Gear madness support thread

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@Sedition @Mbrimson88

Well, that settles that. Thank you

When the Doctors speak, you’d be a damned fool not to listen

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@Sedition @Mbrimson88

I done listened.

Enjoy!

[hiljentaa]

I've skated the same shape on Thunder 147, Venture 5.2 lo and Venture  V-Light 5.2 hi back and forth over the past few weeks. 147 and V-Light hi on same wheels, lo on basically same wheel but a size down.

I'm shameful in all this fucking about. I'm not even good at skateboarding, but I do enjoy it a bunch.

5.2 los look so sick, and I wish I could channel some energy from some of the greats that looked so good on em. But alas, the wheelbite even with 51s and tightened up trucks is too vicious for me.

147s are newest for me. Standards, but I changed out the black washers and nuts for silver. They turn more/better than the 5.2 lo obviously, but I find em naturally tighter than other trucks I've ridden (Venture/Indy). If you are proper and sit on top of all yr nose/tailslides, the short baseplate shouldn't be an issue. For me, it is with 99a wheels and metal-edge skatepark ledges sometimes. I should just do my tricks better.

The 5.2 V-Light hi are my favorite trucks after all this experimentation. Definitely make yr nose and tail feel/effectively shorter and tightening the front two nuts is annoying as fuck (just started taking the hangers off when setting up a new board lmao)

I broke my popping leg real bad as a child and I'd notice with Indy I'd sometimes veer a bit right before popping probably due to my foot being a lil crooked from that. You can ride Ventures pretty loose while still being really stable for the pop. Yes they don't turn as loosely goosey as Indy or even Thunder, but I feel like I land more tricks on Ventures.

But I realized that I've never skated the 5.2 hi on cast baseplates......

[mstuntbless]

I have the way out of madness if you would like some pointers. But if you enjoy the swapping do your thing!

[Idk]

How do I clean my grip if I don’t have grip gum?

[moonordie]

How do I clean my grip if I don’t have grip gum?

Hit it with an open palm and then use a broom.

[Xen]

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Im on the 8.75 ah eagle right now and want to go down a little in width as the setup is pretty hefty.

Problem is that i like some extra length as im tall.

Anyone got recommendations for longer 8.5 decks with 14.5+ wb?

The 8.38 ah eagle dims seems doable for me, but will it fit indy 159 trucks?

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8.38 with 159 sounds like a nightmare to me.

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Im on the 8.75 ah eagle right now and want to go down a little in width as the setup is pretty hefty.

Problem is that i like some extra length as im tall.

Anyone got recommendations for longer 8.5 decks with 14.5+ wb?

The 8.38 ah eagle dims seems doable for me, but will it fit indy 159 trucks?

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8.38 with 159 sounds like a nightmare to me.

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I have heard the 8.38 (green) eagle measures around 8.5 so it might be a little more doable than the standard 8.38 if you like hot rodding.

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Im on the 8.75 ah eagle right now and want to go down a little in width as the setup is pretty hefty.

Problem is that i like some extra length as im tall.

Anyone got recommendations for longer 8.5 decks with 14.5+ wb?

The 8.38 ah eagle dims seems doable for me, but will it fit indy 159 trucks?

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8.38 with 159 sounds like a nightmare to me.

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I have heard the 8.38 (green) eagle measures around 8.5 so it might be a little more doable than the standard 8.38 if you like hot rodding.

hewitt skated the 8.38 eagle with 159s.


on an entirely different plane of skateboard existence, i skated an 8.38 generic generator shape, on 6.1 ventures, and loved it. i really liked the stability, and pop. eventually i stopped with the 6.1s, because first and foremost, i am a very old baby, and the setup was too heavy for the skating that i do the most(bad/slow flatground flip trick attempts), this big setup didn’t make the most sense. but, for hills, and ollie/nollie stuff, the setup was great.

[Kevve]

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 If you know, what other BBS brands have (a) 8.5 / 14.5 WB, (2) mellow kicks, (3) shape similar to the 8.5 Black Label?

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* As per Darkpools, Fakie nollie and others, this was my take.


Yeah there sure are lots in that same or very similar shape of the 8.5 x 32.3 given or take a bit in each measurement per different board company, 14.5 wb with 7 or so nose and 6.7 or so tail.  Quite a lot even have the length listed as 32 even, but they all line up the same to me.


The most annoying thing is with actually finding a mellow board, given they have multiples per press and different presses, some steeper some more mellow, because even some of the same board that I have bought, I can sort them into the steeper ones I usually sell right away, the middle range I may or may not skate or the mellow boards, which I squirrel away like they are the last of those kind on earth.

Examples of this include older stock I have from Passport, Baker, Birdhouse, Deathwish, Element (before they changed) and a few others, especially Element though, which I always blank but they are just so comfrotable for me.

Boards from Loser Machine, Isle, Alltimers, Killing Floor, some Magenta, some Passport and some Generator blanks were all middle of the road.

Boards more recently from Black Label, Cash Only, some Magenta, some Passport and a few Generator boards for skate shops / blanks were all too steep for me to be comfortable on, but others I know have loved them and they held up well.



I don't want to just list the woodshop thread with the BBS and highlight all the boards there that I have that are that shape, or at least were, because some have changed now, others seem to have gone with shorter versions, etc.

There sure are a lot from that list though.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729103#msg3729103


Others I think are the same from looking online but I have not seen in person include 151, ATM, Frog, Sci Fi (Generator sticker on it) but also all the shop boards that use Generator for their wood, as well as those smaller brands that seem to slip under the radar.

Shop board post here too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729105#msg3729105


If you can make it in somewhere to look at or stand on a lot of boards, all good and well, but if you can't for whatever reason, it is often way more of a roll of the dice to try to find the good boards that are most comfortable.  I don't think anyone specifically has mellow boards from that list, or at least not any that will compare to DLX with a IV stamp.

Thanks bud! Gonna do some digging and see what i can find here

[Rick Trapasso]

Im on the 8.75 ah eagle right now and want to go down a little in width as the setup is pretty hefty.

Problem is that i like some extra length as im tall.

Anyone got recommendations for longer 8.5 decks with 14.5+ wb?

The 8.38 ah eagle dims seems doable for me, but will it fit indy 159 trucks?

I love the DLX 8.38 14.5wb shape on 149s

[munchbox]

Im on the 8.75 ah eagle right now and want to go down a little in width as the setup is pretty hefty.

Problem is that i like some extra length as im tall.

Anyone got recommendations for longer 8.5 decks with 14.5+ wb?

The 8.38 ah eagle dims seems doable for me, but will it fit indy 159 trucks?

chandler burton shapes from there skateboards
almost always 8.5 and range from 32.5-32.625 long
and wheelbases between 14.5-14.69
should fit 159s perfectly imo

[Prostate Exam]

I just switched from Ace Classic 66s to Indy 215s on my Mutant shape and I love them.
The grind is a lot better and the more truck the better. But somehow I fell like my BS Nosepicks got a lot worse. I freaked out the other day cause I couldn't do them anymore on the big quarter at my local and now it is stuck in my head, that I might should switch back to Aces to relearn Nosepicks.
It is so weird how you head can dictate certain shit

[fakie nollie]

I have 4 pairs of LRAB’s right now. 3 VM001’s and a VM002. Two on ice for skating, one I’m currently skating and one as a chiller. I really hope I don’t wake up and hate this shoe one morning.

[Sedition]

My madness has been dormant for a long time. It's kind of...fluttering...right now. I'm toying with grabbing one of those 8.38/14.38 Black Label decks...mostly out of curiosity. 14.38 is my jam, but I normally don't like (a) steepness of Label kicks (Label kicks can be a tad long, too), and (b) "in-between" sizes (e.g. 8.1, 8.3, 8.4, 8.6, etc.).

[CarcassToss]

Aren't Label decks the generic BBS decks? My shop always has them and Uma, Alltimers, and a few other brands on the sale rack so I've skated a ton of them and the 8.5 shape.

DLX and Sci-Fi have an 8.5x14.38 shape but the nose is quite long.

[Sedition]

Aren't Label decks the generic BBS decks? My shop always has them and Uma, Alltimers, and a few other brands on the sale rack so I've skated a ton of them and the 8.5 shape.

DLX and Sci-Fi have an 8.5x14.38 shape but the nose is quite long.

Label is BBS, but their kicks are always on the steep side. DLX does have that 8.5/14.38, but per that other thread they are not as easy to come by on a regular basis, plus I really dislike the nose/tail shape on that DLX deck...too roundy-pointy for me. The Label 8.25/14.25 and 8.5/14.5 have the exact shape I love (same as DLX 8.25/14.38, and DLX 8.75/14.62). If I get it, hoping the 8.38 is also their "standard cut," which I love.

[Mbrimson88]

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Aren't Label decks the generic BBS decks? My shop always has them and Uma, Alltimers, and a few other brands on the sale rack so I've skated a ton of them and the 8.5 shape.

DLX and Sci-Fi have an 8.5x14.38 shape but the nose is quite long.

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Label is BBS, but their kicks are always on the steep side. DLX does have that 8.5/14.38, but per that other thread they are not as easy to come by on a regular basis, plus I really dislike the nose/tail shape on that DLX deck...too roundy-pointy for me. The Label 8.25/14.25 and 8.5/14.5 have the exact shape I love (same as DLX 8.25/14.38, and DLX 8.75/14.62). If I get it, hoping the 8.38 is also their "standard cut," which I love.

The Omar 8.38 board was always a little different - got one here, longer than others, so definitely not a standard BBS / Generator shape.

I see some of the other bigger boards are also different, eg the 9 has a 14.5 wb, which I am yet to see, but keen to try, but not if they are still super steep / extra concave like the others I got recently in the 8.5 x 32.3 with 14.5 wb.   To note, their older boards I bought a while back have a way more normal concave and feel to them, so I wonder if something changed, or they got whatever was on offer, or specifically requested steeper boards.


https://www.blacklabelskates.com/


Also noticed that a lot of the team boards all come in multiple sizes now as well, some pro boards too, eg the Omar board with the 8.38 and a couple of others:


https://www.blacklabelskates.com/product/omar-hassan-s-o-s-8-38-8-625-9-0


Listed as 8.38” x 32.5” 14.38” wheelbase, but I don't think it was quite that long.

[Sedition]

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Aren't Label decks the generic BBS decks? My shop always has them and Uma, Alltimers, and a few other brands on the sale rack so I've skated a ton of them and the 8.5 shape.

DLX and Sci-Fi have an 8.5x14.38 shape but the nose is quite long.

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Label is BBS, but their kicks are always on the steep side. DLX does have that 8.5/14.38, but per that other thread they are not as easy to come by on a regular basis, plus I really dislike the nose/tail shape on that DLX deck...too roundy-pointy for me. The Label 8.25/14.25 and 8.5/14.5 have the exact shape I love (same as DLX 8.25/14.38, and DLX 8.75/14.62). If I get it, hoping the 8.38 is also their "standard cut," which I love.

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The Omar 8.38 board was always a little different - got one here, longer than others, so definitely not a standard BBS / Generator shape.

I see some of the other bigger boards are also different, eg the 9 has a 14.5 wb, which I am yet to see, but keen to try, but not if they are still super steep / extra concave like the others I got recently in the 8.5 x 32.3 with 14.5 wb.   To note, their older boards I bought a while back have a way more normal concave and feel to them, so I wonder if something changed, or they got whatever was on offer, or specifically requested steeper boards.


https://www.blacklabelskates.com/


Also noticed that a lot of the team boards all come in multiple sizes now as well, some pro boards too, eg the Omar board with the 8.38 and a couple of others:


https://www.blacklabelskates.com/product/omar-hassan-s-o-s-8-38-8-625-9-0


Listed as 8.38” x 32.5” 14.38” wheelbase, but I don't think it was quite that long.

Yeah, I've noticed the 8.38 Label is always listed as longer than their other (popsicle) decks. I also noticed they have some 8.75" listed as 14.5, and some as 14.75. I've wondered if that is accurate, or a typo and they are all 14.75. They otherwise seem to follow the pattern of 8.25/14.25, 8.38/14.38, 8.5/14.5, 8.62/14.62, 8.75/14.75.

[Mbrimson88]

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Aren't Label decks the generic BBS decks? My shop always has them and Uma, Alltimers, and a few other brands on the sale rack so I've skated a ton of them and the 8.5 shape.

DLX and Sci-Fi have an 8.5x14.38 shape but the nose is quite long.

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Label is BBS, but their kicks are always on the steep side. DLX does have that 8.5/14.38, but per that other thread they are not as easy to come by on a regular basis, plus I really dislike the nose/tail shape on that DLX deck...too roundy-pointy for me. The Label 8.25/14.25 and 8.5/14.5 have the exact shape I love (same as DLX 8.25/14.38, and DLX 8.75/14.62). If I get it, hoping the 8.38 is also their "standard cut," which I love.

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The Omar 8.38 board was always a little different - got one here, longer than others, so definitely not a standard BBS / Generator shape.

I see some of the other bigger boards are also different, eg the 9 has a 14.5 wb, which I am yet to see, but keen to try, but not if they are still super steep / extra concave like the others I got recently in the 8.5 x 32.3 with 14.5 wb.   To note, their older boards I bought a while back have a way more normal concave and feel to them, so I wonder if something changed, or they got whatever was on offer, or specifically requested steeper boards.


https://www.blacklabelskates.com/


Also noticed that a lot of the team boards all come in multiple sizes now as well, some pro boards too, eg the Omar board with the 8.38 and a couple of others:


https://www.blacklabelskates.com/product/omar-hassan-s-o-s-8-38-8-625-9-0


Listed as 8.38” x 32.5” 14.38” wheelbase, but I don't think it was quite that long.

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Yeah, I've noticed the 8.38 Label is always listed as longer than their other (popsicle) decks. I also noticed they have some 8.75" listed as 14.5, and some as 14.75. I've wondered if that is accurate, or a typo and they are all 14.75. They otherwise seem to follow the pattern of 8.25/14.25, 8.38/14.38, 8.5/14.5, 8.62/14.62, 8.75/14.75.

I have older Label boards that are bigger and longer, so at some point, the dimensions changed so they shortened the bigger boards down to a more common 14.5 wb.  Someone had one and said it definitely was 14.5 and not 14.75 or so as per one I have.

I still feel like I need to see the boards in person though, which is why I haven't bought any more, as no one really has them locally here.

[Sedition]

...as no one really has them locally here.

"Never bought. Never sold."

I think that not only applies to Lucero's bid'ness model (re "selling out"), but also to their market demand. LOL. Label is indeed the "smallest big company." Not many places carry them, and I hardly ever see them in the wild...which is a sham because they are a rad company, and always have been.

[moonordie]

Madness hit. Want Thunders badly, I've been on Ace for like 2 years but you know the drill...
Also it doesn't help that I have a good discount on them.

[rikki]

Madness hit. Want Thunders badly, I've been on Ace for like 2 years but you know the drill...
Also it doesn't help that I have a good discount on them.

Switch to Ventures, stay awake, stop the madness.

[Sedition]

Madness hit. Want Thunders badly, I've been on Ace for like 2 years but you know the drill...
Also it doesn't help that I have a good discount on them.

Don’t do it. Aces turn. Thunders don’t. Plus, that Thunder baseplate thing.

[rikki]

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Madness hit. Want Thunders badly, I've been on Ace for like 2 years but you know the drill...
Also it doesn't help that I have a good discount on them.

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Don’t do it. Aces turn. Thunders don’t. Plus, that Thunder baseplate thing.

Having ridden Destructo, Thunder, Indy, Ace and Venture in the recent years I can easily say that Thunders are the worst of the lot.

[moonordie]

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Madness hit. Want Thunders badly, I've been on Ace for like 2 years but you know the drill...
Also it doesn't help that I have a good discount on them.

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Switch to Ventures, stay awake, stop the madness.

Ventures are definitely not for me, got a set months ago and God I hated them.

[JM]

Madness hit. Want Thunders badly, I've been on Ace for like 2 years but you know the drill...
Also it doesn't help that I have a good discount on them.

Just buy them. Buy the thunders on the discount and find out if you hate them or not.

Then you won’t live your life with regret and think to yourself as you’re snuggled in bed in 50 years, unable to skate anymore, “I really wish I took that one chance to ride Thunders.”

Then if you hate them, you can stoke out some kid at the skatepark on the worst trucks you’ve ever seen in your life.

[Sedition]

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Madness hit. Want Thunders badly, I've been on Ace for like 2 years but you know the drill...
Also it doesn't help that I have a good discount on them.

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Just buy them. Buy the thunders on the discount and find out if you hate them or not.

Then you won’t live your life with regret and think to yourself as you’re snuggled in bed in 50 years, unable to skate anymore, “I really wish I took that one chance to ride Thunders.”

Then if you hate them, you can stoke out some kid at the skatepark on the worst trucks you’ve ever seen in your life.

^ He does make good points.

[moonordie]

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Madness hit. Want Thunders badly, I've been on Ace for like 2 years but you know the drill...
Also it doesn't help that I have a good discount on them.

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Just buy them. Buy the thunders on the discount and find out if you hate them or not.

Then you won’t live your life with regret and think to yourself as you’re snuggled in bed in 50 years, unable to skate anymore, “I really wish I took that one chance to ride Thunders.”

Then if you hate them, you can stoke out some kid at the skatepark on the worst trucks you’ve ever seen in your life.

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^ He does make good points.

Agree but no way in hell I'm giving away crap. With that being said I already ordered and worst case scenario I can sell them to a homie for a good price.

[munchbox]

late stage crapitalism

[Creachteach]

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Madness hit. Want Thunders badly, I've been on Ace for like 2 years but you know the drill...
Also it doesn't help that I have a good discount on them.

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Just buy them. Buy the thunders on the discount and find out if you hate them or not.

Then you won’t live your life with regret and think to yourself as you’re snuggled in bed in 50 years, unable to skate anymore, “I really wish I took that one chance to ride Thunders.”

Then if you hate them, you can stoke out some kid at the skatepark on the worst trucks you’ve ever seen in your life.

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^ He does make good points.

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Agree but no way in hell I'm giving away crap. With that being said I already ordered and worst case scenario I can sell them to a homie for a good price.

I just did the same as you, just with Ventures as i already did try out some thunders.

There’s so much product I haven’t tried but am very curious about. It’s probably highly likely hindering any progress that I have 3 somewhat different boards set up, with every dimension being different.