetfield ( Metallica )

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A friend of mine had a guitar that was customized to look like that Hetfield guitar when we was a kid (because he liked Metallica) and when he tried to sell it a couple years later he couldnt because everyone was calling him a racist and white supremacist.

ahahahah

Lemmy from Motorhead was a Nazi memorabilia colllector, he wasnt a Nazi, he just liked the imagery for some reason.

Lemmy was a huge influence on Metallica and Hetfield, well, just look at his beard in the Black Album era.

[Paco Supreme]

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Why did i think this would have been one of Perverted Super Otaku's thread?


Anyway, the cross is clearly different from the one affiliated with nazis, if you went to a trump rally anywhere else i doubt you'd see any Indy garb, it just happens templeton is in huntington beach and theres a lot of places to buy Indy stuff in that area.

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huntington beach has a lot more white supremacists than you would think. there is a ton of garbage people. mostly older fat punk guys riding around on beach cruisers with skrewdriver tattoos

This i'm aware of, what i meant was that in HB you can find a plethora of independent merch and you can find a fair amount of bigoted assholes, some of which may very well buy independent shirt/jackets/whatever because they see a cross displayed in a store front or something but if you took a look at a pro trump thing more inland you would find a lot less, if any independent things because there is less of a merge of the two cultures

[backinmyday]

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I don't worry about it but the reasoning I've heard is kind off goofy.


"It's not racist, it's because bikers used to wear Iron Crosses and bikers are gnarly!"

Ok, then why did bikers wear it?




It reminds me of this sandwich place that used to be around here called Chink's Steaks.

"It's not racist, it's just the owner's nickname because he had really slants eyes,"

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Bikers wore stuff for shock factor back in the "day" (60s and so on) and that included iron crosses,swastikas etc... nowadays most bikers want to look like Jason Jessee or what they see on Sons Of Anarchy

For some reason I thought he was talking about BMX haha.

Yeah, Hells Angels would do shit like make out back in the day for shock value, go through towns and just cause trouble. Biker's are such attention whores, I was literally telling this to my sister 2 hours ago. I ride and she asked me if some event was going down because a bunch of bikers are on the freeway driving regular. I explained to her that 75% of bikers are like the ones on South Park, they just want attention. I fucking hate, every couple weeks, seeing a goddamn video of a guy in a "funny" costume driving around with a go pro on his helmet just being so FUNNY. Fuck, I'm on one today.

[Francis Xavier]

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I don't worry about it but the reasoning I've heard is kind off goofy.


"It's not racist, it's because bikers used to wear Iron Crosses and bikers are gnarly!"

Ok, then why did bikers wear it?




It reminds me of this sandwich place that used to be around here called Chink's Steaks.

"It's not racist, it's just the owner's nickname because he had really slants eyes,"

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Bikers wore stuff for shock factor back in the "day" (60s and so on) and that included iron crosses,swastikas etc... nowadays most bikers want to look like Jason Jessee or what they see on Sons Of Anarchy

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For some reason I thought he was talking about BMX haha.

Yeah, Hells Angels would do shit like make out back in the day for shock value, go through towns and just cause trouble. Biker's are such attention whores, I was literally telling this to my sister 2 hours ago. I ride and she asked me if some event was going down because a bunch of bikers are on the freeway driving regular. I explained to her that 75% of bikers are like the ones on South Park, they just want attention. I fucking hate, every couple weeks, seeing a goddamn video of a guy in a "funny" costume driving around with a go pro on his helmet just being so FUNNY. Fuck, I'm on one today.

I'm in southern California where a lot of people demqnd attention to how cool they are, I feel you haha

[lampshade]

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I don't worry about it but the reasoning I've heard is kind off goofy.


"It's not racist, it's because bikers used to wear Iron Crosses and bikers are gnarly!"

Ok, then why did bikers wear it?




It reminds me of this sandwich place that used to be around here called Chink's Steaks.

"It's not racist, it's just the owner's nickname because he had really slants eyes,"

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Bikers wore stuff for shock factor back in the "day" (60s and so on) and that included iron crosses,swastikas etc... nowadays most bikers want to look like Jason Jessee or what they see on Sons Of Anarchy

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For some reason I thought he was talking about BMX haha.

Yeah, Hells Angels would do shit like make out back in the day for shock value, go through towns and just cause trouble. Biker's are such attention whores, I was literally telling this to my sister 2 hours ago. I ride and she asked me if some event was going down because a bunch of bikers are on the freeway driving regular. I explained to her that 75% of bikers are like the ones on South Park, they just want attention. I fucking hate, every couple weeks, seeing a goddamn video of a guy in a "funny" costume driving around with a go pro on his helmet just being so FUNNY. Fuck, I'm on one today.

Riding motorcycles is fun, but, "Biker culture" is lame. 

[violentpizza]

I heard the Spitfire flamehead guy say the N word

[NowhereInLife]

Can anyone confirm that if you have 3 threads showing on your indy kingpin's you are down with the brotherhood?

And just to be clear, I ride aces flush.

[ducky darnsworth]

I heard the Spitfire flamehead guy say the N word

[el chino]

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God it makes me cringe to see how fucking infected by new wave "liberalism" skateboarding has become.

"Are you guys comfortable wearing Indy in trumps America??  waaaaah everything is racist guys"

You wanna boycott Indy until they change their logo now baby boy?  Start a hashtag.

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i own 50 pairs of indys but I'm not wearing the clothes anymore(haven't for years) no matter who is president. not cuz i care if someone else thinks its racist, im about to be 33 and just don't like the clothes anymore. id rather buy indy stickers and slap them on my deck. i am wearing a juilen stranger flying high shirt today tho but stranger + heroin = awesomeness

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What did you mean by "you guys?"  what group do you believe I was speaking for there?   

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i think he meant dumbasses

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Yeah heroin is super awesome and by "you guys" you meant "people who complain about people complaining" and I'm a dumbass.   

its a thread about racism, he meant nigga

[Pretty Serious]

James Hetfield ( Metallica )

James on Indy, clearly. 
Put your hand up if you agree.

[Salty Lame Ass Poosey]

Shout out to frat boys with Indy shirts and flavor savers while shredding on a long board with tracker trucks

[Pavementi]

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is the spitfire logo too close to the KKK hoods? 

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this one is for sure

I can't stop laughing...

[Vert Reynolds]

Indy shirts & gear went through the same shit in the early 2000's. Thrasher is experiencing the same right now.
Marines, Middle School girls & Non Sk8ers are buying & sporting it Proud!!

Just walk into Hot Topic or even Target & they Have every cool Band SHirt, You could ever Want!

[Chavo]

The Independent cross, according to Jim Phillips, was based on the surfer's cross. The Pope story is likely fiction. Independent's second ad, in August 1978, featured a photo with their cross banner in the background, a full year before the June 18, 1979 Time magazine cover. The truth is that surfers in the '60s and skaters in the '70s were fascinated with Nazi imagery that was appropriated by Ed Roth or L.A. street gangs.

Here is a German World War I service medal (Prussian or WWI memorabilia was the modern equivalent of wearing a pre-fascist Skrewdriver shirt):


Surfer's cross:

[GeorgeHanson]

Hmmmmmmm can't see any Jews on the Indy team and they sponsor outspoken nazi legend Danny Way so the might be fascist.

[SodaJerk]

Hmmmmmmm can't see any Jews on the Indy team and they sponsor outspoken nazi legend Danny Way so the might be fascist.

Julian Stranger

[GeorgeHanson]

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Hmmmmmmm can't see any Jews on the Indy team and they sponsor outspoken nazi legend Danny Way so the might be fascist.

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Julian Stranger

Wrong!

http://independenttrucks.com/#team

Bet you're a holocaust denier, Sodajerk

[Atiba Applebum]

No ones mentioned88 footwear

[SodaJerk]

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Hmmmmmmm can't see any Jews on the Indy team and they sponsor outspoken nazi legend Danny Way so the might be fascist.

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Julian Stranger

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Wrong!

http://independenttrucks.com/#team

Bet you're a holocaust denier, Sodajerk

They've obviously listed him under his alias "Adam Dyet", for marketing purposes.