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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #360 on: October 03, 2021, 01:17:51 PM »
Thanks for the replies @bataaard @suckmadeck @Jordan Wiens

So I'd say step down to 26mm if that's even possible? If it isn't I'd say the lower the number the better

Couldn't find any decent looking fish smaller than 37, so definitely gonna grab the Opteka 37mm. just unsure of how many spacers it'll take. I'll be experimenting and will report back.

**experimenting later, cause the TM-700 just showed up with a bunch of scratches on the lens -_- buying stuff online is such a pain in the ass lmao
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #361 on: October 05, 2021, 06:59:48 AM »
Thanks for the replies @bataaard @suckmadeck @Jordan Wiens

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So I'd say step down to 26mm if that's even possible? If it isn't I'd say the lower the number the better
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Couldn't find any decent looking fish smaller than 37, so definitely gonna grab the Opteka 37mm. just unsure of how many spacers it'll take. I'll be experimenting and will report back.

**experimenting later, cause the TM-700 just showed up with a bunch of scratches on the lens -_- buying stuff online is such a pain in the ass lmao

Good luck dude!

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #362 on: October 10, 2021, 10:16:44 AM »
Been lurking here for quite awhile, basically set up a Slap account solely because of this thread haha.

So anyway, just set up an MK1 for my HPX but the quality difference is realllly noticeable compared to my Opteka (filming 720/60p). Everything is just way blurrier and grainier through the MK1. As far as I can tell I duplicated the Shane Aukland setup to a T, and the lens just got new front glass installed by Schneider themselves, so I can't imagine that's the culprit. Any advice?

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #363 on: October 10, 2021, 11:28:21 AM »
Any screenshots or side-by-sides with the Opteka?

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #364 on: October 10, 2021, 03:50:19 PM »
Any screenshots or side-by-sides with the Opteka?

Went out and got some more test footy today, so I'll try and upload that in the next few days alongside some 16:9 Opteka stuff.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #365 on: October 10, 2021, 06:23:01 PM »
Been lurking here for quite awhile, basically set up a Slap account solely because of this thread haha.

So anyway, just set up an MK1 for my HPX but the quality difference is realllly noticeable compared to my Opteka (filming 720/60p). Everything is just way blurrier and grainier through the MK1. As far as I can tell I duplicated the Shane Aukland setup to a T, and the lens just got new front glass installed by Schneider themselves, so I can't imagine that's the culprit. Any advice?
I don't mean to sidestep the conversation, but how much did Schneider charge to replace your front element?

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #366 on: October 10, 2021, 10:44:44 PM »
Been lurking here for quite awhile, basically set up a Slap account solely because of this thread haha.

So anyway, just set up an MK1 for my HPX but the quality difference is realllly noticeable compared to my Opteka (filming 720/60p). Everything is just way blurrier and grainier through the MK1. As far as I can tell I duplicated the Shane Aukland setup to a T, and the lens just got new front glass installed by Schneider themselves, so I can't imagine that's the culprit. Any advice?
could be the thickness of the stepup/filter youre using. distance from lens to lens is really crucial for focus on the mk1

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #367 on: October 11, 2021, 07:38:13 AM »
Been lurking here for quite awhile, basically set up a Slap account solely because of this thread haha.

So anyway, just set up an MK1 for my HPX but the quality difference is realllly noticeable compared to my Opteka (filming 720/60p). Everything is just way blurrier and grainier through the MK1. As far as I can tell I duplicated the Shane Aukland setup to a T, and the lens just got new front glass installed by Schneider themselves, so I can't imagine that's the culprit. Any advice?
i believe he mentioned that this setup only really works nicely on the HMC line of cameras

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #368 on: October 11, 2021, 08:55:00 AM »
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Been lurking here for quite awhile, basically set up a Slap account solely because of this thread haha.

So anyway, just set up an MK1 for my HPX but the quality difference is realllly noticeable compared to my Opteka (filming 720/60p). Everything is just way blurrier and grainier through the MK1. As far as I can tell I duplicated the Shane Aukland setup to a T, and the lens just got new front glass installed by Schneider themselves, so I can't imagine that's the culprit. Any advice?
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I don't mean to sidestep the conversation, but how much did Schneider charge to replace your front element?

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #369 on: October 11, 2021, 09:49:01 AM »
Here's some test footage, with an Opteka clip at the end for comparison. Please forgive the glare on the front blunt clips, that's the Tadashi filter, not the lens itself.


It's just really hit-or-miss, some of it looks pretty good and some of it (see: the crailslide) is doing this weird thing where every other frame is out of focus. I've been paying extra attention to camera settings related to how the clip comes out, but I still can't figure it out.

I don't mean to sidestep the conversation, but how much did Schneider charge to replace your front element?

Nah not at all, it was $295 for the glass, plus $150 labor. Would've rather saved myself a month of turnaround and just replaced it myself, but they insisted, lol. It kinda seemed like the front element I got was the last one they were sitting on in their shop, but I'm sure that will change when they get the MK1 back into production.


could be the thickness of the stepup/filter youre using. distance from lens to lens is really crucial for focus on the mk1

I've really only got about 1.5mm between the bayo ring and the camera threads, so just about the same as Shane's video, and the vig I'm getting in the raw footage before the zoom/crop in post looks pretty much exactly the same. I dunno, maybe I'm being too finicky about how it looks?
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #370 on: October 18, 2021, 05:09:43 AM »
it seems like your aperture is more open on the crailslide clip than on the other ones, then you need to be really precise with your focusing. try not to go under f5.6 with your fisheye.

the mk1 is softer than mk2s and optekas. it's quite old and has been designed for SD resolution. But it still looks better for skating than the other ones in my opinion.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #371 on: October 24, 2021, 12:24:47 PM »
it seems like your aperture is more open on the crailslide clip than on the other ones, then you need to be really precise with your focusing. try not to go under f5.6 with your fisheye.

Gooood call, everything I've shot since has been great-looking.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #372 on: October 26, 2021, 04:22:13 PM »


"Banquet" by Beltway (Eddie Gutierrez). HMC150 and a 58mm Opteka. I prefer the HPX over the HMC, but I really like the way this setup looks.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #373 on: October 28, 2021, 08:49:58 AM »


"Banquet" by Beltway (Eddie Gutierrez). HMC150 and a 58mm Opteka. I prefer the HPX over the HMC, but I really like the way this setup looks.

I absolutely love this setup and i'm so stoked at how many clips this dude is putting out with it. Insanely productive filmer and crew. Seems like at least one full length thing a year.
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #374 on: November 26, 2021, 10:42:42 AM »
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I just copped a Panasonic HDC-TM700, wanted something basic to shoot the homies with in 1080p60 that wasn't the phone.

It has a 46mm thread I believe. If I wanted to fuck around with trying to get some 4:3 fisheye clips, what Opteka/Kapkur should I cop?

I was thinking the 37mm one, with a 46->37mm step down ring. I figured stepping down to the smallest one would produce the most vig and get me closer to a 4:3 ratio with the least number of spacers, compared to grabbing the 43mm or even stepping up to a 58mm.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/673936-REG/Opteka_OPTSC37FE_37mm_0_3X_HD_Ultra.html

Obviously i don't expect anyone to have this exact setup, but is my line of thinking right?
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pretty certain this vid is with the 37mm aka the baby death
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it's the opteka 37mm
you also know on what camera?

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #375 on: November 30, 2021, 06:28:26 AM »
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I just copped a Panasonic HDC-TM700, wanted something basic to shoot the homies with in 1080p60 that wasn't the phone.

It has a 46mm thread I believe. If I wanted to fuck around with trying to get some 4:3 fisheye clips, what Opteka/Kapkur should I cop?

I was thinking the 37mm one, with a 46->37mm step down ring. I figured stepping down to the smallest one would produce the most vig and get me closer to a 4:3 ratio with the least number of spacers, compared to grabbing the 43mm or even stepping up to a 58mm.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/673936-REG/Opteka_OPTSC37FE_37mm_0_3X_HD_Ultra.html

Obviously i don't expect anyone to have this exact setup, but is my line of thinking right?
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pretty certain this vid is with the 37mm aka the baby death
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it's the opteka 37mm
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you also know on what camera?
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #376 on: November 30, 2021, 06:52:30 AM »
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #377 on: December 13, 2021, 12:07:36 PM »
i think this was brought up but can't quite find it,

what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?

thank you

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #378 on: December 13, 2021, 01:45:20 PM »
i think this was brought up but can't quite find it,

what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?

thank you

The sk8 rat solution was to grind down a 72mm spacer to half length and jb weld to the bayo. I did mine a bit differently. I bought an 82-72 step down and jb welded the bayo inside of the step down ring. Cheers!

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #379 on: December 13, 2021, 02:02:03 PM »
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i think this was brought up but can't quite find it,

what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?

thank you
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The sk8 rat solution was to grind down a 72mm spacer to half length and jb weld to the bayo. I did mine a bit differently. I bought an 82-72 step down and jb welded the bayo inside of the step down ring. Cheers!

would this damage your mk1? as i still intend on setting it on the vx1 as well.

thank you

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #380 on: December 13, 2021, 03:47:38 PM »
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i think this was brought up but can't quite find it,

what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?

thank you
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The sk8 rat solution was to grind down a 72mm spacer to half length and jb weld to the bayo. I did mine a bit differently. I bought an 82-72 step down and jb welded the bayo inside of the step down ring. Cheers!
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would this damage your mk1? as i still intend on setting it on the vx1 as well.

thank you

Yeah once you do this, you can no longer use the bayo on your mk1. I'd recommend buying another mk1 bayo so you can swap them out.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #381 on: December 20, 2021, 02:12:25 PM »
Guys what about hpx and mk2?

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #382 on: December 20, 2021, 03:46:55 PM »
Guys what about hpx and mk2?
opteka lens is basically 1:1 replica of the mk2 but with different coatings (different flares). spaced out and cropped to 4:3 its lovely

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #383 on: January 15, 2022, 02:57:40 AM »


I filmed this with a GH5 and a Meike 6.5 for fisheye shots and Hvx200 for long lens shots.

Tom Penny is amazing.


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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #384 on: January 15, 2022, 03:54:03 AM »


i had this 58mm raynox lens laying around the house, so i ordered a step down and two spacer rings and put it on my hvx.
I'm not so hyped on the vig but other than that am surprised by the outcome

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #385 on: January 17, 2022, 07:37:36 AM »


I filmed this with a GH5 and a Meike 6.5 for fisheye shots and Hvx200 for long lens shots.

Tom Penny is amazing.

Is this shot in anamorphic mode? Wondering how you got that amount of vig using the meike 6.5

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #386 on: January 17, 2022, 07:48:04 AM »
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I filmed this with a GH5 and a Meike 6.5 for fisheye shots and Hvx200 for long lens shots.

Tom Penny is amazing.
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Is this shot in anamorphic mode? Wondering how you got that amount of vig using the meike 6.5

Yes, I film in Anamorphic so I can use the whole sensor and film in 4:3 mode. Then I have to crop it. I like vig so for me it works.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #387 on: January 23, 2022, 01:08:54 PM »


GH5 4K/60p Anamorphic 4:3, Lecia 10-25mm and Rokinon 7.5mm Fisheye, RØDE VideoMicro
Uploaded to YouTube in ProRes HQ

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #388 on: January 23, 2022, 02:25:41 PM »




Shot on HPX170 + Opteka 58mm fisheye with 1 spacer. Tried to make the vig VX1/MK1-esque

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #389 on: January 23, 2022, 03:11:31 PM »




Shot on HPX170 + Opteka 58mm fisheye with 1 spacer. Tried to make the vig VX1/MK1-esque

Shameless plug: https://www.ngtvskateco.com/

We're selling boards. Clutch wood, fat cool trendy FA shape!!

Damn dude that set up looks solid! Wish I never got rid of my 58mm opteka now...