Gear madness support thread

[Mbrimson88]

i like this thread.

i currently have the madness.
i been skating a 9" symmetrical egg and i love the eggs but wanted something a bit smaller to have easier flips.
I ordered the Grimplestix Egg 8.75 and it tapers over the back truck so that you can see the wheels. this drives me crazy so im immediately like no i cant skate this.. so then i go to my local and they have ZERO eggs. i decided to get a 8.75 polar popsicle deck. this feels do bad and weird and i cannot gel with it. so not im sitting on 3 or 4 different decks and dont want to skate any of them really.
i've been going crazy trying to find the specs for the 8.88 heroin eggs bc i think i would like that better than the 9'. the issue is they like trying to find a unicorn right now, so the alternative is the double shovel symmetrical deck from heroin. the Mandy double shovel with the mac n cheese goblin.
Do any of you have experience with double shovel decks?
im currently skating indy 159s and would prefer not to have to buy another set of trucks, but if i want to go down in deck size i think i may have to.

ugh how do you decide without being able to hold the board in your hands first?

Check this post, more so for the good top pic of a double shovel deck - not sure if it is the same shape you are curious about, but I know I have found some good pics of tops of boards to really get a good look and some places will have a lot more info and specs too, eg the over the truck measurements from Conflict Skate Shop and now even Tactics to some degree really help with that.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125937.0


Mandy dimensions below 9 at widest probably closer to 8.6 over trucks.
Width (in):   9.0
Length (in):   31.75
Wheelbase (in):   14.25
Nose (in):   6.75
Tail (in):   6.81



https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/heroin-dead-dave-lives---double-shovel--skateboard-deck-90-x-3175-green--pool-ramp-32878-p.asp

9.0" x 31.75"
7.0" nose
6.625" tail
14.25" WB (measured from inner to inner holes)
New hole truck pattern
Width over front truck : 8.875"
Width over rear truck : 9.0"



This one more just as an example:


https://www.tactics.com/heroin/space-egg-2-94-skateboard-deck/teal


SPECS
SIZE   9.4
FRONT WIDTH (IN):   9.125
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   9.4
BACK WIDTH (IN):   9.25
LENGTH (IN):   32.06
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.5
NOSE (IN):   7.25
TAIL (IN):   6.375

[GrapefruitGrinds]

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i like this thread.

i currently have the madness.
i been skating a 9" symmetrical egg and i love the eggs but wanted something a bit smaller to have easier flips.
I ordered the Grimplestix Egg 8.75 and it tapers over the back truck so that you can see the wheels. this drives me crazy so im immediately like no i cant skate this.. so then i go to my local and they have ZERO eggs. i decided to get a 8.75 polar popsicle deck. this feels do bad and weird and i cannot gel with it. so not im sitting on 3 or 4 different decks and dont want to skate any of them really.
i've been going crazy trying to find the specs for the 8.88 heroin eggs bc i think i would like that better than the 9'. the issue is they like trying to find a unicorn right now, so the alternative is the double shovel symmetrical deck from heroin. the Mandy double shovel with the mac n cheese goblin.
Do any of you have experience with double shovel decks?
im currently skating indy 159s and would prefer not to have to buy another set of trucks, but if i want to go down in deck size i think i may have to.

ugh how do you decide without being able to hold the board in your hands first?

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Check this post, more so for the good top pic of a double shovel deck - not sure if it is the same shape you are curious about, but I know I have found some good pics of tops of boards to really get a good look and some places will have a lot more info and specs too, eg the over the truck measurements from Conflict Skate Shop and now even Tactics to some degree really help with that.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125937.0


Mandy dimensions below 9 at widest probably closer to 8.6 over trucks.
Width (in):   9.0
Length (in):   31.75
Wheelbase (in):   14.25
Nose (in):   6.75
Tail (in):   6.81



https://www.conflictskates.co.uk/heroin-dead-dave-lives---double-shovel--skateboard-deck-90-x-3175-green--pool-ramp-32878-p.asp

9.0" x 31.75"
7.0" nose
6.625" tail
14.25" WB (measured from inner to inner holes)
New hole truck pattern
Width over front truck : 8.875"
Width over rear truck : 9.0"



This one more just as an example:


https://www.tactics.com/heroin/space-egg-2-94-skateboard-deck/teal


SPECS
SIZE   9.4
FRONT WIDTH (IN):   9.125
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   9.4
BACK WIDTH (IN):   9.25
LENGTH (IN):   32.06
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.5
NOSE (IN):   7.25
TAIL (IN):   6.375

Thanks for this. Tactics does have the best spec sheets ive seen.
They are just out of the specific egg i want but now i'm kind of interested in either the Powell Heron 2 egg or Andy's new shape but andy's new shape seems like a gimmick. i really like the squared off nose/tail that his decks have like the shovel shapes. i've just never tried one myself.

[goodatmeth]

I just spent way too many hours rasping and sanding 54mm classic fulls into more of a lock in shape (without the right tools). I took 2mm off one side in order to have exactly as much truck space as with the super skinny bones v3 shape I like. Seems like it fits in this topic even though I'm happy, turned out great. If I had the tools, I'd probably do the same thing to the other side as well, turning them into conicals or even tablets.

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I just spent way too many hours rasping and sanding 54mm classic fulls into more of a lock in shape (without the right tools). I took 2mm off one side in order to have exactly as much truck space as with the super skinny bones v3 shape I like. Seems like it fits in this topic even though I'm happy, turned out great. If I had the tools, I'd probably do the same thing to the other side as well, turning them into conicals or even tablets.

insane.
respect.

[Mbrimson88]

I just spent way too many hours rasping and sanding 54mm classic fulls into more of a lock in shape (without the right tools). I took 2mm off one side in order to have exactly as much truck space as with the super skinny bones v3 shape I like. Seems like it fits in this topic even though I'm happy, turned out great. If I had the tools, I'd probably do the same thing to the other side as well, turning them into conicals or even tablets.

The funny thing is I usually go more the other way - round them off, including Lock ins which worked way more like Classics.

That would have been a hard slog, but they look like they turned out really well for you.

[theloniousmonk]

I just spent way too many hours rasping and sanding 54mm classic fulls into more of a lock in shape (without the right tools). I took 2mm off one side in order to have exactly as much truck space as with the super skinny bones v3 shape I like. Seems like it fits in this topic even though I'm happy, turned out great. If I had the tools, I'd probably do the same thing to the other side as well, turning them into conicals or even tablets.

That’s awesome!
What trucks do you ride? I like the v3’s as well but haven’t had a set in a couple of years

[logjammin]

Been trying to not spend money and do what I can with the gear I already own. Stage 11 hangers work good on Ace classic baseplates but stage 7 hangers work even better. Had a really good session today on this. Fully dialed in and everything.

[moonordie]

I just spent way too many hours rasping and sanding 54mm classic fulls into more of a lock in shape (without the right tools). I took 2mm off one side in order to have exactly as much truck space as with the super skinny bones v3 shape I like. Seems like it fits in this topic even though I'm happy, turned out great. If I had the tools, I'd probably do the same thing to the other side as well, turning them into conicals or even tablets.

I'm curious regarding what are those "not right tools"

[goodatmeth]

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I just spent way too many hours rasping and sanding 54mm classic fulls into more of a lock in shape (without the right tools). I took 2mm off one side in order to have exactly as much truck space as with the super skinny bones v3 shape I like. Seems like it fits in this topic even though I'm happy, turned out great. If I had the tools, I'd probably do the same thing to the other side as well, turning them into conicals or even tablets.

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That’s awesome!
What trucks do you ride? I like the v3’s as well but haven’t had a set in a couple of years

Thunder titanium 148

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I just spent way too many hours rasping and sanding 54mm classic fulls into more of a lock in shape (without the right tools). I took 2mm off one side in order to have exactly as much truck space as with the super skinny bones v3 shape I like. Seems like it fits in this topic even though I'm happy, turned out great. If I had the tools, I'd probably do the same thing to the other side as well, turning them into conicals or even tablets.

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I'm curious regarding what are those "not right tools"

Well all I had was griptape and a rasp that was a bit too smooth for the job

[Kombuch-A-Holic]

In the midst of all the madness, I've switched back to Indys on both of my setups over the past 4-5 months. The Indys feel great, but they affect my tricks negatively. The landings can be shit. Ventures don't have the same feel, but my tricks look more polished with them. While I'm only record flat ground tricks, the difference is stark. I'm thinking of tightening my trucks a bit before considering a switch back. Anyone relate?

[moonordie]

I've been skating exclusively F4 since they dropped (2014? Can't even remember) but all this X99 talk got me weak. Want to try some badly.

[Frank and Fred]

Been trying to not spend money and do what I can with the gear I already own. Stage 11 hangers work good on Ace classic baseplates but stage 7 hangers work even better. Had a really good session today on this. Fully dialed in and everything.

Two 1/8" risers on that set up?

[Wizard0f0dds]

In the midst of all the madness, I've switched back to Indys on both of my setups over the past 4-5 months. The Indys feel great, but they affect my tricks negatively. The landings can be shit. Ventures don't have the same feel, but my tricks look more polished with them. While I'm only record flat ground tricks, the difference is stark. I'm thinking of tightening my trucks a bit before considering a switch back. Anyone relate?

Yes, I'm always struggling with trucks madness too. I was on Thunders with 1/8" wooden risers for a good while and I know that I do my best skating on these. Now I've been back on Indy and while I like the feel of Indys, I feel like I don't skate quite as well on them. I've also tried Ace AF1 hollows, which were also pretty good, as well as Ventures, which I didn't really give a chance to. I'm trying to stick with Indy atm but I often miss how crispy my tricks were on Thunders a lot. Might setup the Ventures again and actually give them time to break in. People seem to really like them so they can't be that bad. I just don't wanna buy new Thunders as I already have 3 pairs of trucks laying around.

This madness shit is no joke.

[LebowskisRug]

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In the midst of all the madness, I've switched back to Indys on both of my setups over the past 4-5 months. The Indys feel great, but they affect my tricks negatively. The landings can be shit. Ventures don't have the same feel, but my tricks look more polished with them. While I'm only record flat ground tricks, the difference is stark. I'm thinking of tightening my trucks a bit before considering a switch back. Anyone relate?

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Yes, I'm always struggling with trucks madness too. I was on Thunders with 1/8" wooden risers for a good while and I know that I do my best skating on these. Now I've been back on Indy and while I like the feel of Indys, I feel like I don't skate quite as well on them. I've also tried Ace AF1 hollows, which were also pretty good, as well as Ventures, which I didn't really give a chance to. I'm trying to stick with Indy atm but I often miss how crispy my tricks were on Thunders a lot. Might setup the Ventures again and actually give them time to break in. People seem to really like them so they can't be that bad. I just don't wanna buy new Thunders as I already have 3 pairs of trucks laying around.

This madness shit is no joke.

Ya I had the same experience. At the end of the day if the landings are shit and you're landing less, the Indys are holding you back. Stick with the Ventures. I can do the same shit on all the trucks I have skated with some differences in height, quality, etc., but at the end of the day you improve by repetition. If you do 1 beastly kickflip out of 10 on Indys and whiff 50% of your nollie tricks but boost the other half that is less useful for learning than if you do 8/10 kickflips on Ventures and don't whiff any nollie tricks but pop em a bit lower.

I hated Ventures in the past and got some V-Lights in a trade and put them on my 14.38WB deck, which I was convinced you just can't ride with Ventures. I had mostly used them on 14.25 in the past. "Effective WB" be damned I am more consistent on them for almost all types of tricks than Indys and was on par with Thunder in sesh 1. Since then I have gotten used to the timing and 3 weeks later am on par with Thunder. I've tried cast as well and it takes about an hour or two to adjust from the V-lights.

Now I have 3 types of trucks I can run and get used to depending on what I am feeling. Its not a bad thing if you let go of there only being one thing you can ride forever out of some sort of brand loyalty.

[Kombuch-A-Holic]

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In the midst of all the madness, I've switched back to Indys on both of my setups over the past 4-5 months. The Indys feel great, but they affect my tricks negatively. The landings can be shit. Ventures don't have the same feel, but my tricks look more polished with them. While I'm only record flat ground tricks, the difference is stark. I'm thinking of tightening my trucks a bit before considering a switch back. Anyone relate?

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Yes, I'm always struggling with trucks madness too. I was on Thunders with 1/8" wooden risers for a good while and I know that I do my best skating on these. Now I've been back on Indy and while I like the feel of Indys, I feel like I don't skate quite as well on them. I've also tried Ace AF1 hollows, which were also pretty good, as well as Ventures, which I didn't really give a chance to. I'm trying to stick with Indy atm but I often miss how crispy my tricks were on Thunders a lot. Might setup the Ventures again and actually give them time to break in. People seem to really like them so they can't be that bad. I just don't wanna buy new Thunders as I already have 3 pairs of trucks laying around.

This madness shit is no joke.

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Ya I had the same experience. At the end of the day if the landings are shit and you're landing less, the Indys are holding you back. Stick with the Ventures. I can do the same shit on all the trucks I have skated with some differences in height, quality, etc., but at the end of the day you improve by repetition. If you do 1 beastly kickflip out of 10 on Indys and whiff 50% of your nollie tricks but boost the other half that is less useful for learning than if you do 8/10 kickflips on Ventures and don't whiff any nollie tricks but pop em a bit lower.

I hated Ventures in the past and got some V-Lights in a trade and put them on my 14.38WB deck, which I was convinced you just can't ride with Ventures. I had mostly used them on 14.25 in the past. "Effective WB" be damned I am more consistent on them for almost all types of tricks than Indys and was on par with Thunder in sesh 1. Since then I have gotten used to the timing and 3 weeks later am on par with Thunder. I've tried cast as well and it takes about an hour or two to adjust from the V-lights.

Now I have 3 types of trucks I can run and get used to depending on what I am feeling. Its not a bad thing if you let go of there only being one thing you can ride forever out of some sort of brand loyalty.

I landed way more on the Ventures that's for sure. I just really like the way I feel on the board with the Indys. Can't have it all I guess. haha

[Sedition]

Venture comments are timely. I'm thinking about trying them again. It's been awhile. I'll be coming off Indy Forged 144s. I don't like the height of standard Indys. That said, what do you guys advise? Cast 5.6s or one of the forged 5.6 options? Thanks in advance!

[LebowskisRug]

Honestly I feel like I understand less about trucks lately. I really, really like the snap of V Lights/forged except for ollie'ing up onto or over tall stuff. No clue why. And the board still feels nimble.

I rode Indy fairly recently and think the cast are closest in pop feel. Kinda heavier and delayed with a really good snap. Likely to be your best bet.

[Sedition]

Honestly I feel like I understand less about trucks lately. I really, really like the snap of V Lights/forged except for ollie'ing up onto or over tall stuff. No clue why. And the board still feels nimble.

I rode Indy fairly recently and think the cast are closest in pop feel. Kinda heavier and delayed with a really good snap. Likely to be your best bet.

Thanks. Curious, do you know what the height on Cast vs. Forged is? It surprising that Thunder lists those specs, but Venture does not.

[LebowskisRug]

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Honestly I feel like I understand less about trucks lately. I really, really like the snap of V Lights/forged except for ollie'ing up onto or over tall stuff. No clue why. And the board still feels nimble.

I rode Indy fairly recently and think the cast are closest in pop feel. Kinda heavier and delayed with a really good snap. Likely to be your best bet.

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Thanks. Curious, do you know what the height on Cast vs. Forged is? It surprising that Thunder lists those specs, but Venture does not.

Shit, it's in someone's sig on here check the Venture thread and read the sigs, but I think forged is like 51.8 or 51.9, Cast is 53.1 or something similar.

I have the V-Hollows as my cast truck, which are lighter than normal Ventures and maybe less hefty pop feel, but to me the 2 options have always felt different enough to notice.

[Sedition]

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Honestly I feel like I understand less about trucks lately. I really, really like the snap of V Lights/forged except for ollie'ing up onto or over tall stuff. No clue why. And the board still feels nimble.

I rode Indy fairly recently and think the cast are closest in pop feel. Kinda heavier and delayed with a really good snap. Likely to be your best bet.

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Thanks. Curious, do you know what the height on Cast vs. Forged is? It surprising that Thunder lists those specs, but Venture does not.

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Shit, it's in someone's sig on here check the Venture thread and read the sigs, but I think forged is like 51.8 or 51.9, Cast is 53.1 or something similar.

I have the V-Hollows as my cast truck, which are lighter than normal Ventures and maybe less hefty pop feel, but to me the 2 options have always felt different enough to notice.

Thanks for the info. I’ve been madness-free for awhile. We need to change that.

[Mbrimson88]

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Honestly I feel like I understand less about trucks lately. I really, really like the snap of V Lights/forged except for ollie'ing up onto or over tall stuff. No clue why. And the board still feels nimble.

I rode Indy fairly recently and think the cast are closest in pop feel. Kinda heavier and delayed with a really good snap. Likely to be your best bet.

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Thanks. Curious, do you know what the height on Cast vs. Forged is? It surprising that Thunder lists those specs, but Venture does not.

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Shit, it's in someone's sig on here check the Venture thread and read the sigs, but I think forged is like 51.8 or 51.9, Cast is 53.1 or something similar.

I have the V-Hollows as my cast truck, which are lighter than normal Ventures and maybe less hefty pop feel, but to me the 2 options have always felt different enough to notice.

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Thanks for the info. I’ve been madness-free for awhile. We need to change that.

Approximately 53.5 on cast plates and 52 on forged plates.



@rocklobster has it in signature with the exact measurements:


Signature:
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m



Venture thread (if you really want to tech out):

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108614.4740

[Mbrimson88]

In the midst of all the madness, I've switched back to Indys on both of my setups over the past 4-5 months. The Indys feel great, but they affect my tricks negatively. The landings can be shit. Ventures don't have the same feel, but my tricks look more polished with them. While I'm only record flat ground tricks, the difference is stark. I'm thinking of tightening my trucks a bit before considering a switch back. Anyone relate?

So just reading back over your posts, you are currently on Indy stage 4 reissues and stage 9 trucks?

I would say the reissues would be a bit more turny than anything else, especially current versions, but what I was going to say more than anything is the bushings will make or break the feeling of pop and landing tricks, especially if they are not solid enough, so using harder bushings might be something to try to firm up the feeling on Indy trucks.

Sure it is not going to change things completely to feel like Ventures, but I noticed that right away when I tried slightly harder bushings in my usual stage 9, 10 and 11 Indy standard trucks, things just seemed to work better and I was having fewer balance issues - getting older, being more lazy with tricks, not bending knees enough, etc.


Just a thought anyway, but I have seen others post similar things on here as well as skating with others to test things like that too.

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Honestly I feel like I understand less about trucks lately. I really, really like the snap of V Lights/forged except for ollie'ing up onto or over tall stuff. No clue why. And the board still feels nimble.

I rode Indy fairly recently and think the cast are closest in pop feel. Kinda heavier and delayed with a really good snap. Likely to be your best bet.

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Thanks. Curious, do you know what the height on Cast vs. Forged is? It surprising that Thunder lists those specs, but Venture does not.

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Shit, it's in someone's sig on here check the Venture thread and read the sigs, but I think forged is like 51.8 or 51.9, Cast is 53.1 or something similar.

I have the V-Hollows as my cast truck, which are lighter than normal Ventures and maybe less hefty pop feel, but to me the 2 options have always felt different enough to notice.

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Thanks for the info. I’ve been madness-free for awhile. We need to change that.

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Approximately 53.5 on cast plates and 52 on forged plates.



@rocklobster has it in signature with the exact measurements:


Signature:
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m



Venture thread (if you really want to tech out):

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108614.4740

I •knew• you would know. Thanks. Cast will be my new madness project.

[logjammin]

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Been trying to not spend money and do what I can with the gear I already own. Stage 11 hangers work good on Ace classic baseplates but stage 7 hangers work even better. Had a really good session today on this. Fully dialed in and everything.

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Two 1/8" risers on that set up?

2 Real 3-ply risers and then two stacked Ace 1/16" shock pads. So 3/8" total. Sounds nuts but on a board with pretty much zero concave it just feel like a normal concave board with 1/4" risers. I'm skating transition and curbs and more into the surf feel of skating so I'm used to being high off the ground and have no issues with stability or feeling "tippy".

[Kombuch-A-Holic]

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In the midst of all the madness, I've switched back to Indys on both of my setups over the past 4-5 months. The Indys feel great, but they affect my tricks negatively. The landings can be shit. Ventures don't have the same feel, but my tricks look more polished with them. While I'm only record flat ground tricks, the difference is stark. I'm thinking of tightening my trucks a bit before considering a switch back. Anyone relate?

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So just reading back over your posts, you are currently on Indy stage 4 reissues and stage 9 trucks?

 [ That's correct. Stage 4's on my 8.0 and I set up the stage 9's on an FA thinking they where 139's but they are in fact 129's. It's actually nice and feels right. lol ]


I would say the reissues would be a bit more turny than anything else, especially current versions, but what I was going to say more than anything is the bushings will make or break the feeling of pop and landing tricks, especially if they are not solid enough, so using harder bushings might be something to try to firm up the feeling on Indy trucks.

[ I'd switched the red bushings with the aftermarket "soft" red ones already. So its a bit firmer.]

Sure it is not going to change things completely to feel like Ventures, but I noticed that right away when I tried slightly harder bushings in my usual stage 9, 10 and 11 Indy standard trucks, things just seemed to work better and I was having fewer balance issues - getting older, being more lazy with tricks, not bending knees enough, etc.

[Looking at my footage I think it's the way I skate that's the issue, I squat a lot and when I go to pop, No Antwuan here.  I can see that the board starts to tilt a bit and I lean. Then with my landings if its not bolts then I'm carving out and stepping off. On the Ventures Its a stable launch. If that makes any sense.] 


Just a thought anyway, but I have seen others post similar things on here as well as skating with others to test things like that too.

I set up some 5.2's last night on the 8.0 and just doing a few tre flips was such a huge difference.  Maybe I should try the loose truck kit...That might just defeat the whole ordeal tho.

[LebowskisRug]

It clearly sounds like forcing looseness is an issue for your ability to actually do tricks. Leave things stable and learn to lean more. Unless you're skating really tight transition or constricted street spots there isn't any reason you need some specific level of looseness.

Just look at how tight Reynolds rides his trucks. It's not a shameful thing. Even local transition skaters I've met ride much tighter than your average Slap poster and they skate way gnarlier shit.

[Kombuch-A-Holic]

It clearly sounds like forcing looseness is an issue for your ability to actually do tricks. Leave things stable and learn to lean more. Unless you're skating really tight transition or constricted street spots there isn't any reason you need some specific level of looseness.

Just look at how tight Reynolds rides his trucks. It's not a shameful thing. Even local transition skaters I've met ride much tighter than your average Slap poster and they skate way gnarlier shit.

For sure! I'll go back and watch. Watching the Huf video again right now and everyone's boards are solid and stable.

[Frank and Fred]

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Been trying to not spend money and do what I can with the gear I already own. Stage 11 hangers work good on Ace classic baseplates but stage 7 hangers work even better. Had a really good session today on this. Fully dialed in and everything.

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Two 1/8" risers on that set up?

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2 Real 3-ply risers and then two stacked Ace 1/16" shock pads. So 3/8" total. Sounds nuts but on a board with pretty much zero concave it just feel like a normal concave board with 1/4" risers. I'm skating transition and curbs and more into the surf feel of skating so I'm used to being high off the ground and have no issues with stability or feeling "tippy".

Doesn't sound nuts to me. I'm glad to see someone not afraid of risers. Real do 5 ply risers also. I'm sure you knew that.

[LebowskisRug]

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It clearly sounds like forcing looseness is an issue for your ability to actually do tricks. Leave things stable and learn to lean more. Unless you're skating really tight transition or constricted street spots there isn't any reason you need some specific level of looseness.

Just look at how tight Reynolds rides his trucks. It's not a shameful thing. Even local transition skaters I've met ride much tighter than your average Slap poster and they skate way gnarlier shit.

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For sure! I'll go back and watch. Watching the Huf video again right now and everyone's boards are solid and stable.

I saw Nik Stain post his board and his rear truck had 3-4 threads showing. Tom Knox did too somewhat recently and he had threads showing with the Indy yellow bushings.

[manysnakes]

I’ve noted this before, but I think the average pro is likely skating so much faster than us schmucks that their inertia more than compensates for their tighter trucks.