Venture 2020

[tzhangdox]

I think I've heard several people say that the venture 6.1s don't push out the wheelbase as much as 5.8s and below... is this actually true? (I see it here also: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0)

If so, is it the hanger or the baseplate thats causing it? Say I wanted the reduced wheelbase extension of 6.1 hollows, could I throw them on the cast plates of some 5.8s I have lying around?

Anyone skate the 6.1s and 5.8s before have any general opinions on the differences?

[munchbox]

I think I've heard several people say that the venture 6.1s don't push out the wheelbase as much as 5.8s and below... is this actually true? (I see it here also: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0)

If so, is it the hanger or the baseplate thats causing it? Say I wanted the reduced wheelbase extension of 6.1 hollows, could I throw them on the cast plates of some 5.8s I have lying around?

Anyone skate the 6.1s and 5.8s before have any general opinions on the differences?

all venture baseplates are the same geometry
the only difference is the construction: cast or forged
or the “new” plates with hollow kingpins

6.1s have different hangars
most likely to keep the venture feel with the added width
havent skated 5.8s since sizing up and wont go back

the real caveat is in the wheelbase changes
cast: +3.125 @ 53.09mm
forged: +3.25 @ 51.82mm
on average the cast ventures (5.2 - 5.8) add +3.25

[theloniousmonk]

A little context to a question I have:
I have been on 5.2 lows with 52mm wheels for two months.
Yesterday, I compared my boards tail height to my friends board.
He is on 5.2 highs with 56mm wheels

The tail heights were exactly the same, which surprised me. I figured my low trucks and 52s would have a lower tail so quicker pop than his highs with 56’s.
I’m riding a chocolate g008 8.0”, which I presumed is pretty mellow, and he was on a shop deck- I’m not sure of the wood manufacturer (central board shop Wausau, wi)
Now I want to get some 5.2 highs. Probably hollows.
My question is,
If I put riser pads on my lows, will they give a similar feel to the highs? Or do the high behave totally different from the lows? If it’s similar, I could try out how much I’d like the highs before I buy new trucks. Which is appealing to me because I’m trying to skate my product into the ground.

Thanks in advance!

[Ok]

A little context to a question I have:
I have been on 5.2 lows with 52mm wheels for two months.
Yesterday, I compared my boards tail height to my friends board.
He is on 5.2 highs with 56mm wheels

The tail heights were exactly the same, which surprised me. I figured my low trucks and 52s would have a lower tail so quicker pop than his highs with 56’s.
I’m riding a chocolate g008 8.0”, which I presumed is pretty mellow, and he was on a shop deck- I’m not sure of the wood manufacturer (central board shop Wausau, wi)
Now I want to get some 5.2 highs. Probably hollows.
My question is,
If I put riser pads on my lows, will they give a similar feel to the highs? Or do the high behave totally different from the lows? If it’s similar, I could try out how much I’d like the highs before I buy new trucks. Which is appealing to me because I’m trying to skate my product into the ground.

Thanks in advance!

Risers on lo’s: Different, but not bad.
 I’m not sure how you measured this, but it doesn’t sound correct.

[LebowskisRug]

A little context to a question I have:
I have been on 5.2 lows with 52mm wheels for two months.
Yesterday, I compared my boards tail height to my friends board.
He is on 5.2 highs with 56mm wheels

The tail heights were exactly the same, which surprised me. I figured my low trucks and 52s would have a lower tail so quicker pop than his highs with 56’s.
I’m riding a chocolate g008 8.0”, which I presumed is pretty mellow, and he was on a shop deck- I’m not sure of the wood manufacturer (central board shop Wausau, wi)
Now I want to get some 5.2 highs. Probably hollows.
My question is,
If I put riser pads on my lows, will they give a similar feel to the highs? Or do the high behave totally different from the lows? If it’s similar, I could try out how much I’d like the highs before I buy new trucks. Which is appealing to me because I’m trying to skate my product into the ground.

Thanks in advance!

In order to compare pop angle you need to line both tails or noses against a wall and press them to the ground and compare the angle of the opposite end.

[Creachteach]

Using the water level in the iPhone “measuring” app is what I use.

Picture of app-icon.
With this you can have a simple digital readout. Place the phone in the flat of the middle of the board, and then touch the tail to the floor.

[theloniousmonk]

Thanks for the replies @ok @LebowskisRug  @Creachteach , I didn’t think about measuring the angle, but I will try out the low’s with risers and the. Measure both our boards angles next time we skate together.
In honor of not wanting to buy more stuff I’m going to take a couple of kids at the school I work at slightly used completes. Free up some room on my end and pass along some fun for them.

[hiljentaa]

I've been so happy on my 5.8/8.38 setup.

I am a total idiot though and caved on those $25 5.2 lows. I've always wanted a pair. Going to try em on an 8.0 Baker B2 with 50mm F4 classics.

[rocklobster]

I've been so happy on my 5.8/8.38 setup.

Truth, loving 8.38s at the moment, stuck with Venture for close to a year too. #venturebless

[hiljentaa]

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I've been so happy on my 5.8/8.38 setup.

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Truth, loving 8.38s at the moment, stuck with Venture for close to a year too. #venturebless

Yessir, AWAKE!

My goal is to skate these 5.8s for at least four boards before reassessing if I want to skate Indys again.

[big_kev_215]

I've been so happy on my 5.8/8.38 setup.

I am a total idiot though and caved on those $25 5.2 lows. I've always wanted a pair. Going to try em on an 8.0 Baker B2 with 50mm F4 classics.

5.8’s on an 8.38 is one of my favorite combos.  Im thinking about taking it down to 5.8’s on an 8.25 for my next setup…

[FunnyBunny]

So I just ordered a pair of 6.1’s and was curious about how people that ride wider trucks go about board wheel base.  Do you seek out shorter wheelbase boards which can be hard to find or do you just deal with it.  I’ll be setting them up on a 8.5 quasi with a 14.5 wheelbase to start with but we’ll see from there, I typically ride 8.75 to 8.5 boards and like 8.75 truck width but have typically rode Indy or aces where WB is a non issue.  Either way I’m excited to try something drastically different from what I’ve always been on.

[jsettle]

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I've been so happy on my 5.8/8.38 setup.

I am a total idiot though and caved on those $25 5.2 lows. I've always wanted a pair. Going to try em on an 8.0 Baker B2 with 50mm F4 classics.

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5.8’s on an 8.38 is one of my favorite combos.  Im thinking about taking it down to 5.8’s on an 8.25 for my next setup…

currently debating the same thing. Been running 5.8 on 8.38 and i like it alot. I have a few 8.25's on deck to skate next and trying to decide if i should run the 5.8s on them or get 5.6.

[rocklobster]

So I just ordered a pair of 6.1’s and was curious about how people that ride wider trucks go about board wheel base.  Do you seek out shorter wheelbase boards which can be hard to find or do you just deal with it.  I’ll be setting them up on a 8.5 quasi with a 14.5 wheelbase to start with but we’ll see from there, I typically ride 8.75 to 8.5 boards and like 8.75 truck width but have typically rode Indy or aces where WB is a non issue.  Either way I’m excited to try something drastically different from what I’ve always been on.

Wider boards tend to be longer to offset the wider wheelbase, so I wouldn't worry about it for now. The less info you have the better it is for your skating to an extent. I'd just swap between forged / cast baseplates for shorter / longer WB, but max I'd tried for forged baseplates was 14.38 but with a 32.25 deck, loving it at the moment.

[j....soy.....]

I’m thinking about sizing down for this reason….even if dropping down a size doesn’t change the wheelbase much overall your board doesn’t feel like a longboard…

[FrenchSkater]

Come to think of it, so venture v lights and hollow are considered mids trucks, right ?

No need for Venture to do mids so haha

[rawbertson.]

i guess 55mm = hi
49mm = low
so even the cast plate at 53mm is not even really a "high" is it?

i am really starting to get my switch heelflips down because of 2 tiny adjustments i made. i always skated switch off the nose for some reason and it felt like it was hitting too late so i switched to the tail. i also moved my front foot back a tiny bit and voila! I can actually pop my switch heel every single try and land it upside down now. and i am doing them really high too, like almost as high as my normal heelflips. it feels like how it felt 20 years ago when first learned heelflips, i think its just a matter of time now and ill get them a bit better. i did maange to land about 6 or 7 in the session. just need to work out the details of getting it more consistent. i feel like i need to kick down a tiny bit more to let it flip a bit faster or something.

im thinking if i was to switch to lows, it would allow the tail to hit the floor a bit sooner, which would allow me to move my front foot up a tiny bit more and get a bit more stability. but i am not buying new trucks just for that lol i will ride these down to the axle and then when i replace these i will go low.

[j....soy.....]

I haven’t skated them but I actually think I could switch heel easier on hi’s….it’s the rollability of a hi, on a switch heel for my mid 90’s style it’s pressure and release….no flick….no pop….just jump…the pocket and the pressure do all the work….

[LebowskisRug]

What 8.38s are you guys enjoying with Venture?

[rawbertson.]

I haven’t skated them but I actually think I could switch heel easier on hi’s….it’s the rollability of a hi, on a switch heel for my mid 90’s style it’s pressure and release….no flick….no pop….just jump…the pocket and the pressure do all the work….

i gotta try someone else's board lol its not exactly the most common setup tho
i think i gotta put my back foot in the pocket as well to help it, i am not doing it at all right now cause i dont do it for my regular heelflips

[rocklobster]

What 8.38s are you guys enjoying with Venture?

5.8 TI with forged baseplates, I like a wider truck.

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What 8.38s are you guys enjoying with Venture?

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5.8 TI with forged baseplates, I like a wider truck.

I’m going to thunder a guess a wager that they meant which 8.38 decks you riding/liking, with those trucks

[rocklobster]

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What 8.38s are you guys enjoying with Venture?

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5.8 TI with forged baseplates, I like a wider truck.

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I’m going to thunder a guess a wager that they meant which 8.38 decks you riding/liking, with those trucks

My bad, too early here and not enough coffee.

BBS wood between 32 - 32.25 long, 14 - 14.38 WB, medium to medium/steep kicks.

If BBS isn't available then Clutch, DSM then PS Stix for preferred wood.

[Banned from the room]

A little context to a question I have:
I have been on 5.2 lows with 52mm wheels for two months.
Yesterday, I compared my boards tail height to my friends board.
He is on 5.2 highs with 56mm wheels

The tail heights were exactly the same, which surprised me. I figured my low trucks and 52s would have a lower tail so quicker pop than his highs with 56’s.
I’m riding a chocolate g008 8.0”, which I presumed is pretty mellow, and he was on a shop deck- I’m not sure of the wood manufacturer (central board shop Wausau, wi)
Now I want to get some 5.2 highs. Probably hollows.
My question is,
If I put riser pads on my lows, will they give a similar feel to the highs? Or do the high behave totally different from the lows? If it’s similar, I could try out how much I’d like the highs before I buy new trucks. Which is appealing to me because I’m trying to skate my product into the ground.

Thanks in advance!

The age of the wood will contribute to this too

[Lessfillingtastegreat]

I’m coming back to venture after 2 months on Thunder.  To celebrate I’m buying a fresh set.  Thinking kaders.   An y reason to consider the Titanium’s ? I ride the 5.6 hi typically w 54mm wheels.

[Banned from the room]

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I've been so happy on my 5.8/8.38 setup.

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Truth, loving 8.38s at the moment, stuck with Venture for close to a year too. #venturebless

I went the other way. I'm on 5.8s 8.75. I second that blessed emotion.

I feel like nothing is better than venture.

I'm like

Venture
Ace
Thunder
Indy

I'm betting the 151 stage 4 is going to be #2. I just gotta cop someday.

I definitely think that about slappy too. Those two trucks will battle. If I could cop.

The future looks bright tho because the now is so dark. I keep my ventures with me always so I can have the light close by. My board rides shotgun. Sits in a basket at the grocery store. Hangs out under the table when I eat. I do impossibles in the pit at infest and get yelled at by my friend Jeff Wizard Security.

I apologized to Jeff and shook his hand with a hug because he's a homie and I don't want to upset him nor put my board in the office behind the bar.

I violated probation because I wouldn't let go of my board while in holding for a program. I got discharged and went straight to the next skate friendly program with a short stop over night at the motel for drugs and groups sex.

I moved to the south end from there. Good times good times.

[Thebird]

Just out of curiosity, anybody know which model Shanahan skates?

[oliknight]

What 8.38s are you guys enjoying with Venture?

Limosine Cyrus Bennett
No more board madness, it’s not too wide, not too narrow, nice and short wheelbase, trucks fit perrrrrfectly, can’t see myself switching from this setup ever really.

Happy days.

[Boog]

Just out of curiosity, anybody know which model Shanahan skates?

I think he rides 5.2 lows. 

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Just out of curiosity, anybody know which model Shanahan skates?

At some point, one of those now defunct ig accounts that detailed setups of the pros had something on him and I think he rode 8” board on 5.6 lights