CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2023 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc

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From the "Super mellow decks" thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113648.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjNt5iGhNwI

[Mbrimson88]

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Funny how many people have sent this to me, but it is nice to see others doing it, as well as putting something down like a board box so the top of the deck doesn't get scuffed.

JB is on Primitive, so usually BBS wood, but most brands have handled driving over them or parking on them to flatten out the kicks in my experience.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CsrAOkZPhVV/

[rawbertson.]

its funny because I specifically buy these boards BECAUSE they have hella concave in the nose and tail
primitive should get Control to do a run of boards for him 

[Allen.]

Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently

[Mbrimson88]

its funny because I specifically buy these boards BECAUSE they have hella concave in the nose and tail
primitive should get Control to do a run of boards for him 

Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently

Ha yeah, any time I have been able to stand on one of those Mini Logo boards (or some Control boards too), I put it straight back on the rack.  Way too mellow for me.


The usual DLX IV stamp is just right, with the I or II being just a touch too steep in the angle of the kicks, mainly the tail, but it is usually the smallest amount that it mellows out that makes all the difference.

Some other BBS boards are perfect, but other woodshops that make more mellow boards just don't work at all, so this is an easy enough fix for anyone who does want to mellow out the kicks while still having the same cross concave and shape and board feel.


Doing something like this is definitely not for everyone, that's for sure, but at least it is a way to help me feel more comfortable on a board I might not ride so easily, without having to have a whole different product line, as per some brands, woodshops, etc.

[Fast_Freddie]

FYI, South Central is now offering both twin nose & twin tail decks ranging in size from 8.0" - 8.75"  I am sorry, I don't have the dimensions of each...

[YMCMB]

FYI, South Central is now offering both twin nose & twin tail decks ranging in size from 8.0" - 8.75"  I am sorry, I don't have the dimensions of each...

Where did you happen to see this?

[Fast_Freddie]

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FYI, South Central is now offering both twin nose & twin tail decks ranging in size from 8.0" - 8.75"  I am sorry, I don't have the dimensions of each...

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Where did you happen to see this?

In an email to South Central asking about them...

[nosneb]

Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently
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Ha yeah, any time I have been able to stand on one of those Mini Logo boards (or some Control boards too), I put it straight back on the rack.  Way too mellow for me.

Funny when people talk about liking mellow boards but don’t actually skate mellow boards

[rocklobster]

X-post from the Twin Tail thread:

Picked up some Habitat 8.38 twins and looks like they went back to BBS

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mark-suciu-marble-maze-8-375-twin
BBS, black and white "Made in Mexico" sticker

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mosaic-20-white-8-375-twin
DSM, white sticker with "Made in China"

Seems like they were using China for 1 season late last year, back to BBS now

[Doosh215]

X-post from the Twin Tail thread:

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Picked up some Habitat 8.38 twins and looks like they went back to BBS

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mark-suciu-marble-maze-8-375-twin
BBS, black and white "Made in Mexico" sticker

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mosaic-20-white-8-375-twin
DSM, white sticker with "Made in China"

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Seems like they were using China for 1 season late last year, back to BBS now

Yeah I got an Alien team board from the most recent drop thinking it might be China, but it's BBS

[Mbrimson88]

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Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently
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Ha yeah, any time I have been able to stand on one of those Mini Logo boards (or some Control boards too), I put it straight back on the rack.  Way too mellow for me.

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Funny when people talk about liking mellow boards but don’t actually skate mellow boards

Guilty I know. 


People today were saying my Krooked was the flattest board they had skated - it is definitely a much more mellow concave than most, plus I parked on the kicks to really flatten them out, but the board might still feel like it has more than the two of those old ones, the 1996 Real 8.25 and 1998 World Industries 7.6 boards I have, if I recall correctly.  That is the era of flat boards isn't it, or at least boards to compare to them as others you have posted before?


For reference, my 8.38 Krooked board has about 5mm rise from middle to rails and angle of kicks 17 degrees nose and 16 degrees tail, which they were saying went almost horizontal when flexed, but I don't think it was quite that flexed out and still had enough not to feel soggy or mushed out.

[Woodshop]

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X-post from the Twin Tail thread:

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Picked up some Habitat 8.38 twins and looks like they went back to BBS

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mark-suciu-marble-maze-8-375-twin
BBS, black and white "Made in Mexico" sticker

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/mosaic-20-white-8-375-twin
DSM, white sticker with "Made in China"

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Seems like they were using China for 1 season late last year, back to BBS now

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Yeah I got an Alien team board from the most recent drop thinking it might be China, but it's BBS

Were they Asia / Europe or USA that you guys saw or bought the Habitat boards?

I thought Alien Workshop hadn't changed, but Habitat in EU / Asia was getting Dwindle or other boards for a bit, depending on their distribution.

Could be wrong, but it seemed Alien Workshop here in AU were all on BBS apart from the advertised pricepoint boards, which were labelled as China, but Habitat were more mixed / not as clear with the boards that came in as they were through a different distro.


Any which way, I need to update the listings for them as I think I missed putting those in and had BBS 2022.

[nosneb]

In the states the pro models are usually Mexico and the feast with the orange cardboard on the right side and silver sticker on the left is some China wood stuff

[Woodshop]

In the states the pro models are usually Mexico and the feast with the orange cardboard on the right side and silver sticker on the left is some China wood stuff

Thanks.


Not sure if the others didn't see the question or anyone else in other parts of the world had any other info, re Alien Workshop and Habitat wood.


I wonder how many brands might be back on the BBS program now that went with other options, or some that are now going with Generator, PS Stix or any other woodshops if they are operating with lower minimums and greater access.

[rocklobster]

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In the states the pro models are usually Mexico and the feast with the orange cardboard on the right side and silver sticker on the left is some China wood stuff

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Thanks.


Not sure if the others didn't see the question or anyone else in other parts of the world had any other info, re Alien Workshop and Habitat wood.


I wonder how many brands might be back on the BBS program now that went with other options, or some that are now going with Generator, PS Stix or any other woodshops if they are operating with lower minimums and greater access.

Over the past years I've ridden / bought:
3 x Mark Suciu 8.38 Twin -

2 of these, 1 was BBS, 1 was from China


1 of these, just a month ago, this was BBS



I saw this in the shop, it had a made in China sticker

And the other 8.38 twin tails (Habitat Apex Bold / Habitat Mosaic 20th Anniversary) had a made in China sticker.

But based on their latest drop it looks like they are back to BBS.

[Sativa Lung]

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Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently
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Ha yeah, any time I have been able to stand on one of those Mini Logo boards (or some Control boards too), I put it straight back on the rack.  Way too mellow for me.

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Funny when people talk about liking mellow boards but don’t actually skate mellow boards

Or know what one even is. I had a shop owner in Texas straight up try to argue with me that most PS boards weren't flatter than BBS when I asked him to check a dlx stamp for me. I was like dude you don't even want to start this shit with me I'm asking you to look at something, not for your shitty "advice"...I would have whipped the protractor and Digi angle finder out on his ass if he kept it up.

[Mbrimson88]

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Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently
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Ha yeah, any time I have been able to stand on one of those Mini Logo boards (or some Control boards too), I put it straight back on the rack.  Way too mellow for me.

[close]

Funny when people talk about liking mellow boards but don’t actually skate mellow boards

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Or know what one even is. I had a shop owner in Texas straight up try to argue with me that most PS boards weren't flatter than BBS when I asked him to check a dlx stamp for me. I was like dude you don't even want to start this shit with me I'm asking you to look at something, not for your shitty "advice"...I would have whipped the protractor and Digi angle finder out on his ass if he kept it up.

I get that there would be varying degrees of what people call mellow, or even flat boards, but do you guys have some dimensions or list of info that would help anyone determine what you would consider mellow / flat boards?

Just trying to get some sort of gauge as to what you are talking about here, certainly not trying to start a fight or cause drama, but every time I ask for measurements, none are forthcoming.

As I posted earlier on what I would call a mellow Krooked board I have, an 8.38 the middle of the board concave rise was about 5 mm (usually more like 7 - 8 mm) and the angle of kicks was 17 on the nose and 16 on the tail, usually more like 22 nose, 21 tail for the average DLX boards, even the IV stamp, with a I stamp in 8.38 being 9 mm rise and 24 degrees nose and 23 degrees tail.  From that alone this board is way more mellow than other boards in the same category, but I personally would not be calling it "flat" just "mellow concave" when compared to most.


The 1996 Real 8.25 has about 4 - 5 mm concave and about 15 degrees kicks, with the 1998 World Industries deck that measures about 7.6 having 3 - 4 mm concave and similarly 15 degrees in the kicks.  Those two even just look flat and standing on them is another story compared to any modern board I have from any woodshop, but they still have more concave than some others that people might be posting, eg a 7.5 Girl board I had seen once was like nothing I recall, almost zero concave across and only the slightest inclination in the kicks too, but it was so beat to death and worn down I would imagine there was a bit more to it when new.

I also understand that the smaller a board is, the more mellow / flat it is going to seem, so something of 7.5 is always going to seem flatter than something of 8.25 or bigger, even with the mellow mold or flat presses that some companies use.


Anyway, here's hoping anyone could come back with some dimensions, info, even pics, etc as per the "Super mellow decks like this" thread.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113648.0

[Scottboarding]

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Yeah I agree. Skated a mini logo for 7 minutes and hated every moment of it recently
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Ha yeah, any time I have been able to stand on one of those Mini Logo boards (or some Control boards too), I put it straight back on the rack.  Way too mellow for me.

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Funny when people talk about liking mellow boards but don’t actually skate mellow boards

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Or know what one even is. I had a shop owner in Texas straight up try to argue with me that most PS boards weren't flatter than BBS when I asked him to check a dlx stamp for me. I was like dude you don't even want to start this shit with me I'm asking you to look at something, not for your shitty "advice"...I would have whipped the protractor and Digi angle finder out on his ass if he kept it up.

Shop employees should know better than to argue with Shoes & Gear users.

[Mbrimson88]

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In terms of woodshops / brands, I don't have access to DOA boards, but from what everyone says they have the flattest.

I have some PGI wood which definitely felt very flat overall in the 8 and 8.125, even in the wider 8.5 size boards, but I would still only consider that mellow.

Most others including BBS, PS Stix, Clutch, Control, are anywhere from middle ground, sometimes more mellow, sometimes steeper, but others like Pennswood, Dwindle, even some other China made boards were steeper than average overall.

Most others I have identified from the woodshop list feel on the steeper side to me too, that is kicks more than 20 degrees and deeper concave, the one exception being most Powell boards now, but they just feel weird to me, sort of like everything is a bit off any time I stand on one.

Some HLC boards I have feel very flat through the concave, but have more medium angle kicks, on the Plan B and Sk8 Mafia boards that came through my hands, in 8 and 8.25 sizes.

Others like Watson and Prime decks are only the old school shaped boards and although they are very mellow, I don't count them in the same way a normal popsicle board would be, given they are reissues or boards that are meant to be like the 80s or early 90s boards.

If those decks were reshaped into popsicles of 8 to 8.25 they would definitely be flat, as per the 1996 and 1998 boards I have, which seem like they were made from those similar molds, so that would be the closest to what people generally call flat boards now.