Venture 2020

[roba]

do dohdohs fit ventures?

[Musicaldeath107]

do dohdohs fit ventures?

The originals with the cylinder bottom bushings do, running set in 2 of mine right now, they fit perfectly.
Don't know about the new conical ones

[Mongo Lloyd]

Loving the v8 bushings now!

Whoever mentioned them firming up, you got it correct!

[Mbrimson88]

been thinking forged v8s would go crazy
gonna diy it and pair with a 14.5 wb polar
im thinking a lighter nose would suit my pop timing

if all else fails, i go down to 14.25-14.375wb
and just run the stock hole pattern

@Mbrimson88 whats the new wb after the re drill?
im going to use indy 6 hole plates for reference
i can do the math, just curious on your findings

The ones I have found work best are about 1/4" apart, so all up just on or maybe a little over 1/2" total.

When I did the six hole baseplates at 3/8" which ended up being 3/4" total, it was a little too much on most boards I tried them on, so feeling out the slightly shorter overall gap was a winner for me.

That said, I know others on here like the six hole baseplate for a template and how it works, so it is not a big deal unless you really chew through the end of the baseplates so would be eating into your deck bolts after some use.


The drilling out part is fairly easy though, but if you are not sure, try it first on some old baseplates and just go nice and slow and steady.  The forged baseplates are actually super thin and quick to drill through too, much easier than I first thought, so marking it out with the six hole baseplate and going in a little from each of those spots might be the easiest option.

One thing I did notice with using a guide or template of another truck is more often than not the holes would end up a little to one side, whereas looking at it as you do it from marking rather than drilling through other holes seems to be the most accurate way for me.

[BalooBrown]

Loving the v8 bushings now!

Whoever mentioned them firming up, you got it correct!

I 2nd that. It’s my 4th session on the v8s and the bushings firmed up perfectly. I did have the trucks turning to the right even after rotating the bushings around. Switched out the pivot cups with some af1 cups and problem solved. V8s offically dialed

[j....soy.....]

I set up V8's base plates on my old hollow hangers, on a board that I felt was on it's last legs: razor'd Isle BBS 8.125, 14.25 WB and it felt good.  Rode the smaller holes.  The angle which the nose/tail pop made it feel new.  Could be new bushings I put in but felt turnier.  Manuals felt easier/tippier and you can stand on the fingers of flat zone more.  I think they work well, glad I got them.  To me the wheelbase is a bit too long and this balanced things out. 

[zozu]

Been on and off Venture 5.8 standards for a bit the last year. Set them up again with Thunder 94a bushings no washers, I may be awake now.

[slappyjoes]

Is the smaller wheel base on the v8s similar to thunders wheel base or indys wheel base or in between?

[BalooBrown]

Is the smaller wheel base on the v8s similar to thunders wheel base or indys wheel base or in between?

Before the V8s I had AF1s and I feel like their closer to that wheelbase

[Mbrimson88]

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Is the smaller wheel base on the v8s similar to thunders wheel base or indys wheel base or in between?

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Before the V8s I had AF1s and I feel like their closer to that wheelbase

Yes that would be pretty much it.

Each side takes it in 1/4" (or more as per others comments) which is a lot when even a few mm count for a big difference.

That would make it the same as Ace Classics / even shorter than any other truck on the market as far as the double drilled position if both trucks are on that option, 1/2" all up, so from the longest to the shortest is pretty significant and can make some boards feel way too light, but others work way better.

Also depends on how much you are used to certain boards with certain trucks, but a few sessions on most boards of a longer wheelbase once both on the inner option and I got quite used to it, eg the DLX 8.38 with 14.5 wb skates well with either just the tail or both.  I prefer just the tail, but others need them both in to feel more normal.


* Note: the usual turn on Ventures are still there, but it is also a lighter / quicker turn on a shorter wheelbase too, so apart from people who have almost zero turn on their trucks, it is not really an easy comparison to any other truck in overall performance.  Venture turn the least of all the trucks, even though they can still turn enough if you set them up that way, but in part that is what some people really like about them too.


Wheelbase thread here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0


That is the total wheelbase difference, so cast Ventures at 3.125 come down .5 in total to 2.625 which is under the Ace 2.75 measurement if you like numbers.  Some say cast Ventures are more like 3.25 so that would still be the same as Ace at 2.75 then.

This is not taking in to account forged baseplates, as the V8 are only on cast, although drilling in forged baseplates is pretty easy and does feel a little more in between when I skated a few boards with them on.

[j....soy.....]

my short answer to this insane deep dive question is wheelbase/proportion is more like indy, pop feels more like thunder.  Turn....maybe Thunder but gives you more depth like an indy.

I always think Thunder/Venture are interchangeable like Indy/Ace

[slappyjoes]

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Is the smaller wheel base on the v8s similar to thunders wheel base or indys wheel base or in between?

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Before the V8s I had AF1s and I feel like their closer to that wheelbase

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Yes that would be pretty much it.

Each side takes it in 1/4" (or more as per others comments) which is a lot when even a few mm count for a big difference.

That would make it the same as Ace Classics / even shorter than any other truck on the market as far as the double drilled position if both trucks are on that option, 1/2" all up, so from the longest to the shortest is pretty significant and can make some boards feel way too light, but others work way better.

Also depends on how much you are used to certain boards with certain trucks, but a few sessions on most boards of a longer wheelbase once both on the inner option and I got quite used to it, eg the DLX 8.38 with 14.5 wb skates well with either just the tail or both.  I prefer just the tail, but others need them both in to feel more normal.


* Note: the usual turn on Ventures are still there, but it is also a lighter / quicker turn on a shorter wheelbase too, so apart from people who have almost zero turn on their trucks, it is not really an easy comparison to any other truck in overall performance.  Venture turn the least of all the trucks, even though they can still turn enough if you set them up that way, but in part that is what some people really like about them too.


Wheelbase thread here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0


That is the total wheelbase difference, so cast Ventures at 3.125 come down .5 in total to 2.625 which is under the Ace 2.75 measurement if you like numbers.  Some say cast Ventures are more like 3.25 so that would still be the same as Ace at 2.75 then.

This is not taking in to account forged baseplates, as the V8 are only on cast, although drilling in forged baseplates is pretty easy and does feel a little more in between when I skated a few boards with them on.

Interesting didn't realise they went back so far. Can't wait get a set now

my short answer to this insane deep dive question is wheelbase/proportion is more like indy, pop feels more like thunder.  Turn....maybe Thunder but gives you more depth like an indy.

I always think Thunder/Venture are interchangeable like Indy/Ace

Sounds like something I would like

[munchbox]

bronze 56k x venture
5.6s and 5.8s available

[WelcomeToHell]

bronze 56k x venture
5.6s and 5.8s available

Very hyped on this.

[FrenchSkater]

Very curious to see that the standard polished no longer make the 5.25 lows, just in hollows.

I feel like now Yuto and Sewa are the only pros skating them.

[Mbrimson88]

Very curious to see that the standard polished no longer make the 5.25 lows, just in hollows.

I feel like now Yuto and Sewa are the only pros skating them.

Along with no more ti axles at all too (maybe) but it could just be what is in the current catalog.

I know there are still plenty of ti axles and low 5.25 around in shops but maybe stock up if that is the truck you like, just in case you can't get any more if you want them again.

[rocklobster]

Went with @Xen 's suggestion on Ace Low Hard bushings and they are work great with Ventures. The top bushing is slightly taller than the stock, but the bottom bushing is slightly shorter than the stock so it worked out itself out. 20 minutes and they were nicely broken in, zero complaints.

[Beardedpirate]

I agree to the above as well. Fitted the ace low hard the other day and they are awesome! Best bushings I have tried in mine by far.

[theloniousmonk]

I’ll third that. Put ace low hoards in my 5.2 hollows last winter when the stock purple bushings froze and they have been great. Feel like it lowers the truck slightly which I’m not mad at

[rocklobster]

I’ll third that. Put ace low hoards in my 5.2 hollows last winter when the stock purple bushings froze and they have been great. Feel like it lowers the truck slightly which I’m not mad at

Most of my flip tricks were feeling on point today too, was struggling with the mushed out stock ones. Time to load up on them during BF.

[BeachChicken]

Purple, green, and red have a place in my heart in Ventures.

I bought some 5.8 V Cast and the stock washers were so big they were binding with the hanger. DLX sorted me with new washers and a handful of bushings but I actually haven't blown any out recently.

[Fifty8mm]

Does anybody have a problem where the hanger pivot seems to small for the pivot yoke on Venture lows? I could wiggle the hanger a lot.

I tried different pivot cups, different baseplates and hangers (both 5.2 and 5.0 low). The highs sit fine, no matter what hi hanger i use they all sit fine.

Not a deal breaker for me since the venture low is my favorite truck but i do feel the sway when im pushing. Especially on rough ground.
Maybe i should try a lower bottom bushing. Idk. I like the height on them now.

[Mbrimson88]

Does anybody have a problem where the hanger pivot seems to small for the pivot yoke on Venture lows? I could wiggle the hanger a lot.

I tried different pivot cups, different baseplates and hangers (both 5.2 and 5.0 low). The highs sit fine, no matter what hi hanger i use they all sit fine.

Not a deal breaker for me since the venture low is my favorite truck but i do feel the sway when im pushing. Especially on rough ground.
Maybe i should try a lower bottom bushing. Idk. I like the height on them now.

Yeah it is almost always the bottom bushing making the truck sit at a weird angle, that causes the pivot point on the hanger to sit out of the baseplates on Venture, Indy and other brands I have seen too.

More often than not, once the bushing compresses some, they fit better, but just sanding your bottom bushing a bit on your grip tape can help speed up that process too.

Done it quite often when it is making a funny noise or people can feel it when they go to turn and then bugs them.

Some people don't like the thought of taking down the bushings at all, but it is not like I am going from stock 12.5 or 13 mm down to 10 or anything that drastic, just taking a little off, try it again, take a little more off if needed, etc.

[FrenchSkater]

I was watching Ishod Wair's insta clips and I forgot that he skated venture, and I was wondering, with thunder, he was with 147s, if anyone knows, I wonder if he skates the 5.25 Ventures on an 8.3 ? Very curious to know haha

[BeachChicken]

I was watching Ishod Wair's insta clips and I forgot that he skated venture, and I was wondering, with thunder, he was with 147s, if anyone knows, I wonder if he skates the 5.25 Ventures on an 8.3 ? Very curious to know haha

He skates 5.6. I heard that from someone that provides him trucks. He was on 147 Thunders with risers and tons of washers to make an effective 148. IIRC his explanation was that he got used to 147 cuz I wanted to grind a rail against a wall so he wanted the axles tucked in to not catch the wall and just left them on.

[Pastasash]

Why can't Venture have their stock purp bushings available for sale like Indy does with their stock orange bushings? Love that shiny new purp look.

Also wish those Bronze trucks were V-lights, their collabs are always V-hollows or standards it seems :/

[munchbox]

Also wish those Bronze trucks were V-lights, their collabs are always V-hollows or standards it seems :/

yeah try riding 6.1s
not a single collab to date

[Murge]

I was watching Ishod Wair's insta clips and I forgot that he skated venture, and I was wondering, with thunder, he was with 147s, if anyone knows, I wonder if he skates the 5.25 Ventures on an 8.3 ? Very curious to know haha

Wait I’ve been out of the loop but I thought ishod was on thunder?

[Micki Free]

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I was watching Ishod Wair's insta clips and I forgot that he skated venture, and I was wondering, with thunder, he was with 147s, if anyone knows, I wonder if he skates the 5.25 Ventures on an 8.3 ? Very curious to know haha

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Wait I’ve been out of the loop but I thought ishod was on thunder?

News to me as well. Is he on the hollows or standards? Ive always been a thunder guy but just recently got some 5.6 hollows to try out. 

[yozzlebot87]

Why can't Venture have their stock purp bushings available for sale like Indy does with their stock orange bushings? Love that shiny new purp look.

I would do anything for a big pile of stock purple venture bushings. Best bushings ever until they explode. The only reason I have a flat washer on the top bushing is to protect it. I blew out my bottom bushings and replaced them with the bottoms from the green loose kit, and I kind of like the purple/green look.

When the first V8 insta post came out I thought they were gonna be sold as just baseplates with bushings - WRONG!

I got some V8 5.8's the other day, I think I'm gonna take off the "Koston" print.

No metal part of my skateboard should have paint on it, period.