Truck set-ups

[Sk.A.T.A.N]

I might try some ventures in the future now those are available!!

[Powerlesspillars]

Who needs finish work on hangars and axles

[rosemaryBB]

For those who skate without washers, is there any big difference? Thinking about taking mine off.

Makes them more cruisey and sensitive turning, I ride with tops but no bottoms, some people do vise versa or without either, supposedly reduces the lifeline of the bushings by shredding them faster but I'm a few months into this setup and haven't had an issue

[I AM]

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For those who skate without washers, is there any big difference? Thinking about taking mine off.

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Makes them more cruisey and sensitive turning, I ride with tops but no bottoms, some people do vise versa or without either, supposedly reduces the lifeline of the bushings by shredding them faster but I'm a few months into this setup and haven't had an issue

it really depends on the quality of the bushings themselves. low quality low rebound bushings last longer and have more rebound without washers because of the constant pressure of the washers not allowing the bushings regain its shape. its definitely a smoother turn and its more stable feeling because you feel more in control of the turn rather than the truck turning a certain amount and just stopping because of the washers binding. i guess the only problem is wheel bite, but you'll get used to it and eventually you'll get be able to ride without wheelbiting.

[Diocletian]

Every time I’ve tried bushings without washers they’ve made my set-up sound really dead, even if I made sure the nut was tightened enough so there was no play. Bones bushings with a bottom washer and no top washer on Ace’s works good without the dead sound, though.

[sneakpeekmeek]

For those who skate without washers, is there any big difference? Thinking about taking mine off.

Removing the bottom washer would fuck up the geometry, so i'm guessing you're talking about the top washer?

[Heywoodfloyd]

I think the washers job is to keep the bushings from deforming to much, and to help them keep their shape. So maybe you get a deeper turn without them.

[moonordie]

Taking out washers sound as stupid as poping out shields from bearings.
Just a thought.

[AngryBlackMan]

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For those who skate without washers, is there any big difference? Thinking about taking mine off.

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Makes them more cruisey and sensitive turning, I ride with tops but no bottoms, some people do vise versa or without either, supposedly reduces the lifeline of the bushings by shredding them faster but I'm a few months into this setup and haven't had an issue

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it really depends on the quality of the bushings themselves. low quality low rebound bushings last longer and have more rebound without washers because of the constant pressure of the washers not allowing the bushings regain its shape. its definitely a smoother turn and its more stable feeling because you feel more in control of the turn rather than the truck turning a certain amount and just stopping because of the washers binding. i guess the only problem is wheel bite, but you'll get used to it and eventually you'll get be able to ride without wheelbiting.

On some trucks you can get the same effect by using a flat washer on the bottom instead of the cupped washer. That way you keep the same geometry. 

[Willie]

I might try some ventures in the future now those are available!!

Oh shit! I've got an 8.25 sitting around that's begging for these.

[j....soy.....]

One more time, they are low's? 

[In A Jar]

Someone responded to me on the Venture instagram that the 5.6s are 53.5mm tall.  So yeah, same height as their other high trucks. 

[ballintoohard]

Impulse bought some Thunder Ti Lights last night and I don't even skate Thunders. Been on Indy's for a while, but don't love them. Got some Venture 5.8 on another setup and they feel kinda like Indy, but not super sold on them.  Hopefully these Thunders solve some madness.

[Serious Tea Drinker]

Has anybody ever skated trucks that are significantly narrower than their deck? I'm curious about Venture lows, but I ride an 8.5 and would rather not size down because I have big feet.

I've used 44s on an 8.75". I wouldn't do it all the time but it was workable and gave some leverage for flip tricks. It just didn't feel good on leges or coping as locking in felt a little sketch.

[ultrabra]

So venture had the chance of coming out with an technical street truck(low). At 8.25, and they made it tall. I mean nobody else makes tall trucks . Right. Jippikayeee!

[fang]

Venture 8.25 low would be sweet

[nosneb]

Venture 8.25 low would be sweet

[max power]

I'm setting this up next (8.5) with loose 169s.  The widest trucks I've had in the past on an 8.5 were some thunder 151. Should be interesting.

Is this a Niki Lauda tribute setup?

[rob]

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Venture 8.25 low would be sweet

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Hopefully they would be like the old thunder 149ers

Low and in control, so much center of gravity feel I regret it so hard giving them up

A little on the heavy side cause they were 8.4 standard gravity cast but man they were like if you took the real low pro II deck and made it into a truck, what a combo that would be

[fang]

Losing it again. Changed my new thunder 147s last night back to Indy 139s yet without even riding them, pondering the thunders again. Keep in mind I also have venture lo 5.0 and 5.25

[j....soy.....]

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Venture 8.25 low would be sweet

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Hopefully they would be like the old thunder 149ers

Low and in control, so much center of gravity feel I regret it so hard giving them up

A little on the heavy side cause they were 8.4 standard gravity cast but man they were like if you took the real low pro II deck and made it into a truck, what a combo that would be

Just seems dumb for venture to come out with something that competes w. Indy versus thunder... I can maybe see some team riders, but anyone else that wants a high truck, just skates Indy or ace. 

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Venture 8.25 low would be sweet

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Hopefully they would be like the old thunder 149ers

Low and in control, so much center of gravity feel I regret it so hard giving them up

A little on the heavy side cause they were 8.4 standard gravity cast but man they were like if you took the real low pro II deck and made it into a truck, what a combo that would be

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Just seems dumb for venture to come out with something that competes w. Indy versus thunder... I can maybe see some team riders, but anyone else that wants a high truck, just skates Indy or ace.

As trucks get wider wheelbite gets easier, so low trucks make less sense.

[j....soy.....]

I'm loving the thunder 148's....was considering the ventures but now bought another set of thunders....

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I'm loving the thunder 148's....was considering the ventures but now bought another set of thunders....

What size board do you pair them with? 8.25 trucks are ....they should be for me: old, can’t make up mind, want to ride big boards, skate bad on big boards. I got the 144s and wasn’t stoked. Ace 44s are sick, but I dunno. Wtf am I talking about. I just need to reconcile that I’m too decrepit to flick anything larger than an 8”.

[drinny]

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Venture 8.25 low would be sweet

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Hopefully they would be like the old thunder 149ers

Low and in control, so much center of gravity feel I regret it so hard giving them up

A little on the heavy side cause they were 8.4 standard gravity cast but man they were like if you took the real low pro II deck and made it into a truck, what a combo that would be

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Just seems dumb for venture to come out with something that competes w. Indy versus thunder... I can maybe see some team riders, but anyone else that wants a high truck, just skates Indy or ace.

But Ventures turn totally different (less sharply, until leant on hard) to Indy/Thunder/Ace? Hasn’t that been established time ago?

Anyway I’m not keen on lows apart from 5 mins dicking around on flat every so often.

Apart from on Slap I imagine Hi is what they sell most of now, lows being a little more for the educated buyer.

I’m sure they will make them if 5.6’s take off... it’s a test run, no v-light,hollow,titanium or thankfully pretty colours yet either.

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I'm loving the thunder 148's....was considering the ventures but now bought another set of thunders....

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What size board do you pair them with? 8.25 trucks are ....they should be for me: old, can’t make up mind, want to ride big boards, skate bad on big boards. I got the 144s and wasn’t stoked. Ace 44s are sick, but I dunno. Wtf am I talking about. I just need to reconcile that I’m too decrepit to flick anything larger than an 8”.

I came to that conclusion about myself as well. 😂

[Powerlesspillars]

Going to try 8.125 on 44's if I can find one locally

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I'm loving the thunder 148's....was considering the ventures but now bought another set of thunders....

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What size board do you pair them with? 8.25 trucks are ....they should be for me: old, can’t make up mind, want to ride big boards, skate bad on big boards. I got the 144s and wasn’t stoked. Ace 44s are sick, but I dunno. Wtf am I talking about. I just need to reconcile that I’m too decrepit to flick anything larger than an 8”.

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I came to that conclusion about myself as well. 😂

It’s amazing, to me, that I keep trying to ride larger stuff. I do need to ride bigger wheels, and that makes a small board look even dumber. Almost as dumb as a 40+ year old on a skateboard.

I’m not sure about you, but I also don’t get as worn out, as quickly, on smaller boards

[TheVisitor]

Losing it again. Changed my new thunder 147s last night back to Indy 139s yet without even riding them, pondering the thunders again. Keep in mind I also have venture lo 5.0 and 5.25

Sell me your Venture low 5.25 lol. I help you with your madness. 

[ballintoohard]

I have Ace, Indy, Venture, and Thunder at home.  Can never figure out which I like best. Thunders have the most stable manual, I like Ace minus locking into certain grinds, Indys are all around hard to complain about and the Venture feel like a more fun/floppy Thunder. I think someone could adapt to all of them depending on what board they like.  So far my best combo has been a Polar 8.5 or Quasi Proto 8.25 with Ace or a DLX 8.25 Full SE (hard as fuck to find) with Indys.  I like Thunders with my FA I have currently, but don't really like that deck quite as much.