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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3870 on: August 29, 2023, 06:07:48 AM »
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Color of bushings is 100% linked to durometer for Independent. Always. Stock or aftermarket bushings. 100% of my personal purchases have confirmed this and I've only skated Indys for the last 13 years.

Orange 90A is the standard default bushing for most of Indy's models, but they occasionally throw red (88A), white (78A), or black (94A) depending on the pro/theme of the truck.

Both of your linked trucks will not be 90A stock if they come in those colors, as far as I'm aware.

I've gotten white bushings stock on AVE trucks years ago and they were noticeably softer because they were truly 78A and not 90A.

If you want 90A durometer, buy a set of bushings on the side to be sure. Avoid the red ones, they try to be softer but end up being less forgiving, ironically. I like the conical aftermarket personally.
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All stock Indy bushings are 90A regardless of color. They’re definitely a looser, bouncier 90A now since the move to China, but the aftermarket blacks and whites don’t feel the same as the stock bushings.

This is what I believed too, because it would be insane for it to be otherwise, but I didn’t actually know for sure so I emailed NHS. Here is the final word on the matter.


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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3871 on: August 29, 2023, 06:30:07 AM »
yeah i was gonna say I tried those Slayer Indy's on my friends board that have the red bushings and they were clearly exactly the same as the stock orange ones. I have the Blue "Medium" bushings (purchased aftermarket, but Indy brand) and you can tell the difference.

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« Reply #3872 on: August 29, 2023, 10:00:41 AM »
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anyone have info on gx1000 boards ? Concave and shape ? Best trucks to pair with them ? I’ve read a few comments on slap that venture lo works best but I’m curious about the concave a lot ……thanks again Slap
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They seem to have both square and popsicle shapes. I don't care for square kicks so I have only stood on the popsicles.

The kicks are fucking lonnnnnng. The nose on the 8.38 is like 7.18 and the tail is a bit under 7. A normal BBS in that size is 6.875 nose and 6.625 tail. So, the boards are also quite long definitely a full 32.25. They end up pointier than you think almost like a Baker. As for trucks I dunno why people would want Venture Lo on boards that large but since the vast majority of the team ride Venture High with massive wheels I would wager that could be a good combo to offset the long kicks (the larger wheels and extended WB of Venture High would make the tail hit at the same time as a normal tail/smaller wheels).

I posted some pics in the Gx1000 thread if you wanna go a few pages back. Lebowski pretty much nailed it. Comparing it to my current FA it's definitely longer by about 0.5", bit more tapered, and not as steep. I still have life on my FA so can't compare how it skates yet but will be pairing it with ventures and 56mm spits

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« Reply #3873 on: August 29, 2023, 11:54:57 AM »
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Really appreciate the reply and details of your experiences, cheers for that Gray Imp Sausage Metal! You've given me some good pointers there to look into too. I went and re-read the RIP Matt Reason thread and it does sound like the impression was that they were a slightly softer compound (it would make sense especially if those guys were also/had been used to using older Powells which I would assume would be around 95-97a?).

This has just been something that I've wondered about for a while as I love the whole aesthetic/skating style of that era. Something appeals to me about trying to find the same kind of wheels/equipment those skaters used just to get a feel of what their limitations/benefits were. I was originally looking at options like Slime Ball 97a's (haven't tried them myself yet) thinking they might give an similar (older/grippier but slightly forgiving) feel, but I would consider checking out some early Loopholes if I see any going for grabs.
Anyway, a big thanks again!
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This ad isn't for Reason's 63mm wheel, but this one set of 57s does have a visible 98 on them.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg



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boom! Great find, I would then assume the 63mm were also 98 which does make sense considering the skating he was doing and also the fact he was riding old Powell stick which was probably closer to 97 than 99. The power of slap!!!

Edit: @Nymphicus hollandicus also hot up sergie on insta, he’s always happy to talk about era-specific setups and what they rode!
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CZwfVtHFXO_/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Some other wheels from around that time are 98 duro too, so that could very well be about it for the duro in question.

Other brands like Spitfire used to have quite a lot of 97 duro wheels, as well as 95 duro back then, way before Soft Ds or other similar wheels came out too, as they were a different formula to the older ones I have.

This was before things went a bit crazy up into the 101 and beyond, with all the different specialised formulas and whatever else was going on in wheel manufacturing at the time.

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Really appreciate the reply and details of your experiences, cheers for that Gray Imp Sausage Metal! You've given me some good pointers there to look into too. I went and re-read the RIP Matt Reason thread and it does sound like the impression was that they were a slightly softer compound (it would make sense especially if those guys were also/had been used to using older Powells which I would assume would be around 95-97a?).

This has just been something that I've wondered about for a while as I love the whole aesthetic/skating style of that era. Something appeals to me about trying to find the same kind of wheels/equipment those skaters used just to get a feel of what their limitations/benefits were. I was originally looking at options like Slime Ball 97a's (haven't tried them myself yet) thinking they might give an similar (older/grippier but slightly forgiving) feel, but I would consider checking out some early Loopholes if I see any going for grabs.
Anyway, a big thanks again!
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This ad isn't for Reason's 63mm wheel, but this one set of 57s does have a visible 98 on them.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SasY1MzYCFI/AAAAAAAADjM/-1qFOKyjl_A/s1600-h/reasonphysics2chrome.jpg



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boom! Great find, I would then assume the 63mm were also 98 which does make sense considering the skating he was doing and also the fact he was riding old Powell stick which was probably closer to 97 than 99. The power of slap!!!

Edit: @Nymphicus hollandicus also hot up sergie on insta, he’s always happy to talk about era-specific setups and what they rode!
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CZwfVtHFXO_/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Hell yeah

Well done finding that Physics wheel advert, it's a brilliant find and so cool looking:) A big thank you everyone for your help answering my question and all the extra info and wheel history, it is really appreciated and interesting stuff which I've made notes of.

PS I don't happen to be on or using instagram yet but if/when I get round to joining it I will certainly reach out and ask more wheel history related questions for sure!

Cheers and all the best from me in the UK!

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3874 on: August 29, 2023, 03:48:34 PM »
Honestly, I find it so odd that Independent (and other brands too) color code their bushings for different durometers and then throw that out the window when it comes to the stock bushings. They don't really state anywhere that all bushings are 90A regardless of color unless you ask (like the photos a Pal posted above) or dig for it like we're doing here.

Thanks everyone for confirming and it seems I'm wrong about the stock ones, but right about the aftermarket ones.

I'm still tripping out because the stock red bushings I have previously used feel way different than the orange ones. Same thing with those AVE white ones. Maybe those were rare one-offs for me.


As I had said before, between lots of different trucks, I have felt like the stock bushings did feel different, some a little stiffer and some a little less stiff, even verging on stupidly soft at first, but after a few sessions or more, they all seemed to firm up a bit even though some still come out a touch more this or a touch more that.

So as far as the info they give you, I agree with you in that not all stock bushings feel the same, even if they are all supposed to be the same 90 duro on paper, but they are all a different compound to the aftter market bushings and perform differently, even in what is said to be the 90 duro bushings, for comparison.


The stock bushings do seem to split, come apart or have other issues, whereas the after market bushings don't seem to have anywhere near as many issues as the stock ones, for whatever reason.  I have still seen all of them end up squashed or split or whatever from being tightened down too much, or specific things that will cause them to blow out more often, but I think overall now, the Indy bushings really do hold up a lot better so regardless of anything else, I am happy to use them, as well as happy to recommend them to anyone, from super soft right through to super hard and anything in between.


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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3875 on: August 29, 2023, 05:29:26 PM »
How do "lock-ins" help with locking in? Seems like if you're off balance the wheel shape won't matter. I can see them maybe helping your board from slipping off a rounded ledge but otherwise seems like kind of a marketing thing.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3876 on: August 29, 2023, 05:37:07 PM »
How do "lock-ins" help with locking in? Seems like if you're off balance the wheel shape won't matter. I can see them maybe helping your board from slipping off a rounded ledge but otherwise seems like kind of a marketing thing.


The comparison from rounded edge to squarer edge is the main thing here.

To skate a rounder wheel like a classic, you will get on and off a lot more easily, so sometimes slipping out more often on this shape wheel, but it can also make it easier to grind for longer and stay where you need it to if you are used to them.

The squarer shaped edge wheel is meant to stick a bit more or stay more on the edge, whatever it is, so shapes like Lock Ins, Tablets and even the Conical or Conical Full to a degree will hold the board on a lot more than the rounder Classic shaped wheels on most edges where the wheel is running along the edge, not so much crossed or at an angle.


Anyone can still skate either and still lock in if balanced, or if not balanced any wheel will not lock in too, so sure it is down to the ability of the individual, but there are some wheels that might help a bit more with some things or hinder a bit more with others.

Wheel size also comes in to it a fair bit too, so bigger lock in / straight side wall type wheels will lock in a lot more than smaller ones, but that is not to say that riding a 60 mm squared off wheel will stop you from slipping out any less if you are not well balanced over the grind.



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« Reply #3877 on: August 29, 2023, 06:33:23 PM »
How do "lock-ins" help with locking in? Seems like if you're off balance the wheel shape won't matter. I can see them maybe helping your board from slipping off a rounded ledge but otherwise seems like kind of a marketing thing.

The simple idea is that on a rail a flat side would have more of a contact patch against the side. Take the letters L and O where O is the rail. The L can make contact against the side and let you sit slightly over the rail or ledge. Now take ) and O- it pushes the edge further from the rail center. The flatter L shape allows you to sit more on top of the obstacle and lets more of the surface of the wheel touch the side of the obstacle. Plus it makes it harder to slip over.

Frankly from people I know that have had them it's mostly bullshit.

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« Reply #3878 on: August 29, 2023, 10:25:32 PM »
So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3879 on: August 30, 2023, 01:40:09 AM »
So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

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Is pretty obvious you should see a doctor
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forgive me if i somehow missed it, but could someone help me with just how flat the flat as fuck decks really are?
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« Reply #3880 on: August 30, 2023, 04:26:45 AM »
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So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
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Is pretty obvious you should see a doctor

Yeah I called them but they were rather relaxed and think I should be fine in a week or two.
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3881 on: August 30, 2023, 04:33:55 AM »
How do people wash headwear they skate in? Do people wash their hats? The washing machine likes to eat and/or shrinks my hats, but I’m a horrid sweaty monster and I see no other way.
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« Reply #3882 on: August 30, 2023, 04:41:56 AM »
How do people wash headwear they skate in? Do people wash their hats? The washing machine likes to eat and/or shrinks my hats, but I’m a horrid sweaty monster and I see no other way.

As a sweaty monster  also, I  would also like to know.

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« Reply #3883 on: August 30, 2023, 04:48:24 AM »
Cold wash in the sink.

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« Reply #3884 on: August 30, 2023, 04:50:10 AM »
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So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
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Yeah I called them but they were rather relaxed and think I should be fine in a week or two.
probably not skeletal but I’d still get an x-ray (and MRI if necessary). Is the pain gradually decreasing, or is it still bad as when you first hurt it? I recently fell really hard on my arse and while I had no bruising, my muscles tightened up to the point where they were pinching on the nerve which was excruciating, only physio/ stretching has helped it improve.
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3885 on: August 30, 2023, 04:51:43 AM »
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How do people wash headwear they skate in? Do people wash their hats? The washing machine likes to eat and/or shrinks my hats, but I’m a horrid sweaty monster and I see no other way.
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As a sweaty monster  also, I  would also like to know.

I wash all my caps with my hands, like it's 1920 or something. Some warm water, a bit of hand soap and a brush to clean them from those sweaty stains.

The real question is, how do black clothes stay black?
They always get that funky rust looking color from the sun.
I use these towel things that you put in the washing mashine to make black clothes black again, but that doesn't last very long in my experience.
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3886 on: August 30, 2023, 05:51:07 AM »
hats in the dishwasher can work. gotta clean the dishwasher.
1920s method the best tho

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« Reply #3887 on: August 30, 2023, 05:51:44 AM »
I used wash my hats on top shelf of the dishwasher, and that worked ok but I got soap stains a few times. Since then, I’ve been using one of those hat-shaped plastic things you could buy at Bed Bath and Beyond before they closed, and I wash them on gentle with the rest of my gentle clothes. Obviously you will need to air dry.


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« Reply #3888 on: August 30, 2023, 06:14:35 AM »
I just take them with me into the shower after skating, works really well for me. You just leave them drying in the shower and you'll have a fresh hat ready for the next session.
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« Reply #3889 on: August 30, 2023, 06:15:45 AM »
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So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
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Is pretty obvious you should see a doctor
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Yeah I called them but they were rather relaxed and think I should be fine in a week or two.
I would get a second opinion if possible.
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forgive me if i somehow missed it, but could someone help me with just how flat the flat as fuck decks really are?
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3890 on: August 30, 2023, 06:38:09 AM »
I just take them with me into the shower after skating, works really well for me. You just leave them drying in the shower and you'll have a fresh hat ready for the next session.

This is my method as well. 
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« Reply #3891 on: August 30, 2023, 06:56:47 AM »
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So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?
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Yeah I called them but they were rather relaxed and think I should be fine in a week or two.

Had something similar a few years ago, fell on my hip on a rail while snowboarding. Didn't bother me while doing anything except when I pushed on it (either sleeping on it or pushing with fingers or whatever). Ended up going to the doctor to have it checked and it was just a hairline fracture. Nothing the doc could do about it, and it went away completely after about 2-3 weeks.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3892 on: August 30, 2023, 07:00:14 AM »
I just take them with me into the shower after skating, works really well for me. You just leave them drying in the shower and you'll have a fresh hat ready for the next session.

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« Reply #3893 on: August 30, 2023, 08:08:42 AM »
How do "lock-ins" help with locking in? Seems like if you're off balance the wheel shape won't matter. I can see them maybe helping your board from slipping off a rounded ledge but otherwise seems like kind of a marketing thing.
Skated couple sets of lock-ins, they do work great. Never had to think about slipping out of rails. Does wonders to your confidence when you know that as long as your trucks are up there, they will stay there.

For something like crooked grinds i hated them. That's why i switched back to classic shape.

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« Reply #3894 on: August 30, 2023, 10:08:28 AM »
So I fell on my hip 10 days ago doing a flatground fakie heel. Didn‘t think much of it but the hipbone got super swollen and now I have a large concussion. Hipbone is also still swollen / protruding. However, it only „hurts“ when I try to sleep on that side.

I can walk no problem and have skated a few times since but very carefully (mostly slappies) as I am afraid falling on it again.I have also walked/run a fair bit (approx. 10 km per day most days) which probably didn‘t help in the healing process, but didn‘t hurt.

I am a bit clueless if I should show it to a doctor or not, and if not, if I should really take a break from all activities or just keep on doing my thing (skate and walk/run) and it will pass anyway.

Any thoughts?

I would personally go in. I fractured my femoral head years back and honestly it didn't hurt all that bad. I crashed while riding my bike down a rainy descent and rode it back up the climb. A friend made me get a ride home, but when I got home I made a sandwich and hung out until my wife made me go in. I had a fracture halfway through the head that was slowly getting worse from weighting it.

I have fallen on it quite hard since then and had swelling, but no fracture. So, I guess I'd wanna be safe.

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« Reply #3895 on: August 30, 2023, 10:18:21 AM »
Cheers for the good advice, lads! Gnars for y’all!
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3896 on: August 30, 2023, 11:12:10 AM »
For washing hats, I do it in my bathroom sink. I soak them in cold water with a tiny bit of detergent for 10-15 minutes, then handwash and hang dry. Super easy and doesn't shrink or wreak the shape of your hats.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3897 on: August 30, 2023, 11:42:31 AM »
I used wash my hats on top shelf of the dishwasher, and that worked ok but I got soap stains a few times. Since then, I’ve been using one of those hat-shaped plastic things you could buy at Bed Bath and Beyond before they closed, and I wash them on gentle with the rest of my gentle clothes. Obviously you will need to air dry.


One of these.
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Woah. Now I have seen it all. A cage for your caps that you put into the dishwasher. Human engineering at it's finest.

And @Easy Slider you should go see a doctor. Hips are important for dancing and skateboard playing.
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3898 on: August 30, 2023, 11:49:10 AM »
How puffy is the tyshawn low? I don’t really skate or like super puffy/bulky shoes. Biggest I’ve gone recently is like a half cab.

Trying take Advantage of a sale this weekend and wanna try some adidas. So I’m going between tyshawn and Nora. I assume tyshawn is the better show but Nora looks nicer to me being a slimmer profile.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #3899 on: August 30, 2023, 12:06:08 PM »
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I just take them with me into the shower after skating, works really well for me. You just leave them drying in the shower and you'll have a fresh hat ready for the next session.
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This is my method as well. 


yup, sometimes i'll lightly shampoo them, not the bill. i let them dry outside though my showers to damp.