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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #420 on: April 14, 2022, 01:00:34 AM »
lurked this thread for a few months while figuring out the best option to make my set up work for 4:3. i filmed this edit for three weeks while testing out the meike 3.5mm on a panasonic af-100. the intro was filmed with trv-900 and the HD long lens is a hvx-200.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc66Ln2e1sk&feature=emb_title


Looking good! Also that backside 50-50 ender looks so insane!

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #421 on: April 14, 2022, 07:20:05 PM »
My buddy does 3D design and printing and has connections with aluminum manufacturers. He helped me design and make an HPX/MK1 bayoring over the last few months and they finally came in.




Includes a rubber spacer so the MK1 inner element won't scratch your HPX lens.


Cropped image.


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Footage:
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I'm really stoked how they came out. Works exactly how a bayoring should. As people have noted before, it's best to crop the image in post-production. You get much higher quality results than zooming in camera. Also, someone else said before that the MK1 has softer glass than the MK2 so the image isn't as sharp. I personally don't really notice or mind how it looks but I've had people DM me saying the footage looks like shit. It's all preference.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #422 on: April 21, 2022, 01:44:38 AM »

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #423 on: April 21, 2022, 06:07:37 AM »
Also, someone else said before that the MK1 has softer glass than the MK2 so the image isn't as sharp. I personally don't really notice or mind how it looks but I've had people DM me saying the footage looks like shit. It's all preference.

If you keep your aperture narrow (F5.6 and higher), the footage looks way more consistent. I also sharpen my fisheye footage just a tiny bit in post.

Been using the MK1/HPX setup since this past fall and I'm really happy with how most of the footage has come out. I have an edit coming out fairly soon so I'll throw it up in this thread. I've been using a homemade (Shane Auckland -style) adapter but I have one of your bayo ring adapters on the way because I'd like to not have to fuck with threads anymore.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #424 on: April 21, 2022, 08:19:42 AM »
Universal MK1 adapter came in, here's a little comparison:



Here are some screenshots if you want a closer look:
(if you right click -> copy image address -> paste into browser and remove the "l" before the .png at the end of the URL you can see the full HD res)


Definitely not ideal testing conditions, but when I've got some time I'll do a proper skating one - first impressions are pretty good!

Have you had any issues with shaky vig even with the image stabilizer off on the xa11? I ask because I have a canon g40 with an opteka and it looks great but the vig is a tiny bit shaky with the IS turned off, which is driving me crazy. Figured I would ask somebody with a similar canon camera before taking it to shop to see if I have a loose camera sensor or something.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #425 on: April 22, 2022, 05:28:03 PM »
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #426 on: April 27, 2022, 07:48:22 AM »
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lurked this thread for a few months while figuring out the best option to make my set up work for 4:3. i filmed this edit for three weeks while testing out the meike 3.5mm on a panasonic af-100. the intro was filmed with trv-900 and the HD long lens is a hvx-200.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc66Ln2e1sk&feature=emb_title
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Looking good! Also that backside 50-50 ender looks so insane!

That ender is a serious Tulsa banger! The back smith was beautiful too. Sick vid.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #428 on: May 02, 2022, 02:24:33 PM »

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #429 on: May 04, 2022, 11:10:51 AM »
My latest full-length. Shot on Canon XA20 with a screw-mount Mk 1. (edit: the first clip is actually from a different cam, DSLR and an unknown lens. but 95% of it is my setup.)

https://youtu.be/fFc3_10WNns

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #430 on: May 04, 2022, 02:29:25 PM »
@Burton Ernie @natenola forever and @P2PIMP (and that 80HD one) are all where I hoped this thread would get... just really good examples of street level dudes making good shit in 4:3 with affordable setups. you'd be nuts to choose a 20/25+ year old VX w/ tapes over this

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #431 on: May 27, 2022, 08:18:26 AM »
Found this youtube video of a meike 6.5 being used on a sony a6300 aka an APS-C sensor camera. I did a screen recording and cropped it to 4:3 and it looks great. Wonder if anyone is using this as a way cheaper alternative to the Canon 8-15. This lens paired with an 18-105 PZ lens would be a great setup for not too expensive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJkrXKREKM4

Heres a screenshot of it cropped to 4:3. I personally think it looks great and the vig is very sharp. Couldn't get the image to work so heres a link to the screenshot
https://ibb.co/HzJvMTP

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #432 on: May 27, 2022, 11:50:18 PM »
its got nice sharp vig for a mirrorless lens but its really not that wide. ive seen a couple people use it and only thing id want on another lens is that vignetting
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #433 on: June 02, 2022, 06:23:36 AM »
First edit in a series for my local shop, first full edit I've done with the HPX170/Mk1 setup.

https://youtu.be/I5R5nMAtE_g]https://youtu.be/I5R5nMAtE_g]https://youtu.be/I5R5nMAtE_g

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #434 on: June 23, 2022, 05:10:22 PM »
made an edit with some homies during my first week back living in washington. im really starting to like the look of the meike 3.5mm & panasonic af100.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j00Nksom5M

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #435 on: June 23, 2022, 08:26:42 PM »
made an edit with some homies during my first week back living in washington. im really starting to like the look of the meike 3.5mm & panasonic af100.
damn the af100 really is like a mirrorless hpx170. i have a homie who shoots long lens on an hpx but uses this cam with a speedbooster/canon 8-15mm as a budget xtreme setup. crazy you can get that for like half or less of an xtreme now.
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #436 on: June 24, 2022, 10:57:01 AM »
made an edit with some homies during my first week back living in washington. im really starting to like the look of the meike 3.5mm & panasonic af100.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j00Nksom5M

This looks awesome. And such a cheap setup!

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #437 on: June 24, 2022, 02:26:51 PM »
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made an edit with some homies during my first week back living in washington. im really starting to like the look of the meike 3.5mm & panasonic af100.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j00Nksom5M
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This looks awesome. And such a cheap setup!
all the Pano AF100's i saw were over $2000

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #438 on: June 24, 2022, 06:58:58 PM »
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made an edit with some homies during my first week back living in washington. im really starting to like the look of the meike 3.5mm & panasonic af100.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j00Nksom5M
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This looks awesome. And such a cheap setup!
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all the Pano AF100's i saw were over $2000

Where are you looking? Here's one for $600.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #439 on: June 25, 2022, 05:27:01 AM »
Does anyone use that meike 3.5mm on any non-Panasonic cams via an adapter? Will it only work on mirrorless? Looks really good, and cheap too.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #440 on: June 25, 2022, 10:02:23 AM »
Does anyone use that meike 3.5mm on any non-Panasonic cams via an adapter? Will it only work on mirrorless? Looks really good, and cheap too.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1542242-REG/venus_optics_ve428fe_laowa_4mm_f_2_8_fisheye.html

this one works on sony and other mirrorless, have to use apc-s or shoot in super35mm and then still crop in. its similar to the meike but a little softer vig. widest option you have for non mirrorless is going to be the 8-15mm from canon, possibly the peleng 8mm, if you can handle the flares.

reason the meike wont work on canon dslr's is called flange distance. the fisheye is so close to the sensor on mirrorless, and its designed for that distance. on dslr's there is a mirrorbox in the way creating more of a distance. adapters not only change the mount but create the perfect distance from lens to sensor too. if it was just any size, you wouldnt be able to focus properly, or at least not focus to infinity.
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #441 on: June 27, 2022, 08:16:20 AM »
Has anybody tried using the Sony 16-50 pz with clear image zoom mode? I guess it works by adding 2x digital zoom on top of your optical zoom range. So you would realistically have a 16-100 lens for under 100 bucks.
Curious how this looks compared to a 18-105

Saw this on YouTube of a test of it
https://youtu.be/otAz27u1tjw
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #442 on: June 30, 2022, 07:11:27 AM »
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32839581859.html

found the lens that vx fisheye sales is selling for $450 as a mk1 to dslr adapter
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #443 on: June 30, 2022, 07:21:21 AM »
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Does anyone use that meike 3.5mm on any non-Panasonic cams via an adapter? Will it only work on mirrorless? Looks really good, and cheap too.
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reason the meike wont work on canon dslr's is called flange distance. the fisheye is so close to the sensor on mirrorless, and its designed for that distance. on dslr's there is a mirrorbox in the way creating more of a distance. adapters not only change the mount but create the perfect distance from lens to sensor too. if it was just any size, you wouldnt be able to focus properly, or at least not focus to infinity.

that's that good info. thanks.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #444 on: June 30, 2022, 10:59:59 AM »
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Does anyone have a vig overlay and the time to send it to me? Would be really awesome and i'd be super grateful!
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LHKNicruVTe0hAVJuXg8LX7VwaNkMrlv/view?usp=sharing
Here's another one, you can also resize/position. This one you will probably need to soften it slightly or use some gaussian blur because its a bit too sharp but once you do so it will look good.

Thanks for sharing! I am just getting into filming and this thread has given me so much great insight, I love the communal information and vibes! My first couple of projects were 16:9 but now I'm extremely inspired to make this next edit 4:3. I'll share it at the end of the brutal Phoenix Summer when it's done, it's going to be all night HD 4:3 footage. :) Cheers Slap!

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #445 on: June 30, 2022, 08:47:25 PM »
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32839581859.html

found the lens that vx fisheye sales is selling for $450 as a mk1 to dslr adapter
bumping it to this page so no one else gets scammed
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #446 on: July 05, 2022, 02:55:59 AM »
Thanks for all the info provided here, guys. Some pretty rad setups here!

After a year of experiencing issues with the VX1 involving the general VX1 working issues when out filming and sorting repairs (and often enough very expensive prices for VX1s, which might turn up already broken - fun). I decided on a HD cam after my full length vid is done. I'll keep the VX1 for smaller projects, then.

I went with a Canon XF100 since it seemed tidy for the price and what came with it. It seems pretty decent from the test footy I shot of chasing my dog around, so I'm hoping to get some clips later at the park to fully test it out.

I did order one of those Sony mics, as this one was going cheap. I don't think it's going to turn up, though. Bugger.
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #447 on: July 07, 2022, 03:34:10 PM »
Thanks for all the info provided here, guys. Some pretty rad setups here!

After a year of experiencing issues with the VX1 involving the general VX1 working issues when out filming and sorting repairs (and often enough very expensive prices for VX1s, which might turn up already broken - fun). I decided on a HD cam after my full length vid is done. I'll keep the VX1 for smaller projects, then.

I went with a Canon XF100 since it seemed tidy for the price and what came with it. It seems pretty decent from the test footy I shot of chasing my dog around, so I'm hoping to get some clips later at the park to fully test it out.

I did order one of those Sony mics, as this one was going cheap. I don't think it's going to turn up, though. Bugger.

https://youtu.be/bC8QkxfySqE

this is XF200 MK1. whatever this guy is doing it looks sick. maybe hit them up
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #448 on: July 11, 2022, 02:07:27 PM »
Just dropped my new homies video !
Filmed with a GH5/meike 3,5mm and the HC-X1500 dropped on a 4:3 timeline
Enjoy ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj3krZZnoxc

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #449 on: July 12, 2022, 03:08:13 AM »
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Thanks for all the info provided here, guys. Some pretty rad setups here!

After a year of experiencing issues with the VX1 involving the general VX1 working issues when out filming and sorting repairs (and often enough very expensive prices for VX1s, which might turn up already broken - fun). I decided on a HD cam after my full length vid is done. I'll keep the VX1 for smaller projects, then.

I went with a Canon XF100 since it seemed tidy for the price and what came with it. It seems pretty decent from the test footy I shot of chasing my dog around, so I'm hoping to get some clips later at the park to fully test it out.

I did order one of those Sony mics, as this one was going cheap. I don't think it's going to turn up, though. Bugger.
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https://youtu.be/bC8QkxfySqE

this is XF200 MK1. whatever this guy is doing it looks sick. maybe hit them up

Yeah Nick is fairly local to me and I've been speaking to him about the XF series a fair bit, hoping to get mine back from repairs (one of the CF card slots had damaged pins, so hoping to get it done via Canon). It is a cool setup. I did test it with a Raymod I had and was quite surprised how well it looked.

I've got the Mk1 adapter as of today, which I'll test once I get the cam back.
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