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Venture heads :
Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?
Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?
I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.
I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause I’m kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is what’s kinda getting me shook.
If you are coming from Indy you'll feel the change for sure - I'm riding them on a short (14") WB so I don't notice the extra length and they're already compensating for what I normally feel comfy on. I did NOT like them on a long WB and wouldn't use them on anything longer than 14.25"....even then I'd probably keep to 14" / 14.1" WB on them. A few others have noted how nice the feel on short WB decks.
What's funny is all the talk about this truck, that truck and WB when it seems the average for everyone is hovering around 17.5" axle to axle WB.
completely agree. shit gets weird with ventures and a 14.38 wb.
logged all my axle to axle wb findings and found 17.5-17.63 was the best all round a2a wb for me at least. once i hit 17.75+, things felt boaty. 17.38 felt short for my long ass legs but would be the lowest id work with. keeping my cast ventures around for that blue moon when i pick up a 14.125 wb to give me a 17.5 a2a off the rip.
ventures really give me the confidence to try deck wheelbases that scare me
what was wrong with the 14.38wb and cast ventures? Isn’t that withn your 17.63” a2a range? Messed up manual point? Boaty? Just curious, not extra stability? Like a longer wb on indys feels how different than a short wb on venture even though they even out. Fingers of flat.. kick steepness.. that variable removes if possible even tho it’s not
if i remember correctly, the measurement i was getting was 17.75 from axle to axle, not 17.63.
i marked venture 6.1s as adding 3.375 to the wb. i found that with the weight and geometry of the truck, i lost the snappy pop feel past a 14.25 deck wb. i also lost my manual point and any trick i popped had to really be snapped down to get average results. rotational tricks moved noticeably slower, like turning a boat. venture stability has been a non factor to me ever since i put a deckside barrel bushing in a thunder.
i know the measurement could be off by human error but it really felt like the trucks were just a little further back. that on top of the weight difference between 6.1s and what im used to didnt work on a 14.38. luckily for me i didnt have to bear with something i know i didnt like. threw the ventures on a 14 wb, something i would honestly never step on outside of experimentation, and i honestly could have skated the deck to the ground if i was desperate. then tried them on a beat up 14.25, razortailed to shit, and could still get shit off like it had life in it. put my thunder forged on the 14.38 and it was back to its the responsive self. ventures have shined for me on the >14.25 deck wheelbases. not saying bigger wheelbases and ventures cant work for anyone else of course, its just not agile enough for my liking.
"Like a longer wb on indys feels how different than a short wb on venture even though they even out."
i think i know exactly what your saying but ill put my point out there to clarify. there are a ton of ways to get a 17.5 axle to axle wb on a deck. if the truck is literally not the same truck, there will be no way to completely get one truck to behave like another. every truck will have different characteristics and to try and compare them exactly to another will drive you crazy. with the amount of outside factors, i can firmly say its impossible without a fuckton of constants and computer measurements. youd be better off leaving that to someone with the time and resources to do it, i.e. the professor. it did so much to help my madness by finding my truck of choice and tweaking the small issues when possible. take the journey to find that truck if you havent already. cost me $260 short term, but at least i kicked the urge to try every new truck and just progress on one.