questions that don't deserve their own thread

[PeteP]

How does dsm compare to bbs? Im tempted to try an 8.38 or 8.5 Jacuzzi, my previous 3 boards were all 8.38 from Real, which are known to be closer to 8.5. Thanks in advance

[Mbrimson88]

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What board brands have you guys noticed have a good amount of flat after the truck bolts on a lift of their shapes? I can pretty much only buy boards online and hate when there's a gap between the back of the truck baseplate and the board right before the tail and nose kick up. I feel like the only boards iver ever broken are when there's a gap and they break at the tail right next to the truck bolts. I'm on a quasi 8.625 currently and the shape is nice but I'm not digging the PS stix wood, it feels flimsy and there's the gap I hate.

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Girl/Chocolate decks have a stupid big amount flat where you want it. (I hate it)

I noticed Sour boards do to.  HLC wood, so often shorter 14.2 wheelbases with a lot of flat past bolts before the kicks.

Shorter wheelbases on regular molds often have a lot more flat after bolts anyway, from some woodshops / brands, but I think BBS and PS Stix are often very specific with molds in relation to wheelbases, as Prof Schmitt saying they keep them very much between one to two fingers of flat, which then often means that longer baseplates like Venture will seem like they stick out or lift up more.

Guessing you mean the boards break over the inside bolt holes?  This is the most common breakage point on any board, regardless of concave, trucks, etc, but I haven't seen too many break on the outside of the kicks through the bolts, although it does happen.

[Woodshop]

How does dsm compare to bbs? Im tempted to try an 8.38 or 8.5 Jacuzzi, my previous 3 boards were all 8.38 from Real, which are known to be closer to 8.5. Thanks in advance

Have you skated any other Dwindle or DSM boards before?  The list is pretty long, Enjoi, Blind, Darkstar and many others all on that wood, which is usually a lot stiffer than anything else, specific sizes and shapes to different molds, some steeper and some more mellow, but if you are asking about just the size, they are usually fairly spot on with widths, their 8.375 board being a little less than the DLX or similar 8.38, which as you said is closer to 8.5 in width, although some of the other BBS / Generator 8.375 boards are the same as the Dwindle / DSM 8.375 boards, which are a mm or so smaller than the DLX 8.38 boards.

Jacuzzi has the exact same shapes and wood as Enjoi, from what Louie had said / from people on other posts too, so if you had seen any of those, you already know what you would be getting, or at least could go in somewhere to check as there might still be a lot more Enjoi or similar boards around, more so than Jacuzzi boards anyway.


Woodshop thread here if you need a bit more of a range of product from those brands too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.0

[DERBY]

my setup got pretty wet today. ik my boards fucked. but i was concerned bout my trucks n bearings.

running some af1 hollows and quantum isotopes. managed to pat dry the trucks. thanks

[Kaydubbb]

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What board brands have you guys noticed have a good amount of flat after the truck bolts on a lift of their shapes? I can pretty much only buy boards online and hate when there's a gap between the back of the truck baseplate and the board right before the tail and nose kick up. I feel like the only boards iver ever broken are when there's a gap and they break at the tail right next to the truck bolts. I'm on a quasi 8.625 currently and the shape is nice but I'm not digging the PS stix wood, it feels flimsy and there's the gap I hate.

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Girl/Chocolate decks have a stupid big amount flat where you want it. (I hate it)

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I noticed Sour boards do to.  HLC wood, so often shorter 14.2 wheelbases with a lot of flat past bolts before the kicks.

Shorter wheelbases on regular molds often have a lot more flat after bolts anyway, from some woodshops / brands, but I think BBS and PS Stix are often very specific with molds in relation to wheelbases, as Prof Schmitt saying they keep them very much between one to two fingers of flat, which then often means that longer baseplates like Venture will seem like they stick out or lift up more.

Guessing you mean the boards break over the inside bolt holes?  This is the most common breakage point on any board, regardless of concave, trucks, etc, but I haven't seen too many break on the outside of the kicks through the bolts, although it does happen.

They break right next to the outside bolts closest to the tail. I don't break boards often but it does happen more when the gap is there. I have to imagine it's as the the tail flexes down it closes the gap and then hits the truck baseplate, maybe causing more issues for me than if the entirety of the baseplate was constantly in full contact with the board.

I do try and look at the wheelbase to length ratio when buying a board, I'd assume a 14.5" wb on a 32.5" board would have a longer nose and tail than 14.5" wb on a 32" board but it's so hit and miss as a gauge as two boards can have 6.75" tails but be different in how far along the board they start to kick up after the bolts. There's also the chance that the extra length in the ratio just gets taken up in a longer nose.

I'm not really too concerned with how much fingers of flat there is, just that there is no gap. My mind also might be playing tricks on me.

[DarkPools]

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What board brands have you guys noticed have a good amount of flat after the truck bolts on a lift of their shapes? I can pretty much only buy boards online and hate when there's a gap between the back of the truck baseplate and the board right before the tail and nose kick up. I feel like the only boards iver ever broken are when there's a gap and they break at the tail right next to the truck bolts. I'm on a quasi 8.625 currently and the shape is nice but I'm not digging the PS stix wood, it feels flimsy and there's the gap I hate.

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Girl/Chocolate decks have a stupid big amount flat where you want it. (I hate it)

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I noticed Sour boards do to.  HLC wood, so often shorter 14.2 wheelbases with a lot of flat past bolts before the kicks.

Shorter wheelbases on regular molds often have a lot more flat after bolts anyway, from some woodshops / brands, but I think BBS and PS Stix are often very specific with molds in relation to wheelbases, as Prof Schmitt saying they keep them very much between one to two fingers of flat, which then often means that longer baseplates like Venture will seem like they stick out or lift up more.

Guessing you mean the boards break over the inside bolt holes?  This is the most common breakage point on any board, regardless of concave, trucks, etc, but I haven't seen too many break on the outside of the kicks through the bolts, although it does happen.

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They break right next to the outside bolts closest to the tail. I don't break boards often but it does happen more when the gap is there. I have to imagine it's as the the tail flexes down it closes the gap and then hits the truck baseplate, maybe causing more issues for me than if the entirety of the baseplate was constantly in full contact with the board.

I do try and look at the wheelbase to length ratio when buying a board, I'd assume a 14.5" wb on a 32.5" board would have a longer nose and tail than 14.5" wb on a 32" board but it's so hit and miss as a gauge as two boards can have 6.75" tails but be different in how far along the board they start to kick up after the bolts. There's also the chance that the extra length in the ratio just gets taken up in a longer nose.

I'm not really too concerned with how much fingers of flat there is, just that there is no gap. My mind also might be playing tricks on me.

Wait, you want NO gap between bolts and when tails kick up? That means you DON'T want boards with > fingers of flat before the kicks. Wanted to be sure since I may have misunderstood from the early posts.

If you don't want that gap, most of BBS decks do not have an excessive amount of flat. Unlike Crailtap and some PS Stix shapes.
- DLX, Black Label, Polar, etc.

Avoid the China woodshop brands (Girl/Chocolate, non-pro Toy Machine, etc.) if you don't like that gap between bolts and the kicks

[scab]

my setup got pretty wet today. ik my boards fucked. but i was concerned bout my trucks n bearings.

running some af1 hollows and quantum isotopes. managed to pat dry the trucks. thanks

Make sure you get all the water out of the bearings by removing the shields and spinning them. Then apply some lubricant (less is usually more) and you should be good to go.

The trucks should not be affected whatsoever.

[Kaydubbb]

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What board brands have you guys noticed have a good amount of flat after the truck bolts on a lift of their shapes? I can pretty much only buy boards online and hate when there's a gap between the back of the truck baseplate and the board right before the tail and nose kick up. I feel like the only boards iver ever broken are when there's a gap and they break at the tail right next to the truck bolts. I'm on a quasi 8.625 currently and the shape is nice but I'm not digging the PS stix wood, it feels flimsy and there's the gap I hate.

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Girl/Chocolate decks have a stupid big amount flat where you want it. (I hate it)

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I noticed Sour boards do to.  HLC wood, so often shorter 14.2 wheelbases with a lot of flat past bolts before the kicks.

Shorter wheelbases on regular molds often have a lot more flat after bolts anyway, from some woodshops / brands, but I think BBS and PS Stix are often very specific with molds in relation to wheelbases, as Prof Schmitt saying they keep them very much between one to two fingers of flat, which then often means that longer baseplates like Venture will seem like they stick out or lift up more.

Guessing you mean the boards break over the inside bolt holes?  This is the most common breakage point on any board, regardless of concave, trucks, etc, but I haven't seen too many break on the outside of the kicks through the bolts, although it does happen.

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They break right next to the outside bolts closest to the tail. I don't break boards often but it does happen more when the gap is there. I have to imagine it's as the the tail flexes down it closes the gap and then hits the truck baseplate, maybe causing more issues for me than if the entirety of the baseplate was constantly in full contact with the board.

I do try and look at the wheelbase to length ratio when buying a board, I'd assume a 14.5" wb on a 32.5" board would have a longer nose and tail than 14.5" wb on a 32" board but it's so hit and miss as a gauge as two boards can have 6.75" tails but be different in how far along the board they start to kick up after the bolts. There's also the chance that the extra length in the ratio just gets taken up in a longer nose.

I'm not really too concerned with how much fingers of flat there is, just that there is no gap. My mind also might be playing tricks on me.

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Wait, you want NO gap between bolts and when tails kick up? That means you DON'T want boards with > fingers of flat before the kicks. Wanted to be sure since I may have misunderstood from the early posts.

If you don't want that gap, most of BBS decks do not have an excessive amount of flat. Unlike Crailtap and some PS Stix shapes.
- DLX, Black Label, Polar, etc.

Avoid the China woodshop brands (Girl/Chocolate, non-pro Toy Machine, etc.) if you don't like that gap between bolts and the kicks

I might be explaining wrong, I mean a physical gap between the baseplate of trucks and the bottom of the board. When there's not much flat or the tail and nose kick up quickly after the bolts there is sometimes a small gap at the back of the baseplate. Not referring to the fingers of flat as the gap.

[commander jameson]

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What board brands have you guys noticed have a good amount of flat after the truck bolts on a lift of their shapes? I can pretty much only buy boards online and hate when there's a gap between the back of the truck baseplate and the board right before the tail and nose kick up. I feel like the only boards iver ever broken are when there's a gap and they break at the tail right next to the truck bolts. I'm on a quasi 8.625 currently and the shape is nice but I'm not digging the PS stix wood, it feels flimsy and there's the gap I hate.

[close]

Girl/Chocolate decks have a stupid big amount flat where you want it. (I hate it)

[close]

I noticed Sour boards do to.  HLC wood, so often shorter 14.2 wheelbases with a lot of flat past bolts before the kicks.

Shorter wheelbases on regular molds often have a lot more flat after bolts anyway, from some woodshops / brands, but I think BBS and PS Stix are often very specific with molds in relation to wheelbases, as Prof Schmitt saying they keep them very much between one to two fingers of flat, which then often means that longer baseplates like Venture will seem like they stick out or lift up more.

Guessing you mean the boards break over the inside bolt holes?  This is the most common breakage point on any board, regardless of concave, trucks, etc, but I haven't seen too many break on the outside of the kicks through the bolts, although it does happen.

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They break right next to the outside bolts closest to the tail. I don't break boards often but it does happen more when the gap is there. I have to imagine it's as the the tail flexes down it closes the gap and then hits the truck baseplate, maybe causing more issues for me than if the entirety of the baseplate was constantly in full contact with the board.

I do try and look at the wheelbase to length ratio when buying a board, I'd assume a 14.5" wb on a 32.5" board would have a longer nose and tail than 14.5" wb on a 32" board but it's so hit and miss as a gauge as two boards can have 6.75" tails but be different in how far along the board they start to kick up after the bolts. There's also the chance that the extra length in the ratio just gets taken up in a longer nose.

I'm not really too concerned with how much fingers of flat there is, just that there is no gap. My mind also might be playing tricks on me.

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Wait, you want NO gap between bolts and when tails kick up? That means you DON'T want boards with > fingers of flat before the kicks. Wanted to be sure since I may have misunderstood from the early posts.

If you don't want that gap, most of BBS decks do not have an excessive amount of flat. Unlike Crailtap and some PS Stix shapes.
- DLX, Black Label, Polar, etc.

Avoid the China woodshop brands (Girl/Chocolate, non-pro Toy Machine, etc.) if you don't like that gap between bolts and the kicks

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I might be explaining wrong, I mean a physical gap between the baseplate of trucks and the bottom of the board. When there's not much flat or the tail and nose kick up quickly after the bolts there is sometimes a small gap at the back of the baseplate. Not referring to the fingers of flat as the gap.

Santa Cruz use to have specific concave back in the day that did just that what you are trying to explain.


I remember that SC use to sell specific risers for those decks to avoid problem when baseplate is not touching deck.
This sometimes happens with modern concaves bud I don't remember when was last time I saw it, maybe back in 90s.

[rikki]

Tom Knox has aged well!

[moonordie]

Are Fastbreaks TTS?

[lildonut92]

I tried searching but couldn’t find much. What’s the consensus on sizing for the Adidas Puig (Cupsole)? I usually have to go half size up on most adidas.

[moonordie]

I tried searching but couldn’t find much. What’s the consensus on sizing for the Adidas Puig (Cupsole)? I usually have to go half size up on most adidas.

TTS for me

[Firebert]

Are Fastbreaks TTS?

For me, skate version, yes.

[Banned from the room]

I just bought rails for the first time since ever. What how should I put them on?

Anyone? Bueller?

I can't test fit these stupid slippery things.

[Ray C. Usery]

I just bought rails for the first time since ever. What how should I put them on?

Anyone? Bueller?

I can't test fit these stupid slippery things.

I just use a screw gun but I'm really good with one. Finish with a screwdriver to get them tighter

I set them at 2 fingers from the edge, but you can set them at one finger

Sometimes I set the top and bottom screw first and then pull on the rail to round it out to the edge for an old school look, or to go with the shape of the board. Best practise is to start from the middle and go out, but I never do

You can test them with double sided tape

[Easy Slider]

Ask the shop dude 

[Banned from the room]

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I just bought rails for the first time since ever. What how should I put them on?

Anyone? Bueller?

I can't test fit these stupid slippery things.

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I just use a screw gun but I'm really good with one. Finish with a screwdriver to get them tighter

I set them at 2 fingers from the edge, but you can set them at one finger

Sometimes I set the top and bottom screw first and then pull on the rail to round it out to the edge for an old school look, or to go with the shape of the board. Best practise is to start from the middle and go out, but I never do

You can test them with double sided tape

Thanks doggie. I kinda pulled it. I just mashed the double sided curb up the street. I haven't figured it yet. Also I stripped one. Gonna wood glue later maybe.



At the curb
My wheels ain't quite clearing. They soft too and the curb is sharp af. Then my trucks froze. I'm throwing a thunder top in tomorrow. It's green too. That's sick.

I'm really hoping it'll give me more pop out a flat bar. I haven't been able to board pop to truck up since returning to tricks.

Also this graphic is layed out with two straight edges on each side. It's near perfectly centered too.

I just should have put the inside of the rail against it. I lined the holes up with it instead.

Next time. Lined up perfectly with the two amps

[tom]

Why do trucks feel tighter when you set up a new board? Doesn’t matter which woodshop it is. I could set up the same shape and same size board from the same company two boards in a row, but my trucks always feel rock hard at the start of the boards life and extra loose(the way I like) right before it’s dead. Is it the stiffness of the new board?

[Banned from the room]

Why do trucks feel tighter when you set up a new board? Doesn’t matter which woodshop it is. I could set up the same shape and same size board from the same company two boards in a row, but my trucks always feel rock hard at the start of the boards life and extra loose(the way I like) right before it’s dead. Is it the stiffness of the new board?

Could be.I prefer loose trucks. And I definitely prefer my boards kinda older. Like right before razor tail ruins it is my favorite time in its life.

The 6.1s I just got are kinda on the looser side for new Ventures. It might be because I'm so magic carpet rn tho.
I might have better leverage because my axles are so in

They should make a 6.9 with a 9" axle maybe

[DarkPools]

I gotta shout out whoever (however many of you out there!) recommended using some soap on your pivot cups to quiet the squeaking. Proverbial GNARS to all of you!!!

Breaking in new Indys (cruiser) with stock pivot cups seemed like a forever noisy battle until I remembered some pals suggested using soap or oil or something similar to grease up the cup. Holy shit did that quiet it almost instantly!!  I had some new clicking for about 20 minutes after the reinstall, but riding the board around solved that. Now, my cruiser glides with ease and is almost silent. Perfect!

[emotional_degloving]

Might be better suited to the woodshop thread but I got other questions too

Anyone had experience with these blanks off of Ebay? Anyone know the shop they're from or is it mystery meat?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203283828327?hash=item2f54a90e67:g:4zcAAOSwgjVgL8~~&_trksid=p5731.m3795

Secondly, with rumours DC will be turned into a pile of shit by ABG and some of SoleTech looking like the ship is sinking, anyone know good shoe brands for people with large, wide feet? Nike and Adidas have historically been shitty for me in this regard, but this was ages ago and maybe they've changed. I've never tried Lakai or NB#. Cons feel like torture.

I'm 11/11.5 UK size. I like shit like the Accel and techier cupsoles.

Thirdly, anyone know a good skate belt?

[munchbox]

where is the news about DC?
second time seeing this within the hour

[emotional_degloving]

where is the news about DC?
second time seeing this within the hour

It's mainly the thread in Wooden Toy Banter, I think it's a lot of doom-speculation imo but a lot of people have left, like the global brand manager, Dway and Colin, Wes K. I think I'm missing someone else as well.

Still, Kalis, Jahmir and Shannahan seem to be doing alright, Kalis' even getting a new shoe next year from the looks of his stories.

[rocklobster]

Anyone feel like the recent pressings of BBS decks have been sub par? Snapped my last Habitat twin on a frontside flip, this was from their latest drop of decks. Granted I landed heavy on the tail but it was chipping prematurely. The previous batch of Habitat decks from China never gave out on me like this.

[Banned from the room]

I wonder.

You guys think Kelly Hart ever bombed the hills in Laguna?
I was there some of those were pretty sick. Not like death but there's deers that stand in the middle of the road in groups at night and they down to fight a skater.

Idk. I'm just dreaming of the past. I should have escaped the family and stayed in LA longer.  They just tricked me into coming home. Then turned me in on Thanksgiving.

I had my first premonition in form of a dream the night before. Then it actually happened. I was fuckin crashing on like 10 rolls when they took me away in my underwear too.

Lol

[botefdunn]

I wonder.

You guys think Kelly Hart
ever bombed the hills in Laguna?
I was there
some of those were pretty sick. Not like
death but
there's deers that stand in the middle of the road
in groups at night
and they down to fight a skater.

Idk.
I'm just dreaming of the past.
I should have escaped the family
and stayed in LA longer.  They just
tricked me
into coming home. Then
turned me in on Thanksgiving.

I had my first premonition
in form of a dream the night before.
Then it actually happened. I was fuckin crashing
on like 10 rolls  when
they took me away
in my underwear too.

Lol

[moonordie]

Might be better suited to the woodshop thread but I got other questions too

Anyone had experience with these blanks off of Ebay? Anyone know the shop they're from or is it mystery meat?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203283828327?hash=item2f54a90e67:g:4zcAAOSwgjVgL8~~&_trksid=p5731.m3795

Secondly, with rumours DC will be turned into a pile of shit by ABG and some of SoleTech looking like the ship is sinking, anyone know good shoe brands for people with large, wide feet? Nike and Adidas have historically been shitty for me in this regard, but this was ages ago and maybe they've changed. I've never tried Lakai or NB#. Cons feel like torture.

I'm 11/11.5 UK size. I like shit like the Accel and techier cupsoles.

Thirdly, anyone know a good skate belt?

Go for NB#.

[disgruntledMTAEmployee]

wtf is going on at element with them selling so many decks on the cheap for months? How do the section decks from those recent sales skate?

[hiljentaa]

wtf is going on at element with them selling so many decks on the cheap for months? How do the section decks from those recent sales skate?

Element is a MASSIVE company, compared to other board brands. I'm sure it just makes more sense for them to dump all their old overstock inventory for cheap than continue holding it.