Independent Trucks Mid

[pugmaster]

Pardon my ignorance but what are the benefits of a lower truck? Are they more stable or better for certain tricks? Thanks for any information.

To me, I prefer lower trucks due to "ghost pop", where you have to REALLY try hard to pop if you are used to lower trucks.  It is sort of like going from a very pleasant relationship with a wonderful person that is easy to get along with to a relationship with a completely bat shit crazy person BUT they are absolutely insane in bed (i.e., can turn very well).  The indy lows were the best of both worlds IMO.  I hope the indy mids are the equivalent of a highly educated woman with daddy issues. If that is the case, I will be very happy. I'll just get 50's instead of 52's or 53's

[Uncle Flea]

Those kingpins

[sketchyrider]

To me, I prefer lower trucks due to "ghost pop", where you have to REALLY try hard to pop if you are used to lower trucks.  It is sort of like going from a very pleasant relationship with a wonderful person that is easy to get along with to a relationship with a completely bat shit crazy person BUT they are absolutely insane in bed (i.e., can turn very well).  The indy lows were the best of both worlds IMO.  I hope the indy mids are the equivalent of a highly educated woman with daddy issues. If that is the case, I will be very happy. I'll just get 50's instead of 52's or 53's

word, this is my biggest problem with standard indys, they are so damn tall, but the forged ones extend the baseplate to like venture size which is lame to me. also i like bones spfs cause they are soo fast but the smallest they come in is 54  which makes the ghost pop worse until i wear em down.

[munchbox]

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To me, I prefer lower trucks due to "ghost pop", where you have to REALLY try hard to pop if you are used to lower trucks.  It is sort of like going from a very pleasant relationship with a wonderful person that is easy to get along with to a relationship with a completely bat shit crazy person BUT they are absolutely insane in bed (i.e., can turn very well).  The indy lows were the best of both worlds IMO.  I hope the indy mids are the equivalent of a highly educated woman with daddy issues. If that is the case, I will be very happy. I'll just get 50's instead of 52's or 53's

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word, this is my biggest problem with standard indys, they are so damn tall, but the forged ones extend the baseplate to like venture size which is lame to me. also i like bones spfs cause they are soo fast but the smallest they come in is 54  which makes the ghost pop worse until i wear em down.

indy forged extends the same as thunder cast, not venture

[sketchyrider]

ah thanks, i tried keeping up in the wheelbase comparison thread but it was hard.

either way these are on my radar cause ive been looking for something with an easier pop and im pretty stuck on indy's.

[kneebone]

These just popped up on the SoCal webshop, 159s already sold out

[mynameisnotjeff]

These just popped up on the SoCal webshop, 159s already sold out

https://socalskateshop.com/Independent-129mm-Mid-Skateboard-Trucks-Silver-75-Axle.html

129s for smaller boards

[Murge]

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These just popped up on the SoCal webshop, 159s already sold out

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https://socalskateshop.com/Independent-129mm-Mid-Skateboard-Trucks-Silver-75-Axle.html

129s for smaller boards

I’m waiting on those 144s

[Xen]

Quick side note, the size of the bottom bushing is that of the aftermarket bottom, so a tad shorter than standard/stocks.

It's actually closer to Ace low bottoms so threw those in along with the low tops and sleeved washers.

[jay_nev]

[Benchpress]

Man I must've been tripping but I swear a couple weeks I saw Reynolds post a picture of a set with no logo on the baseplate. Can't see it anywhere and every other set has the logo. Swear on my life I saw it.

[mynameisnotjeff]

Man I must've been tripping but I swear a couple weeks I saw Reynolds post a picture of a set with no logo on the baseplate. Can't see it anywhere and every other set has the logo. Swear on my life I saw it.

May have been the lighting/down the road updates....or they made some pairs just because they wanted to send them to their riders quickly and didn’t have time.

Edit: Does anyone know who’s got 159s at the moment

[stets]

Man I must've been tripping but I swear a couple weeks I saw Reynolds post a picture of a set with no logo on the baseplate. Can't see it anywhere and every other set has the logo. Swear on my life I saw it.

Yeah I saw those too! He took the post down in less than an hour though. I was hoping they were rolling them out with blank baseplates after I saw that.

[Bubblegum Tate]

[Xen]

After skating them for a bit, I set-up my ACE 44s, same height, lighter and turn better....no inverted pin but w/e

[Bubblegum Tate]

[switchfrontshuv]

After skating them for a bit, I set-up my ACE 44s, same height, lighter and turn better....no inverted pin but w/e

This is exactly what Ive been thinking since Indy announced these. Ace are the same height and have comparable wheelbase and (slightly worse if bushings arent completely fucked) turn.... Just my opinion because to me the only pro of Indys is extra 3mm of height and only con is they have shittier turn compared to Ace

[mynameisnotjeff]

On the NHS Site
https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/polished-mid-independent-skateboard-trucks

[backinaction]

Tactics:
https://www.tactics.com/independent/mid-inverted-kingpin-skateboard-trucks/polished-149

[Xen]

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After skating them for a bit, I set-up my ACE 44s, same height, lighter and turn better....no inverted pin but w/e

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This is exactly what Ive been thinking since Indy announced these. Ace are the same height and have comparable wheelbase and (slightly worse if bushings arent completely fucked) turn.... Just my opinion because to me the only pro of Indys is extra 3mm of height and only con is they have shittier turn compared to Ace

The TI Indys are arguably the best in their lineup...light and low...no inverted pin, but we've all lived without it (or have dabbled with the Krux pin) as it's not a must have feature. I'll still skate them, I just don't see the need for them (unless they stop making the lows). We're going to see hollows so that's cool but it might be nice to see cast plates/Ti hangers...tho I'm pretty sure you could fit the inverted hardware in the forged plate but it might limit the tightness able to be achieved as it's nested pretty deep in the cast plate to allow for pretty tight trucks.

[pops]

Just setup 159 standards and they feel real good.I,'m not too crazy about truck height and weight since I ride mostly tranny nowadays. And if the mids are heavier I don't see a point to change. 

[Xen]

[Bubblegum Tate]

Tactics:
https://www.tactics.com/independent/mid-inverted-kingpin-skateboard-trucks/polished-149

https://shop.atlasskateboarding.com/collections/all/products/independent-mid-trucks

https://img.skatewarehouse.com/cache/270/INMIDTR-SI-SI-1.jpg

[WideFeet]

I got a set and so far so good.
 
I asked about this in another thread, just to get more eyes on my problem here.


Having a problem with the bushings though. I can’t tighten them down as far as I like to. Either the kingpin ran out of threads, or it’s hitting the board. I’m on the heavier side (190lbs.) and ride my trucks medium. Had to throw some Indy Hard bushings in, which don’t give me the rebound and responsiveness I get out of the stock orange medium bushings.

Indy Hard bushings are 94a, thinking about getting these Doh-Doh bushings that are 92a, as I can’t find the Indy Medium- Hard bushings anywhere in my area right now.

Anyone have any advice?

Thanks in advance!

[Skrotum]

Hopefully they sell the inverted kingpin and  baseplate separately i would like to pair that kingpin & baseplate with titanium hangers.

[mynameisnotjeff]

Hopefully they sell the inverted kingpin and  baseplate separately i would like to pair that kingpin & baseplate with titanium hangers.

Someone correct me but if I’m correct Spring 2021. Which is around December to February. But we are in a shortage.

[ok boomer]

I'm starting to get tempted to try these. I never tried lows because I fear/hate change but maybe these will be sweet. 52MM tall sounds good. I don't like the look of the kingpin, but I am also 34 years into skating with a different kingpin so I imagine its just that I am not used to it.

[Murge]

Would putting the new baseplates and king pin on an existing Indy fuck up the geo?

I work at a machine shop and this thread has me wondering if I should buy the cast baseplates and machine them down to 52mm thick.

[backinaction]

Would putting the new baseplates and king pin on an existing Indy fuck up the geo?

I work at a machine shop and this thread has me wondering if I should buy the cast baseplates and machine them down to 52mm thick.

The baseplates aren't where they are getting the height decrease - it's in the hanger.   Machining down the cast baseplates would weaken them more than I would be comfortable with.
 

[fs1/2cab]

I got a set and so far so good.
 
I asked about this in another thread, just to get more eyes on my problem here.


Having a problem with the bushings though. I can’t tighten them down as far as I like to. Either the kingpin ran out of threads, or it’s hitting the board. I’m on the heavier side (190lbs.) and ride my trucks medium. Had to throw some Indy Hard bushings in, which don’t give me the rebound and responsiveness I get out of the stock orange medium bushings.

Indy Hard bushings are 94a, thinking about getting these Doh-Doh bushings that are 92a, as I can’t find the Indy Medium- Hard bushings anywhere in my area right now.

Anyone have any advice?

Thanks in advance!

Don't get Doh-Doh's. Back in the day I was similar weight as you and I tried every different Doh-Doh hardness. Never felt right to me personally, maybe different for you.

Since you already have the Indy hards, have you tried bottom stock bushing (90a) and on the top the hard one (94a). That's what I've been doing and I like it.