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[Síota]

Why do I need ID to get ID?

If I had ID, I wouldn’t need ID.

Big Brother.

[BOILED ANGEL]

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Coming from someone whose skated 99% in the tropics and 1% in the cold on holiday, what do you wear while skating in the cold? My go to in the humid tropics is a t-shirt and regular chinos, do you wear a sweatshirt, hoodie, puffer vest or jacket? I love the heat and the cold has never been my thing, so do you wear to maximize warmth without getting too immobile from clothes?

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Coming from the PNW where we deal with this twice a year (spring, after the snow melts but is still really cold, and fall, in between the rain storms before the snow sticks) -

Long johns go a long way with keeping me warmed up, could swap for fleece/flannel lined pants. Generally go for a slimmer fit to help keep heat in, but use your discretion.
Long socks, maybe even an extra pair in case they get super sweaty and cold, shoes that aren't overly "breathe-able" (NB# 508's are cold as fuck on my feet rn), making sure I have pockets to shove my hands into, in between lines.

For tops, usually I'll start with a long sleeve tee for a base, for warmth I'll wear a medium jacket/hoodie/sweater, a big overcoat as needed to help with warm-up, and a knit hat is also standard. The coat gets taken off once I get acclimated.

I've worn gloves before but they end up kind of distracting me, so personally, I generally don't.

And then it's a matter of not slamming and staying skating so you don't cool down and the sweat tries to freeze on you.

Not sure how cold you're talking but for about 30F - 40F, that's my go-to. Any warmer and I generally skip the long johns and overcoat. Much colder, I'm probably not tryna skate haha

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It's the UK so 3-8C in Feb, I've never had to skate in weather that requires multiple layers especially bottoms. Coldest I've done is high singles in Socal and I got away with a jumper initially before just a long-sleeve tee only.

Good shout on the socks and hat, never considered those. Looks like I'll need to go shopping while I'm there.

@WashingtonNECKTIE @back smith @Pastasash

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3-8 degrees celcius is not that cold, you’ll be alright with a sweatshirt and some decently thick pants. of course you should come to the spot in a jacket and maybe even start skating with it on, but i’m sure you’ll eventually take it off. i don’t think you’ll have to layer up too much, once you get warmed up it will be too warm and you’ll be taking all that off. a dry t-shirt and socks to change into after skating is definitely a good idea, but it’s mostly about the warm up in my opinion. jog a little around the spot before you start skating and you’ll be just fine.

source: i’ve skated in negative temperatures often

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You don't understand, I've lived in the tropics my entire life where the lowest we've ever gotten is 23C, anything under 15C to me is rough. But heard you loud and clear, layers you can take off and get a good warm up in, slamming in the cold sucks the most.

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I was going to ask for temperatures but you just answered. I was going to suggest first layer long sleeve, a t on top on that and then warm hoodie with gloves and long underwear but clearly that's not for the same idea that we have of cold.
15⁰C is like summer for me so I guess the best thing I can recommend you is just a warm hoodie like the Helas one.

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Does anyone ever wear compression tights under their pants while skating?

I'd probably overheat doing that in the tropics but I thought an added layer would help with maintaining warmth and speeding up the warm-up process. I know dancers who wear sweat pants or joggers over their dance outfits to warm them up before the actual class.

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theres thermal joggers which are kinda neat, anything tighter than that makes you feel a bit restricted but a good combination of thermal underwear/socks + maybe shirt can get the job done

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https://www.uniqlo.com/sg/en/special-feature/about-heattech/men

I just remembered that Japanese fast fashion brand does a thermal top called Heat Tech, which I happen to have a few of. Could be too warm as a base layer, I can imagine myself broiling in my juices as the session gets on

oh yeah, uniqlo is awesome for that kinda stuff. i feel like longsleeve would definitely be overkill but a thermal t-shirt plus a normal lightweight jacket could be just right. gives you a bit more flexibility, especially if youre carrying a regular replacement shirt for when youre done or overheating

[BeachChicken]

I don't consider Uniqlo fast fashion like Zara or H&M. They do make some stuff that trends but most of their line is the same old staples and the materials, fit, and general construction is way better for the money than even some more expensive mall brands. Definitely shits on J Crew and Madewell and shit.

[Musicaldeath107]

Any recs for gloves that won’t get instantly destroyed by griptape?

It’s getting cold where I’m at.

Suede gardening gloves I would have to assume would work.

I just use a shitty old pair of knit ones that I don't mind destroying

[Basingstoke]

Any recs for gloves that won’t get instantly destroyed by griptape?

It’s getting cold where I’m at.

Cheap/ last seasons Ski/Snowboard spring gloves/liners, might find in Marshalls/Winners/TJX group type shops.

Can also vouch for Uniqlo heattech, used wear when I was a snowboard instructor.

[Pastasash]

Why do I need ID to get ID?

If I had ID, I wouldn’t need ID.

How you got high expectations but got low patience?

[scab]

how's the razoredge heroin decks like?

Cutting the grip is easier. Other than that I honestly don't think I've felt any difference at all compared to regular decks. I think it's supposed to help catch a better flick but it doesn't extend to the nose and tail, which is where people usually flick off of!? All in all I think it's a harmless gimmick.

Btw I'm curious about Lurpiv even tho I always said that I wouldn't touch them (this is Slap so you know how it works).
Thing is that I can get them for a nice price. Any insights?

No insights, just an admission that I recently pulled the trigger on Lurpivs after telling myself I wouldn't try them for the past 6 months or so. Stupid black friday deals.

[Lou Strux]

Btw I'm curious about Lurpiv even tho I always said that I wouldn't touch them (this is Slap so you know how it works).
Thing is that I can get them for a nice price. Any insights?

Still loving mine.
If you can get 'em on sale, then they're worth it for the experience alone.
They don't offer anything that other trucks don't, but they find a balance between Thunder/Venture feeling pop & Ace turning w/ an Indy like stability on center, all while grinding pretty well too.

Caveat: I personally love all the "turny" trucks like Ace, Stage IVs, etc, so your experience may vary based on your prefs.

[back smith]

Inflatable miniramps.. what the fuck?

[formula420]

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Btw I'm curious about Lurpiv even tho I always said that I wouldn't touch them (this is Slap so you know how it works).
Thing is that I can get them for a nice price. Any insights?

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Still loving mine.
If you can get 'em on sale, then they're worth it for the experience alone.
They don't offer anything that other trucks don't, but they find a balance between Thunder/Venture feeling pop & Ace turning w/ an Indy like stability on center, all while grinding pretty well too.

Caveat: I personally love all the "turny" trucks like Ace, Stage IVs, etc, so your experience may vary based on your prefs.

Im interested in the antiwheelbite geometry but it makes me think crooked grinds would feel really weird. Any thoughts on lurpiv krooks? Does it fully pinch or is there always a gap between the wheel and the deck?

[moonordie]

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Btw I'm curious about Lurpiv even tho I always said that I wouldn't touch them (this is Slap so you know how it works).
Thing is that I can get them for a nice price. Any insights?

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Still loving mine.
If you can get 'em on sale, then they're worth it for the experience alone.
They don't offer anything that other trucks don't, but they find a balance between Thunder/Venture feeling pop & Ace turning w/ an Indy like stability on center, all while grinding pretty well too.

Caveat: I personally love all the "turny" trucks like Ace, Stage IVs, etc, so your experience may vary based on your prefs.

Thank you all for the replies. This weekend should be an extra discount so I'm waiting for that to pull the trigger on some hollows.

[j....soy.....]

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Btw I'm curious about Lurpiv even tho I always said that I wouldn't touch them (this is Slap so you know how it works).
Thing is that I can get them for a nice price. Any insights?

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Still loving mine.
If you can get 'em on sale, then they're worth it for the experience alone.
They don't offer anything that other trucks don't, but they find a balance between Thunder/Venture feeling pop & Ace turning w/ an Indy like stability on center, all while grinding pretty well too.

Caveat: I personally love all the "turny" trucks like Ace, Stage IVs, etc, so your experience may vary based on your prefs.

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Im interested in the antiwheelbite geometry but it makes me think crooked grinds would feel really weird. Any thoughts on lurpiv krooks? Does it fully pinch or is there always a gap between the wheel and the deck?

I haven’t spent any time on them but my impression is they just don’t swivel like Aces and they are taller than a thunder and Ace as well.  Pinch like an Indy? Aka not the best, but no the worst….

[slappyjoes]

I'm looking at getting some lurpivs hollows. Would I be able to use 150s on an 8.25 or is it to big

[moonordie]

I'm looking at getting some lurpivs hollows. Would I be able to use 150s on an 8.25 or is it to bug

I'll go for that. Love a 8.5 truck in a 8.25 board.

[PatrickSkateman]

Do maggots get drunk when they bury alcoholics?

[SupremePizza]

I love the Violet 8.5 shape however they rarely go on sale and I'm not trying to pay $80 every time for a deck. FA dimensions are similar but steeper than I prefer. I like GX1000 but they tend to run longer. Are there any other shapes out there similar to the Violet 8.5?

[Septa Bus]

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I'm looking at getting some lurpivs hollows. Would I be able to use 150s on an 8.25 or is it to bug

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I'll go for that. Love a 8.5 truck in a 8.25 board.

we call that monster truckin'

[rocklobster]

Looking to get some heavier clothes for skating like a crewneck or hoodie but sizes are all over the place. Check my wardrobe and I have hoodies / crewnecks / jackets in S to L.

I'm 5'6", M on t-shirts, 30 on pants. I'm thinking S for outerwear?

[Jort250]

Do Ventures need aftermarket bushings? If so, which ones are good?

[back smith]

Do Ventures need aftermarket bushings? If so, which ones are good?

The ones they come with are good.

[Mbrimson88]

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Do Ventures need aftermarket bushings? If so, which ones are good?

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The ones they come with are good.

Most trucks including all Ventures come with 90 duro stock bushings, or roughly soft to medium bushings, but almost too many people don't wear in / break in bushings correctly so they will often feel way too soft and mushy at first or people tighten them right down and blow them out fairly quickly.

If you are a lighter weight body, or you like trucks on the more loose side, then they will work great for you, but if you are usually on tighter trucks and don't want to wait a few sessions to wear in bushings, then maybe putting in harder bushings can work better.  Note even with new harder bushings, you will still need to break them in gently at first, then can skate as usual once they firm up and things feel more normal.


The question I would ask back is what are you currently on, what bushings in those trucks and where does the kingpin nut sit, eg flush with the top, down so you can see a thread or more, half off, etc?

Coming from most main brands, anything with nicely worn in bushings might feel more comfortable than any new trucks you might get, but just going easy on them in the first few sessions, means the bushings break in well and they will firm up and skate well.

Of course everyone is different, so although they might work well for some, they might not work well for others.


Hope that helps.

[rikki]

Do Ventures need aftermarket bushings? If so, which ones are good?

Short answer: no. The Ventures stock bushings are great.

[rikki]

Anyone experience this weird thing:

I've been riding Bones X99's (V5, 55mm) for a while now and really enjoy them, pretty much my favorite all-around wheel as of now. As you know, they're on the "softer" side of wheels even though they are labeled 99s. A lot softer than normal 99s such as Spitfire F4 etc.

Just recently switched to rock-hard OJ Elite 99s (Hardline 55mm) for a session, just for the fun of it. As mentioned, they are really effin' hard – harder feeling than F4 99s.

The result: my ollie went haywire. Couldn't get off the ground for a while. I mean, what? Baffled as f*ck.

Can wheel hardness affect one's pop? Or is it just the wheel shape (the OJ's are wider)? Or both? I mean, it's not like a few extra grams would mess up my pop so completely?

Any ideas welcome.

[back smith]

Anyone experience this weird thing:

I've been riding Bones X99's (V5, 55mm) for a while now and really enjoy them, pretty much my favorite all-around wheel as of now. As you know, they're on the "softer" side of wheels even though they are labeled 99s. A lot softer than normal 99s such as Spitfire F4 etc.

Just recently switched to rock-hard OJ Elite 99s (Hardline 55mm) for a session, just for the fun of it. As mentioned, they are really effin' hard – harder feeling than F4 99s.

The result: my ollie went haywire. Couldn't get off the ground for a while. I mean, what? Baffled as f*ck.

Can wheel hardness affect one's pop? Or is it just the wheel shape (the OJ's are wider)? Or both? I mean, it's not like a few extra grams would mess up my pop so completely?

Any ideas welcome.

I used to enjoy the bouncy pop of Spitifre 80HDs when I did a lot of chode boarding. Like preloading the suspension on a mountain bike for a bunny hop I guess, just on a small scale.

[rawbertson.]

Was just messing around with trucks at the skate shop
I line up the holes perfectly and notice there is quite a difference between all the brands of baseplate.

Ventures have an abnormally large baseplate and I didn’t realize that they actually push the wheelbase out MORE than thunders. I always reference this website, I noticed they have venture hi lights listed at this wheelbase, but I think the normal cast made plate trucks have this wheelbase too (perhaps this chart is a bit out dated)

https://freedomskateshop.at/en-int/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks?srsltid=AfmBOorz8imFY6zNqTeMTiVizf76aLTo52MOGzmu_JQTtTBVKRXUJNMO

Lurpiv and Thunder are identical as far as I can tell. I took a picture of this. But the key difference is Thunders have a short baseplate so I think this is why people complain that the wheels brush up against more than ventures even though they technically push the wheelbase out more. The long baseplate helps keep the wheels away from the ledge. So in essence Lurpiv has this too.

https://ibb.co/XDytpSR

Everything else seems like it makes sense though

[rocklobster]

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Do Ventures need aftermarket bushings? If so, which ones are good?

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The ones they come with are good.

Stock ones are great until they crack or crumble. If you're lucky you may find the Bait & Tackle ones from a few years ago but good luck with that. Ace Low or standard bushings are you next best bet, riding the Low Hard ones and they're great.

[rikki]

Was just messing around with trucks at the skate shop
I line up the holes perfectly and notice there is quite a difference between all the brands of baseplate.

Ventures have an abnormally large baseplate and I didn’t realize that they actually push the wheelbase out MORE than thunders. I always reference this website, I noticed they have venture hi lights listed at this wheelbase, but I think the normal cast made plate trucks have this wheelbase too (perhaps this chart is a bit out dated)

https://freedomskateshop.at/en-int/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks?srsltid=AfmBOorz8imFY6zNqTeMTiVizf76aLTo52MOGzmu_JQTtTBVKRXUJNMO

Lurpiv and Thunder are identical as far as I can tell. I took a picture of this. But the key difference is Thunders have a short baseplate so I think this is why people complain that the wheels brush up against more than ventures even though they technically push the wheelbase out more. The long baseplate helps keep the wheels away from the ledge. So in essence Lurpiv has this too.

https://ibb.co/XDytpSR

Everything else seems like it makes sense though

The chart says Indy Forged Titanium is under +3", which is not true. They push out the wheelbase around +3.125, and all forged Indys are the same. It's not like there's a difference between Forged hollow and Forged titanium.

This list should be more accurate (it's gathered from various Slap posts, excluding some less popular manufacturers):

Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”

This might not be scientifically 100 % accurate, but it's pretty close on average. Someone can add Lurpiv as I have no idea.

[Franksnose76]

What's the deal with the T148 on Thunder trucks hangers? Is this a new thing or something else?

[rocklobster]

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Was just messing around with trucks at the skate shop
I line up the holes perfectly and notice there is quite a difference between all the brands of baseplate.

Ventures have an abnormally large baseplate and I didn’t realize that they actually push the wheelbase out MORE than thunders. I always reference this website, I noticed they have venture hi lights listed at this wheelbase, but I think the normal cast made plate trucks have this wheelbase too (perhaps this chart is a bit out dated)

https://freedomskateshop.at/en-int/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks?srsltid=AfmBOorz8imFY6zNqTeMTiVizf76aLTo52MOGzmu_JQTtTBVKRXUJNMO

Lurpiv and Thunder are identical as far as I can tell. I took a picture of this. But the key difference is Thunders have a short baseplate so I think this is why people complain that the wheels brush up against more than ventures even though they technically push the wheelbase out more. The long baseplate helps keep the wheels away from the ledge. So in essence Lurpiv has this too.

https://ibb.co/XDytpSR

Everything else seems like it makes sense though

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The chart says Indy Forged Titanium is under +3", which is not true. They push out the wheelbase around +3.125, and all forged Indys are the same. It's not like there's a difference between Forged hollow and Forged titanium.

This list should be more accurate (it's gathered from various Slap posts, excluding some less popular manufacturers):

Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”

This might not be scientifically 100 % accurate, but it's pretty close on average. Someone can add Lurpiv as I have no idea.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0

Older but has the odd brands (Destructo, Film, Tensor) and non-standard ones like Venture 6.1 (+3.125").

Revisiting that threads brings me back to the COVID days when we had loads of time on our hands to measure every truck brand.

[Síota]

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Was just messing around with trucks at the skate shop
I line up the holes perfectly and notice there is quite a difference between all the brands of baseplate.

Ventures have an abnormally large baseplate and I didn’t realize that they actually push the wheelbase out MORE than thunders. I always reference this website, I noticed they have venture hi lights listed at this wheelbase, but I think the normal cast made plate trucks have this wheelbase too (perhaps this chart is a bit out dated)

https://freedomskateshop.at/en-int/blogs/skate-tech/wheelbase-und-trucks?srsltid=AfmBOorz8imFY6zNqTeMTiVizf76aLTo52MOGzmu_JQTtTBVKRXUJNMO

Lurpiv and Thunder are identical as far as I can tell. I took a picture of this. But the key difference is Thunders have a short baseplate so I think this is why people complain that the wheels brush up against more than ventures even though they technically push the wheelbase out more. The long baseplate helps keep the wheels away from the ledge. So in essence Lurpiv has this too.

https://ibb.co/XDytpSR

Everything else seems like it makes sense though

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The chart says Indy Forged Titanium is under +3", which is not true. They push out the wheelbase around +3.125, and all forged Indys are the same. It's not like there's a difference between Forged hollow and Forged titanium.

This list should be more accurate (it's gathered from various Slap posts, excluding some less popular manufacturers):

Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”

This might not be scientifically 100 % accurate, but it's pretty close on average. Someone can add Lurpiv as I have no idea.

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0

Older but has the odd brands (Destructo, Film, Tensor) and non-standard ones like Venture 6.1 (+3.125").

Revisiting that threads brings me back to the COVID days when we had loads of time on our hands to measure every truck brand.

Wouldn't call Film odd they are pretty popular here in France.