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[Mbrimson88]

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anyone wanna venture a guess what pepper's grit # is?

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When ever I tell someone that Pepper is like Jessup with Mob holes they say I hit it on the nail


Even in the sandpaper business one company's 80 grit is going to different from another's. For all we know they might all thank their selling us 80 grit

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found a sheet of jessup & had a sheet of pepper and they do feel similar under thumb. not scientific obviously, but this makes sense

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Generator makes perforated grip for several companies and shops and to me that feels identical to Pepper and the new Shake Junt Onyx. They all have the same color paper, same perforation spacing, and I can't tell a difference. My guess is it's all the same thing from the same place.

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i can get behind this theory

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I’d like one step down from mob, in grit.
I am used to jessup, but these days I keep boards FOREVER. I skate boards that are 10 years old some days. And I’ve been skating in dunks. Mob is a bit much, but when I circle back to some deck that’s been under the bed for a few years, it works out a bit better

I do think shoe choice has a lot to do with how grip tape feels as well.


Simple Vans for me and Jessup is just perfect, from new for ramp and transition, then more all rounder / street boards when older and worn in, but like you said, some boards that are so old and well worn are still great with Jessup from when I first set them up well over a decade ago, compared to some other grip which just doesn't hold up that long.  Mob also holds up just as long, but feels nicer with a slight dusting off before use, even though it is still a bit too grippy for my liking.

Mob and other more coarse grit just tear my shoes to bits, thumbs too, or anything else it touches, but I can also see how people who ride more solid soled shoes need that untouched extra grit to keep things in check.

[Bror]

How is Pepper Grip compated to mob & jessup ultra?

I like the jessup ultra most, mob is nice too ofc but prefer ultra as it's a little bit easier on the shoes

[manysnakes]

Generator makes perforated grip for several companies and shops and to me that feels identical to Pepper and the new Shake Junt Onyx. They all have the same color paper, same perforation spacing, and I can't tell a difference. My guess is it's all the same thing from the same place.

For as many skateboard manufacturers as there are, there are going to be even fewer grip tape makers, so I buy this.

[Firebert]

I do think shoe choice has a lot to do with how grip tape feels as well.

Simple Vans for me and Jessup is just perfect....more solid soled shoes need that untouched extra grit to keep things in check.

100 - new balance cupsoles with mob works perfectly

[j....soy.....]

yeah, this makes sense, my ankles just hurt thinking about doing a kick flip with mob and half cabs.....

I can just feel the board pulling back on my foot.

I'm a mob/cup guy....I like the extra grippiness and it stays grippy longer. 

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Yes you three are all correct.
I especially love those new half cab new mob grip moments. The straining of lower leg ligaments, the Half flipped board jammed into the ground and/or shin. Huge fan.
Skating is tight.
If I played an instrument I might still be getting better.

[Rocko]

Does anyone know of a board that has a similar shape to this old Krooked board? Something that’s readily available and not old stock. It reminds me of an old Matt Rodriguez shape

[Plan9Customs]

Does anyone know of a board that has a similar shape to this old Krooked board? Something that’s readily available and not old stock. It reminds me of an old Matt Rodriguez shape

Try hitting up Legend. Sacto board maker and the Gonz/Tommy shape looks fairly close:

He might even have Matt’s shape to make one.

[tom]

Not sure if that was his exact shape at the time, but DLX started making those shortly after he got on Anti Hero. I can't remember who outside of DLX was using it, but Grosso called them out in one of the Loveletters to the effect of "just because the woodshop offers my shape doesn't mean you have to use it". I had a yellow dipped Krooked board with that shape in 2013 and I think it was 8.5 at its widest. The nooner shape may be the closest currently at 9" if you can find one

[tuesday]

Some sites let you filter for shaped decks. Here are some from skatedeluxe.com that seem similar to what you are looking for:

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/poetic-collective-box-8-75-skateboard-deck-navy_p147498?page=6&eav=873%2C749&cPath=42

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/powell-peralta-anderson-heron-s-egg-flight-shape-301-8-7-skateboard-deck-blue_p162252?eav=873%2C749&cPath=42

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/creature-navarrette-3-skulls-pro-8-8-skateboard-deck-multi_p161875?eav=873%2C749&cPath=42

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/uma-landsleds-sign-language-8-5-skateboard-deck-yellow_p146027?page=2&eav=873%2C749&cPath=42

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/uma-landsleds-smith-the-remnants-8-625-skateboard-deck-multi_p157205?page=6&eav=873%2C749&cPath=42

[rawbertson.]

is there an easy way to tell the difference of the skate vs. non skate Converse? i am guessing they have different insoles and that would be an easy way to tell

[DERBY]

is there an easy way to tell the difference of the skate vs. non skate Converse? i am guessing they have different insoles and that would be an easy way to tell

usually says cons on heel or tongue. wish it was a lot easier like the vans checkertab

[rawbertson.]

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is there an easy way to tell the difference of the skate vs. non skate Converse? i am guessing they have different insoles and that would be an easy way to tell

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usually says cons on heel or tongue. wish it was a lot easier like the vans checkertab

whats the vans checkertab?

I understand now - CONS is specifically the skate line of stuff. lol i just thought that was people short forming it. you can clearly see it printed in the insoles of the shoes and on the tongue of the CTAS and Jack Purcell (the two i was really interested in)

the CTAS are tricky because if you cant actually see into the shoe from the photo its harder to tell, especially if its all black. I noticed thinkempire sells both the nonskate version and the skate versions of stuff ( i think?) which is pretty annoying.


example: https://thinkempire.com/collections/men-shoes/products/converse-chuck-70-canvas-hi-black-black-shoes-unisex-co

vs

https://thinkempire.com/collections/men-shoes/products/converse-ct-as-pro-hi-shoes-unisex-co

[Mbrimson88]

Does anyone know of a board that has a similar shape to this old Krooked board? Something that’s readily available and not old stock. It reminds me of an old Matt Rodriguez shape

So from looking it up, that is listed as 8.5 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb board on a couple of sites, not sure if it is the same as the Barney shape, that was about those dimensions, but I think the Barney was listed as 8.48 with shorter wheelbase.  I would have to dig it out to check.

The Barney was a pretty regular shape in the line up for a long time, but I don't think I have seen one for a while, at least not since the Lance skull series boards, which had one for the Phelps / Thrasher graphic.


If you are after 8.5 x 32 or so, there are a few others out there like that, which I can find too.  Some different brands, same woodshop, others different woodshops too, so it depends on what you are after, or how wide your options, eg some people would be happy with wider, bigger, smaller, while others want almost the exact same dimensions.


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I forgot I had one on a wall, so measured it and yes it is about 8.48 to 8.5 x 32.2 with 14.5 wb.

Barney pool shape.


https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-decks-c23/antihero-skateboards-alpha-beta-barney-skateboard-deck-8-5-p22444


https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-decks-c23/anderson-farm-boy-barney-shape-skateboard-deck-8-5-p32714

[lamfordie]

Does anyone know where I can get the clutch popsicle blanks in the O shape?

[Mbrimson88]

Does anyone know where I can get the clutch popsicle blanks in the O shape?

What size or "product number", eg O 7 = 8.25 are you after?

Even hit up Clutch directly if you can't find any other suitable option.


https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1


Ryan Gallant has a blank supply of Clutch boards, not sure what options though, but you can check with him, or even through his printing company too:

https://blankchecksupply.com/


https://www.instagram.com/rgwoods.co/

rg woods co
Product/service
Custom skateboard printing by Ryan Gallant
For current pricing and turn around time email [email protected]


LB Skate shop had some - not blanks, but they are cheap right now.  Check with them as to which boards are that shape.  Others like @rocklobster or someone had said that is what they were.


Not sure who else would have them, without having to get minimum order quantities, so if it is just for you, getting 25 or so decks might be a bit much.

[SupremePizza]

I went from skating an 8.25 Girl on venture 5.6 highs w/53mm girl wheels to 8.25 FA on same trucks w/ spitfire 56mm classics. I like the squared shape and shorter tail, and it feels easier popping onto ledges however my flip tricks are not as consistent as they were on the girl. Is it the deck, increase in wheel size, or trucks that are throwing me off? I don't want to go down the madness hole and was thinking I'll get used to it eventually, I've only had 3 sessions on it so far.

[LebowskisRug]

i was going thru a pile of skated decks and pulled both a DOA flat as fuck and and orchard Robbie Gangemi.

Gangemi is 8.5/14WB, short and pretty flat. I skated it briefly and wasn't super stoked on it. It felt non-responsive and heavy.

DOA is 8.5/14.25WB and has more kicks than the Gangemi. Still, this was a board that felt sluggish as well. Felt heavy.

They're both in good shape and I wanna see if they'll be my bread and buttah for getting the ever elusive tre flip compared with my current fave shape, Real Full SE, 8.5/14.38WB, which is far steeper, feels lighter, and pops nice and high.

All that said, aside from getting into truck madness- i'm not dicking around with trucks- what do I gotta do to adjust to these flatter, short WB shapes?

Try popping harder with feet closer to the bolts.

[notinternetfamous]

I went from skating an 8.25 Girl on venture 5.6 highs w/53mm girl wheels to 8.25 FA on same trucks w/ spitfire 56mm classics. I like the squared shape and shorter tail, and it feels easier popping onto ledges however my flip tricks are not as consistent as they were on the girl. Is it the deck, increase in wheel size, or trucks that are throwing me off? I don't want to go down the madness hole and was thinking I'll get used to it eventually, I've only had 3 sessions on it so far.

it's probably multiple factors but my guess would be the wheel size plus the concave/shape of the FA which is a lot different than crail shapes

[roll_dog]

i was going thru a pile of skated decks and pulled both a DOA flat as fuck and and orchard Robbie Gangemi.

Gangemi is 8.5/14WB, short and pretty flat. I skated it briefly and wasn't super stoked on it. It felt non-responsive and heavy.

DOA is 8.5/14.25WB and has more kicks than the Gangemi. Still, this was a board that felt sluggish as well. Felt heavy.

They're both in good shape and I wanna see if they'll be my bread and buttah for getting the ever elusive tre flip compared with my current fave shape, Real Full SE, 8.5/14.38WB, which is far steeper, feels lighter, and pops nice and high.

All that said, aside from getting into truck madness- i'm not dicking around with trucks- what do I gotta do to adjust to these flatter, short WB shapes?

I don't have an answer for ya, but I can't help wonder why you are trying to make different equipment work for you? No sense forcing it...seems like madness for madness sake.

[pizzafliptofakie]

Here's one for the 9-5ers. (or anyone that skates in the evening.) Do y'all skate before dinner or after?


I'm always antsy when I get off work and wanna go skate right away, but I find a lot of times if I do I have a little less energy and the session suffers. Whereas if I eat an early enough meal, digest and decompress, I'll usually skate better as long as I don't eat something crazy.



Y'all got any evening rituals like that?

[fakiefs180]

Here's one for the 9-5ers. (or anyone that skates in the evening.) Do y'all skate before dinner or after?


I'm always antsy when I get off work and wanna go skate right away, but I find a lot of times if I do I have a little less energy and the session suffers. Whereas if I eat an early enough meal, digest and decompress, I'll usually skate better as long as I don't eat something crazy.



Y'all got any evening rituals like that?

When I plan to skate after work I usually eat lunch because I can't eat something and immediately go skate.
So dinner is after the session for me. And sometimes it is nice to get a Kebab with the boys after the session.

[Easy Slider]

Either empty stomach or immediately after eating before digestion sets in.

[kook1234]

Here's one for the 9-5ers. (or anyone that skates in the evening.) Do y'all skate before dinner or after?


I'm always antsy when I get off work and wanna go skate right away, but I find a lot of times if I do I have a little less energy and the session suffers. Whereas if I eat an early enough meal, digest and decompress, I'll usually skate better as long as I don't eat something crazy.



Y'all got any evening rituals like that?

depends on the time of the year.  during winter months, I go as soon as possible to get as much remaining daylight as possible.  this makes it easy to eat after.  during the summer, I wait for it to cool down a bit and head out around 7.  my sessions are about 2 hours typically so this gets me home as its getting too dark to skate.  this makes it easy to eat before.

its a good idea to try and have the biggest meal of the day in the morning, followed by the second biggest meal at lunch, and then a light dinner.

[SupremePizza]

Here's one for the 9-5ers. (or anyone that skates in the evening.) Do y'all skate before dinner or after?


I'm always antsy when I get off work and wanna go skate right away, but I find a lot of times if I do I have a little less energy and the session suffers. Whereas if I eat an early enough meal, digest and decompress, I'll usually skate better as long as I don't eat something crazy.



Y'all got any evening rituals like that?

7:30-4 guy here. I'm usually starving by that time and work from home 3 days a week. I'll at least have a snack or protein shake if I'm skating after work. Otherwise I tend to eat after work and give myself 30 minutes to an hour to digest. I eat vegetarian, so for other diets it might be different

[pizzafliptofakie]

Thanks for the responses. Some interesting insights.


I think my problem is that I eat too little early in the day and then sorta backload my meals at the end. Probably not the most sustainable way to go through the day.

[Ourladyoftheflowers]

Thanks for the responses. Some interesting insights.


I think my problem is that I eat too little early in the day and then sorta backload my meals at the end. Probably not the most sustainable way to go through the day.

I’ll usually do smoothie for lunch and a two egg wrap an hour/half hour before the session. Sometimes bring a protein bar in case I get hungry mid sesh. I work from home so it’s easy to cook before between tasks.

[LebowskisRug]

I usually skate AM before breakfast but with coffee. Generally can skate for <3hrs that way without having some kind of breakfast or snack. I find skating really doesn't require much in the way of specific fueling if its not long because you have so many gaps between physical exertion. I also caveat that with the fact that I do another sport that is somewhat aerobic and I raced bikes for a decade so I'm probably still riding off that general fitness. My ankles/feet often get sore before I get tired.

[WashingtonNECKTIE]

Thanks for the responses. Some interesting insights.


I think my problem is that I eat too little early in the day and then sorta backload my meals at the end. Probably not the most sustainable way to go through the day.

I'm pretty similar, I work 8-430 and try to snag a sesh for an hour or two on the way home. I rarely eat an actual breakfast and eat lunch early, with some light snacks between lunch and close. Sometimes I'll nab some quick protein or carbs (depending on what my body feels like I'm missing) to curb any hunger and not bloat me, but I'm usually alright until dinner at ~7.

Definitely ready for a shower and an actual meal when I got done though!

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i work 7-5, physical labour. i need a couple hours rest before i can get back on the board, if i can get on the board at all. eat around 6 and if i go out to skate its allways after 7:30