Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock

[conqueso]

No it’s literally nothing like mma. Majority of mma fighters in public are usually reserved and humble and would not need back up if an altercation would occur.
If these kids were skating black rock solo they probably would have listened to this man instead of disabling him for life.

[Abyss1]

No it’s literally nothing like mma. Majority of mma fighters in public are usually reserved and humble and would not need back up if an altercation would occur.
If these kids were skating black rock solo they probably would have listened to this man instead of disabling him for life.

who said it was, I said people have a weird fascination for violence.  also why do MMA cats act like the what they do is like tea ceremonies.  This MMA shit is nothing like traditional martial arts, and is why Bruce lee got shit

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Where do you think the ego to be able to behave like that comes from? Being gassed up and protected by the mag of course. Something in the culture out there is pretty foul and if were being honest if these were some brown kids nobody ever heard of theyd be on a hellride straight to prison

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This the same argument about violent music and video games.   That people wouldn't behave aggressively if these mediums didn't "display" or "glorify" violence

I think you have something correct about culture, but it isn't related to skateboarding and goes to the problem of america in general.  I mean UFC and MMA is one of the most discussed hobbies online these days...

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Not sure it's quite the same argument, as violence in music and video games is strictly make-believe. Skate media do show and to an extent exalt real-life confrontation.

At the same time I'm also not sure this is a product of that. Dela is full-grown. He's not doing what he learned in videos is he. He appears to act wildly stupid all of his own accord; I doubt he has footage on his mind. Some security guard's mojo acts up and it gets to you, honestly? For having your board chucked? Calm down man. Militant security guards are tragicomedy. Laugh at them if you must - plenty of skate media do. Then leave.

I dunno I've worked and skated around SF from 98-11 and got shit all the time so Im not sure why both sides get so heated.

[Jagr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsd0qpUmcwQ&ab_channel=links%2Cpics%2Candquotes

[Jagr]

To me, one of the most sickening parts is that they all just ran. No one stayed to make sure he got help when he was obviously fucked up.

[weregoingunion]

I dunno I've worked and skated around SF from 98-11 and got shit all the time so Im not sure why both sides get so heated.

exactly. it's not like it was their first time there. they've skated black rock before and have gotten kicked out. they know how it goes.

they just don't give a fuck and it's apparent through the videos and shit you hear they don't. the entitlement in these guys is insane. like posting their van up in people's driveways blasting music and leaving beer cans in front, causing the next crew to deal with the heat caused by these guys. bars are still kinda closed so now they can't be like wallflowers anymore, creeping on all the women at oldies nite or at any of those small ass bars that get so packed they just post up outside all night. jesus, what a shitty vibe whenever these guys were around.

in the original security footage, you can see jansen setting up the barricades and then they're taking them away. of course jansen would be pissed the 2nd or 3rd time around. bully shit. then they dip to mexico for a while til it blows over like some scary-ass hoebois. now dela's living in sac scott-free and jesse's still skating on the low. funny how jamal was supposedly the one that called the ambulance, then got wrapped up in some shit himself. where's he at now, florida? throw yonnie (moved to la), al (hiding in ftc basement) & joogy (pizza box) in the mix and that whole group is toxic as fuck. it's no wonder that crew/scene is falling apart. "arrive. raise hell. leave." while everyone else is left to deal with their shit afterwards.

i mean, they shoulda left at this point:


instead, they chose to do this:


https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/skateboard-attack-leaves-san-francisco-security-guard-with-brain-damage/2745/

[Painted Baby]

This has reached Lords of Chaos levels

[GoneWithTheSchwinn]

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Of all this, I am particularly interested, but not surprised, to find out that Thrasher owns GX whole cloth. Makes sense, when you consider that GX is becoming something of a skater streetwear brand right as Thrasher became a little too mainstream for some.

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They likely own Atlantic Drift outright as well

GX started on Slap and moved to Thrasher, they own the name. Not sure about Atlantic Drift since they are selling their own gear separately from Thrasher.

[mattchew]

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I dunno I've worked and skated around SF from 98-11 and got shit all the time so Im not sure why both sides get so heated.

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exactly. it's not like it was their first time there. they've skated black rock before and have gotten kicked out. they know how it goes.

they just don't give a fuck and it's apparent through the videos and shit you hear they don't. the entitlement in these guys is insane. like posting their van up in people's driveways blasting music and leaving beer cans in front, causing the next crew to deal with the heat caused by these guys. bars are still kinda closed so now they can't be like wallflowers anymore, creeping on all the women at oldies nite or at any of those small ass bars that get so packed they just post up outside all night. jesus, what a shitty vibe whenever these guys were around.

in the original security footage, you can see jansen setting up the barricades and then they're taking them away. of course jansen would be pissed the 2nd or 3rd time around. bully shit. then they dip to mexico for a while til it blows over like some scary-ass hoebois. now dela's living in sac scott-free and jesse's still skating on the low. funny how jamal was supposedly the one that called the ambulance, then got wrapped up in some shit himself. where's he at now, florida? throw yonnie (moved to la), al (hiding in ftc basement) & joogy (pizza box) in the mix and that whole group is toxic as fuck. it's no wonder that crew/scene is falling apart. "arrive. raise hell. leave." while everyone else is left to deal with their shit afterwards.

i mean, they shoulda left at this point:


instead, they chose to do this:


https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/skateboard-attack-leaves-san-francisco-security-guard-with-brain-damage/2745/

Ever since the yonnie shit has come to light I have been thinking about how basically the majority of the main GX crew is fucked:

Yonnie - abuser/rapist
Jamal -  abuser/rapist
Joogy - abuser/rapist
Al Davis - abuser/rapist
Dela - near deadly assault
Jesse - near deadly assault

Sucks.

[LonleySk8er15]

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Of all this, I am particularly interested, but not surprised, to find out that Thrasher owns GX whole cloth. Makes sense, when you consider that GX is becoming something of a skater streetwear brand right as Thrasher became a little too mainstream for some.

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They likely own Atlantic Drift outright as well

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GX started on Slap and moved to Thrasher, they own the name. Not sure about Atlantic Drift since they are selling their own gear separately from Thrasher.

theres two trademarks filed for GX1000. One is owned by Highspeed productions for "Entertainment services in the nature of a series of short shows featuring extreme sports distributed via various platforms across multiple forms of transmission media..." The other one is owned by GX1000 LLC for hardgoods like skateboards and such.

[Atiba Applebum]

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Of all this, I am particularly interested, but not surprised, to find out that Thrasher owns GX whole cloth. Makes sense, when you consider that GX is becoming something of a skater streetwear brand right as Thrasher became a little too mainstream for some.

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They likely own Atlantic Drift outright as well

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GX started on Slap and moved to Thrasher, they own the name. Not sure about Atlantic Drift since they are selling their own gear separately from Thrasher.

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theres two trademarks filed for GX1000. One is owned by Highspeed productions for "Entertainment services in the nature of a series of short shows featuring extreme sports distributed via various platforms across multiple forms of transmission media..." The other one is owned by GX1000 LLC for hardgoods like skateboards and such.

I’m sure it’s the same for AD which was Tony Vitello’s idea originally

[50 Lions]

No it’s literally nothing like mma. Majority of mma fighters in public are usually reserved and humble and would not need back up if an altercation would occur. If these kids were skating black rock solo they probably would have listened to this man instead of disabling him for life.

Pretty much all that needs to be said

[Punished Skateboards]

[duniwayRobber]

Dude in no way deserved any sort of injury from this, but suing the building owner seems like some bs. Can he not sue the actual people involved?

[Kanye Omari West]

That's absolutely wild and I'm sorry for that man. I hope he gets a check. I never got into the details of the situation but I can't see where any type of violence on this level is necessary in fending off security for the sake of skateboarding.

[Hinna]

judge should force him to be jansens psw bitch for life with an ankle bracelet that severs his foot if he tries to escape. make him clean up his piss and shit. or lock him up or send to work in a coal mine

[Vomit Lust]

I don’t speak legalese. How the hell does Donald Trump factor in to this shit?

[NoComply180]

I don’t speak legalese. How the hell does Donald Trump factor in to this shit?

probably owns or has a stake in the building or some business in it would be my guess.

Fuck GX.

[cky enthusiast]

damn.. i hope the real estate company that owns 555 cal isn’t affected

[Dark Knight]

Is it fucked up for me to have completely forgotten about this?  Shit just fades away these days.

[ColorWheelsGraphicsOut]

It's interesting to go back to the first few pages of this thread and see how much the tone of the discussion has shifted.

[Idk]

Brian Delatorre is a bitch for starting the physical confrontation and then running away.

[mushroom slice]

It's interesting to go back to the first few pages of this thread and see how much the tone of the discussion has shifted.

Even better is seeing  who said what in this thread
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115534.0

[CHONGO]

Damn. I forgot about this shit... Now makes me wonder what/how dan is doing. Can only wish him the best.

[HORSES]

Brian Delatorre is a bitch for starting the physical confrontation and then running away.

And then almost immediately fleeing the country.

[mushroom slice]

Wut
Does
Almost immediately fleeing country mean?
Did they leave or not? The key word is almost
Have you ever heard that bib dielan sing about tired wild horses?
I kinda always hated on Dylan but that song really is good.
I almost immediately felt like a horse

[Atiba Applebum]

Dude in no way deserved any sort of injury from this, but suing the building owner seems like some bs. Can he not sue the actual people involved?

Seems to be that they’re being held to account for not doing anything to address or stop Black Rock from being a skate spot even after repeated warnings or complaints.   

[Atiba Applebum]

Wut
Does
Almost immediately fleeing country mean?
Did they leave or not? The key word is almost
Have you ever heard that bib dielan sing about tired wild horses?
I kinda always hated on Dylan but that song really is good.
I almost immediately felt like a horse

Immediately fleeing the country - he ran to Mexico straight after the incident occurred

Almost immediately - took him and Dela  a day or so to leave the country

[mushroom slice]

Main question.  How you guys know all this anyway? When I look at it all I see some bad shit. No doubt. But also I see people saying things that are not actually true at all and if you read the whole damn thread( I did) you see it’s not so clear. Not from this threads point of viewZ and said with such authority that I wonder how do you know with such authority?
Even the jury was hung so why would slap ever be 100 about it either way? People are gonna disagree on who’s to blame.  Shit sucks. I feel for Dan. My old man had a traumatic brain injury so it’s not like I’m sympsizing with beating fools down. I know first hand what it is like to care for someone that isn’t all there. It’s not easy. I also watched the video and no one was beating fools in the head with skateboards. Looks like a buncha adults acted like kids and then someone got popped and when they went down they hit their head. Tons of grey area there. But also how tha fuck would I know? I’m
On the outside looking in.

[conqueso]

You dudes must not have read the thread. Guy just so happend to take his girl on a trip to turkey immediately after the incident when they were looking for who did it.

[fongool]

The tough part about his suit against his employer is that he was almost certainly operating outside the scope of his responsibility when the altercation occured. Very likely that his directive in this situation was to verbally request for the skaters to leave the property and if that did not happen then he was to involve the police in the matter. His employment contract/training had to have specifically dictated that he not get involved in a verbal or physical altercation with anyone on the property and to deescalate any such situation in order to avoid exactly this scenario.