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Skate Questions / Re: What are you trying to learn right now?
« Last post by Bupstop on Today at 12:19:59 PM »Front feebles, nollie kickflips, blunt spine transfers
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Shoes & Gear / Re: Venture 2020
« Last post by CarcassToss on Today at 12:18:53 PM »My Venture tops haven't disintegrated recently, which seemed common at the start of this thread. Maybe they changed when they moved to Mexico? The nice thing about them being a standard size is a billion brands are workable so worst case I blow out and pop Indy bushings in or something.
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USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER / Re: Sole Tech Sells To The Nidecker Group
« Last post by 323-BALM on Today at 12:15:20 PM »Nidecker has something do with the SWS factory in Dubai, of all places…shady euro dudes partnered with local snowboarders I mean heavily moneyed desert guys to make a bunch of skis and snowboards there. They push their manufacturing processes and location as superior…
I don’t know enough to know, but I have this rad powsurfer “shaped by Chris Christainson” that was made in Dubai.
Hoping Don Brown moves to Dubai, I guess.
I don’t know enough to know, but I have this rad powsurfer “shaped by Chris Christainson” that was made in Dubai.
Hoping Don Brown moves to Dubai, I guess.
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USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER / Re: Georgia Martin pro af
« Last post by ralf_ on Today at 12:14:46 PM »Expand QuoteReal dropped Tanner so Toy could have room in the team budget to make Georgia pro?!?Expand QuoteThen there's Tanner Van Vark type skill getting dropped for this...[close]
I feel like I’m on drugs all-of-a-sudden.[close]
Not everything is first order effects?
Toy could instead use their budget to pick up an actually good pro level skater in TVV?
It's a bigger picture discussion about a phenomenon across all teams?
I mean, you might be on drugs if that's hard to understand.
eat shit
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USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER / Re: Mark Hubbard
« Last post by Willie on Today at 12:09:56 PM »There was this SF Standard article last year but still the secretive stigma persists https://sfstandard.com/2023/01/23/the-killer-of-a-skateboarding-legend-went-unnamed-for-years-could-deaths-have-been-prevented/Expand QuoteCan the industry stop "hush-hush"ing that a shit ton of skaters are dying from fentanyl overdoses and actually warn them?
Monk OD'd.
Phelps OD'd.
Grosso OD'd.
Tell people this, that this shit will kill them and their friends that use them.[close]
It’s not just in skateboarding. People just don’t love to talk about that stuff. Basically any time the obituary of a younger person doesn’t have a throwaway line about cause of death, it’s drugs or suicide.
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USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER / Re: Georgia Martin pro af
« Last post by Lou Strux on Today at 12:06:49 PM »Lou on drugs: confirmed!Expand QuoteReal dropped Tanner so Toy could have room in the team budget to make Georgia pro?!?Expand QuoteThen there's Tanner Van Vark type skill getting dropped for this...[close]
I feel like I’m on drugs all-of-a-sudden.[close]
Not everything is first order effects?
Toy could instead use their budget to pick up an actually good pro level skater in TVV?
It's a bigger picture discussion about a phenomenon across all teams?
I mean, you might be on drugs if that's hard to understand.
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Shoes & Gear / Re: The Indy Thread
« Last post by Xen on Today at 12:06:30 PM »I think the older ML are orange? When they had the ML circle logo on the hanger; the newer ones with the star logo are white?
They're out there but you have to hunt for them (old stock)
https://www.longboarderlabs.com/product/tensor-trucks-atg-white-pivot-cups-set-of-2/
They're out there but you have to hunt for them (old stock)
https://www.longboarderlabs.com/product/tensor-trucks-atg-white-pivot-cups-set-of-2/
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USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER / Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Last post by 323-BALM on Today at 12:04:41 PM »Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe most successful version of the shoe wasn’t even his idea!! Steve Caballero should be front of the line when someone says, “Count your blessings.”
Didn’t know he was complaining on the Nine Club. Curious as to what his contract looks like. He’s certainly not uncomfortable.[close]
They cut his royalties per shoe in half (per someone at my local, never actually listened to the show)[close]
....
Seems right honestly
Duct tape along the top of the check to keep it consistent
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USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER / Re: Sole Tech Sells To The Nidecker Group
« Last post by buddy68 on Today at 12:00:38 PM »Skaters care about optics than running a successful business a tale as old as time
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHonestly, not that bad of an outcome.
1. Family owned company (even ridiculously wealthy) have more leeway for higher operating standards because they aren't beholden to "money line go up" anyone-owns-it public co's and it's their "family legacy" so they don't want shitty behavior attached to their name.
2. Not Private Equity that just squeezes the juice to eke out a 30% return in 2 years.
3. They run YES snowboards which is actually a decently respected snowboard brand. Think Burton / Gravis except hoping they don't go the way of Gravis lol
4. The brothers can actually do a kickflip[close]
Seeing as they are from snowsports, their legacy is actually not the best. Nidecker as a snowboard brand vanished 20 years ago. They have one of the bigger factories iirc but their brand work was a failure. YES is going the same route, although the founders are legends and the current team is stacked. But the whole identity, the style, it's just not good. They should be the Girl of snowboarding but they're more like Flip.[close]
Confused by your Nidecker comment. They absolutely still make boards. This group also owns Jones snowboards which are very popular in the snowboard community. Yes has merged with Lobster so no clue what that is going to look like.
Like others I have no idea what this means for skate shoes but Nidecker is a pretty successful ownership group.[close]
I have not seen a Nidecker board in the wild or an ad from them in at least 15 years. Merging YES and Lobster is such a misguided move and shows their lack of understanding of the current market. While both brands rank probably equally in terms of market share, they sit on opposite sides of the spectrum. Only YES boards I see are on 30+ weekend warriors who film bs 3s on the baby jump for the gram. And right next to that, on the ride-on Box, 13 year old wannabe-Fridges are doing Michael Jacksons for TikTok. Hyperbole alert obviously[close]
Your personal anecdotes don’t add up to the fact that they still sell boards. That stated being a Euro I would have thought you have seen more.I learned on a Yes Basic myself. Not on the brand anymore but Angry Snowboarder still gives lots of the Yes line high marks. Pretty sure one of the dudes who regularly competes in Natural Selection (Dustin Craven maybe?) rides them.
Weekend warriors are the bread and butter of the industry by the way. Because they have jobs and spend. Plus your criticism is now on style but again has nothing to do with the fact that the Nidecker brands make money. Whether you view them as cool or not is irrelevant.
Edit: I do agree that the Yes/Lobster merge seems awkward but my contrarian anecdote to yours would be I never see Lobster boards on my local.