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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #450 on: May 17, 2021, 05:50:05 PM »
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Posted in the trucks thread, but anyone got the intel on when the baseplates (just the baseplates) are going to be available?
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NHS replied to me in January and said theyíd be available early March 2021. Itís now mid May lol. If you google ďindependent IKPĒ the Canadian NHS (and several other Canadian sites) already have them. No clue why the States havenít gotten them. I even reached out to a shop owner buddy and he hasnít heard anything about getting them in anytime soon.

I have seen them in Australia too, although they sold out almost instantly as there was only very limited stock.

No idea why they have not been released, but I thought only a few US places got them and also sold out super quickly.

Still quite a few available when searching, as said from Canada.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #451 on: May 17, 2021, 08:43:31 PM »
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Posted in the trucks thread, but anyone got the intel on when the baseplates (just the baseplates) are going to be available?
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NHS replied to me in January and said theyíd be available early March 2021. Itís now mid May lol. If you google ďindependent IKPĒ the Canadian NHS (and several other Canadian sites) already have them. No clue why the States havenít gotten them. I even reached out to a shop owner buddy and he hasnít heard anything about getting them in anytime soon.
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I have seen them in Australia too, although they sold out almost instantly as there was only very limited stock.

No idea why they have not been released, but I thought only a few US places got them and also sold out super quickly.

Still quite a few available when searching, as said from Canada.

Iíve been religiously searching for them daily since March, I havenít seen a single USA seller though. I want to throw Indy 144 hollow hangers on there so Iím at the point where Iíll buy Indy mids just for that reason.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #452 on: May 18, 2021, 08:11:10 AM »
The new bases are dropping soon. There are a lot of online shops that have Mids currently. I swear by the new kingpin.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #453 on: May 18, 2021, 10:39:46 AM »
The new bases are dropping soon. There are a lot of online shops that have Mids currently. I swear by the new kingpin.

The mids are out there for sure (wonder how much old stock vs. new)? The Tiago model dropped recently tho...I tried gleaning info from someone that would know and they've been tighter than a bullís asshole in fly season about them.

If I had to guess it's just manufacturing timing/runs, waves rather than monthly drops.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #454 on: May 18, 2021, 12:08:32 PM »
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The new bases are dropping soon. There are a lot of online shops that have Mids currently. I swear by the new kingpin.
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The mids are out there for sure (wonder how much old stock vs. new)? The Tiago model dropped recently tho...I tried gleaning info from someone that would know and they've been tighter than a bullís asshole in fly season about them.

If I had to guess it's just manufacturing timing/runs, waves rather than monthly drops.


Itís strange to me that Canada and UK shops got the base plates and the States havenít. It doesnít make much sense

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #455 on: May 18, 2021, 03:05:39 PM »
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The new bases are dropping soon. There are a lot of online shops that have Mids currently. I swear by the new kingpin.
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The mids are out there for sure (wonder how much old stock vs. new)? The Tiago model dropped recently tho...I tried gleaning info from someone that would know and they've been tighter than a bullís asshole in fly season about them.

If I had to guess it's just manufacturing timing/runs, waves rather than monthly drops.
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Itís strange to me that Canada and UK shops got the base plates and the States havenít. It doesnít make much sense

Import issues maybe?

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #456 on: May 19, 2021, 07:01:21 AM »

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #457 on: May 19, 2021, 07:10:43 AM »
They're up for sale on https://socalskateshop.com/Independent-Trucks-IKP-Baseplate-And-Kingpin.html


And 11 in stock.  Interesting they wouldn't come up on a search if you used "inverted" though.

I think others will be very happy you posted that too.  Gnar for the ones who cannot for you.





Iíve been religiously searching for them daily since March, I havenít seen a single USA seller though. I want to throw Indy 144 hollow hangers on there so Iím at the point where Iíll buy Indy mids just for that reason.

Anybody know when the Indy inverted kingpin plates are going to be available in the US? I've seen them in some Canada and UK online stores, but no formal announcements or anything.

I talk too much about skateboards.  Sorry.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #458 on: May 19, 2021, 07:34:51 AM »
@Firebert gnarred. Safe to assume that price is for a set of two, right?

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #459 on: May 19, 2021, 07:41:42 AM »
@Firebert gnarred. Safe to assume that price is for a set of two, right?
Yeah, otherwise they'd be more expensive than the whole set of mids

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #460 on: May 19, 2021, 07:57:22 AM »
If I put Indy tis on the inverted base plate. Will that put me at standard Indy height with reduced weight or forged plate height with a slight smaller wheelbase?

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #461 on: May 19, 2021, 11:06:14 AM »

And 11 in stock.  Interesting they wouldn't come up on a search if you used "inverted" though.

I think others will be very happy you posted that too.  Gnar for the ones who cannot for you.


Aaaand 9 in stock. Ordered two sets. Gonna try some 149 stage 8 hangers with a Kreper kingpin for my next setup and some 169 Ti stage 11 hangers with a Krux hollow downlow kingpin for a light wide curb/park setup.  Thanks for posting Firebert, and thanks for Gnaring the good man for us Mbrimson88!!
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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #462 on: May 19, 2021, 11:07:09 AM »
If I put Indy tis on the inverted base plate. Will that put me at standard Indy height with reduced weight or forged plate height with a slight smaller wheelbase?

I did this when I had the mids. If I remember correctly, all the height reduction was put into the hanger (and then they beefed up the hanger material to give better clearance for their shitty IKP design). The baseplates are standard cast height.

Mid plate + ti Hangers = 55 mm + reduced weight (use the krux pin even lighter)

Mid Hanger + Forged hollow plate = 51mm-ish truck - reduced weight

After skating the Mids, the new AF1s, I can't do heavy trucks. I'm just a bitch that way. If I was skating transition I would give no fucks about truck weight.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #463 on: May 19, 2021, 11:18:01 AM »
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If I put Indy tis on the inverted base plate. Will that put me at standard Indy height with reduced weight or forged plate height with a slight smaller wheelbase?
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I did this when I had the mids. If I remember correctly, all the height reduction was put into the hanger (and then they beefed up the hanger material to give better clearance for their shitty IKP design). The baseplates are standard cast height.

Mid plate + ti Hangers = 55 mm + reduced weight (use the krux pin even lighter)

Mid Hanger + Forged hollow plate = 51mm-ish truck - reduced weight

After skating the Mids, the new AF1s, I can't do heavy trucks. I'm just a bitch that way. If I was skating transition I would give no fucks about truck weight.

I feel you on this. AF1s are kinda hit or miss for me right now. Kinda thinking of setting up thunders  and brushing up on ledge tricks.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #464 on: May 19, 2021, 11:56:42 AM »
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If I put Indy tis on the inverted base plate. Will that put me at standard Indy height with reduced weight or forged plate height with a slight smaller wheelbase?
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I did this when I had the mids. If I remember correctly, all the height reduction was put into the hanger (and then they beefed up the hanger material to give better clearance for their shitty IKP design). The baseplates are standard cast height.

Mid plate + ti Hangers = 55 mm + reduced weight (use the krux pin even lighter)

Mid Hanger + Forged hollow plate = 51mm-ish truck - reduced weight

After skating the Mids, the new AF1s, I can't do heavy trucks. I'm just a bitch that way. If I was skating transition I would give no fucks about truck weight.
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I feel you on this. AF1s are kinda hit or miss for me right now. Kinda thinking of setting up thunders  and brushing up on ledge tricks.

Had them setup and did a slappy day, anything works for slappies and I even prefer heavier trucks for it...but I also flip and ledge and I just found the AF155s to be heavyass with an 8.5 and 54mm wheels...I dig the turn tho (was on 159 Indy before or 149 Tensor) and I'm just going throw on my Indy forged TI and keep the 159s on the curb crusher.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #465 on: May 23, 2021, 08:11:51 AM »
So I bought a pair of 139 mids and it seemed like the kingpin nut wasn't staying tightened, seemed like my one truck would loosen by itself (even after tightening it down enough so that it wouldn't normally loosen by itself).  Basically, I would see the kingpin nut at one position during the sesh, then look down at it, say, half an hour later, and it seemed to be in a totally different position, which bugged me out.

I chalked it up to a defective pair (?), and decided to try another pair- this time, 149 mids:

On this pair, to make sure nothing was just in my head, I marked a line in sharpie at "12 o' clock" on the kingpin nut after tightening the trucks enough to make sure the kingpin wouldn't (normally) loosen by itself .  Sure enough, by the end of the second session with the 149s, the line I marked was now at around "8 o' clock".  I did not touch the kingpin nut with a tool throughout the entire session.  The weird thing is, I'm not even sure if my truck feels any tighter/looser on the 149 with the kingpin nut rotating by itself.

Is this somehow normal?  Or did I just get really unlucky with two consecutive defective pairs?



Yeah i have this problem w one of my indy mid trucks. IT sucks so bad and random that a kingpin cant / wont stay on the set tightness. I remember trying inverted kingpins way back in grind kings and they sucked and to be honest these too.  Inverted kingpin is a joke. Dont waste your money on this shit.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #466 on: May 24, 2021, 11:07:13 AM »
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So I bought a pair of 139 mids and it seemed like the kingpin nut wasn't staying tightened, seemed like my one truck would loosen by itself (even after tightening it down enough so that it wouldn't normally loosen by itself).  Basically, I would see the kingpin nut at one position during the sesh, then look down at it, say, half an hour later, and it seemed to be in a totally different position, which bugged me out.

I chalked it up to a defective pair (?), and decided to try another pair- this time, 149 mids:

On this pair, to make sure nothing was just in my head, I marked a line in sharpie at "12 o' clock" on the kingpin nut after tightening the trucks enough to make sure the kingpin wouldn't (normally) loosen by itself .  Sure enough, by the end of the second session with the 149s, the line I marked was now at around "8 o' clock".  I did not touch the kingpin nut with a tool throughout the entire session.  The weird thing is, I'm not even sure if my truck feels any tighter/looser on the 149 with the kingpin nut rotating by itself.

Is this somehow normal?  Or did I just get really unlucky with two consecutive defective pairs?
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Yeah i have this problem w one of my indy mid trucks. IT sucks so bad and random that a kingpin cant / wont stay on the set tightness. I remember trying inverted kingpins way back in grind kings and they sucked and to be honest these too.  Inverted kingpin is a joke. Dont waste your money on this shit.

Thanks for the advice. I was going to get a pair out of curiosity but not this time. I will stay with my AF1s, they been working perfectly for me.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #467 on: May 24, 2021, 07:25:10 PM »
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So I bought a pair of 139 mids and it seemed like the kingpin nut wasn't staying tightened, seemed like my one truck would loosen by itself (even after tightening it down enough so that it wouldn't normally loosen by itself).  Basically, I would see the kingpin nut at one position during the sesh, then look down at it, say, half an hour later, and it seemed to be in a totally different position, which bugged me out.

I chalked it up to a defective pair (?), and decided to try another pair- this time, 149 mids:

On this pair, to make sure nothing was just in my head, I marked a line in sharpie at "12 o' clock" on the kingpin nut after tightening the trucks enough to make sure the kingpin wouldn't (normally) loosen by itself .  Sure enough, by the end of the second session with the 149s, the line I marked was now at around "8 o' clock".  I did not touch the kingpin nut with a tool throughout the entire session.  The weird thing is, I'm not even sure if my truck feels any tighter/looser on the 149 with the kingpin nut rotating by itself.

Is this somehow normal?  Or did I just get really unlucky with two consecutive defective pairs?
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Yeah i have this problem w one of my indy mid trucks. IT sucks so bad and random that a kingpin cant / wont stay on the set tightness. I remember trying inverted kingpins way back in grind kings and they sucked and to be honest these too.  Inverted kingpin is a joke. Dont waste your money on this shit.
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Thanks for the advice. I was going to get a pair out of curiosity but not this time. I will stay with my AF1s, they been working perfectly for me.

You have to try it out for yourself, illl never go back to regular kingpins. I laugh watching my friends try smith/feebles and scrape/ hang up on their kingpins.

I donít understand why every truck company doesnít utilize inverted kingpins. this isnít some kind of gimmick like a bottle opener or axle rethreaders, itís actually just a better design, plain and simple. Work smarter not harder, having to grind down your kingpin to break in trucks is ridiculous.
So many trucks these days have kingpins that will scape on the very first grind. It baffles me. Just get that kingpin out of the way!

I have hollow krux dlks in my Indy mids and I want to ride this setup for the rest of my life.
I went through 5 pairs of ace 44 classics before I got fed up with their excessively long kingpins (which always come loose btw).

The only minor downside is that I do have to retighten my back truck every few seshes. but this is not an issue, I keep an Allen key in my backpack, and just give it a quick turn before I start my sesh. It literally takes less than five seconds.

Iíll never go back to regular kingpins, anyone who isnít on inverted kingpins is living in the past, making every grind and truck stall harder than it needs to be.

I will say the Indy dlk sucks though, and so does the new krux one. The hollow krux kingpin is bomb, I also want to try grindking and creepers tho.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #468 on: May 24, 2021, 07:37:55 PM »
Iíve hung up on my AF1 king pins a few times last time I got to skate. Iím really debating on filing down the 1-2 threads sticking out.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #469 on: May 24, 2021, 07:45:21 PM »
Iíve hung up on my AF1 king pins a few times last time I got to skate. Iím really debating on filing down the 1-2 threads sticking out.

Ace trucks have a great turn because they have taller bushings, and in order to use taller bushings, they need a longer kingpin.

Ace = best turn in the game at the sacrifice of worst kingpin clearance in the game.


Iíve dremmeled threads off of all my pairs of aces, and even a few of my friends too.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #470 on: May 24, 2021, 08:09:12 PM »
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Iíve hung up on my AF1 king pins a few times last time I got to skate. Iím really debating on filing down the 1-2 threads sticking out.
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Ace trucks have a great turn because they have taller bushings, and in order to use taller bushings, they need a longer kingpin.

Ace = best turn in the game at the sacrifice of worst kingpin clearance in the game.


Iíve dremmeled threads off of all my pairs of aces, and even a few of my friends too.

I think you just talked me into it. Ha. I just need to make sure I donít want to loosen them more than what they are now. Ha

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #471 on: May 28, 2021, 12:29:13 PM »


Krux pins net so much more clearance...(Regular hollow hangers+stock tops before I sand them down+IKP plates).
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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #472 on: May 28, 2021, 04:09:22 PM »
So, should I get some mid Tiagos or some S11 Hollows?
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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #473 on: May 28, 2021, 07:32:09 PM »

Krux pins net so much more clearance...(Regular hollow hangers+stock tops before I sand them down+IKP plates).

Is it just me or does the bottom bushing look too big for the bottom washer?

Or is it not the usual bottom washer and one of those super fancy ones with the core or something?

Just curious more than anything.

I talk too much about skateboards.  Sorry.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #474 on: May 28, 2021, 07:39:21 PM »
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Krux pins net so much more clearance...(Regular hollow hangers+stock tops before I sand them down+IKP plates).
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Is it just me or does the bottom bushing look too big for the bottom washer?

Or is it not the usual bottom washer and one of those super fancy ones with the core or something?

Just curious more than anything.

I think that's one of those flat machined ones Xen has posted about before.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #475 on: May 28, 2021, 08:00:37 PM »
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Krux pins net so much more clearance...(Regular hollow hangers+stock tops before I sand them down+IKP plates).
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Is it just me or does the bottom bushing look too big for the bottom washer?

Or is it not the usual bottom washer and one of those super fancy ones with the core or something?

Just curious more than anything.
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I think that's one of those flat machined ones Xen has posted about before.

Yeah that is what I was thinking as I started typing...

Funny though cause it looks too small, but most likely is just right.

I talk too much about skateboards.  Sorry.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #476 on: May 28, 2021, 08:04:07 PM »
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Krux pins net so much more clearance...(Regular hollow hangers+stock tops before I sand them down+IKP plates).
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Is it just me or does the bottom bushing look too big for the bottom washer?

Or is it not the usual bottom washer and one of those super fancy ones with the core or something?

Here's a shot with the Indy IKP and a top sleeved washer:



Just curious more than anything.
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I think that's one of those flat machined ones Xen has posted about before.
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Yeah that is what I was thinking as I started typing...

Funny though cause it looks too small, but most likely is just right.



It's that machined, flat, sleeved washer, from muir skate (longboards) and it fits perfectly.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #477 on: May 28, 2021, 08:09:42 PM »
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Krux pins net so much more clearance...(Regular hollow hangers+stock tops before I sand them down+IKP plates).
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Is it just me or does the bottom bushing look too big for the bottom washer?

Or is it not the usual bottom washer and one of those super fancy ones with the core or something?

Just curious more than anything.
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I think that's one of those flat machined ones Xen has posted about before.
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Yeah that is what I was thinking as I started typing...

Funny though cause it looks too small, but most likely is just right.


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It's that machined, flat, sleeved washer, from muir skate (longboards) and it fits perfectly.

That's the one!

I talk too much about skateboards.  Sorry.

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #478 on: May 28, 2021, 08:12:30 PM »
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Krux pins net so much more clearance...(Regular hollow hangers+stock tops before I sand them down+IKP plates).
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Is it just me or does the bottom bushing look too big for the bottom washer?

Or is it not the usual bottom washer and one of those super fancy ones with the core or something?

Just curious more than anything.
[close]

I think that's one of those flat machined ones Xen has posted about before.
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Yeah that is what I was thinking as I started typing...

Funny though cause it looks too small, but most likely is just right.


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It's that machined, flat, sleeved washer, from muir skate (longboards) and it fits perfectly.
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That's the one!



It's that machined, flat, sleeved washer, from muir skate (longboards) and it fits perfectly.

Here's a shot of the stock Indy IKP with both bottom and top sleeved washers:

« Last Edit: May 29, 2021, 01:52:05 PM by Xen »

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Re: Independent Trucks Mid
« Reply #479 on: May 28, 2021, 08:14:13 PM »
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Krux pins net so much more clearance...(Regular hollow hangers+stock tops before I sand them down+IKP plates).
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Is it just me or does the bottom bushing look too big for the bottom washer?

Or is it not the usual bottom washer and one of those super fancy ones with the core or something?

Here's a shot with the Indy IKP and a top sleeved washer:



Just curious more than anything.
[close]

I think that's one of those flat machined ones Xen has posted about before.
[close]

Yeah that is what I was thinking as I started typing...

Funny though cause it looks too small, but most likely is just right.


[close]

It's that machined, flat, sleeved washer, from muir skate (longboards) and it fits perfectly.

I think you told me this before, but which Muir washer fits snuggly under the Indy bushing that way?