Truck set-ups

[manysnakes]

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weird, I have Forged Ti and they feel too light and floaty. Definitely diminished pop feel. I have considered jumping back up to the standard plates.

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Interesting. I've been riding Indy mid cast plates with thunder Ti hangers for the last few months. Feels great, but it's probably against the geneva convention. If there is a God, he's going to smite me.

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weird, I have Forged Ti and they feel too light and floaty. Definitely diminished pop feel. I have considered jumping back up to the standard plates.

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Interesting. I've been riding Indy mid cast plates with thunder Ti hangers for the last few months. Feels great, but it's probably against the geneva convention. If there is a God, he's going to smite me.

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Dr Moreau shit

[BartHarleyJarvis]

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I’m curious after watching part of that Gifted Hater truck video:

For trucks like Indy which have several height and weight options do people really notice that big of a difference? Hollows seem Barry lighter than standards but are in a different tier. And Ti aren’t different than forged hollow, but like 35g lighter a piece than standard hollows but same ranking? Then you have Thunders, which in Team versions weigh the same as Indy Forged Hollow and same WB but people say feel soooo much lighter.

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My own opinion on this matter, and my takeaway from what they were saying in the video too, is that Indy Standards can be a little bit too heavy of a truck, so the Hollows are a great compromise between the weight of the Standards and the price of the Titaniums.

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Hollows are just 13 grams heavier than Titanium Indys (335g to 348g for a 144). Standards jump up by nearly 40g (387g) for the equivalent truck. If I won the lottery or were sponsored, it’d be Ti Indys until I drew my last breath, but for as long as I’m buying trucks at retail it’s Hollows.

I just switched from Indy Forged Hollows to Indy Tis (got a set for christmas) and I haven't noticed a difference. Whenever I need new trucks I'll go back to the hollows.

[j....soy.....]

I’m curious after watching part of that Gifted Hater truck video:

For trucks like Indy which have several height and weight options do people really notice that big of a difference? Hollows seem Barry lighter than standards but are in a different tier. And Ti aren’t different than forged hollow, but like 35g lighter a piece than standard hollows but same ranking? Then you have Thunders, which in Team versions weigh the same as Indy Forged Hollow and same WB but people say feel soooo much lighter.

I think you came to the wrong place for an answer…..it all makes a big difference…

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I’m curious after watching part of that Gifted Hater truck video:

For trucks like Indy which have several height and weight options do people really notice that big of a difference? Hollows seem Barry lighter than standards but are in a different tier. And Ti aren’t different than forged hollow, but like 35g lighter a piece than standard hollows but same ranking? Then you have Thunders, which in Team versions weigh the same as Indy Forged Hollow and same WB but people say feel soooo much lighter.

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I think you came to the wrong place for an answer…..it all makes a big difference…

So fucking true.


But for reals: I only notice a positive difference, on sizes above 8”. 8” trucks I prefer non hollow. On some trucks brands above 8” I appreciate the help with weight. I’m skating 149 cast thunders rn, and it’s fine, whereas for the equivalent size in ace or indy I might want something a bit lighter. I think a lot of it is in my head/also in the geometry of the truck that effects the pop, so some trucks can be heavier, feel lighter. Dunno. Once the trucks are like 9” wide I like the lighter stuff. I haven’t tried indy 149 ti, I’d maybe be into it, but I’m not super into indy so I’m not trying to go in for a $90 experiment.
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[beandemon]

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weird, I have Forged Ti and they feel too light and floaty. Definitely diminished pop feel. I have considered jumping back up to the standard plates.

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Interesting. I've been riding Indy mid cast plates with thunder Ti hangers for the last few months. Feels great, but it's probably against the geneva convention. If there is a God, he's going to smite me.

Unexplained allergic reactions = smote

[j....soy.....]

Do you guys find much difference with a painted truck? 

[realbasedgod112]

Do you guys find much difference with a painted truck?

kind of sticky at first, once you get grooves it all goes away.

apart from that, the main impact of riding painted trucks is getting called a kook

[LebowskisRug]

Put my Ti hangers on my Mid plates cuz I’ve never had actual normal Indy’s. Was a fun first session if anything the pop feel is heavier, but it was very easy to adapt to, and they feel fun. I would fucking laugh until the end of the time I’d the truck I prefer the most is the most basic one I avoided all these years for other random bullshit.

[rocklobster]

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Do you guys find much difference with a painted truck?

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kind of sticky at first, once you get grooves it all goes away.

apart from that, the main impact of riding painted trucks is getting called a kook

Are colored trucks or colored wheels a bigger sin?

[munchbox]

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Do you guys find much difference with a painted truck?

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kind of sticky at first, once you get grooves it all goes away.

apart from that, the main impact of riding painted trucks is getting called a kook

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Are colored trucks or colored wheels a bigger sin?

both can be done tastefully
id rock swirl wheels
paint scraping off trucks kinda bug me
never owned a pair of either

[MxsDx]

LAnyone have thoughts on differences/preferences as between indy forged hollows and standard hollows? Pop feel, stability, pinch etc?

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I liked the feel/sound of cast hollows better. The forged plate sounds less good, feels less good. I can get past it, but if I could pick, the cast plate is better, for me. I think it’s strictly a familiarity thing, not unlike regular wooden boards: in the past I skated pretty well on some p2/lib tech boards…but they sound, feel…and look, fucked.
There is also a height difference between forged and cast plates to consider.

[realbasedgod112]

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Do you guys find much difference with a painted truck?

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kind of sticky at first, once you get grooves it all goes away.

apart from that, the main impact of riding painted trucks is getting called a kook

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Are colored trucks or colored wheels a bigger sin?

definitely wheels, on certain occasions trucks can be worked in well but coloured wheels are almost always jarring

[rocklobster]

LAnyone have thoughts on differences/preferences as between indy forged hollows and standard hollows? Pop feel, stability, pinch etc?

I don't ride Indys but if I had to I'm rocking forged baseplates, not a fan of the tall 55mm height. Would like to have try a Indy Low when they were still in production, 48.5mm puts them in the Venture 5.2 Lo and Thunder 147 Standard territory.



https://www.longboarderlabs.com/product/independent-trucks-low-stg-11-standard-129mm-silver/

[braksabbath]

Is a hollow truck donezo when you grind it down to its hollow axle? If so the $88 Ti Indy doesn't seem so bad

[Sk.A.T.A.N]

I liked the feel/sound of cast hollows better. The forged plate sounds less good, feels less good. I can get past it, but if I could pick, the cast plate is better, for me. I think it’s strictly a familiarity thing, not unlike regular wooden boards: in the past I skated pretty well on some p2/lib tech boards…but they sound, feel…and look, fucked.
There is also a height difference between forged and cast plates to consider.

I think my preference for the Hollows compared to standards is actually due to the hight being a bit lower. I don't mind 55, but those 53,5mm are probably the sweet spot for me.

[LebowskisRug]

I’ve got a whopping single session on the cast Indy plates so far but it was really good. I actually didn’t notice the height in a negative way yet. It did stir up further madness for a moment thinking “shit I’m on 14.38 with cast and it feels great maybe I shouldn’t have sized up from. 14.25” but that went away quick. I think long term it will come down to these or Thunder cast as my preferred.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Is a hollow truck donezo when you grind it down to its hollow axle? If so the $88 Ti Indy doesn't seem so bad

I’m pretty deep into the axle on my hollows and so far no issue. I kept thinking I’d see a little gap open or something. I’m going to keep running them until something cracks or breaks.

[PuffinMuffin]

Is a hollow truck donezo when you grind it down to its hollow axle? If so the $88 Ti Indy doesn't seem so bad

Ti axles grab a bit more in my experience. If you're kinda lightweight like me they'll fuck up your balanced grinds. 

[manysnakes]

Is a hollow truck donezo when you grind it down to its hollow axle? If so the $88 Ti Indy doesn't seem so bad

A hollow axle and a solid axle are more or less equivalent strength, but obviously the hollow axle will get weaker as you grind through its structure. I don’t think a few extra weeks on what is ostensibly a totally trashed truck is enough to justify doubling the price.

[LebowskisRug]

So I don't get this. I've had the same exact precise deck on Forged Hollows and now cast inverted ti frankens that are basically like Standard Hollows in the following configs:

-FH and 54mm Loophole Teardrop (2)
-FH and 52mm Classic Full (3)
-SH and 52mm Classic Full (1)

The numbers are ranking the pop in a straightline, however, when rotating the difference is noticeable. Theoretically the FH and 54s should be the same as SH and 52's right?

And oddly cast Thunders and 52 was my childhood go-to and 148s with 52s has equal pop to this SH and 52 setup. Makes no sense.

[goodatmeth]

So I don't get this. I've had the same exact precise deck on Forged Hollows and now cast inverted ti frankens that are basically like Standard Hollows in the following configs:

-FH and 54mm Loophole Teardrop (2)
-FH and 52mm Classic Full (3)
-SH and 52mm Classic Full (1)

The numbers are ranking the pop in a straightline, however, when rotating the difference is noticeable. Theoretically the FH and 54s should be the same as SH and 52's right?

And oddly cast Thunders and 52 was my childhood go-to and 148s with 52s has equal pop to this SH and 52 setup. Makes no sense.

How are you measuring your pop? For me it's mostly muscle memory, I need a lot of time to get used to a different setup and then I get the same pop. So the best pop is simply on what feels the most comfortable at the moment.
And there's still a difference in weight, right?

[LebowskisRug]

I skate the same spots all the time. I can quickly setup my phone and use a ledge for reference for flatground tricks or tricks on the ledge and combine with how it felt.

The SH definitely take a bit more effort to pop, but it only took me about 5min of flat to adjust my timing slightly.

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I think that what you are finding with this experiment, is there is just more info at play, that is relevant, that is unaccounted for. Specifically the effect of the different trucks on leverage, and the potentially compounding effects adding in the deck geo and wheel sizes. I’m thinking different angles…but what I’m really thinking is I’ve go no idea what I’m on about here. I just think there is more that we do not know. I’m not sure why I’m taking the time to peck this out, as it’s not helpful.
I’ve had some startling moments with setups, some recently, in particular skating a board with a large wb, and getting great pop. Some of my highest Ollies were on relatively heavy setups. Lighter setups helped the pop of my flip tricks.
All I know is that I dunno 

[Spirit]

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Heya

I'm a big dude (6'3, 220-240lbs) and I now finally have some disposable income to buy proper trucks. Got the degree, found a decent job, all that fun stuff.
I never really had any specific requirements for trucks, mainly because I could only skate the cheapest garbage I could get my hands on like Silvers and Theeves. I currently have the basic Ace model, but I already had to change out the bushings twice, as I have it on the tightest to avoid wheel bites. I like the way they feel and I would like to keep something similar even though the good turning is a bit counter-intuitive in my case.
I mainly skate flat and am working on my ledge game.

I ride an 8.5 and just grab any wheels that I can get my hands on for cheap, currently some 55s I think.
Forgot to mention that I am based in EU (Czechia), so any US specific brands are a no-go

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Maybe Independent standards 144/149 or Film 5.5 (French brand so usually cheapest in EU). They are the highest trucks I know at 55mm, it should help you with wheelbites. You could also try some hard bushings, risers, or smaller wheels (50/52mm).

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Heya

I'm a big dude (6'3, 220-240lbs) and I now finally have some disposable income to buy proper trucks. Got the degree, found a decent job, all that fun stuff.
I never really had any specific requirements for trucks, mainly because I could only skate the cheapest garbage I could get my hands on like Silvers and Theeves. I currently have the basic Ace model, but I already had to change out the bushings twice, as I have it on the tightest to avoid wheel bites. I like the way they feel and I would like to keep something similar even though the good turning is a bit counter-intuitive in my case.
I mainly skate flat and am working on my ledge game.

I ride an 8.5 and just grab any wheels that I can get my hands on for cheap, currently some 55s I think.
Forgot to mention that I am based in EU (Czechia), so any US specific brands are a no-go

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Maybe Independent standards 144/149 or Film 5.5 (French brand so usually cheapest in EU). They are the highest trucks I know at 55mm, it should help you with wheelbites. You could also try some hard bushings, risers, or smaller wheels (50/52mm).

Thank a bunch!

[Richard Skidder]

Does anyone have an accurate measurement in grams of the weight of a Thunder Team Hollow 148?

[JugeL]

Saw 338g and 340g mentioned after quick search

[Richard Skidder]

Saw 338g and 340g mentioned after quick search

Thanks. I checked Tactics first and then Google search. My toddler is on sleep strike so I’m going on like 2hours total sleep in 48 hours. Didn’t even think to hit the search on here for it. Brain is currently melting.

[LewFarrell]

Saw 338g and 340g mentioned after quick search

This is accurate based on mine (336.5g skated 1.5months).