Author Topic: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)  (Read 7938 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

thanksgiving

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 216
  • Rep: 144
POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« on: May 15, 2022, 09:59:23 PM »
Alright heres the deal:

These things fuck, and there is somehow no thread about these. Pretty tough to find info, but they are a ton of fun and easy enough to make out of an old deck.

Polarizers are a concept popularized(invented?) by Neil Blender, and can be made by cutting down an old deck and flipping it upside down, or purchased from theheatedwheel.com, or smaller boutique(as much as i hate that word) brands on instagram.

Heres a video of one in action:

https://vimeo.com/167815823
my setup:
Heated Wheel Hewitt Deck
Sure Grip vintage
Rough Riders 56
Bones Hardcore Soft
6-32 hardware
3 washers on the inside, so the wheels dont touch the bushing seat

j....soy.....

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 15940
  • Rep: 1133
  • SLAP OG SLAP OG : Been around since SLAP was a mag.
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2022, 10:06:53 PM »
Like a zip zinger we talkin?

thanksgiving

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 216
  • Rep: 144
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2022, 10:07:56 PM »
Like a zip zinger we talkin?
smaller, these boards are 6 inches at the widest. kind of a rule of polarizers to have negative or flat concave. gotta use old roller skates because even 109 indies are too big

tofuweenie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7
  • Rep: -1
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2022, 12:56:37 AM »
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109955.0

^probs closest topic to what youíre thinking

Iíve been passively looking for a board to put on the sure grips Iíve got, but nothing has really caught my eye

boston_bruins

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 2
  • Rep: 1
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2022, 08:43:56 AM »

sharkin

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 2287
  • Rep: 332
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2022, 09:21:47 AM »
I built one a little while ago from an old deck. had a lot of fun shaping it with a jigsaw and sander. cleaned up the graphic and sprayed it with some random paint then clearcoated the whole thing. I pushed the WB as far as I could with the nose and tail -19.75" axle to axle.
This thing is super fun but i need to dial in the bushings a bit. I'm using stock indy bushings in place of what came on the sure grip trucks. Took a dremel to the truck plates to clear some room for proper nuts. I didn't want to use screws or tiny bolts and all the decent sized nuts with nylock didn't seat right on the plate.

Grimplarizer 6.25" x 27.5"
SureGrip trucks (Stock indy bushings) 2 speed rings inside, 1 outside.
Flip bearings here but swapped out with Swiss 6
Acid Pods - 55mm 86A
no grip on top.. yet






Ronnie Rodriguez

  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 139
  • Rep: 125
  • The best Johnny Depp impersonator in the world
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2022, 10:03:24 AM »
Not a Polarizer but a flat/borderline convex 70s style board:





70s MPI Jimbo Philips (solid mahogany), 6" x 23", 11" WB
6" penny trucks, Ace bushings
OJ Superjuice 60mm

I've posted this in the tiny trucks thread, but I love it so any excuse to re-share.

Buttfart Rapedick

  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 2275
  • Rep: 584
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2022, 10:39:00 PM »
This looks like the kind of thing you can only ride in California.

cucktard

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 2504
  • Rep: 280
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2022, 11:34:01 PM »
This looks like the kind of thing you can only ride in California.

Actually Blender and the polarizer cult swear by Bones Roughriders (and so do I)

You can cruise over most stuff with those bad boys.
Iím trying to be every momís favorite skaterí-&&

&& is no stranger to the female species. Hes always got some travel pussy with him in his slambulance. -Hateboard


Coping Grinder

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 61
  • Rep: 12
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2022, 04:50:51 AM »
While these have always certainly piqued my interest, I have also struggled to understand the applications of them. Seems limited to small and cruisy transition, that and a micro cruiser.

cucktard

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 2504
  • Rep: 280
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2022, 06:30:04 AM »
While these have always certainly piqued my interest, I have also struggled to understand the applications of them. Seems limited to small and cruisy transition, that and a micro cruiser.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B91oGZglJ32/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Iím trying to be every momís favorite skaterí-&&

&& is no stranger to the female species. Hes always got some travel pussy with him in his slambulance. -Hateboard


thanksgiving

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 216
  • Rep: 144
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2022, 09:17:30 AM »
While these have always certainly piqued my interest, I have also struggled to understand the applications of them. Seems limited to small and cruisy transition, that and a micro cruiser.
itís a nostalgia trip for older guys, a super fun cruiser, highly customizable diy project, and the turn is unlike anything else. it feels very strange because the boards donít really tilt all that much due to small hangars

thanksgiving

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 216
  • Rep: 144
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2022, 09:21:11 AM »
i need to dial in the bushings a bit. I'm using stock indy bushings in place of what came on the sure grip trucks.

the bones soft bushings is what blender reccomends, but the way he sets it up you need two sets because he uses all bottoms for a deeper turn. iíve seen a lot of people use powerdyne bushings and heard good things. because the hangars are so small you want to go considerably softer than you normally would because thereís less leverage on the bushings

fernando the skater

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 137
  • Rep: 24
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2022, 11:34:46 AM »
The main positive of these decks is that you can't really do any tricks on them. Back to just carving around for the fun of it.

yourbreakfsat

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 1122
  • Rep: 336
  • Bronze Topic Start Bronze Topic Start : Start a topic with over 1,000 replies.
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2022, 07:32:42 PM »
While these have always certainly piqued my interest, I have also struggled to understand the applications of them. Seems limited to small and cruisy transition, that and a micro cruiser.

It gives the board a camber shape which makes flatground pumping and carving feel much easier and efficient. The middle of the board flexes, which you can see in the video in the OP of this thread.

https://www.anchorplankskateboards.com.au/post/what-is-longboard-skateboard-camber-rocker

You'll see this same concept on some slalom boards, moreso the older ones as I think current slalom boards rely on special trucks for the same performance nowadays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-mgyaAD7fM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG5r7ZBcUd8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXgb_r9rg7A

Semi off topic but here's Rick McCrank competing in a freestyle competition and Frank Gerwer competing in a slalom competition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhEsNDQsRkM

tofuweenie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7
  • Rep: -1
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2022, 11:36:23 AM »
I know Bennetts are still producedóand moddedófor  slalom I think. Pretty interesting.

https://www.sk8kings.com/bennett-modified-truck-skennett-front-turning-truck-106mm-one-truck.html

Plan9Customs

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 522
  • Rep: 217
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2022, 06:14:10 PM »
The main positive of these decks is that you can't really do any tricks on them. Back to just carving around for the fun of it.
Exactly. I donít have a polarizer (yet) but do have a 70s MPI for when Iím injured or walking the dog or rain rolls.


Same as Ronnie Rodriguezís. Flat except for a very slight kick tail.
 I have the trucks/wheels for a polarizer but havenít caught the drops in time. I may just make one if I keep missing them.

thanksgiving

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 216
  • Rep: 144
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2022, 12:18:03 AM »
Expand Quote
The main positive of these decks is that you can't really do any tricks on them. Back to just carving around for the fun of it.
[close]
I have the trucks/wheels for a polarizer but havenít caught the drops in time. I may just make one if I keep missing them.
there will be a new drop this summer! i think mid july. shops have been getting them consistently but thereís 5 or so new graphic ones on the way

Buttfart Rapedick

  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 2275
  • Rep: 584
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2022, 12:44:00 AM »

Semi off topic but here's Rick McCrank competing in a freestyle competition and Frank Gerwer competing in a slalom competition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhEsNDQsRkM

Just gonna piggyback on this and say anyone who's a fan of McCrank (so everyone) should watch post-radical. It always seems like no one knows it exists but it's one of my favorite vice shows.

Hyliannightmare

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 1417
  • Rep: -164
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2022, 03:34:47 AM »
While these have always certainly piqued my interest, I have also struggled to understand the applications of them. Seems limited to small and cruisy transition, that and a micro cruiser.

This. I don't think I have the skillset to properly maximize one of these. They're cool to look at though especially the diy ones

George Vallore

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 75
  • Rep: 11
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2022, 01:19:10 PM »

Ronnie Rodriguez

  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 139
  • Rep: 125
  • The best Johnny Depp impersonator in the world
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2022, 01:28:03 PM »
Has anyone here used single-action trucks on the polarizer, and if so can they comment on how the ride is?

George Vallore

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 75
  • Rep: 11
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2022, 02:49:32 PM »
Has anyone here used single-action trucks on the polarizer, and if so can they comment on how the ride is?

Would love to know as well. One of the last variants I haven't gotten around to trying out.

Candied cigarettes

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 506
  • Rep: 52
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2022, 06:58:19 PM »

Plan9Customs

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 522
  • Rep: 217
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2022, 09:19:48 PM »
Expand Quote
Expand Quote
The main positive of these decks is that you can't really do any tricks on them. Back to just carving around for the fun of it.
[close]
I have the trucks/wheels for a polarizer but havenít caught the drops in time. I may just make one if I keep missing them.
[close]
there will be a new drop this summer! i think mid july. shops have been getting them consistently but thereís 5 or so new graphic ones on the way
Thanks. Hopefully theyíll be one left after 5pm when they do. Unfortunately in Yuba we have no shops and the closest are an hour away in any direction(Sacto/Grass Valley/Chico) so Iím always behind. I keep checking Neilís site but havenít hit any yet. Thanks again for the heads up about the next drop.

George Vallore

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 75
  • Rep: 11
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2022, 03:38:13 AM »
To anyone generally unfamiliar with the concept of The Polarizer...


"Polarizer" is technically the name of the board sold from The Heated Wheel.

Some cult factions of the community believe that "Polarizer" is also the PERSON who MAKES the board, and that you're not a Polarizer and the board is not a Polarizer until you've put together the board with a set of specific parameters.

Those parameters include:

-Acquiring/making your own deck and riding it "upside down."
-Bones Swiss Bearings.
-New, low durometer wheels.
-Contested: Cut up roller skate trucks OR Sure Grip "vintage" skate trucks.
-Mounting said trucks of your own volition with a large wheelbase.
-Contested: Using wood/sheet metal screws to mount trucks.

Like all niche subgroups, the rules can get pedantic and silly to a beginner or outside observer.
With most things precious to people in these type of groups, there is a significant amount of gatekeeping.
And it's not without merit, because we all know that too much exposure can suck the life out of something pure.
You see, there is a bit of skate philosophy behind the making of this board.
It's not a gimmick or a trend.
The board was made to tap into a part of skateboarding that can get lost as new generations come up in a world of Instagram clips, "do a kickflip," Olympic exposure, etc.

Think of the idea of the "soul surfer." It's not far off of an idea, in that skateboarding's roots are that of the "sidewalk surfboard." A polarizer is the modern version of the sidewalk skateboard. It's the original idea of skateboarding with modern
technology. When people ride one for the first time, it feels fucking weird and scary because you're both regressing and progressing, if that makes sense. It's a way, in my opinion, to "relearn" how to skate. You have to learn to turn, to carve, to flow, or else it won't work. You have to retrain your muscle memory to commit to deeper carves. You have to GO FAST. You HAVE to actually SKATE.

I fucking love these boards. I'm older, and I found myself gravitating towards Zip Zingers, smaller and looser trucks, and speed cruising towards the end of my tenure with traditional skateboards. I had no interest in big, pig-style cruisers, Landyachtz style boards, or anything that felt like a Sherman Tank. I wanted smaller, squirrelly boards that still had a foot in my history with skateboarding. When someone turned me on to polarizers, I instantly got it. That's what I was looking for. The simplicity and the originality. New/Old.



If you decide to fall down the rabbit hole of Polarization, be prepared for a  veritable shit-ton of talk about bushings.
And pivot cups.
And how to remove a 7mm axle from a roller skate.
And wheelbase.
And "Where can I get a copy of When the Grunion Run?"
And why won't Blender answer my DMs/send me a board/do my dishes/berate my stepdad.





sharkin

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 2287
  • Rep: 332
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2022, 06:36:33 AM »
There was a blog post I read that compared Polarizers to rat rod culture and I think that's pretty accurate. https://shredshack.com/building-a-polarizer-skateboard/
Rebirth of the old, emphasis on performance. Its much more DIY endeavor than buying a complete or getting of the shelf parts and assembling.

Here's a before/after of the grimple polarization.
I slapped on some scraps of grip last night. Gonna fuck with my bushings this weekend and fine some hills and banks to get bionic on.


fernando the skater

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 137
  • Rep: 24
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2022, 12:18:59 PM »
Not tried an actual Heated Wheel Polarizer, but I've done the cut up an old deck and turn it upside down thing, and also have a 70s 27" fibreglass deck in Polarizer shape.

For me the wooden deck didn't work well. It felt like you were standing on the deck, whilst with the flex of the fibreglass deck you're more connected when you push down as you carve a bank or pump and slalom on the flat. A much nicer feeling.

Plan9Customs

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 522
  • Rep: 217
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2022, 06:55:26 PM »
If you can find a 6 ply those flex a lot. Iím going to hit up Corey when he does a batch of 6ís for Winsor. Hopefully he can spare one before theyíre cut.

cucktard

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 2504
  • Rep: 280
Re: POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2022, 07:49:05 PM »
Iíve cut up a Powell flight, and it works great. Nice flex, and super strong. Just  use gloves and goggles when you cut it up, as the carbon fiber layers can be a pain
Iím trying to be every momís favorite skaterí-&&

&& is no stranger to the female species. Hes always got some travel pussy with him in his slambulance. -Hateboard