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Maybe @skatewood.eu ?
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forgive me if i somehow missed it, but could someone help me with just how flat the flat as fuck decks really are?
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Maybe @skatewood.eu ?


Thanks!

I follow that one, not sure from when, but I guess if it is not shown on here, I forgot it somehow.


https://www.instagram.com/skatewood.eu/






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Apologies if the info is already here somewhere, but now that Dwindle is no more, who is manufacturing Palace boards?

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Apologies if the info is already here somewhere, but now that Dwindle is no more, who is manufacturing Palace boards?
DSM i guess

Dwindle is a distribution, DSM is the manufacturer

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Apologies if the info is already here somewhere, but now that Dwindle is no more, who is manufacturing Palace boards?
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DSM i guess

Dwindle is a distribution, DSM is the manufacturer

Ok I see, thanks!

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Copied from the Twin boards thread.


Curious if anyone has any other info with regard to where these Primitive boards are made - USA woodshop or just marked as Made in USA - but I haven't really seen these very small numbers before.




This Primitive twin has a 4 on it and again made in USA.



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Got myself a new Zero Deck.
Any ideas from which woodshop it is?



Image doesn't show up, so here is the link

https://ibb.co/KwQXq78

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Got myself a new Zero Deck.
Any ideas from which woodshop it is?



Image doesn't show up, so here is the link

https://ibb.co/KwQXq78

DSM

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Got myself a new Zero Deck.
Any ideas from which woodshop it is?



Image doesn't show up, so here is the link

https://ibb.co/KwQXq78


Are you in Asia, Europe, Australia or somewhere similar?

The Zero boards in USA seem to still be on BBS or similar wood, but the boards in most other places in the world were on other wood for a fair while, more commonly DSM (same as Dwindle wood - Enjoi, Darkstar, Almost, etc) or some other cheap licenced unknown woodshop from China for us here in Australia.

DSM is good wood - very stiff and decent boards, but might be a little bit more specific for people who like really stiff and crispy boards.


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Got myself a new Zero Deck.
Any ideas from which woodshop it is?



Image doesn't show up, so here is the link

https://ibb.co/KwQXq78
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Are you in Asia, Europe, Australia or somewhere similar?

The Zero boards in USA seem to still be on BBS or similar wood, but the boards in most other places in the world were on other wood for a fair while, more commonly DSM (same as Dwindle wood - Enjoi, Darkstar, Almost, etc) or some other cheap licenced unknown woodshop from China for us here in Australia.

DSM is good wood - very stiff and decent boards, but might be a little bit more specific for people who like really stiff and crispy boards.

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Copied from the Twin boards thread.


Curious if anyone has any other info with regard to where these Primitive boards are made - USA woodshop or just marked as Made in USA - but I haven't really seen these very small numbers before.


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This Primitive twin has a 4 on it and again made in USA.
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Pennswood will stamp numbers between bolts and Primitive has used them in the past.  Something about the typeface looks different though but only Pennswood deck I have right now is already gripped.

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Copied from the Twin boards thread.


Curious if anyone has any other info with regard to where these Primitive boards are made - USA woodshop or just marked as Made in USA - but I haven't really seen these very small numbers before.


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This Primitive twin has a 4 on it and again made in USA.
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Pennswood will stamp numbers between bolts and Primitive has used them in the past.  Something about the typeface looks different though but only Pennswood deck I have right now is already gripped.
Never skated a Pennswood before but this deck is really good. Coming from a Real BBS the transition was easy. The concave is a bit different I’ll say that.

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Got myself a new Zero Deck.
Any ideas from which woodshop it is?



Image doesn't show up, so here is the link

https://ibb.co/KwQXq78
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Are you in Asia, Europe, Australia or somewhere similar?

The Zero boards in USA seem to still be on BBS or similar wood, but the boards in most other places in the world were on other wood for a fair while, more commonly DSM (same as Dwindle wood - Enjoi, Darkstar, Almost, etc) or some other cheap licenced unknown woodshop from China for us here in Australia.

DSM is good wood - very stiff and decent boards, but might be a little bit more specific for people who like really stiff and crispy boards.

Did you look at the photo? It says made in China, so that means Dailan or some similar Chinese shop.

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Got myself a new Zero Deck.
Any ideas from which woodshop it is?



Image doesn't show up, so here is the link

https://ibb.co/KwQXq78
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Are you in Asia, Europe, Australia or somewhere similar?

The Zero boards in USA seem to still be on BBS or similar wood, but the boards in most other places in the world were on other wood for a fair while, more commonly DSM (same as Dwindle wood - Enjoi, Darkstar, Almost, etc) or some other cheap licenced unknown woodshop from China for us here in Australia.

DSM is good wood - very stiff and decent boards, but might be a little bit more specific for people who like really stiff and crispy boards.
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Did you look at the photo? It says made in China, so that means Dailan or some similar Chinese shop.


Yes, the photo was clear and easy to see.

DSM, aka Dwindle wood, is and has always been made in China, with that pic as classic DSM markings.

The reason I said Zero is most commonly BBS in USA only, hence asking where in the world he was, which as I thought was not in USA, more likely Asia or Europe.


* DSM actually stands for Douglas Street Manufacturing founded in 2003 which is a bit funny, but always shortened to DSM so some people might not realise, or others had always thought it was just "Dwindle Skateboard Manufacturing" as I had thought before I heard the real name.

More info here if anyone is interested:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwindle_Distribution


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hlcdistribution stories show what looks like a HLC factory in Austin TX

With a caption «  HLC USA UP AND RUNNING »

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I wonder if they used that investment money to automize more stuff.  From that factory video it looked like there were some steps more auzomized already then in other factories i've seen online Videos from with that robotic arm involved picking up stuff etc.

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I wonder if they used that investment money to automize more stuff.  From that factory video it looked like there were some steps more auzomized already then in other factories i've seen online Videos from with that robotic arm involved picking up stuff etc.

Their recent factory in Spain from a couple years back has that automated / modern stuff. Would make sense they replicate that in the other factory.

@Mbrimson88 i didn’t see that coming to be honest in those times and economy.

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I wonder if they used that investment money to automize more stuff.  From that factory video it looked like there were some steps more auzomized already then in other factories i've seen online Videos from with that robotic arm involved picking up stuff etc.
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Their recent factory in Spain from a couple years back has that automated / modern stuff. Would make sense they replicate that in the other factory.

@Mbrimson88 i didn’t see that coming to be honest in those times and economy.


For sure!

That is maybe the only thing that a new establishment has over the older ones, in that they can buy the newest presses and equipment, which are almost all automated now, just the human there to make sure things go as planned.

I guess though, that adds up to enough to pay fewer wages, so they can operate in USA at a lower overall cost to make the boards, compared to other woodshops having to go to cheaper wage countries for production.

All part of the process, but very interesting, none the less.


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So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?

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So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?

HLC Europe boards are good. They might feel a tiny bit thicker than average to some, but overall they are solid decks. Especially the high concave shapes are great.

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So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?
Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free
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So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?
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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free

Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.

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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free
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Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.
Not sure, maybe the cringe graphics or the skaters sponsored by them? Couldn't really tell
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So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?
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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free
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Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.
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Not sure, maybe the cringe graphics or the skaters sponsored by them? Couldn't really tell

If you find a decent Jart Deck, you're associated with a brand that also make this.





I think Jart being whack hurt HLCs Northan american expansion, and adoption of HLC wood. I'm sure the wood is fine. The most compelling brands they have are Roger and Sk8mafia

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So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?
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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free
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Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.
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Not sure, maybe the cringe graphics or the skaters sponsored by them? Couldn't really tell
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If you find a decent Jart Deck, you're associated with a brand that also make this.





I think Jart being whack hurt HLCs Northan american expansion, and adoption of HLC wood. I'm sure the wood is fine. The most compelling brands they have are Roger and Sk8mafia
Add Sour and maybe Flip.
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As Fuck.

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So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?
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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free
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Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.
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Not sure, maybe the cringe graphics or the skaters sponsored by them? Couldn't really tell
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If you find a decent Jart Deck, you're associated with a brand that also make this.





I think Jart being whack hurt HLCs Northan american expansion, and adoption of HLC wood. I'm sure the wood is fine. The most compelling brands they have are Roger and Sk8mafia
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Add Sour and maybe Flip.
i feel like flip is in no way compelling anymore.
sour, sk8 mafia, and roger all put out videos frequently and their riders get coverage.
what does flip do? id put plan b before flip, just above jart at the bottom of the hlc barrel.

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So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?
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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free
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Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.
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Not sure, maybe the cringe graphics or the skaters sponsored by them? Couldn't really tell
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If you find a decent Jart Deck, you're associated with a brand that also make this.





I think Jart being whack hurt HLCs Northan american expansion, and adoption of HLC wood. I'm sure the wood is fine. The most compelling brands they have are Roger and Sk8mafia
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Add Sour and maybe Flip.
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i feel like flip is in no way compelling anymore.
sour, sk8 mafia, and roger all put out videos frequently and their riders get coverage.
what does flip do? id put plan b before flip, just above jart at the bottom of the hlc barrel.

Yeah. Don't think flips been relevant for a while. Has anyone on the team put out any footage recently besides Tom? Also, graphics are ass.
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The name is Jart. It was already an uphill battle and they decided to put on ankle weights with those graphics.

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So far HLC hasn’t had great reviews?  Or is that a north American bias?
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Could be a North American bias as you said, here in the UE I never heard anything bad from them. Boards are pretty good, maybe a little heavier bit nothing too terrible.
One thing that's for sure thar Jart is considered as a kook brand. They also have this "Cruzade" brand that feels that is trying too hard to be Santa Cruz (idk why anybody would want that).
Never had any issue with their boards, skated some Sour and once a Jart I got for free
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Why exactly is Jart a kook brand? Honest question, as this is news to me. I have no relation to the brand whatsoever, mind you.
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Not sure, maybe the cringe graphics or the skaters sponsored by them? Couldn't really tell
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If you find a decent Jart Deck, you're associated with a brand that also make this.





I think Jart being whack hurt HLCs Northan american expansion, and adoption of HLC wood. I'm sure the wood is fine. The most compelling brands they have are Roger and Sk8mafia
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Add Sour and maybe Flip.
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i feel like flip is in no way compelling anymore.
sour, sk8 mafia, and roger all put out videos frequently and their riders get coverage.
what does flip do? id put plan b before flip, just above jart at the bottom of the hlc barrel.
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Yeah. Don't think flips been relevant for a while. Has anyone on the team put out any footage recently besides Tom? Also, graphics are ass.

Alec Majerus had a part a few months ago that I enjoyed. Kinda a shame he's still on the brand lol