SOBRIETY

[Frank and Fred]

6 months today since my last beer. Not sure where things go from here as I never intended to go fully sober permanently.... but why ruin a good run.... ?

[Easy Slider]

6 months today since my last beer. Not sure where things go from here as I never intended to go fully sober permanently.... but why ruin a good run.... ?

No reason why.

[Ty Evans Lightman]

6 months today since my last beer. Not sure where things go from here as I never intended to go fully sober permanently.... but why ruin a good run.... ?

Good job.

Did you consider yourself an alcoholic before stopping?
The reason I ask is because even if some people weren't raging drunks when they drank, they still drank very regularly and couldn't really see a drink without taking a sip.
Someone who has the determination to quit for six months without the optic of permanent sobriety makes me think they can probably control their drinking and don't need to go tee total forever.

That said, if you've had enough drinking in your lifetime that the taste or feeling isn't something unknown to you or that you'll miss, then yeah, stay sober. A bit of a been there done that mentality. The world keeps turning and no matter what anyone says, a life without alcohol is a still a life and can be great.

[Sleazy]

6 months today since my last beer. Not sure where things go from here as I never intended to go fully sober permanently.... but why ruin a good run.... ?

what's been good about it for you?

what's the negatives?

[hmmoookay]

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6 months today since my last beer. Not sure where things go from here as I never intended to go fully sober permanently.... but why ruin a good run.... ?

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My aim was a month for Harvest. Had my last drink in Maine. It was a bloody maria with some cazadores. Going on 9 years in September.


Life is generally better. I was out with my pop last night and while 5 deep, he was talking about a hockey game i took him to the year before i quit drinking, talking about the guys from Montreal we met. I hardly recalled anything he was sharing. I didn’t generally black out and had a high tolerance for appearing not wasted/hung over to most, but fuck if it isn’t awesome to not have swamp brain.

I was helping in the yoga center yesterday and saw a flyer from 2010 for a week long teacher training in a specific modality, with a really talented and well known teacher. I was thinking about how i “participated” in that training. it was like 7am-5pm, sunday-Saturday, and i was absolutely destroyed the whole time.  Not actively drunk during the training, but feeling like death all day, trying to focus, and going out to the bar afterwards.

Month or so ago, i stopped to visit an old friend who i am not so close with these days. She is a serious drunk but inherited a few million and some investments, so other than socially, doesn’t feel the ramifications of drinking all day. This girl is pickled, man. Anyways, it was about 1030am and she asked if i wanted to go to the post office in her brand new Forrester. I felt bad and said “sure,” figuring as it was before noon she wouls be fine. So we drive to the PO, then the package store where she buys a case of canned wine. Coming back to the car ahe says “i am really too drunk, can you drive?” So, i drive. While driving she cracks a can of wine. You know what happens next? For the first time in at least 14 years, i get pulled over by a cop. Was going 35 in a quickly shifting zone. Im like WTF and tell her to put her drink in the console. She is over her cracking the fuck up saying “IUTSM, who drives like a grandma, gets pulled over in my car ha ha ha.” And im like “hey, this isnt cool. I will get the charge, not you. Chill the fuck out.” On top of it all, I didn’t have my ID, as i had not planned on driving. Thankfully, homegirl zipped her lip and the cop was alright, sent me on with a warning.

Seriously though, my life, my alcohol free life, the goals and successes that have come about through perseverance and sheer will, were almost ripped away by hanging out with a drunk shitbag.

Stay safe out there, y’all

I resonate a lot with what you said about the yoga training. That's kind of how I remember my second year of grad school. It was busy as fuck! Between school, work, side gigs, and (admittedly) just wanting to be drunk every night. And somehow I maintained that? It's crazy what we put ourselves through and kind of scary that it takes some hindsight to realize it, but we're here now, and that's what matters 

Glad you made it through alright re; the driving story w/ friend. Stressful even when sober to deal with that situation but you handled it well.

I'm going back off caffeine, "for good" I think. Last time was just a month to see how I felt, and I felt the best I had in some time. Lately, I've been overdoing it a bit I think and it's fucking with my sleep and general attitude. I don't like it. In general, I drink coffee because I like the taste and the ritual each morning. I don't really get down with sodas much anymore but even that would be easy to cut out the caffeinated ones. Might try dip back in to some green tea or something but honestly I've kind of realized that I do best (in life) when I don't have anything altering my being. I know that sounds kinda hippy dippy but it's true. So, we'll see. For now, just gonna cut out the regular coffee and be on top of not really getting any accidental caffeine. If it happens it happens but I think the goal for me really is just to not consciously consume it. It's not like booze where I'm gonna go off the rails and ruin my life if I go back.

[Frank and Fred]

@IUTSM Glad you made it through that one without hassle from the law...

Good thoughts everyone...

No I would not have considered myself alcoholic or even an alcohol abuser by Brit standards... and I likely could be the dude who limits things to one or two on a special occasion which is always why I feel a bit weird posting in this thread. I never want to undermine the real struggle some of you are dealing with...

In saying I have had periods where binge drinking was problematic, unsafe and unhealthy. Mainly teenage idiocy. Also, I lost a brother and brother in law to A/D misuse/ overdose. And my old man was  the highest functioning alcohol abuser I met in my life. He could not drink for months but then might drive home so drunk he couldn't talk or walk.... and then get up at 5am ready to tackle life again... but be smashed every evening for months on end... And I have plenty other relatives whose drinking habits blow my mind.

The main positives in the last 6 months have been:

1) Better sleep
2) Less inflammation. Less joint pain. As an aging skateboarder who wants to keep at it, this is no small thing.
3) Lost some weight. Although sugar addiction is real...
4) Saved some money, which I promptly spent on skate and surf shit...
5) Generally a bit more even keel in mood and temper throughout the day. Giving up caffeine could further help this I am sure.

Negatives:

1) First sip of a good beer after a great or terrible day... but that's always a slippery slope.
2) When visiting new places, it was rad to sample the local offerings. it really felt like another way to connect to a place... but again this is a slippery slope and there are many other ways to do this.
3) A weird one but I was perhaps more creative when under the influence. A few beers might inspire pen to hit paper, and spark some ideas that would get fleshed out while sober. I don't really do that anymore.

[Monolithic Flick]

I don’t know how to embed these things:

Uh, its Marius Syvanen's insta celebrating 500 days without alcohol.

[Monolithic Flick]

1) Better sleep
2) Less inflammation. Less joint pain. As an aging skateboarder who wants to keep at it, this is no small thing.
3) Lost some weight. Although sugar addiction is real...
4) Saved some money, which I promptly spent on skate and surf shit...
5) Generally a bit more even keel in mood and temper throughout the day. Giving up caffeine could further help this I am sure.

Negatives:

1) First sip of a good beer after a great or terrible day... but that's always a slippery slope.
2) When visiting new places, it was rad to sample the local offerings. it really felt like another way to connect to a place... but again this is a slippery slope and there are many other ways to do this.
3) A weird one but I was perhaps more creative when under the influence. A few beers might inspire pen to hit paper, and spark some ideas that would get fleshed out while sober. I don't really do that anymore.

Big congrats on the 6 months.  Numbers 1 and 2 on your positive list are huge for me and even at just 25 days now I fully agree.

[Abyss1]

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6 months today since my last beer. Not sure where things go from here as I never intended to go fully sober permanently.... but why ruin a good run.... ?

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what's been good about it for you?

what's the negatives?

Im 6 months too I'm usually sober about 6months out of the year, but last year fell off due to some boredom late at night and wanting to buy expensive japanese whiskey for the first time. I've solved most of my boredom problems by waking up at 4-5am wake and meditation or chilling with coffee or tea till work at 8.

for me the positives are everything everyone has posted about quality of life...biggest for me was the straightening out my financial responsibilities.  But Im pretty sure Im done with drinking at this point in my life...it just does nothing for me at my age but feel sleepy and irritable.

negatives are mainly dealing with the carbs used in replacing the drinking

[pugmaster]

One of the best threads, hands down. I really enjoy hearing all of your success stories and progress updates.

[Gnar_Gnar]

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6 months today since my last beer. Not sure where things go from here as I never intended to go fully sober permanently.... but why ruin a good run.... ?

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if it isn’t awesome to not have swamp brain.

Month or so ago, i stopped to visit an old friend who i am not so close with these days. She is a serious drunk but inherited a few million and some investments, so other than socially, doesn’t feel the ramifications of drinking all day. This girl is pickled, man. Anyways, it was about 1030am and she asked if i wanted to go to the post office in her brand new Forrester. I felt bad and said “sure,” figuring as it was before noon she wouls be fine. So we drive to the PO, then the package store where she buys a case of canned wine. Coming back to the car ahe says “i am really too drunk, can you drive?” So, i drive. While driving she cracks a can of wine. You know what happens next? For the first time in at least 14 years, i get pulled over by a cop. Was going 35 in a quickly shifting zone. Im like WTF and tell her to put her drink in the console. She is over her cracking the fuck up saying “IUTSM, who drives like a grandma, gets pulled over in my car ha ha ha.” And im like “hey, this isnt cool. I will get the charge, not you. Chill the fuck out.” On top of it all, I didn’t have my ID, as i had not planned on driving. Thankfully, homegirl zipped her lip and the cop was alright, sent me on with a warning.

Seriously though, my life, my alcohol free life, the goals and successes that have come about through perseverance and sheer will, were almost ripped away by hanging out with a drunk shitbag.

Stay safe out there, y’all

I'm constantly humbled by the fact that one wrong move can ruin my life or seriously set me back.  Sounds like your "friend" doesn't give a shit about you or is too drunk to be empathetic to another person.  Swamp brain is real.  It's too easy to justify bonehead behavior when drunk and make excuses for treating people bad.  I would personally consider that a wake up call experience but...

@IUTSM
No I would not have considered myself alcoholic or even an alcohol abuser by Brit standards... and I likely could be the dude who limits things to one or two on a special occasion which is always why I feel a bit weird posting in this thread. I never want to undermine the real struggle some of you are dealing with...

1) Better sleep
2) Less inflammation. Less joint pain. As an aging skateboarder who wants to keep at it, this is no small thing.
3) Lost some weight. Although sugar addiction is real...
4) Saved some money, which I promptly spent on skate and surf shit...
5) Generally a bit more even keel in mood and temper throughout the day. Giving up caffeine could further help this I am sure.

3) A weird one but I was perhaps more creative when under the influence. A few beers might inspire pen to hit paper, and spark some ideas that would get fleshed out while sober. I don't really do that anymore.

Those positives look reallll good.  Those negatives look kinda minor to me..  I didn't necessarily have a "problem" either but alcoholism runs in my family and has impacted my family big time.  I am trying to right the ship and end the cycle of the disease.  So while I don't get blackout RIGHT NOW, it's certainly a possibility.  I know I was a shithead while drinking and I don't like letting people down anymore or not being my best version of me.   I never want to apologize for doing something while drunk again.

Like the above poster, in life I know I am a couple bad decisions away from ruining years of progress in sobriety.  I'm done pressing my luck.  I also find being in these groups reminds me of how bad things can get, and inspire me with peoples progress.  I'll see people have a drink or two at the beach and think whats the harm, looks relaxing.  Then my friend is telling me he can't make it home from work without a beer and drinks open container while driving home.  It's normal to him.  It's so easy to get a problem and not even realize it.

I work creatively for a living and I haven't noticed anything?  I could see maybe lowering your inhibitions but I think I got over that.  The more in tune and accepting towards my emotions I am, the better my art seems to get.  Especially with film making and music.  I'm no longer missing shots or blowing shit.  I'm not playing too loud or off key.  I'm lost in the moment and I love every second of it.  I worked really hard to keep that inner child and enjoy being able to play, have fun, and not take myself so seriously.  It's really scary sometimes to be vulnerable, real, and let myself look stupid or weak.  I've personally never felt more productive and proud of my work, but it's not easy.  I find that looking up to sober artists like Spanky, who are so productive and still skate, cut out those excuses for me.

On a personal note, I turned 32 yesterday and did a lot of reflecting on my life.  So happy to be feeling healthy, happy, stable, and confident.  I talked with old timers and they were telling me I'm on a good path and to keep it up.  It's so humbling.  Life isn't perfect but I never thought I could get here.  It feels like doors are opening, and I credit it to being sober and doing the work to get out of a bad place.  I don't worry about upsetting people.  I'm not scared of police.  I feel a sense of being a part of society and feeling a love and kindness towards others that's feels so good.  Bringing good into the world and to others, means I'm walking away from more conversations feeling optimistic and loved by others.  I'm constantly amazed by life and making the most of my short time here.  It can get lonely being sober sometimes, so as always so grateful for the sober slappers!

[Sleazy]

@IUTSM Glad you made it through that one without hassle from the law...

Good thoughts everyone...

No I would not have considered myself alcoholic or even an alcohol abuser by Brit standards... and I likely could be the dude who limits things to one or two on a special occasion which is always why I feel a bit weird posting in this thread. I never want to undermine the real struggle some of you are dealing with...

In saying I have had periods where binge drinking was problematic, unsafe and unhealthy. Mainly teenage idiocy. Also, I lost a brother and brother in law to A/D misuse/ overdose. And my old man was  the highest functioning alcohol abuser I met in my life. He could not drink for months but then might drive home so drunk he couldn't talk or walk.... and then get up at 5am ready to tackle life again... but be smashed every evening for months on end... And I have plenty other relatives whose drinking habits blow my mind.

The main positives in the last 6 months have been:

1) Better sleep
2) Less inflammation. Less joint pain. As an aging skateboarder who wants to keep at it, this is no small thing.
3) Lost some weight. Although sugar addiction is real...
4) Saved some money, which I promptly spent on skate and surf shit...
5) Generally a bit more even keel in mood and temper throughout the day. Giving up caffeine could further help this I am sure.

Negatives:

1) First sip of a good beer after a great or terrible day... but that's always a slippery slope.
2) When visiting new places, it was rad to sample the local offerings. it really felt like another way to connect to a place... but again this is a slippery slope and there are many other ways to do this.
3) A weird one but I was perhaps more creative when under the influence. A few beers might inspire pen to hit paper, and spark some ideas that would get fleshed out while sober. I don't really do that anymore.

that's a solid list

a big one for me that just started happening in the last few months (i'm closing on 1 year) is that my skate sessions are mostly good these days. before i "wasn't feeling it" most of the time. just go to the park and just not be into it, throw a few go to's out and then bounce after 30 mins. i was expecting to get a better good to bad session ratio way sooner but i think it's finally happened for me. i've really been able to enjoy skating so much more lately.

[Sleazy]

Double post... Just saw today is 1 year for me. Been a great year. Sleep score today, 94, Training readiness 90+ and body battery 96. Fun active day so far. This thread has been great. Thanks for sharing everyone.

[radcunt]

I’ve just hit about 6 weeks. Had to hold off from drinking for a therapy thing and the whole process has been so beneficial that I’m keeping it going till my birthday in a month from now. I feel the mindset of going back to square one after a drink doesn’t work for me, but I’m going to test my ability to have some drinks at my birthday and then continue on not drinking till the end of the year.


I’ve found stopping hasnt been as hard as I thought, and have only had to replace the compulsion with a non alcoholic beer a couple of times but it’s definitely helped me see how much I actually wanted a drink or just the feeling of the ritual of it, which has helped me not actually want a drink.


It’s been an incredibly interesting few weeks and I feel like I understand myself so much better and not drinking has definitely added to the clarity. Just being subbed to this thread has been a big part in it too.  It’s helped me recognise what parts of my current increased mental coping ability is aided by not drinking vs working on my mental health, just massively mutually beneficial.


So thanks guys, and I’m always humbled by the struggles some of you guys are dealing with and overcoming.


Edit: a sick post for my 4000th

[Burt Ward]

Double post... Just saw today is 1 year for me. Been a great year. Sleep score today, 94, Training readiness 90+ and body battery 96. Fun active day so far. This thread has been great. Thanks for sharing everyone.

Congratulations! A year is big. The better sleep thing never gets old. My first 3 years of attempting to quit I couldn't get past six months, and from what I've observed in others, the six month point is make or break time. When I fell off, I'd fall off about as hard as anyone could, and of the seven times that i did, all seven ended up with me being taken to residential detox. Five years no booze next month, and I fully believe that even if I were able to moderate my drinking instead of quit entirely, my life wouldn't even be as close to as enjoyable as it is now. Keep it up, everyone. xo

[Sleazy]

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Double post... Just saw today is 1 year for me. Been a great year. Sleep score today, 94, Training readiness 90+ and body battery 96. Fun active day so far. This thread has been great. Thanks for sharing everyone.

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Congratulations! A year is big. The better sleep thing never gets old. My first 3 years of attempting to quit I couldn't get past six months, and from what I've observed in others, the six month point is make or break time. When I fell off, I'd fall off about as hard as anyone could, and of the seven times that i did, all seven ended up with me being taken to residential detox. Five years no booze next month, and I fully believe that even if I were able to moderate my drinking instead of quit entirely, my life wouldn't even be as close to as enjoyable as it is now. Keep it up, everyone. xo

congratulations on 5 years. sleep is my new drug. i had 2 days this week were it was unavoidable to have good sleep because of work and travel and they sucked so bad. for me it also takes a few low energy resting days to get my sleep back on track.

that 6 months struggle makes sense. i'd guess it has something to do with needing to commit to the lifestyle pivot. yesterday would have been a really boring day if i was still in a drinking mindset. having all that energy, being up early and a full day to kill in texas heat. back in the day i would have gotten some cigars and probably grilled some stuff chilling in the pool listening to music or gone down to the neighborhood club and day drank at the pool bar or maybe a movie with beers and whiskey. but now i just crank through domestics and then balance that with going to gym, playing board games with kids, running errands, do some laundry, mess with the pool, etc. i got some plants for my work area yesterday for example. after dinner to bed time was really boring for me for a while too until i just accepted that it was "rest before" bedtime and now just embrace it and melt into the couch with some tv.

[Monolithic Flick]

Congrats on all the milestones.  They are inspiring to read so glad people update.  I'm on day 29 no alcohol and have changed my mind and decided to go back to no cannabis as well.  Cannabis isn't difficult for me to give up and I only broke a 31 day streak in June just to try out having an altered state w/o alcohol.   Thing is I live in a legal state and since I don't go into dispensaries that often whenever I do go in I tend to overspend like I'm in a candy store.  Never a daily user, but more of a weekend thing.  Anyway, just want to see what total clarity is like again.  And want to make sure it isn't affecting my moods the day after using, as I suspect it is. Have been here before just want to be here longer.  Best wishes to all.

[Natas_Fauxas]

Still hanging in there. Im glad i stopped the booze in the long run. I hope everyone is well. And congrats to everyone who is giving it a go.

[Mr. Pickles]

I’m gonna jump on the wagon. Can’t do it anymore. Feels like I’m losing more time to hangovers and I can’t justify it. I’m not even really having a good time when I’m out drinking. Mouth gets me in trouble. It’s all bad now.

[MeanestCleanestPenis]

Great to hear those having success living a sober life! I'm interested on those that have been sober a while, what the effects have been on your levels of anxiety? It's something I struggle with from time to time and when I've done months off before it's definitely helped. About 3 weeks no sauce just now.

[Gnar_Gnar]

Great to hear those having success living a sober life! I'm interested on those that have been sober a while, what the effects have been on your levels of anxiety? It's something I struggle with from time to time and when I've done months off before it's definitely helped. About 3 weeks no sauce just now.

At first, it was worse.  Especially cutting out herb.  Those super vivid dreams were not fun.  Especially the nightmares.  I won't lie, when I first quit my anxiety spiked way up because I had no idea how to cope with my emotions and take care of myself.  Now that I'm out a while, it's gotten so much better.  I had to ask myself a lot, Gnar_Gnar, what exactly do you need right now?  Sometimes it was calling a friend or family.  Sometimes it was working hard on a project.  Other times it was as simple as getting some rest or making some food.  Then I think my body learned to relax about stuff.  It trusted I was going to take care of myself and that I could handle things.  Then I stopped feeling so worried, especially once the good decisions of sobriety start adding up and I just... had less things to be worried about.

I’m gonna jump on the wagon. Can’t do it anymore. Feels like I’m losing more time to hangovers and I can’t justify it. I’m not even really having a good time when I’m out drinking. Mouth gets me in trouble. It’s all bad now.

Step 1 is admitting it.  I know I was there at one point.

Big love to everyone in here.  Stay up!  It's a great summer day and lots of life going on out there!

[Steely Daniel]

I got so drunk at the skatepark last night I was falling all over the place just trying to ride my skateboard. Fucking embarrassing. Think it's time for a change.

[Sleazy]

I’m gonna jump on the wagon. Can’t do it anymore. Feels like I’m losing more time to hangovers and I can’t justify it. I’m not even really having a good time when I’m out drinking. Mouth gets me in trouble. It’s all bad now.

good luck and thanks for sharing. there's definitely no downside to trying. first week for me was rough. really tired and i was surprised by levels of withdraws i went through. i did a dry 30 my first time and really i should have done 90. it takes a while to get the full benefits.

Great to hear those having success living a sober life! I'm interested on those that have been sober a while, what the effects have been on your levels of anxiety? It's something I struggle with from time to time and when I've done months off before it's definitely helped. About 3 weeks no sauce just now.

i've had a really stressful year, lost a pet, business is way down, etc. and i could not imagine navigating this if i was drinking. for me being sober and energetic is very helpful. that said, if you have physical stress where you can feel it in your chest, nothing i've found gets that off you like a drink. i force myself not to think about stressful things unless i'm planning on them. it works for me for most things. it wouldn't work if i was dealing with a death or going through a divorce but for regular things like finances, business/work it works great. i also use exercise and walking. a good cardio session will relieve a lot of physical stress. and really just knowing that i'm living sober, exercising, feeling healthy, relationships are great, etc. helps me feel more fortunate and role with the punches better. plus i find that when i'm tired it's harder to feel positive in general.

[Ankle_Lift]

Double post... Just saw today is 1 year for me. Been a great year. Sleep score today, 94, Training readiness 90+ and body battery 96. Fun active day so far. This thread has been great. Thanks for sharing everyone.

How do you know all that? A Fitbit or something?

[JoseCansnake0]

I got so drunk at the skatepark last night I was falling all over the place just trying to ride my skateboard. Fucking embarrassing. Think it's time for a change.

If you think you need help, ask for help. You'd be surprised how many are willing and able to help at the drop of a hat.

[mfweeno]

I got so drunk at the skatepark last night I was falling all over the place just trying to ride my skateboard. Fucking embarrassing. Think it's time for a change.

This happened to me the first time I relapsed after a month off. I feel where you’re coming from. I hope you find the motivation and support system to keep you committed to cutting out booze. Feel free to DM if you feel comfortable.

[Ankle_Lift]

Think it's time for a change.

You can do it.

[NoComply180]

Great to hear those having success living a sober life! I'm interested on those that have been sober a while, what the effects have been on your levels of anxiety? It's something I struggle with from time to time and when I've done months off before it's definitely helped. About 3 weeks no sauce just now.

I’ll be honest about my experience as someone with bad anxiety, panic attacks, and dissociation issues. After getting through the first week of booze withdrawal, I had 2-3 months of pretty easy living. Anxiety basically didn’t exist and I felt really calm and in control despite being in an incredibly stressful work/life period at the time.

Since then (I hit 6 months this week) my mental health issues have shown themselves much more clearly - pretty sure because I’m not masking with booze. I found a combo of meds that’s working pretty well and a good doctor.

Life is better overall without booze, and will be better overall in the long run, that is pretty clear to me. But it’s not easier I’d say, at least not in the moment. The harsh reality is there’s nothing in life that gives you instant good feelings or instantly knocks out bad feelings like alcohol or whatever drug does it for you. Living life manipulating your feelings and experiences that way seems super artificial now that I’m on the other side of it.

[Sleazy]

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Double post... Just saw today is 1 year for me. Been a great year. Sleep score today, 94, Training readiness 90+ and body battery 96. Fun active day so far. This thread has been great. Thanks for sharing everyone.

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How do you know all that? A Fitbit or something?

i use and love my garmin watch. you can get cheaper ones for a few hundred. i had a few good years and got i a top end one that works well in business sales type circles while the getting was good. it's seriously changed my life. first thing i look at when i wake up is my garmin. it tells me training readiness (basically how hard you should exercise that day or if you should rest), sleep score (how well you slept, 80+ is a good day, 90+ is an amazing day), hrv (how well your dealing with stress), body battery (how much energy you have built up). then it will give you reasons for the scores. if they are low it will tell you thinks like (maybe you drink caffeine or alcohol late in the day), if it's good it will tell you things like "you did a good job resting after you exercised and you timed your exercise perfectly during the day".

my most recent discovery has been the power of exercise. i was working out super hard before i quit drinking. i was doing
 something every day, orange theory 5 times a week, mountain biking, skating, etc. after i quit drinking i stopped working out. then i lost weight and lost motivation to workout. recently i started going and doing 20-30mins weight workouts using this app called fitbod and what i discovered is that doing that gives me 10 extra points on my sleep. what that means is i can basically sleep an hour less and get the same sleep score. it's super motivating because if i go workout then i can sleep less and get an extra hour of in my day.

anyway, long winded as usual but super hyped on garmin. my wife has apple watch then aura ring and they don't seem to be as good. she's always envious of the way garmin works. highly recommend trying it if you have any interst in this kind of thing.

here's my sleep score the last year i drank the whole year, compared to my last year of being completely sober

[Ankle_Lift]

@sleazy

Awesome! Can you share link to what watch you have? I've always wondered why I always feel like shit and that looks like something I would like to get and use. It might help with my fatigue and everything.