Venture 2020

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

[close]

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.

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yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?

[close]

thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around

[close]

I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.

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was running 97a supercush but they are harder to find now
switched to 98a doh dohs

no clue what hard bottom soft top feels like

how are you liking the dohdohs vs the supercush?

[munchbox]

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

[close]

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.

[close]

yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?

[close]

thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around

[close]

I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.

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was running 97a supercush but they are harder to find now
switched to 98a doh dohs

no clue what hard bottom soft top feels like

[close]

how are you liking the dohdohs vs the supercush?

they are good but do prefer supercush
hard to really say since they might never fully return
solid alternative until dlx sorts that out

[Xen]

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

[close]

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.

[close]

yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?

[close]

thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around

[close]

I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.

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was running 97a supercush but they are harder to find now
switched to 98a doh dohs

no clue what hard bottom soft top feels like

Personally, I hate it, hard bottom means you are turning less (which is fine if you want tight trucks) and a soft tops means less rebound/snap to center when you do turn; it's the opposite of what ACE does with their dual duro and it feels floopy to me.

My fav top for vents is a bones hard as it squishes down pretty nice, doesn't blow out and you don't really need a top washer (allowing Ventures to turn instead of bind). Win win.

Been experimenting with Indy black bottoms (94a) vs Bones hard (96a) bottoms, both with bones hard top; jury is still out but I'm leaning towards the bones bottom as it gives them just a hair more quicker/initial turn after the lean at the cost of a teeny amount of stabilty.

[Ok]

bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).

[Xen]

bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).

@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?

[ultrabra]

cant find the height of trackers for the life of me

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13rCMIthFb59Y-xrveasWk4GqR9jgd85fXDCIFm3g15I/edit#gid=0

There is some info.

[munchbox]

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bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).

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@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?

have tried bones hards countless times
concluded i cant do conical bottoms
but ill try the tops with the doh doh bottoms
and i think this setup would even out the softer top rebound

bones flat washer as a bottom washer
doh doh 98a bottoms
bones hard 96a tops (maybe shave 1mm off the plastic)
sleeved washer on top

[Xen]

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bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).

[close]

@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?

[close]

have tried bones hards countless times
concluded i cant do conical bottoms
but ill try the tops with the doh doh bottoms
and i think this setup would even out the softer top rebound

bones flat washer as a bottom washer
doh doh 98a bottoms
bones hard 96a tops (maybe shave 1mm off the plastic)
sleeved washer on top

Without knowing your weight/how tight you skated (assuming you like tight with the hard bushings) the bones tops compresses really fast, especially with hards (which is weird); you might get away without any modification.

I hear you on the conical bottoms, it forces a different feel than what was designed (like conicals in indy, or barrelt in thunders - just, don't...)

ACE HARD Lows will work in ventures, bottom too (it is shorter tho), and it doesn't throw them off that much; or just buy two sets and swap in the low top.

[Banned from the room]

tracker 2024?

Haha. They don't got the juice.

What are we gonna say. Freds first sponsor and they broke orange man.

Took Crux 14 years to put him halfway back together again

[munchbox]

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bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).

[close]

@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?

[close]

have tried bones hards countless times
concluded i cant do conical bottoms
but ill try the tops with the doh doh bottoms
and i think this setup would even out the softer top rebound

bones flat washer as a bottom washer
doh doh 98a bottoms
bones hard 96a tops (maybe shave 1mm off the plastic)
sleeved washer on top

[close]

Without knowing your weight/how tight you skated (assuming you like tight with the hard bushings) the bones tops compresses really fast, especially with hards (which is weird); you might get away without any modification.

I hear you on the conical bottoms, it forces a different feel than what was designed (like conicals in indy, or barrelt in thunders - just, don't...)

ACE HARD Lows will work in ventures, bottom too (it is shorter tho), and it doesn't throw them off that much; or just buy two sets and swap in the low top.

i definitely dont ride loose but idk if tight is the right word
im 6’6 and hover around 205-210 lbs
turning is way easier than you would think
a little lean does a lot with my build
anything sub 96a is pretty much out of the question, ABD

id say i like to avoid constant landing wheelbite
56mm radial fulls with forged ventures traumatized me
which made me break out an angle grinder in the first place
back on 52mm with 53 being my max
but now have to work around a ground down kingpin

conicals with ventures doesnt feel too off
but with my center of gravity, stability means everything
maybe if i weighed 40lbs less…but id look emaciated

[Xen]

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bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).

[close]

@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?

[close]

have tried bones hards countless times
concluded i cant do conical bottoms
but ill try the tops with the doh doh bottoms
and i think this setup would even out the softer top rebound

bones flat washer as a bottom washer
doh doh 98a bottoms
bones hard 96a tops (maybe shave 1mm off the plastic)
sleeved washer on top

[close]

Without knowing your weight/how tight you skated (assuming you like tight with the hard bushings) the bones tops compresses really fast, especially with hards (which is weird); you might get away without any modification.

I hear you on the conical bottoms, it forces a different feel than what was designed (like conicals in indy, or barrelt in thunders - just, don't...)

ACE HARD Lows will work in ventures, bottom too (it is shorter tho), and it doesn't throw them off that much; or just buy two sets and swap in the low top.

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i definitely dont ride loose but idk if tight is the right word
im 6’6 and hover around 205-210 lbs
turning is way easier than you would think
a little lean does a lot with my build
anything sub 96a is pretty much out of the question, ABD

id say i like to avoid constant landing wheelbite
56mm radial fulls with forged ventures traumatized me
which made me break out an angle grinder in the first place
back on 52mm with 53 being my max
but now have to work around a ground down kingpin

conicals with ventures doesnt feel too off
but with my center of gravity, stability means everything
maybe if i weighed 40lbs less…but id look emaciated

Same, anything less than 94a is wheelbite city and yeah, being on the heavier side, turning is way easier, even with hard bushings. It's why I moved to Ventures in the first place.

Prefer the pop of forged Ventures so I'm trapped at 52mm or less.

[Lukabrazi]

anyone want a pair of one time used 5.2 Hollow Light Hi's for cheap?

[theloniousmonk]

anyone want a pair of one time used 5.2 Hollow Light Hi's for cheap?

Yes , I’ll pm you

[FrenchSkater]

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i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.

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I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D

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Either Lows are their best selling truck or they're cutting back production on Lows to focus on the His - Lows are usually sold out on online stores.

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From talking to some shops people, they will just not order any more low trucks, as they don't sell for them, in the same way they don't order smaller than 52 mm wheels, which might sell out the fastest too, but even Indy mids are being cleared out of some bigger shops just because they have way too much stock and need to get rid of them.

Once the low truck on a sub 8" board with 50 or 51 mm wheels might have been the ideal setup for tech dudes, but that is long gone, replaced by more people riding 8.25 through 8.38 to 8.5 and bigger, on any normal sized trucks on wheels anywhere from 52 mm through 53 and 54 mm sizes up to 60 mm in some cases.

 I also have the impression that the lows are disappearing little by little. Many pros who were on venture lows are now on v lights, which are considered medium with their 52 mm. (Westgate, PJ Ladd, I confirm because I asked them a few months ago on insta  )

Even small wheels are in decline.. But I agree that 52 mm is the right compromise!

[backside_frontside]

Damn, kids these days don’t even want to skate Venture Los SMH

[munchbox]

we do
not everyone is riding sub 8” boards
to say the least

[theloniousmonk]

One idea to get a little more width out of the 5.2 lo’s could be to run those Andy Anderson wheels or maybe add one of those axle spacers with a slim titanium axle nut

[rocklobster]

One idea to get a little more width out of the 5.2 lo’s could be to run those Andy Anderson wheels or maybe add one of those axle spacers with a slim titanium axle nut

I admire the ingenuity but it's just not the same 🥲

2024 is not looking like the year of Venture unless they finally give us the 5.6 / 5.8 / 6.1 Low the 2 dozen of us are clamoring for!

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i dunno. i have my strong doubts on how many would ride the lo’s, even in bigger sizes.
it would totally be possible for someone to ride an 8.38, 5.2 lo’s w/3 inside washers, 52 conical fulls. haven’t seen anyone do it yet.
when i buy lo’s, or buy wheels for said trucks, and out myself, shop dudes look like i just landed. i could see them setting up a board with no griptape with less side eye.


for me, the issue with lower trucks is more about the wheel size, and being limited on spots, not the width.
i understand that i am a smaller adult (5’8” 175, size 10-10.5), so its not like i ‘need’ an 8.75 or whatever

[munchbox]

i dunno. i have my strong doubts on how many would ride the lo’s, even in bigger sizes.
it would totally be possible for someone to ride an 8.38, 5.2 lo’s w/3 inside washers, 52 conical fulls. haven’t seen anyone do it yet.
when i buy lo’s, or buy wheels for said trucks, and out myself, shop dudes look like i just landed. i could see them setting up a board with no griptape with less side eye.


for me, the issue with lower trucks is more about the wheel size, and being limited on spots, not the width.
i understand that i am a smaller adult (5’8” 175, size 10-10.5), so its not like i ‘need’ an 8.75 or whatever

yuto rides them on pretty much anything
just make him the face of the campaign and they will sell
fail proof given his current pull if thats the main concern

that 8.38/5.2L setup sounds horrible
try it out if you have the equipment
you would quickly see why larger sizes are wanted

this was my attempt with an 8.5
& the wheels are 6.5mm wider than 52mm conical fulls
no solution to undersized hangers
also magic carpet with low trucks fucking blows
like yeah reynolds ran 8.5/139s, but those are 55mm tall

as for the weird looks in the shop
check my sig and recall the interaction but being real
you seem like a good dude so dont take this the wrong way
the funny looks make sense, at least the way i imagine it

guy in his 40s walks in talking about lows and small wheels…
this can either be one of two things off rip:
a) nostalgia trip akin to people who buy santa cruz reissues
b) the goat that ive yet to see
i naturally would squint, like who the fuck is this?
chuckling or rolling my eyes could also be valid responses
that persons reaction to me would answer a/b

i probably have about 5 other jokes for that one
but i digress, theres a more glaring issue

venture lows are not “any old truck”
you request them with complete confidence
and a slight air of mystery
i wish i was making this up but they have this pedigree
that honestly no other truck on the market has
which is probably why dlx isnt rushing to fuck with them
its not like they need to

no other truck has this cabal, pros and joes
where the riders are outright doing the marketing
and keeping them alive and well. its THEIR truck

these are not quiver people
they are built different from almost everyone here
you wont catch them on another truck
proving yourself as an outsider is hilariously simple
anyone i asked about them just called them “ventures”
if i didnt know any better, thats on me
its the club inside the club

outside of the one person i skated with that swore by them
theres a small amount of times that ive seen them in the wild
but the memory of who was running them stays

the last joe i saw with lows pulled up, popular soho spot
was at least 10 years older than everyone there
orange blank and you know the truck when you see em
effortlessly nollie flip overcrooked the ledge first t no warmup
i sat my ass down, grabbed a beer and proceeded to watch
some of the best skating ive ever witnessed
and ive seen my fair share of pros in the streets
dude skated like he ran that setup all his life
thats what i see when i hear “venture low”

its not a truck for everybody to say the least
but the people who love them are lifelong customers
really low stakes given how well other ventures are selling
id think its just a matter of time really

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mmmmmmmm


they are called venture lo’s.

i’ve ridden them, pretty consistently, over the last 25+ish years. i take long breaks from skating, sometimes health related, sometimes work/time related. i am not even good at skating. i often have different setups, sometimes a quiver, sometimes a pile of parts that i’m just putting together to try and feel something.

the reason i mentioned the shop side eye: i don’t think the handfuls of folks on slap would be enough of a reason to have a wider venture lo. maybe it’s just the current trends, but bigger wheels have been in for ahwile, and wheels greater than 52, and low trucks, aren’t the best match. the looks of disbelief told me, perhaps incorrectly, that low trucks are not wanted by the masses. i am in my mid-late 40s, i couldn’t look cool if i really wanted too. when i go to a park, im 30 years older than the majority. i often hate what they are into, there is harmony.

magic carpet leads to less wheelbite. folks will debate this, but i feel strongly that they are incorrect. trucks wider than the board is better for pinch aka desirable wheelbite. with magic carpet the trucks being inset from the edge, i feel like i need to lean further, before i get wheelbite.

yuto is an incredible skater, doing padless 5s on lo’s. i’m not sure if he’s driving the skate trends tho.  kai kishi looks like he’s on the same trucks.
some of the young folks tearing up the contests look like they are on smaller setups, but it’s hard to tell.

[rocklobster]

We need the over 45 slappy crowd to get aboard the Venture train, yeah the metal grinds harder but you feel like an absolute G while doing so. That should increase the addressable market by at least 20 guys.

[sans umbilical]

I just set up my first set of 5.2 Lo's V-Hollow. I'm on an 8.06 Real. I'm coming off of 5.2 Standard. I also have a 6.1 V-Hollow set on an 8.5 Real True Mold and Standard 6.1 on a 9-inch. Gonz Family Affair. The madness is real.

By the way, I'll be 49 on the 9th. I'm a part of the over-45 Slappy crowd too.

[Fartknocker415]

Munchbox over here really making me second guess my setup and contemplating starting over with some venture lows….

[Banned from the room]

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i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.

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I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D

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Either Lows are their best selling truck or they're cutting back production on Lows to focus on the His - Lows are usually sold out on online stores.

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From talking to some shops people, they will just not order any more low trucks, as they don't sell for them, in the same way they don't order smaller than 52 mm wheels, which might sell out the fastest too, but even Indy mids are being cleared out of some bigger shops just because they have way too much stock and need to get rid of them.

Once the low truck on a sub 8" board with 50 or 51 mm wheels might have been the ideal setup for tech dudes, but that is long gone, replaced by more people riding 8.25 through 8.38 to 8.5 and bigger, on any normal sized trucks on wheels anywhere from 52 mm through 53 and 54 mm sizes up to 60 mm in some cases.

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 I also have the impression that the lows are disappearing little by little. Many pros who were on venture lows are now on v lights, which are considered medium with their 52 mm. (Westgate, PJ Ladd, I confirm because I asked them a few months ago on insta  )

Even small wheels are in decline.. But I agree that 52 mm is the right compromise!

No one fuckin answers me on Instagram. That's a lie.

Mike Sinclair talked to me. Offered me a potential responsibility which I had to decline as I was unstable af. Then he sent me hollow trucks before they hit stores.

I'd say I owe.
I should draw something up for um.

[j....soy.....]

The Indy mid, Ace Lo, Slappy trucks….all Covid boom decisions….we got the hollow casts…and a mm off the bushings….thats all we’re getting… it’s over.  If anything Thunder will get the IKP but I wouldn’t hold my breath about any new venture shit…..how about a Bobby Puleo signature headwear?

[rawbertson.]

Am I correct in assuming the number on Ventures an Inch measurement of the Hangar Width?

I am on some really old Ventures from ~2010 for my winter beater rn, I believe they are 5.2's (8" board sits perfect on its side)
I have them really loose and pushed out as much as possible with 2-3 washers on the inside
I am finding if you go really fast, the turning isn't an issue at all. Maybe that goes for any truck though lol.

We need the over 45 slappy crowd to get aboard the Venture train, yeah the metal grinds harder but you feel like an absolute G while doing so. That should increase the addressable market by at least 20 guys.

I am not even 40 yet but I am starting to think it makes a little more sense to ride these than thunders for the type of skating I do. They last A LOT longer... I think Thunder has just got me with their super stacked team and marketing. Seems to me like DLX has just put more money into marketing that brand than Venture. The grind works fine for me, feels similar to Thunder.

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The Indy mid, Ace Lo, Slappy trucks….all Covid boom decisions….we got the hollow casts…and a mm off the bushings….thats all we’re getting… it’s over.  If anything Thunder will get the IKP but I wouldn’t hold my breath about any new venture shit…..how about a Bobby Puleo signature headwear?

if someone really wanted a low truck, wide, ace makes the 60s.
indy mids have their issues but they had those in wide sizes.
i’ve skated 151 thunder hollow lights, those worked well.

i’ll buy wide lo’s if they make em.


just bought x97s, 52s, as an attempt to only skate my beloved 5.2 L’s

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A Ben D campaign is the only hope.....

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The Indy mid, Ace Lo, Slappy trucks….all Covid boom decisions….we got the hollow casts…and a mm off the bushings….thats all we’re getting… it’s over.  If anything Thunder will get the IKP but I wouldn’t hold my breath about any new venture shit…..how about a Bobby Puleo signature headwear?

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if someone really wanted a low truck, wide, ace makes the 60s.
indy mids have their issues but they had those in wide sizes.
i’ve skated 151 thunder hollow lights, those worked well.

i’ll buy wide lo’s if they make em.


just bought x97s, 52s, as an attempt to only skate my beloved 5.2 L’s

149 Forged Indy mids are soo nice - Shame they didn't make any without the IKP. They should have just made a 52mm cast Mindy, no IKP, no beefed up hanger...along side the forged mindys for those that want a low (50.5mm is fine).