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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9090 on: September 16, 2020, 01:53:40 PM »
Can I ask a stupid question here? What do pivot cups really do? How much will a truck feel different if they’re switched to riptide? (Venture, thunder, ace)
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9091 on: September 16, 2020, 02:01:48 PM »
Can I ask a stupid question here? What do pivot cups really do? How much will a truck feel different if they’re switched to riptide? (Venture, thunder, ace)
Pivot cups are like cushions or bushings for the other end of the hanger. They assist the turn of a truck. Riptide pivot cups are a premium accessory made with a self lubricating formula so that the bushings last longer. Never had a set of riptides crack, creak, or wear out on me - still using the first set I ever got, the only reason I got more is for multiple setups because I won't ride a board without them now.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9092 on: September 16, 2020, 02:02:12 PM »
Can I ask a stupid question here? What do pivot cups really do? How much will a truck feel different if they’re switched to riptide? (Venture, thunder, ace)

I'm sure you'll get more science based answers, but it's really a 3rd bushing. The hangar is mashing around in it like a pestle in mortar. It provides resistance when needed in the turn arc, and should snap back/fill in to its original shape when the truck is rebounded to its regular spot.

Riptide just happens to be an awesome brand, among a few others.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9093 on: September 16, 2020, 04:07:33 PM »
Thanks guys. So the riptides make the turn, rebound and snapback better? Or are they just the bones bushings of pivot cups?
Ok Nigel we get it your rich and maybe a rapist

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9094 on: September 16, 2020, 04:59:19 PM »
Has anyone found risers that fit Ace baseplates? looking at my board and it's driving me insane.

They're bigger than the baseplate, but bones risers have oblong holes and will move under your plates so they don't stick out on nose/tailslides.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9095 on: September 17, 2020, 05:09:37 AM »
My great "Thunder Trucks Experiment of 2020" has come to a close.

I bought myself a christmas present this year of a pair of Thunder Hollow Lights and set them up a fresh complete (quasi deck, F4 wheels) which I skated for the first time on January 1, 2020. At first it felt super weird and couldn't figure out how tight or loose I wanted the trucks. I'd been primarily been using Ace prior to this and in accordance with their creed I like them loose. So that was the first challenge. I finally got them to where I liked them and I landed a few good tricks at the park that day so I felt good about.

Most of January and February I was working too much, it's our busy time of year, so not skating much. Weather was awful also, and most of my skating was going for a cruise after work to get a beer. I got used to the very different turn of the Thunders by doing this but I never felt comfortable ollieing at high speed. There's a huge bump in the bike path on the way to my favorite bar that I like to ollie off but I never could get the timing right with the Thunders.

Then March came and I was stuck in the house for months. I did some stationary skating in the driveway behind my apartment, but it was just something to kill boredom.

Finally in May I was able to go out again so I set up a new deck. Ishod twin tail. It was weird but I blamed the deck. Didn't feel comfortable at speed nor pushing tricks higher. That bump in the bike path continued to be a problem.

A week ago I set up a third deck on that truck/wheels setup, this time a Hockey. A shape I'm very comfortable with. I skated lots of Quasi and FA/Hockey in the past and I think they are my fav deck shape, I switch it up depending on what's at the shop that day. Same problems. What the fuck?!

For shits and giggles I took my old setup to work today for my lunchtime session. Quasi/Ace/F4. The first ollie I did was weird. But the second one was the same lofty and almost effortless ollie I remember from my past. I felt the skate gods lifting me up at that moment. Kickflips came back. Grinds felt dope. I missed the quick twitchy turn of the thunders but Ace turn great in a different way.

I blamed my shitty skating on decks; on my atrophied legs from Covid lockdown; from a hot summer; from depression; from my fat ass being a lazy old man. NOPE. Now I blame Thunder trucks. And the fact that I'm actually a horrible skateboarder, but not THAT bad, luckily.

I'm sticking to Ace from now on.

How do you people who switch stuff all the time do it? I still had Ace muscle memory from 9 months ago. It came right back. You must all be amazing skateboarders, or I'm just terrible. I can't do it.
Thunders also don't work for me. They just won't.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9096 on: September 17, 2020, 06:51:25 AM »
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Has anyone found risers that fit Ace baseplates? looking at my board and it's driving me insane.
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dooks
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The only risers custom cut to fit Ace perfectly https://bluntsteel.com/collections/accessories/products/1
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I donated a huge box of all my extra truck stuff including Dooks hard risers that seem to be hard to find. I could have swore they don't fit Ace's properly. Gay Imp Sausage Metal uses Diamond ones and in the set-up thread it looks like they're cut to fit perfectly.

I have some Diamonds on the way and will post once they arrive. As far as slotted risers, Lucky fit pretty well. I was running Modus for a bit but I didn't like how far it stuck out for nose slides.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9097 on: September 17, 2020, 07:30:37 AM »
I also have diamond risers for my aces, although you do have to cut them to fit since they’re a little bit longer than the baseplate.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9098 on: September 17, 2020, 07:45:59 AM »
As I mentioned earlier on in this thread, I put together a second setup recently, a 7.75 Toy Machine just to mess around on, and i wanted Ventures for them but the only trucks the shop had that matched that size were Indy standards. It’s my first set of Indy’s in a while ever since I switched to ventures; right off the bat they felt a lot less stable and a lot squirrellier than the ventures I’ve grown accustomed to, but man does that surfy turn just feel so right to me; I’d be lying if I said I didn’t miss it. Grew up skating nothing but indys and going back to a pair almost gave me like a “welcome home” feeling. It’s just what my mind and muscle memory is used to.

I think I’ve found my perfect bushing combo too for indys: bones hard tops with Indy aftermarket barrels on the the bottom; gives em the bones rebound but takes away the mushiness that comes with bones as well (not sure if anyone else thought bones just felt mushy at times but I always did). Makes em feel a lot more responsive and less squirrelly right off the bat.

Still love the stability and hefty pop of a venture but so far I’ve been enjoying my time back on indys for this second setup

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9099 on: September 17, 2020, 04:45:47 PM »
Thanks guys. So the riptides make the turn, rebound and snapback better? Or are they just the bones bushings of pivot cups?
Riptides are indestructible. Bones won’t even last me the life of a set of trucks. Do yourself the favor, spend the 14 bucks and know true pleasure

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9100 on: September 17, 2020, 06:26:08 PM »
How do you rock your tensors? do you keep the stock bushings or switch to bones soft?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9101 on: September 17, 2020, 06:51:04 PM »
How do you rock your tensors? do you keep the stock bushings or switch to bones soft?
atg? Stock all day they’re great w the interlocking bushings

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9102 on: September 17, 2020, 07:06:57 PM »
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How do you rock your tensors? do you keep the stock bushings or switch to bones soft?
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atg? Stock all day they’re great w the interlocking bushings
I ran mine with both. For me the stock ones ended up making a clicking sound

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9103 on: September 17, 2020, 07:39:54 PM »
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How do you rock your tensors? do you keep the stock bushings or switch to bones soft?
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atg? Stock all day they’re great w the interlocking bushings
I wonder how would Ace work with Tensor interlocking bushings...

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9104 on: September 17, 2020, 11:05:19 PM »
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Can I ask a stupid question here? What do pivot cups really do? How much will a truck feel different if they’re switched to riptide? (Venture, thunder, ace)
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Pivot cups are like cushions or bushings for the other end of the hanger. They assist the turn of a truck. Riptide pivot cups are a premium accessory made with a self lubricating formula so that the bushings last longer. Never had a set of riptides crack, creak, or wear out on me - still using the first set I ever got, the only reason I got more is for multiple setups because I won't ride a board without them now.

Actually just ordered a set of these for my Ace.  This thread has given me the madness and now I can’t get My trucks right.  I noticed the hanger was sloshing around in the pivot cups, and I hope this fixes it

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9105 on: September 18, 2020, 01:18:21 PM »
How do you rock your tensors? do you keep the stock bushings or switch to bones soft?

I ran them stock and with bones meds/softs; I found the stocks to be quite hard/tight (at only 90a if Tensor is to be trusted); if you ride on the tighter side, they're probably great but I found bones softs to be perfect for how loose I ride). Bones Meds were fine as well, just not as loose as I wanted the ATGs to be.

Bones without washers are the same height as tensors with washers.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9106 on: September 18, 2020, 02:47:18 PM »
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Can I ask a stupid question here? What do pivot cups really do? How much will a truck feel different if they’re switched to riptide? (Venture, thunder, ace)
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Pivot cups are like cushions or bushings for the other end of the hanger. They assist the turn of a truck. Riptide pivot cups are a premium accessory made with a self lubricating formula so that the bushings last longer. Never had a set of riptides crack, creak, or wear out on me - still using the first set I ever got, the only reason I got more is for multiple setups because I won't ride a board without them now.
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Actually just ordered a set of these for my Ace.  This thread has given me the madness and now I can’t get My trucks right.  I noticed the hanger was sloshing around in the pivot cups, and I hope this fixes it

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