Ace trucks

[RottenToTheCore]

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Gifted Hater just dropped his Ace AF1 review. Go crazy

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i agree with him that aces make skating harder but it does feel good when you land tricks

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Yea I agree with his assessment mostly. Wonder who he is on here? He's obviously on here, multiple SLAP references.

He’s said he doesn’t have a slap account before

[rosemaryBB]

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Gifted Hater just dropped his Ace AF1 review. Go crazy

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i agree with him that aces make skating harder but it does feel good when you land tricks

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Yea I agree with his assessment mostly. Wonder who he is on here? He's obviously on here, multiple SLAP references.

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He’s said he doesn’t have a slap account before

To be fair though, I would also lie about having a Slap account if pressed

[manysnakes]

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Gifted Hater just dropped his Ace AF1 review. Go crazy

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i agree with him that aces make skating harder but it does feel good when you land tricks

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Yea I agree with his assessment mostly. Wonder who he is on here? He's obviously on here, multiple SLAP references.

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He’s said he doesn’t have a slap account before

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To be fair though, I would also lie about having a Slap account if pressed

People post selfies here and I don’t even want to reveal what region of the United States I’m from

[IpathCats]

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Gifted Hater just dropped his Ace AF1 review. Go crazy

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i agree with him that aces make skating harder but it does feel good when you land tricks

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Yea I agree with his assessment mostly. Wonder who he is on here? He's obviously on here, multiple SLAP references.

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He’s said he doesn’t have a slap account before

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To be fair though, I would also lie about having a Slap account if pressed

I refuse to believe he's not a regular poster on here.

[kevs.clips]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but has anyone popped an inverted kingpin into their AF1s? Heard through Insta that they’re a pain in the ass to get out. Wanna try it but worried I’m just gonna bash away at the baseplate to no avail.

[pizzafliptofakie]

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

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If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

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Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

[IpathCats]

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

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If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

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Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

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I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

What's the issue?

[Ok]

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

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If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

[close]

Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

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I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

With classics I don’t adjust.
Quit trying to rip.
For me, the bushings firm up in about a week. Maybe rock back and forth on the board on your carpet to speed it up. Can’t rush it tho. Turn is worth it.
Thunders kinda the oppo for me in that first day they skate great

[pizzafliptofakie]

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

[close]

If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

[close]

Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

[close]

I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

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What's the issue?

They're just not breaking in. I can barely turn and they feel so tight. I know new trucks take time but I haven't felt this awkward on a skateboard since I was a kid.

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

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If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

[close]

Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

[close]

I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

[close]

With classics I don’t adjust.
Quit trying to rip.
For me, the bushings firm up in about a week. Maybe rock back and forth on the board on your carpet to speed it up. Can’t rush it tho. Turn is worth it.
Thunders kinda the oppo for me in that first day they skate great

Alright, I'll give them a week before I do anything. It also probably doesn't help that it's gotten pretty cold here but I figure I should suffer through this now before indoor park season starts.

[IpathCats]

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

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If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

[close]

Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

[close]

I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

[close]

What's the issue?

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They're just not breaking in. I can barely turn and they feel so tight. I know new trucks take time but I haven't felt this awkward on a skateboard since I was a kid.

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

[close]

If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

[close]

Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

[close]

I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

[close]

With classics I don’t adjust.
Quit trying to rip.
For me, the bushings firm up in about a week. Maybe rock back and forth on the board on your carpet to speed it up. Can’t rush it tho. Turn is worth it.
Thunders kinda the oppo for me in that first day they skate great

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Alright, I'll give them a week before I do anything. It also probably doesn't help that it's gotten pretty cold here but I figure I should suffer through this now before indoor park season starts.

They deff get harder in the cold, just loosen them as much as you can without the nut falling off. rocking back and forth isnt a bad idea. Do you ride your shit SUPER loose?

[pizzafliptofakie]

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

[close]

If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

[close]

Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

[close]

I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

[close]

What's the issue?

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They're just not breaking in. I can barely turn and they feel so tight. I know new trucks take time but I haven't felt this awkward on a skateboard since I was a kid.

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

[close]

If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

[close]

Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

[close]

I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

[close]

With classics I don’t adjust.
Quit trying to rip.
For me, the bushings firm up in about a week. Maybe rock back and forth on the board on your carpet to speed it up. Can’t rush it tho. Turn is worth it.
Thunders kinda the oppo for me in that first day they skate great

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Alright, I'll give them a week before I do anything. It also probably doesn't help that it's gotten pretty cold here but I figure I should suffer through this now before indoor park season starts.

[close]

They deff get harder in the cold, just loosen them as much as you can without the nut falling off. rocking back and forth isnt a bad idea. Do you ride your shit SUPER loose?

Not Daewon loose or anything, but fairly. The trucks I just retired had a slight wiggle to them but that was more because they're old than a conscious decision. I stepped on someone else's board with some weathered Ace trucks and they were plenty loose yet stable so I know my time's coming. But woof, I wish there was a shortcut lol.

[IpathCats]

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

[close]

If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

[close]

Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

[close]

I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

[close]

What's the issue?

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They're just not breaking in. I can barely turn and they feel so tight. I know new trucks take time but I haven't felt this awkward on a skateboard since I was a kid.

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

[close]

If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

[close]

Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

[close]

I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

[close]

With classics I don’t adjust.
Quit trying to rip.
For me, the bushings firm up in about a week. Maybe rock back and forth on the board on your carpet to speed it up. Can’t rush it tho. Turn is worth it.
Thunders kinda the oppo for me in that first day they skate great

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Alright, I'll give them a week before I do anything. It also probably doesn't help that it's gotten pretty cold here but I figure I should suffer through this now before indoor park season starts.

[close]

They deff get harder in the cold, just loosen them as much as you can without the nut falling off. rocking back and forth isnt a bad idea. Do you ride your shit SUPER loose?

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Not Daewon loose or anything, but fairly. The trucks I just retired had a slight wiggle to them but that was more because they're old than a conscious decision. I stepped on someone else's board with some weathered Ace trucks and they were plenty loose yet stable so I know my time's coming. But woof, I wish there was a shortcut lol.

I feel you, just loosen them as much as you safely can, and let it rock. the cold is slowing things down, but it will happen.

[Roisto]

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

[close]

If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

[close]

Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

[close]

I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

[close]

What's the issue?

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They're just not breaking in. I can barely turn and they feel so tight. I know new trucks take time but I haven't felt this awkward on a skateboard since I was a kid.

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

[close]

If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

[close]

Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

[close]

I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

[close]

With classics I don’t adjust.
Quit trying to rip.
For me, the bushings firm up in about a week. Maybe rock back and forth on the board on your carpet to speed it up. Can’t rush it tho. Turn is worth it.
Thunders kinda the oppo for me in that first day they skate great

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Alright, I'll give them a week before I do anything. It also probably doesn't help that it's gotten pretty cold here but I figure I should suffer through this now before indoor park season starts.

[close]

They deff get harder in the cold, just loosen them as much as you can without the nut falling off. rocking back and forth isnt a bad idea. Do you ride your shit SUPER loose?

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Not Daewon loose or anything, but fairly. The trucks I just retired had a slight wiggle to them but that was more because they're old than a conscious decision. I stepped on someone else's board with some weathered Ace trucks and they were plenty loose yet stable so I know my time's coming. But woof, I wish there was a shortcut lol.

There is a shortcut and it’s easy. Change those stock washers to Indy washers for example. The Ace classic washers are fucking trash. They’re thicker than most others and are too small otherwise too. They restrict the turn. It’s no good. I usually can’t deal with the break in and just change the washers instead and the trucks are good to go with no tinkering needed until the pivot cups are done.

[STAH]

has anyone noticed that the Ace af1 has a smaller than normal hangar? I have the 55's (8.5), the trucks fit on my board more like an Indy 144 (8.25). I even measured the hangars and they measured the same as an Indy 144 hangar.   

[Frank and Fred]

You have to measure the coned bit of the hangers also.

[STAH]

You have to measure the coned bit of the hangers also.

yeah I did, with calipers. it measured 147mm. I just put 2 washers on the inside of each wheel to compensate.

[Frank and Fred]

Just measured mine. Yep, you are right. Still wider than Classic 44s though.

[Mbrimson88]

Do any of you find the AF1 also have longer axles like the Classics?

I can put four washers on a set of Classic 44s and still have play with the nut completely on, so although they are still not quite the same as 149s they are very close.

[goodatmeth]

has anyone noticed that the Ace af1 has a smaller than normal hangar? I have the 55's (8.5), the trucks fit on my board more like an Indy 144 (8.25). I even measured the hangars and they measured the same as an Indy 144 hangar.

Yes. My AF1 44s are basically an 8inch truck. 140mm

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

That would explain why my AF1 55s aren’t hotrod-ing on a 8.38 deck!

[munchbox]

af1 66s might be the 8.75 aces youve all been waiting for

[bombsaway86]

af1 66s might be the 8.75 aces youve all been waiting for

I like them best with an 8.75

[pizzafliptofakie]

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After 10+ years of only skating Thunders, I took the plunge and picked up a pair of Ace Classic 44s. Pretty excited to see how they feel after work. I'm trying to stick with the stock bushings before I micromanage anything cuz I was on Bones Mediums for awhile.

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If you end up changing the bushings eventually, make sure you keep the same overall height as the stock bottom bushing and washer. Classics are prone to bending, and changing the geometry will speed that up.

[close]

Anyways, the longer you are able to refrain from adjusting your classics, the better.

[close]

I'm a couple sessions in on these with no adjustments and I gotta be honest, I'm having a really rough time. How long did you wait to tinker with yours, if at all?

Alright, I'm a week in and they still don't feel good. I even went against people's advice and loosened them and they just don't feel that responsive. A buddy of mine showed up with a brand new set of 55 Classics and his felt better day one then mine do now. (I'm riding 44 Classics on an 8.38 board.)


I dunno if his wider truck just felt better or if my stock bushings won't adjust to the mild cold but I'm ready to start tinkering and/or giving up on these.

[Frank and Fred]

af1 66s might be the 8.75 aces youve all been waiting for

Alas, my AF1 66s are the same size as my Classic 55s.

[Post A Fit Fuccboi]

Re: pivot cup destruction
This guy demonstrates how most traditional kingpin trucks destroy pivots because of pivot pin/pivot angle mismatch

https://changingangles.com/2021/05/05/tkp-trucks-history-and-quirks/

[manysnakes]

Re: pivot cup destruction
This guy demonstrates how all traditional kingpin trucks destroy pivots because of pivot angle-kingpin angle mismatch

https://changingangles.com/2021/05/05/tkp-trucks-history-and-quirks/

Sounds like you need some Caliber IIIs

[kenjiro]

I’ve destroyed all my pivot cups on trucks except aces. slappy crooks fucks em up.

[Post A Fit Fuccboi]

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Re: pivot cup destruction
This guy demonstrates how all traditional kingpin trucks destroy pivots because of pivot angle-kingpin angle mismatch

https://changingangles.com/2021/05/05/tkp-trucks-history-and-quirks/

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Sounds like you need some Caliber IIIs

I edited my post a bit. He does show some TKP designs that are more aligned.

I also misworded--it's the pivot pin and pivot angle mismatch that contributes to the pivot cup thing. Kingpin angle is something he explores lower in the page. FWIW I love aces and bennetts and indies even though they're "wrong"

[Bigwheelbite]

That would explain why my AF1 55s aren’t hotrod-ing on a 8.38 deck!

No 8.5 axle truck would anyway.

Skated both Indy & thunder 149’s and AF1 55’s on 8.25 which don’t hot rod let alone 8.38. They sit perfectly flush…

[Chronic85]

Yo.

Im riding ACE Trucks for a while now and i was pretty happy with the Classics and starting to like the new AF1s too.

For whatever reason i got a problem with both versions now...

The axle seems to be moving. I dont know how to explain it properly since english is not my native language but i'll try.
Some weeks ago i noticed my wheels would somehow get stuck from time to time.
In between Sessions i got the feeling my setup slowed down somehow. Then i noticed that one wheel was sitting very tight and wasnt moving at all anymore.
I usually give them some space to wiggle so i was very confused on how this was happening. Dunno if the Axle was bent already or moving in the hanger.

This happened on a set of Classics.

Bought some brand new Classics. Came in already bent since deck had hell of a ghost turn even after broken in.

Bought another set of AF1s. Thought i was fine for now, but again wheels are getting stuck mid session from time to time.
I also noticed that nearly every trucks axle i bought since this shit is happening to me is so fucking short..
The axle nut sits barely flush on the axle and i dont got any extra washers on it. Only the two coming with the trucks.
This tilts me even more than the stuck wheels cause it adds up to the problem since there is even less space for the wheel.

Drives me crazy...

Did i just bought several bad QC trucks? Or am i missing something?