CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2025 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc

[Bob Loblaw]

What brands are using BBS premium wood?
I tried searching slap for info but haven’t found much.
Skated a Limosine and it has a noticeable difference in quality compared to already excellent BBS standards

[Mbrimson88]

What brands are using BBS premium wood?
I tried searching slap for info but haven’t found much.
Skated a Limosine and it has a noticeable difference in quality compared to already excellent BBS standards

To be perfectly honest I think it is just marketing talk, more than anything else.

For pretty much all the normal BBS boards, be it DLX brands - Antihero, Real, Krooked, There or Unity, through Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, Heroin, Polar, Limosine or any other normal brand as per the BBS list on the first page, it is all the same, maybe some feel different - more mellow for some brands or steeper molds used for others, eg dedicated presses for select brands like FA / Hockey or some for DLX brands, maybe some might last longer, some might feel stiffer, some more flexy, etc but I feel like that is just down to how they are skated more than anything else, even though there is always the possibility of the ply veneer having issues that are not picked up in the usual quality control process.

They are all boards I would consider "pro wood" compared to any other options, like the pricepoint wood boards that some of the brands use for their cheaper deck options - usually all plain or natural grain, or advertised as "pricepoint" and sold as cheaper RRP than pro wood.  There is also the stock, be it blanks, shop boards, etc that come out of BBS that are sold under Generator which is not quite the same as the pro wood, but it is definitely not pricepoint either.

Apart from that, some brands, some shops and even some distributors will add in their own words, things like "premium wood" or where they are made - Made in USA being a common one, but at the end of the day, they are all made in the one place in Mexico and then either shipped off to various places round the world, or sent to the USA for distribution under the select brand, or to the Generator location in CA for printing, or whatever else as needed.



As for the BBS blanks listed on that site above, the word "premium" is not needed but just to have "Blank deck" is a bit too plain isn't it?


https://skatesamples.com/products/blank-deck-premium-2-dye

[Woodshop]

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Edited - Thanks Diego!

Cleaver = PS Stix 2023


Nothing huge or groundbreaking, but I see Tactics now have Cleaver Skateboards, with top pics showing a mix of what looked like HLC (but is not) and PS Stix, unless it is a stock old image.



https://www.tactics.com/cleaver


From the mind of legendary Argentine skater Diego Bucchieri AKA “The Butcher”, we're hyped to welcome Cleaver Skateboards to the shop.

Currently run & operated out of Madrid Spain, Cleaver serves up high-quality skateboards with elegant graphics, and apparel to match, all under the ever-watchful eye of The Butcher himself.



Top sticker and even the shape is interesting, looking a lot more full / square.

[BALARGUE]

Hockey boards imo set the trend of having "Full" square noses. Everyone started doing them after that but no ones is as blunt as Hockey's still.

polar P2 is a bit more extreme (nose is longer too)


And this one from Snack is interesting, slightly more square than Hockey/FA
https://shop.snackskateboards.com/products/lil-prince-deck?_pos=1&_sid=d4f56856f&_ss=r&variant=39620281696334

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Hockey boards imo set the trend of having "Full" square noses. Everyone started doing them after that but no ones is as blunt as Hockey's still.

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polar P2 is a bit more extreme (nose is longer too)


And this one from Snack is interesting, slightly more square than Hockey/FA

They look like fun!


At what point do "popsicle boards" end and "shaped boards" start, or how do we differentiate between them?

Not that it matters at all, just musing really.


Sure we have "full" popsicle boards, but then there are "shovel nose" and similar shaped boards out as well.


I remember when shovel nose boards were popular for a minute, but that seems to have dropped off as quickly as it started.



https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-decks-c23/the-approach-shovel-nose-skateboard-deck-8-4-p39911

[Mbrimson88]

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The shovel nose could be used to clean out the spot before skating, saving bringing tools and a board.

I had one of these, not that I ever used it like that though.  Functional tail as per a normal board, with the squared off nose.

[rawbertson.]

Does anyone know if this Primitive sizing guide for their decks is actually accurate? 8.38 x 14.1875" wb



this looks like a great size for me, tail is tiny bit longer than i'd want but its fine

[Mbrimson88]

Does anyone know if this Primitive sizing guide for their decks is actually accurate? 8.38 x 14.1875" wb



this looks like a great size for me, tail is tiny bit longer than i'd want but its fine

Although I haven't seen any recently, most places do have the wheelbase at about that and I know that Primitive boards are shorter with shorter wheelbases from looking at them in the past.


Width : 8.38"
Length : 31.88"
Wheelbase : 14.19"


Width: 8.38"
Length: 31.925"
Wheelbase: 14.2"


* From a couple of places


Someone else might have more info though, or be able to tell you about that exact shape.

[Mbrimson88]

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To add this, which I found when looking, with a very good top view and side view:


https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/primitive-team-home-8-38-skateboard-deck-blue_p157720


https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-GB/product/Primitive-Trent+McClung+Demo+8+38+Skateboard+Deck-672888


The link has a much clearer pic, but this is the thumbnail anyway:






They actually have really good pics of all sized boards, graphic, top and side concave views:


https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-GB/products/?q=primitive%20deck



I would add Blue Tomato to the list of shops that have board pics and dimensions, almost all listed from what I could see when I checked quite a few brands there.


All decks:


https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-GB/products/categories/Skate+Shop-00000015--Skateboards-00000016--Skateboard+Decks-00000017/

[rocklobster]

Does anyone know if this Primitive sizing guide for their decks is actually accurate? 8.38 x 14.1875" wb



this looks like a great size for me, tail is tiny bit longer than i'd want but its fine

They are accurate, long decks with short WB, perfect for Ventures. Rounded nose that aren't square.

[Woodshop]

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I saw a really good new thread come up and don't want to steal the thunder from @TwisT who put up an awesome list but if anyone is looking for blank decks, this is a great thread to check out:


BLANK DECKS IN SEMI BULK OPTIONS - current for May 2023

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=126420

[WelcomeToHell]

Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

[Woodshop]

Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

They have their own woodshop, maybe one of the longest lasting in the industry and they do their own boards and some for other small brands / runs from when I looked them up a while back.

From the first page:


Madrid Skateboard Factory (est 1976)
USA
https://www.madridskateboards.com/
https://www.instagram.com/madridskateboards/

[Mbrimson88]

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Local mall shop just got a shitload of cliché decks in. Wth is going on?
https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-AT/products/brand/Cliche-590/categories/Skate+Shop-00000015--Skateboards-00000016--Skateboard+Decks-00000017/gender/men/?sort=-isnew%2C-newest_first

The brand Cliche has come and gone a fair bit after being incorporated into Dwindle and they have been bringing out a few here and there over the years.  They are still owned by Dwindle, and made in DSM woodshop, so it would make sense that they would bring out generic graphics of their umbrella of brands, no pro models and just "money makers" for the corporate owners now.

[WelcomeToHell]

Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

Thank you! I should have search the thread. I just looked at the first list of brands and didn’t see it.

[PatrickSkateman]

Anyone skate an HLC deck? If so, how was it?

[Woodshop]

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Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

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Thank you! I should have search the thread. I just looked at the first list of brands and didn’t see it.

Not a worry and always happy to help!





It is often a funny one in that situation as Madrid tend to make a lot more "other" boards, like the background pics in that Instagram post, so are well known for their completes or their cruiser or similar boards, more so than popsicles.

From stumbling across quite a few brands with similar setups, where they make their own boards, be it a big or small manufacturing operation, but most always do something a little differently so have niche markets that they cater to and will keep people happy with the sort of thing that you just can't easily get from mainstream woodshops.

[Mbrimson88]

Anyone skate an HLC deck? If so, how was it?

I think as per any woodshop, some people will have quite different views on the product, some good and some not so good.

As a manufacturer that is pumping out a significant amount of product, they definitely have a lot going on and supply a number of pro brands with wood.

The few HLC boards I have come across have been decent, no issues, skate well and last for those people riding them.

There is a variety of concaves and some more mellow, some steeper, some with more "fingers of flat" than average, others no different to some other brands, so it comes down to the individual board and what you like - hoping you can stand on it or at least see it in person more so than ordering online, but their site has a lot more info too.



HLC (est 2000)
Europe (Spain)
https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/
https://www.instagram.com/hlcdistribution/

[PatrickSkateman]

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Anyone skate an HLC deck? If so, how was it?

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I think as per any woodshop, some people will have quite different views on the product, some good and some not so good.

As a manufacturer that is pumping out a significant amount of product, they definitely have a lot going on and supply a number of pro brands with wood.

The few HLC boards I have come across have been decent, no issues, skate well and last for those people riding them.

There is a variety of concaves and some more mellow, some steeper, some with more "fingers of flat" than average, others no different to some other brands, so it comes down to the individual board and what you like - hoping you can stand on it or at least see it in person more so than ordering online, but their site has a lot more info too.



HLC (est 2000)
Europe (Spain)
https://hlcskateboardfactory.com/
https://www.instagram.com/hlcdistribution/

Gotcha, thanks. I’m buying a deck in Europe and figured most of the decks in shops over there would either be DSM or HLC.

[moonordie]

Anyone skate an HLC deck? If so, how was it?

I skated several Sours and never had a problem. They might be little heavier than your usual boars but nothing too dramatic. Shape wise they're just ok, nothing to go crazy about. Overall they're pretty solid boards.

[alraunen]

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I skated several Sours and never had a problem. They might be little heavier than your usual boars but nothing too dramatic. Shape wise they're just ok, nothing to go crazy about. Overall they're pretty solid boards.

Skating one I got for free now, compared to BBS/Generator the wood feels more clumsy and you have a more heavy feeling once you pop tricks, but feels good overall. It's easy to spot an HLC board because all of their WB is 14.2, it's weird specially on narrow and wider boards.

[WelcomeToHell]

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Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

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Thank you! I should have search the thread. I just looked at the first list of brands and didn’t see it.

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Not a worry and always happy to help!





It is often a funny one in that situation as Madrid tend to make a lot more "other" boards, like the background pics in that Instagram post, so are well known for their completes or their cruiser or similar boards, more so than popsicles.

From stumbling across quite a few brands with similar setups, where they make their own boards, be it a big or small manufacturing operation, but most always do something a little differently so have niche markets that they cater to and will keep people happy with the sort of thing that you just can't easily get from mainstream woodshops.

That’s makes sense! Don’t tell anyone but was asking because I was looking at one of Madrid’s freestyle boards! (Insert Munch’s The Scream here)

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Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

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Thank you! I should have search the thread. I just looked at the first list of brands and didn’t see it.

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Not a worry and always happy to help!





It is often a funny one in that situation as Madrid tend to make a lot more "other" boards, like the background pics in that Instagram post, so are well known for their completes or their cruiser or similar boards, more so than popsicles.

From stumbling across quite a few brands with similar setups, where they make their own boards, be it a big or small manufacturing operation, but most always do something a little differently so have niche markets that they cater to and will keep people happy with the sort of thing that you just can't easily get from mainstream woodshops.

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That’s makes sense! Don’t tell anyone but was asking because I was looking at one of Madrid’s freestyle boards! (Insert Munch’s The Scream here)

I feel like there has been a resurgence of interest in "any other" boards in recent years, including freestyle boards.  Given it was the board that helped so many flip / spin variations of tricks come about thanks to Mr Mullen, then just recently brands like Antihero (under Grimplestix) made a freestyle deck and complete option too, which I think is still around today, so you are not alone there.

Thinking over the history of the popsicle too, boards got so small and skinny for a minute they were almost freestyle boards, only with a more generalised mainstream acceptance, if that could be said of anything in skateboarding.

Madrid sure do have a lot of options for almost if not every single type of skateboard over the decades and still press those completely flat boards, through various drop through board options, to single and double kicks in every size, shape, etc.


Good luck with your adventures!!!

[WelcomeToHell]

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Anyone know what wood shop Madrid is using?

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Thank you! I should have search the thread. I just looked at the first list of brands and didn’t see it.

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Not a worry and always happy to help!





It is often a funny one in that situation as Madrid tend to make a lot more "other" boards, like the background pics in that Instagram post, so are well known for their completes or their cruiser or similar boards, more so than popsicles.

From stumbling across quite a few brands with similar setups, where they make their own boards, be it a big or small manufacturing operation, but most always do something a little differently so have niche markets that they cater to and will keep people happy with the sort of thing that you just can't easily get from mainstream woodshops.

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That’s makes sense! Don’t tell anyone but was asking because I was looking at one of Madrid’s freestyle boards! (Insert Munch’s The Scream here)

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I feel like there has been a resurgence of interest in "any other" boards in recent years, including freestyle boards.  Given it was the board that helped so many flip / spin variations of tricks come about thanks to Mr Mullen, then just recently brands like Antihero (under Grimplestix) made a freestyle deck and complete option too, which I think is still around today, so you are not alone there.

Thinking over the history of the popsicle too, boards got so small and skinny for a minute they were almost freestyle boards, only with a more generalised mainstream acceptance, if that could be said of anything in skateboarding.

Madrid sure do have a lot of options for almost if not every single type of skateboard over the decades and still press those completely flat boards, through various drop through board options, to single and double kicks in every size, shape, etc.


Good luck with your adventures!!!

Thank you!!

[TwisT]

https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE3ODU3NDc3ODExNTE3NDcx?story_media_id=2514951076456599846&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Madrid has their own shop

[Mbrimson88]

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Thought this might be ok to post here as well.

Skatesamples uses BBS? They have the pinprick on the front truck like clutch on the website photo for the decks, but maybe that was an old pic I’m interested in tying a bbs blank out

I had meant to reply to this earlier but got distracted.


https://skatesamples.com/

They list them as "Generator Skateboard Distribution samples", on the main page in the header logo pic.

Generator Distribution is the shop board (blank) option from BBS, so although they are not the exact same boards as DLX or any other top pro brand out of BBS, they are made in the same place and are very similar in quality and feel of concave, so from riding a number of the Generator shop boards from a local shop here in AU, they skate great and if you like BBS, then they will work for you.

The shapes are generic so again, not quite the same as DLX or other pro brands, but they all seem like they are good with proportions and they work, eg normal wheelbase, normal round kicks, not pointed, not full, etc.

The sizes I have had or seen include 8.25, 8.38 and 8.5 info as below (but could be different in the new stock):


Width : 8.125"
Length : 32"
Wheelbase : 14.25"

Width : 8.25"
Length : 32"
Wheelbase : 14.25"

Width : 8.375"
Length : 32"
Wheelbase : 14.375"

Width : 8.5"
Length : 32.3"
Wheelbase : 14.5"

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Madrid has their own shop

How's all the different shapes hanging up on the wall?!?

I know other woodshops would have a lot of options hidden away, but it is just cool to see all those up there on display, almost ready to pull down and make this or that depending on how you feel that day.


Probably a good thing I don't have access to something like that.

Kid in a candy store.

[Fast_Freddie]

Here are the shapes/sizes for all the BBS/Generator blanks from https://skatesamples.com/

[Gary Gloverberg]

Here are the shapes/sizes for all the BBS/Generator blanks from https://skatesamples.com/

Always meant to ask but felt like an idiot. BBS has one shape per size and theyre the same regardless of brand? Seems too simple

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Here are the shapes/sizes for all the BBS/Generator blanks from https://skatesamples.com/

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Always meant to ask but felt like an idiot. BBS has one shape per size and theyre the same regardless of brand? Seems too simple

That size chart is a good one - is that for order only customers or shops?


As to BBS, they make whatever sizes and shapes any big brand wants, as most brands have slight tweaks that they want something shorter, longer, more full, etc, but for their Generator boards, they are all just the one specific size.

That way the big brands all have their own unique product (to a degree) whereas shop boards or smaller brands that use Generator just use what they are given, so people have more incentive to buy from the big brands if they want something specific.