Spitfire formula four

[Mbrimson88]

And here if you are in Canada

[Croquet temper]

I just got some of the Cardiel F4 Deep Tabs in 53. New shape I hadn't heard of yet on CCS, impulse buy.

[Mbrimson88]

I just got some of the Cardiel F4 Deep Tabs in 53. New shape I hadn't heard of yet on CCS, impulse buy.

Deep cuts are the graphic name, tablet is the shape, which has been around for a while but a good wheel all the same!!!

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall20/sf-2020-d4-dt-02.jpg

[listentoaheartbeat]

Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.

[Mbrimson88]

Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.

They are such different formulas of wheels, but smooth concrete is less likely going to be slippery on 99s, but some others say 101 might be a bit more like SPF wheels in general.  I just skated some new 60mm SPF wheels on someone's board on the ramp the other day and thought they felt more grippy than I remember, but I am much more of a Formula Four 99 duro guy, the right amount of stick and slide for me anyway.

[listentoaheartbeat]

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Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.

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They are such different formulas of wheels, but smooth concrete is less likely going to be slippery on 99s, but some others say 101 might be a bit more like SPF wheels in general.  I just skated some new 60mm SPF wheels on someone's board on the ramp the other day and thought they felt more grippy than I remember, but I am much more of a Formula Four 99 duro guy, the right amount of stick and slide for me anyway.

Thanks, I'll give the 99A ones a shot!

[Croquet temper]

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I just got some of the Cardiel F4 Deep Tabs in 53. New shape I hadn't heard of yet on CCS, impulse buy.

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Deep cuts are the graphic name, tablet is the shape, which has been around for a while but a good wheel all the same!!!

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall20/sf-2020-d4-dt-02.jpg

I knew I couldn't go wrong.

[jay_nev]

[Freelancevagrant]

Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.

99a is my go to. 101’s are just too slick for me when I skate transition, but that’s just me.

Personally, I’d say go for 99a conical fulls.

[Surf The Earth]

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Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.

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99a is my go to. 101’s are just too slick for me when I skate transition, but that’s just me.

Personally, I’d say go for 99a conical fulls.

I pretty much only skate transition and 99du at a smooth skatepark is a dream! conical full or the og classic now that its f4, would both be we the way to go. I prefer Conical Full

[Mbrimson88]

The second pic - streamlined (pricepoint looking) tablets too, very interesting!!!

I prefer that graphic over most of the other ones anyway, simple and the inner circle area with the info doesn't really get worn too.

[jay_nev]

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The second pic - streamlined (pricepoint looking) tablets too, very interesting!!!

I prefer that graphic over most of the other ones anyway, simple and the inner circle area with the info doesn't really get worn too.

yeah thought that was interesting. kind of look like those price point joints

[fulfillthedream]

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The second pic - streamlined (pricepoint looking) tablets too, very interesting!!!

I prefer that graphic over most of the other ones anyway, simple and the inner circle area with the info doesn't really get worn too.

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yeah thought that was interesting. kind of look like those price point joints

damn those do look fresh... hahah  i gotta fresh set of classics im tempted to try to remove the graphic

[listentoaheartbeat]

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Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.

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99a is my go to. 101’s are just too slick for me when I skate transition, but that’s just me.

Personally, I’d say go for 99a conical fulls.

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I pretty much only skate transition and 99du at a smooth skatepark is a dream! conical full or the og classic now that its f4, would both be we the way to go. I prefer Conical Full

Cool, thanks to both of you. Now fully set on trying these, will be interesting how they perform skating street as well.

[Mbrimson88]

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The second pic - streamlined (pricepoint looking) tablets too, very interesting!!!

I prefer that graphic over most of the other ones anyway, simple and the inner circle area with the info doesn't really get worn too.

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yeah thought that was interesting. kind of look like those price point joints

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damn those do look fresh... hahah  i gotta fresh set of classics im tempted to try to remove the graphic

Super easy if you own an angle grinder.  Put the complete on its back or side, start the grinder and gently use the flat part of the blade on the wheel, so the wheel and the blade spin, which in turn takes off the graphic in about two seconds, each wheel, down to whatever part you want.

The other option is have the graphic out on the complete, hold the board by the rail edge and drag one side with both the wheels on an angle over medium concrete, making the wheels turn but scraping the graphic on the ground, which wears away the outer part of the graphic but leaves the inner part. It takes longer, but you don't need anything besides your board and concrete.

I have done this many times and both will work easily enough.


It makes this:



Look like this:

[Mbrimson88]

I always liked the small ring graphic on the inside of the lock ins more than the outside graphic too, but that is just me and I wouldn't ride them the other way round, even though people have set them up that way and it works well enough.

[Mesteezo]

Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.

84b SPFs are my favorite park wheel, but I don’t like 99a or 101a F4s at the park because they slip out easy. The 97A F4s are fantastic and they grip at the park similarly to the SPFs and still speedy. I’d try out the 97s if I was you

[listentoaheartbeat]

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Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.

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84b SPFs are my favorite park wheel, but I don’t like 99a or 101a F4s at the park because they slip out easy. The 97A F4s are fantastic and they grip at the park similarly to the SPFs and still speedy. I’d try out the 97s if I was you

Time to reconsider, I guess! Maybe I should just stick to SPFs. Can you still comfortably slide tricks on flat with 97A F4s?

[Mesteezo]

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Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.

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84b SPFs are my favorite park wheel, but I don’t like 99a or 101a F4s at the park because they slip out easy. The 97A F4s are fantastic and they grip at the park similarly to the SPFs and still speedy. I’d try out the 97s if I was you

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Time to reconsider, I guess! Maybe I should just stick to SPFs. Can you still comfortably slide tricks on flat with 97A F4s?

Yeah the slide is very controllable like they are on the SPFs, gotta put a smidge more effort into them though since they are softer, but it's really not an issue it's still a hard wheel. They bark really nice too.

[Mbrimson88]

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Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.

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84b SPFs are my favorite park wheel, but I don’t like 99a or 101a F4s at the park because they slip out easy. The 97A F4s are fantastic and they grip at the park similarly to the SPFs and still speedy. I’d try out the 97s if I was you

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Time to reconsider, I guess! Maybe I should just stick to SPFs. Can you still comfortably slide tricks on flat with 97A F4s?

It would be good if there was someone you knew who had some 99s on a board you could try.  I guess it depends when you skate and if there are many or any others around too, because asking a random how their wheels are can be a bit much, let alone asking for a go on their board.

[listentoaheartbeat]

I’d have to put them on my board since my setup is so specific. At that point it’s probably better to just order and try for myself. But this discussion helps to narrow it down. I am tempted to try the 97As since people tell me softer wheels help them deal with the shitty ground we have all over the place here in Berlin.

[Ilya Oblomov]

I’d have to put them on my board since my setup is so specific. At that point it’s probably better to just order and try for myself. But this discussion helps to narrow it down. I am tempted to try the 97As since people tell me softer wheels help them deal with the shitty ground we have all over the place here in Berlin.

What's so specific about your setup?

[listentoaheartbeat]

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I’d have to put them on my board since my setup is so specific. At that point it’s probably better to just order and try for myself. But this discussion helps to narrow it down. I am tempted to try the 97As since people tell me softer wheels help them deal with the shitty ground we have all over the place here in Berlin.

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What's so specific about your setup?

I am 6'5'', 233 lbs, US15 feet. My setup reflects this with a 9.8" deck, 169 Indies, hard bushings bolted down. I freak out on the sub 9" decks with loose trucks everyone rides.

[Mbrimson88]

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I’d have to put them on my board since my setup is so specific. At that point it’s probably better to just order and try for myself. But this discussion helps to narrow it down. I am tempted to try the 97As since people tell me softer wheels help them deal with the shitty ground we have all over the place here in Berlin.

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What's so specific about your setup?

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I am 6'5'', 233 lbs, US15 feet. My setup reflects this with a 9.8" deck, 169 Indies, hard bushings bolted down. I freak out on the sub 9" decks with loose trucks everyone rides.

Sounds like a rad ride!!!

[Xen]

https://skateparkoftampa.com/product/86263/Spitfire_Natural_Green_OG_Classic_Formula_Four_99a_Wheels/&CID=2001

52mm

SPITFIRE OG CLASSIC FORMULA FOUR 99A WHEELS

[BL0B]

https://www.homeskateshop.com/skate/wheels/spitfire/lil-smokies-tablets-pid-19546



those look cool for the big pants sml wheels dudes.

[mbam003]

I'm trying to skate a big slippery indoor wooden bowl and my F4 101s and STF 103As felt like skating on glass. I'm looking at F4 99A Conical, F4 97A Classic and maybe the F1 99A Classic or OG Classic. The F1 is clearly inferior to the F4s, but I'm concerned about the slipperiness of the F4s as even the 99s have shown to be slidey, which I want to avoid completely (while retaining a high durometer for speed). Would the 99A Conical offer better grip than the 97A Classic due to the wider contact patch?

[Mbrimson88]

I'm trying to skate a big slippery indoor wooden bowl and my F4 101s and STF 103As felt like skating on glass. I'm looking at F4 99A Conical, F4 97A Classic and maybe the F1 99A Classic or OG Classic. The F1 is clearly inferior to the F4s, but I'm concerned about the slipperiness of the F4s as even the 99s have shown to be slidey, which I want to avoid completely (while retaining a high durometer for speed). Would the 99A Conical offer better grip than the 97A Classic due to the wider contact patch?

I have some wider softer wheels that work much better in slippery wooden ramps / bowls, including older Spitfires they don't make any more, but there are other wheels out there, mainly around 95 duro that make slippery ramps feel the same as my 99s on raw concrete, without losing speed or performance.  I guess it is down to what you are able to get in the area you are in, but even 97s should not be quite as slippery as what you are currently on.

The other side of it is the surface, as most wood surfaces with decent layers of ply or skatelite or similar clean up really well with a bit of spray and wipe, but if it is more the particle board or something that cannot get wet, then you can't really do much about it.  Those things get very dirty and dusty, which is why they feel so slippery, so a bit of cleaning and even hard wheels should feel more normal on the same surface you were slipping out on before the clean.

We did this at a couple of different indoor parks I have worked at / helped with and cleaning the surface made a huge difference to how slippery it was to ride.

[blueskynoise]

I'm trying to skate a big slippery indoor wooden bowl and my F4 101s and STF 103As felt like skating on glass. I'm looking at F4 99A Conical, F4 97A Classic and maybe the F1 99A Classic or OG Classic. The F1 is clearly inferior to the F4s, but I'm concerned about the slipperiness of the F4s as even the 99s have shown to be slidey, which I want to avoid completely (while retaining a high durometer for speed). Would the 99A Conical offer better grip than the 97A Classic due to the wider contact patch?

I love 99A Conical full for concrete parks/street but the 97a classic is my new favorite indoor wheel. Perfect for wooden ramps. I’m running 54s right now but I have 56s on ice for a potential bowl board.

[kimura]

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I'm trying to skate a big slippery indoor wooden bowl and my F4 101s and STF 103As felt like skating on glass. I'm looking at F4 99A Conical, F4 97A Classic and maybe the F1 99A Classic or OG Classic. The F1 is clearly inferior to the F4s, but I'm concerned about the slipperiness of the F4s as even the 99s have shown to be slidey, which I want to avoid completely (while retaining a high durometer for speed). Would the 99A Conical offer better grip than the 97A Classic due to the wider contact patch?

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I have some wider softer wheels that work much better in slippery wooden ramps / bowls, including older Spitfires they don't make any more, but there are other wheels out there, mainly around 95 duro that make slippery ramps feel the same as my 99s on raw concrete, without losing speed or performance.  I guess it is down to what you are able to get in the area you are in, but even 97s should not be quite as slippery as what you are currently on.

The other side of it is the surface, as most wood surfaces with decent layers of ply or skatelite or similar clean up really well with a bit of spray and wipe, but if it is more the particle board or something that cannot get wet, then you can't really do much about it.  Those things get very dirty and dusty, which is why they feel so slippery, so a bit of cleaning and even hard wheels should feel more normal on the same surface you were slipping out on before the clean.

We did this at a couple of different indoor parks I have worked at / helped with and cleaning the surface made a huge difference to how slippery it was to ride.

I rode my new FF OG Classics 99d 55mm wheels today on wet asphalt and was pleasantly surprised how much grip I had. Obviously not a wooden bowl but figured Id chime in.