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i don’t think any of you are real, i think slap was invented by my mom to make me think people want to talk to me
Quote from: TwisT on March 02, 2021, 08:27:20 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: gsosa on March 02, 2021, 08:02:21 AMExpand QuoteHomie just needs a fat check, as mentioned before he's never ridden for good board companies (nor has he needed them) and still has been producing and killing shit. I mean mid-2000s Birdhouse, then Zoo when it was wack, and then Element not really the dopest board brands.[close]Naw, there was hot minute, that ZooYork was the shit Forrest, Westgate, Zerred, KT, Eli, Matt Miller, Barely and Ortiz. I wanna say from 2009 to 2011. Post Zooyork footwear era, but pre "why do we need to pay skateboarders?" era. They really had it together. Right before and right after State of mind came out.[close]Yeah, I would agree with that. There was a little window of time right around State of Mind that Zoo was dope again. That video is so good. My favourite Zered part. Ron Deily! Eli before he started dancing. First legit introduction to Westgate. And no, Westgate does not need to be on Real. Tbh, it would seem weird. If he weren't on Element, I could see him riding for Habitat or someone like that maybe.
Quote from: gsosa on March 02, 2021, 08:02:21 AMExpand QuoteHomie just needs a fat check, as mentioned before he's never ridden for good board companies (nor has he needed them) and still has been producing and killing shit. I mean mid-2000s Birdhouse, then Zoo when it was wack, and then Element not really the dopest board brands.[close]Naw, there was hot minute, that ZooYork was the shit Forrest, Westgate, Zerred, KT, Eli, Matt Miller, Barely and Ortiz. I wanna say from 2009 to 2011. Post Zooyork footwear era, but pre "why do we need to pay skateboarders?" era. They really had it together. Right before and right after State of mind came out.[close]
Homie just needs a fat check, as mentioned before he's never ridden for good board companies (nor has he needed them) and still has been producing and killing shit. I mean mid-2000s Birdhouse, then Zoo when it was wack, and then Element not really the dopest board brands.[close]
Quote from: TheFandangler on March 02, 2021, 08:54:21 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: Kombuch-A-Holic on March 02, 2021, 08:37:23 AMExpand QuoteGood GOD NO! lol I could see this tho for sure tho. I'd rather see him on Plan B that Real. Real needs to get it together. I guess you don't have to when you have Ishod. Quote from: CHUTNi on March 02, 2021, 08:13:23 AMExpand QuoteCould see Westgate on semi-retirement after his element contract. Casually repping 5boro again while maintaining his cranberry farm [close][close]I mean, I don't disagree that Real's team is huge, but in what way does Real need to "get it together"? They just put on the guy who won SOTY, their distribution is probably the most respected in the industry, they have Busenitz, TVV is amazing to watch, pretty sure they still hook up Antoine Asselin, Ishod like you mentioned, the list goes on. Why would you rather see someone as dope as Westgate on a dumpster fire brand like PLan B? I understand that some of Real's art direction is boring, but it doesn't even come close to the garbage put out by Plan B. Think of it this way, who would you rather see Westgate skate with: Leticia, Joslin and Pat Duffy; or Ishod, Mason and Busenitz?I don't even think he would fit on Real that well, but what you're saying is ridiculous.[close]Westgate has reached a height the only way he could generate more visibility is going the && route and started organically connecting with people more. It does not really fucking matter from a monetary perspective I bet because I guarantee Deluxe would salary match, so from his standpoint business wise, then it becomes a visibility standpoint unless his other sponsors are coupled(like FA and modern shoes, Lakai with Girl, etc.) because the price difference comes down to royalties. Why do you guys think Lebron did not consider my spurs? NBA players get paid on jersey royalty unlike other pro sports leagues, so he's gonna pick the biggest media market. At least with element he does not have to compete with Ishod, Kwalks, or whoever's money, and his visbility is less. why in his right mind would he go to real? The only logical option he would have at his level would to go into intellectual property for himself, IE instagram and social media visbility, and his OWN branding. if he did in fact want to achieve more financially.
Quote from: Kombuch-A-Holic on March 02, 2021, 08:37:23 AMExpand QuoteGood GOD NO! lol I could see this tho for sure tho. I'd rather see him on Plan B that Real. Real needs to get it together. I guess you don't have to when you have Ishod. Quote from: CHUTNi on March 02, 2021, 08:13:23 AMExpand QuoteCould see Westgate on semi-retirement after his element contract. Casually repping 5boro again while maintaining his cranberry farm [close][close]I mean, I don't disagree that Real's team is huge, but in what way does Real need to "get it together"? They just put on the guy who won SOTY, their distribution is probably the most respected in the industry, they have Busenitz, TVV is amazing to watch, pretty sure they still hook up Antoine Asselin, Ishod like you mentioned, the list goes on. Why would you rather see someone as dope as Westgate on a dumpster fire brand like PLan B? I understand that some of Real's art direction is boring, but it doesn't even come close to the garbage put out by Plan B. Think of it this way, who would you rather see Westgate skate with: Leticia, Joslin and Pat Duffy; or Ishod, Mason and Busenitz?I don't even think he would fit on Real that well, but what you're saying is ridiculous.[close]
Good GOD NO! lol I could see this tho for sure tho. I'd rather see him on Plan B that Real. Real needs to get it together. I guess you don't have to when you have Ishod. Quote from: CHUTNi on March 02, 2021, 08:13:23 AMExpand QuoteCould see Westgate on semi-retirement after his element contract. Casually repping 5boro again while maintaining his cranberry farm [close][close]
Could see Westgate on semi-retirement after his element contract. Casually repping 5boro again while maintaining his cranberry farm [close]
make your own meat spin!
Quote from: TheFandangler on March 02, 2021, 08:42:47 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: TwisT on March 02, 2021, 08:27:20 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: gsosa on March 02, 2021, 08:02:21 AMExpand QuoteHomie just needs a fat check, as mentioned before he's never ridden for good board companies (nor has he needed them) and still has been producing and killing shit. I mean mid-2000s Birdhouse, then Zoo when it was wack, and then Element not really the dopest board brands.[close]Naw, there was hot minute, that ZooYork was the shit Forrest, Westgate, Zerred, KT, Eli, Matt Miller, Barely and Ortiz. I wanna say from 2009 to 2011. Post Zooyork footwear era, but pre "why do we need to pay skateboarders?" era. They really had it together. Right before and right after State of mind came out.[close]Yeah, I would agree with that. There was a little window of time right around State of Mind that Zoo was dope again. That video is so good. My favourite Zered part. Ron Deily! Eli before he started dancing. First legit introduction to Westgate. And no, Westgate does not need to be on Real. Tbh, it would seem weird. If he weren't on Element, I could see him riding for Habitat or someone like that maybe.[close]Dnag I actually forgot about that, I retract my statement he was on Zoo when it was dope. I used to watch State of Mind all the time and suscribed to their video podcast they had really good content. The only acceptable answer for me would if he went to Toy Machine. But as stated before it seems like he does not give a flying fuck about whats cool.
Quote from: TwisT on March 02, 2021, 08:27:20 AMExpand QuoteQuote from: gsosa on March 02, 2021, 08:02:21 AMExpand QuoteHomie just needs a fat check, as mentioned before he's never ridden for good board companies (nor has he needed them) and still has been producing and killing shit. I mean mid-2000s Birdhouse, then Zoo when it was wack, and then Element not really the dopest board brands.[close]Naw, there was hot minute, that ZooYork was the shit Forrest, Westgate, Zerred, KT, Eli, Matt Miller, Barely and Ortiz. I wanna say from 2009 to 2011. Post Zooyork footwear era, but pre "why do we need to pay skateboarders?" era. They really had it together. Right before and right after State of mind came out.[close]Yeah, I would agree with that. There was a little window of time right around State of Mind that Zoo was dope again. That video is so good. My favourite Zered part. Ron Deily! Eli before he started dancing. First legit introduction to Westgate. And no, Westgate does not need to be on Real. Tbh, it would seem weird. If he weren't on Element, I could see him riding for Habitat or someone like that maybe.[close]
Quote from: Kombuch-A-Holic on March 02, 2021, 08:37:23 AMExpand QuoteGood GOD NO! lol I could see this tho for sure tho. I'd rather see him on Plan B that Real. Real needs to get it together. I guess you don't have to when you have Ishod. Quote from: CHUTNi on March 02, 2021, 08:13:23 AMExpand QuoteCould see Westgate on semi-retirement after his element contract. Casually repping 5boro again while maintaining his cranberry farm [close][close]I mean, I don't disagree that Real's team is huge, but in what way does Real need to "get it together"? They just put on the guy who won SOTY, their distribution is probably the most respected in the industry, they have Busenitz, TVV is amazing to watch, pretty sure they still hook up Antoine Asselin, Ishod like you mentioned, the list goes on. Why would you rather see someone as dope as Westgate on a dumpster fire brand like PLan B? I understand that some of Real's art direction is boring, but it doesn't even come close to the garbage put out by Plan B. Think of it this way, who would you rather see Westgate skate with: Leticia, Joslin and Pat Duffy; or Ishod, Mason and Busenitz?I don't even think he would fit on Real that well, but what you're saying is ridiculous.
Westgate goes big, fast, doesn't care, doesn't produce a ton of footage, and basically owns SF.....Anti-Hero
Damn I left my bubbler at my parents house
Quote from: jorge on March 02, 2021, 10:54:39 AMExpand QuoteWestgate goes big, fast, doesn't care, doesn't produce a ton of footage, and basically owns SF.....Anti-Hero[close]Yea Bog city, Crantards or Bog Money Vagrant slap if he's in em'
Westgate goes big, fast, doesn't care, doesn't produce a ton of footage, and basically owns SF.....Anti-Hero[close]
Would buy his Toy Machine board in a second, also, what the fuck happened to Toy Machine? I wish they were still relevant.
Real already has had 3 of their own version of Brandon Westgate. His Their name(s) is were Huf, Busenitz, and Mason Silva
Quote from: witty pseudonym on March 02, 2021, 12:07:20 PMExpand QuoteWould buy his Toy Machine board in a second, also, what the fuck happened to Toy Machine? I wish they were still relevant. [close]Their team is kinda relevant but somehow not related to the company at all, mostly through the shoe sponsors. The ones I remember are Leo and Provost for Emerica and Dan for Vans. I think the only one that brought any attention to it was Axel, I don't recall seeing him in anything not related to Toy.
Would buy his Toy Machine board in a second, also, what the fuck happened to Toy Machine? I wish they were still relevant. [close]
Quote from: Brguy on March 02, 2021, 01:36:02 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: witty pseudonym on March 02, 2021, 12:07:20 PMExpand QuoteWould buy his Toy Machine board in a second, also, what the fuck happened to Toy Machine? I wish they were still relevant. [close]Their team is kinda relevant but somehow not related to the company at all, mostly through the shoe sponsors. The ones I remember are Leo and Provost for Emerica and Dan for Vans. I think the only one that brought any attention to it was Axel, I don't recall seeing him in anything not related to Toy.[close]Ehhh Provost is the only one who turns out footage consistently. Whether you like him or not is a separate issue. Myles is someone I’ve heard is good and I like what I’ve seen, but he hasn’t really put out a part to elevate himself. CJ Collins I’m sure is relevant if you’re into the contest scene and Blake i can’t get a read on if anyone cares. Axel disappeared after getting on Vans, and the rest (Leo, Billy, Harmony, Leabres, Lutheran), I assume are still on bc Ed doesn’t really pay attention.
Quote from: witty pseudonym on March 02, 2021, 12:07:20 PMExpand QuoteWould buy his Toy Machine board in a second, also, what the fuck happened to Toy Machine? I wish they were still relevant. [close]Their team is kinda relevant but somehow not related to the company at all, mostly through the shoe sponsors. The ones I remember are Leo and Provost for Emerica and Dan for Vans. I think the only one that brought any attention to it was Axel, I don't recall seeing him in anything not related to Toy.[close]
Quote from: Atiba Applebum on March 02, 2021, 01:51:53 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Brguy on March 02, 2021, 01:36:02 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: witty pseudonym on March 02, 2021, 12:07:20 PMExpand QuoteWould buy his Toy Machine board in a second, also, what the fuck happened to Toy Machine? I wish they were still relevant. [close]Their team is kinda relevant but somehow not related to the company at all, mostly through the shoe sponsors. The ones I remember are Leo and Provost for Emerica and Dan for Vans. I think the only one that brought any attention to it was Axel, I don't recall seeing him in anything not related to Toy.[close]Ehhh Provost is the only one who turns out footage consistently. Whether you like him or not is a separate issue. Myles is someone I’ve heard is good and I like what I’ve seen, but he hasn’t really put out a part to elevate himself. CJ Collins I’m sure is relevant if you’re into the contest scene and Blake i can’t get a read on if anyone cares. Axel disappeared after getting on Vans, and the rest (Leo, Billy, Harmony, Leabres, Lutheran), I assume are still on bc Ed doesn’t really pay attention. [close]Leo, Leabres, and Dan are way more relevant than Billy and Harmony.
Quote from: Brguy on March 02, 2021, 01:36:02 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: witty pseudonym on March 02, 2021, 12:07:20 PMExpand QuoteWould buy his Toy Machine board in a second, also, what the fuck happened to Toy Machine? I wish they were still relevant. [close]Their team is kinda relevant but somehow not related to the company at all, mostly through the shoe sponsors. The ones I remember are Leo and Provost for Emerica and Dan for Vans. I think the only one that brought any attention to it was Axel, I don't recall seeing him in anything not related to Toy.[close]Ehhh Provost is the only one who turns out footage consistently. Whether you like him or not is a separate issue. Myles is someone I’ve heard is good and I like what I’ve seen, but he hasn’t really put out a part to elevate himself. CJ Collins I’m sure is relevant if you’re into the contest scene and Blake i can’t get a read on if anyone cares. Axel disappeared after getting on Vans, and the rest (Leo, Billy, Harmony, Leabres, Lutheran), I assume are still on bc Ed doesn’t really pay attention. [close]
Serious question: Does Element stay profitable by being some kind of lifestyle brand now, or what? Because practically no one skates Element boards as far as I can tell, but I also don't just see regular people out in the wild wearing Element stuff. How do they make money to pay a skate team?
he seems to have total freedom with element. they give him his space to film when and how he pleases. he probably can just grab whatever filmer and take (or not) whatever trips he wants no questions asked. plus he probably never has to worry about the checks being "late" or suspicious accounting. why would he leave a good thing for a "cool" thing? in return element gets a self driven skater who can self-promote, never complains, doesn't need special attention, and they never really have to worry about him piling out or saying something dumb shit on social media. its a win-win
Quote from: tortfeasor on March 02, 2021, 10:35:53 AMExpand Quotehe seems to have total freedom with element. they give him his space to film when and how he pleases. he probably can just grab whatever filmer and take (or not) whatever trips he wants no questions asked. plus he probably never has to worry about the checks being "late" or suspicious accounting. why would he leave a good thing for a "cool" thing? in return element gets a self driven skater who can self-promote, never complains, doesn't need special attention, and they never really have to worry about him piling out or saying something dumb shit on social media. its a win-win[close]I think Element used to be like that, I doubt their financials are that great anymore given the mass exodus. But, I'm sure NB# lets him do whatever he wants considering he's a New England kid and probably their flagship guy since PJ doesn't produce much. Westgate and Tom Knox are probably their most productive and known pros. I guess Foy too.
he seems to have total freedom with element. they give him his space to film when and how he pleases. he probably can just grab whatever filmer and take (or not) whatever trips he wants no questions asked. plus he probably never has to worry about the checks being "late" or suspicious accounting. why would he leave a good thing for a "cool" thing? in return element gets a self driven skater who can self-promote, never complains, doesn't need special attention, and they never really have to worry about him piling out or saying something dumb shit on social media. its a win-win[close]