POLARIZER THREAD (60s/70s style boards)

[cripmeister]

I checked eBay for the Haftrack pivot cup but they sell bags of 50 of them, and I’m in France, with shipping and taxes that would be very expensive for 2 pivot cup unfortunately…

I’m planning on getting a non drilled HW board so I could go either for the HW trucks or the Sure Grip!

Thanks to all of you for taking the time to answer my questions, it is very helpful!

I started out on Sure Grip a couple of years ago and they are great. They are a pain to set up and will develop kingpin slop BUT if you get Harrys Stud kingpins all that is resolved (justcool.se sells them). The HW trucks are just as good and a bit more 'turny' but of course the stock bushings suck and so does the pivot cups. Right now I am running the HW trucks with Sure Grip rubber pivot cups and yellow Powerdyne bushings, it works but I might make my own nylon pivot cups. Good luck!

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Saw the above video and was wondering how wobbly these narrow trucks are? How fast do you get speed wobbles?

[fernando the skater]

I checked eBay for the Haftrack pivot cup but they sell bags of 50 of them, and I’m in France, with shipping and taxes that would be very expensive for 2 pivot cup unfortunately…

A couple of people on Ebay in the UK sell them.

[Sikost]

You are correct, found the seller in the Uk!

I asked Neil Blender about the Acs 430 pivot on Instagram, he just replied to me:

« Sure grip pivot inserts will work, the cheap ones black rubber. Sin City rollerskate shop in kernel Mesa should have some,if not try a dude on e bay w the handle skating2fast, ACS 430’s are pretty cool you may have to get axle sleeves that will convert those axles so reg 8 mm bearings will fit, that dude on eBay has some. They slip over the threads. »

[Plan9Customs]

[sharkin]

"fall ride"

[The real veganshawn]

What size riser pads are y'all using ?

[Plan9Customs]

"fall ride"

Nicely done sir. Would gnar.

[cripmeister]

You are correct, found the seller in the Uk!

I asked Neil Blender about the Acs 430 pivot on Instagram, he just replied to me:

« Sure grip pivot inserts will work, the cheap ones black rubber. Sin City rollerskate shop in kernel Mesa should have some,if not try a dude on e bay w the handle skating2fast, ACS 430’s are pretty cool you may have to get axle sleeves that will convert those axles so reg 8 mm bearings will fit, that dude on eBay has some. They slip over the threads. »

Sleeves are not neccesary just get 7mm bearings, Bones make some and others too. If you are in Europe check out justcool.se rollerskate section.

[fernando the skater]

I'm using normal bearings on my ACS 430s. No issues.

[mattchew]

What size riser pads are y'all using ?

None.

[Plan9Customs]

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What size riser pads are y'all using ?

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None.

[IpathCats]

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What size riser pads are y'all using ?

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None.

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[The real veganshawn]

Good to know

[Sikost]

Anybody tried Vulcan Morris trucks?!

[Art Greco]

Anybody tried Vulcan Morris trucks?!

No, but they look great. Perfect for a Polarizer.

[IpathCats]

Anybody tried Vulcan Morris trucks?!

dang, some real relics.

super cool.

[fernando the skater]

Anybody tried Vulcan Morris trucks?!

If you could stick them on Ebay UK you'd make some decent money for those.

[Sikost]

I’m still talking with the seller on a french second hand site, he still has to find the box in his warehouse but says there are some Vulcan Morris left. The listing and prices are also in the box

[Sikost]

He has also those trucks in the add, can’t find any informations about them…

[fernando the skater]

I’m still talking with the seller on a french second hand site, he still has to find the box in his warehouse but says there are some Vulcan Morris left. The listing and prices are also in the box

I'd stick with the ACS 430s, if I was you. Those Morris Vulcan have a very small pivot, which might break, and the soft 70s pivots will wear out in a couple of hours, and you'll never be able to find replacements. Also has a smaller diameter kingpin bolt than the ACS.

[Sikost]

Good point!! I’m still waiting to know how much he will ask for them! Going to do one set up with Acs 430 and  also have some HW trucks coming

[fernando the skater]

Here's mine set up. Just so you can see that they work. The wheels are Oj 55mm mini-juice.

With an Indy top bushing and an old softer Tracker bushing on the bottom. I've got a pair of orange 79a Khiros on the front.



The Tracker haf-track pivot fits in the baseplate fine (normal Indy type ones are too big). Slight play with the ACS pivot, but you don't notice it when the trucks are tightened.

[Sikost]

Thanks man! I have a G&S Fiberflex with Acs 500 on it and i like it very much! I’m sure i will manage to dial the 430! I wanted to buy some Sure Grip but i can only find them in the UK, and between the shipping cost and taxes to send to France, i went for the HW trucks and ordered two packs of Powerdyne yellow bushing and some Bones med for the bottom back trucks

[sharkin]

Anyone running a Peter Hewitt specials? What WB do you have?

The Fiber rider wheelbase is 13 5/8" measured bolt to bolt, and I'm used to my polarizer at 16".. Wondering how different this board will be. Probably an even tighter turn which sounds fun with the flex

[IpathCats]

Can anyone give a quick review of the HW trucks vs suregrips. @sharkin is the only one who has said anything about their performance.

Trying to decide if its worth it to cop them.

[cripmeister]

Can anyone give a quick review of the HW trucks vs suregrips. @sharkin is the only one who has said anything about their performance.

Trying to decide if its worth it to cop them.

Quick review: They turn sharper than Sure Grips (different geometry). Bushings are too soft and pivot cups are made from squeeky sticky rubber. Set up with new bushings/pivot cups I prefer them over Sure Grips.

[IpathCats]

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Can anyone give a quick review of the HW trucks vs suregrips. @sharkin is the only one who has said anything about their performance.

Trying to decide if its worth it to cop them.

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Quick review: They turn sharper than Sure Grips (different geometry). Bushings are too soft and pivot cups are made from squeeky sticky rubber. Set up with new bushings/pivot cups I prefer them over Sure Grips.

What pivot cups did you use?

[cripmeister]

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Can anyone give a quick review of the HW trucks vs suregrips. @sharkin is the only one who has said anything about their performance.

Trying to decide if its worth it to cop them.

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Quick review: They turn sharper than Sure Grips (different geometry). Bushings are too soft and pivot cups are made from squeeky sticky rubber. Set up with new bushings/pivot cups I prefer them over Sure Grips.

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What pivot cups did you use?

Sure Grip soft rubber ones, not the harder rubber cups that come on their skate trucks (too tight). 

[IpathCats]

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Can anyone give a quick review of the HW trucks vs suregrips. @sharkin is the only one who has said anything about their performance.

Trying to decide if its worth it to cop them.

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Quick review: They turn sharper than Sure Grips (different geometry). Bushings are too soft and pivot cups are made from squeeky sticky rubber. Set up with new bushings/pivot cups I prefer them over Sure Grips.

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What pivot cups did you use?

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Sure Grip soft rubber ones, not the harder rubber cups that come on their skate trucks (too tight).

thanks man